In the lead-in to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, all of the U.S. involvement in the country was operated by bureaucrats and politicians from the U.S. State Dept, CIA, Intelligence Community and Senate. The Pentagon played a far lesser supportive role.
As a consequence of that previous investment, the current U.S response to the Russian “special military operation” has been spearheaded by the same DoS officials, intelligence agencies and politicians. The Ukraine engagement is a political operation using NATO and western allies. As we saw in the Afghanistan withdrawal, the Pentagon is a tool for the politics.
The division between the two interests (Pentagon vs State Dept) surfaces most quickly and easily when things SNAFU, and the blame casting begins. That’s when the division becomes noticeable to the public. The important point to remember is this… despite the involvement of NATO in the current Ukraine response, it is not the Pentagon calling the shots, it’s the state dept.
Earlier today, Army Gen. Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the House Armed Services Committee “[Ukraine] is a very protracted conflict.” Milley anticipates many months, if not years, of combat fighting inside Ukraine as Putin carves out the eastern side of the country permanently.
According to Milley, “I think it’s at least measured in years… this is a very extended conflict that Russia has initiated. I think NATO, the U.S., Ukraine and all of the allies and partners supporting Ukraine are going to be involved in this for quite some time,” he said. The nature of Milley’s remarks outlines what will likely become an insurgency/proxy war funded by the United States for years against Russia.
As much as JC Milley is a political figure, Milley is operating his role under the assumption and direction of what the State Dept is creating. As a consequence of that long-term conflict prediction, the Pentagon is recommending several new rotating military bases for U.S. troops in eastern Europe.
It is also critical to recognize what is not being said by those same DoS and U.S. intelligence officials. The absence is deafening. What is not being advanced is any discussion of a diplomatic resolution or negotiated settlement. Milley’s defense request is predicated on a position that no diplomatic solution will be advanced. This is a key part of both General Milley and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin’s testimony.
Ukraine cannot fight without the United States sending money and weapons. Combine that with Austin and Milley’s statements about Ukraine, and what you quickly see, albeit undiscussed in media, is that a long-term war is baked into this cake. The United States will not allow Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to enter negotiations with Vladimir Putin.
When we review western media statements about Putin not willing to enter “peace talks” with Zelenskyy, keep the testimony from Milley and Austin at the forefront of your mind.
Why would Putin enter any negotiations with Zelenskyy, knowing the U.S. position is to carry out a long-term insurgency war in Ukraine against Russian military forces? What would be the purpose of Putin talking with Zelenskyy when the U.S. is openly saying the Ukraine military will be used by the State Dept. to maintain a conflict against Russian forces?
Russian President Putin knows the only group he could negotiate with are in the United States. However, that truth would expose the puppet strings, so the United States government must play the pretend game.
The position of Volodymyr Zelenskyy as a puppet to the U.S. State Dept and Intelligence Community interests, is inherent in the Pentagon position. If Zelenskyy was free to make decisions, Austin and Milley could not be so assured as to put a timeline on the Ukraine conflict.
This context becomes increasingly important as we look at how the media are positioning all resources to support a protracted war. Anyone who is not 100% pro war in Ukraine, for whatever length of time the DoS/IC determine is needed, is immediately cast as a Putin apologist.
This war emanated from the bowels of politics via U.S. political influence in Ukraine to the extreme. This level of U.S. involvement in Ukraine ultimately triggered Putin to say enough, and he started the “special military operation.” In many ways the operation is not so much against Ukraine – but more against the U.S. involvement in supporting Ukraine against Russia.
Because it started from political origins, the Ukraine conflict will continue to be run from the nerve center of U.S. politics, the U.S. State Dept, the U.S. Senate, and CIA operations. The actual Pentagon involvement will be transport and logistics for State Dept military operations.
Do you remember when the DoS Benghazi mission was attacked, and the Pentagon had no idea there was even a U.S. operational mission taking place in eastern Libya? That same “Operation Zero Footprint” disconnect is what I am describing above. It’s likely the Pentagon has very little idea what the State Department and CIA are doing in Ukraine right now.
This context is also why the propaganda around Ukraine in the United States has been so critical and important. We will see this level of propaganda continue so long as it is the DoS/CIA running the western response to the war.
What makes this conflict a little more interesting, is the need for the U.S. to control the information. We have seen the initial first phases of their control with Big Tech saying they will not permit anything that does not follow the official U.S. government narrative on social media.
Additionally, the State Department launching their own cyber-control division is an extension of this same intent. They are planning for the long-term usefulness of Ukraine as a proxy battle against Russia.
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Websites like CTH, who talk honestly about the background of what is happening in Ukraine, may eventually need to start using coded language in order to share information. There are trillions at stake, and the people who control the events are not going to permit too much exposure.
I dispute the contention this conflict commenced on political grounds. This is all about exploiting the energy and other resources in the self declared independent People’s Republics of Donetsk and Luhansk. Both Putin and Zelenskyy are depopulating these areas and both expect to be compensated for their “work”.
They will jointly decide their splits. And both will simply be middlemen for the EU who will be the customer who will pay for all of this.
I think this has a lot to do with it including breaking up and destroying Russia to take the spoils.
All the countries the US has been at war/had disputes with the last 30 years have vast oil and gas resources.
Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Russia, others.
But Russia committed the mortal sin of destroying the USD reserve currency, although it had no choice due to the US imposed financial sanctions.
It is the US currency that “supports” the GAE for the last 50 years. It is over
Russia committed the sin of being Russia.
Come on. Russia is the no. 2 for oil after us. They could have been our ally, but they got rid of Trump. They do want to destroy Russia. But India and Israel support Russia. They ignore it.
MSM is crowing today about Putin not able to take over Kyif., they can’t help themselves.
Yes even though Russia said that was never goal, never mind, Ret War Pig Generals like Jack Keane made it their goal. To take Kiev would have meant reducing the city to dust. Of course, Russia could have done it. A city of 3,000,000. That’s what America would have done.
The world will go up in ash before that happens.
Very true. It is about economics. Whoever controls Eurasian will be in the driver seat. BRICS will not allow the Silk Road to be destroyed. The GAE is on its last legs.
What big tech will need to bury is the forced relocation of literally millions of people. This is the heart of this conflict.
The EU needs to obtain the resources and with all the mass migration of people going on in Europe, who is going to notice forcibly removing a couple of million people from their homeland? And who would dare to expose this?
So…. Russia might actually end it next week? Can’t trust any of these idiots.
May 9th was the planned end date. Russia’s problem will be if no Ukrainian surrender. If that happens then the country will be split along the Dnieper. Ukraine knows this. That is why they are destroying everything as they retreat. If Russia is vengeful it can open up on Western Ukraine.
Anyone see Douglas McGregor’s article yesterday?
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/bidens-folly-in-ukraine/
From the article: “Moscow can no more lose the war with Ukraine than Washington could lose a war with Mexico.”
Mexicans are invading our country and we seem helpless to do anything about it.
I imagine from what I have read, that Mexicans might be fewer than those from other countries… am I misled?
once an illegal alien border crosser, always a border crosser. They gotta visit home once in a while and come back, you know, after 20 years here.
I heard a fed briefing twenty years ago that claimed 1oo,ooo OTMs (i.e., other than Mexicans) were crossing the border every month! Why should that change now? We seriously have no idea what and who is coming across. Drugs easily smuggled…how about some nukes in suitcases? Our leaders have completely lost their minds.
He is a handful of the honest “pundits”
The entire Russian GDP is roughly (depending on which head is talking) the size of Florida’s or Texas’ or Nevada’s. I presume Miley knows that Russia has no more ground forces to send, or they would have been sent by now. That’s it, what you are seeing is what you’re getting. Russia can’t afford a protracted guerilla war. Russia certainly can’t afford a protracted conventional war. NATO will not extend membership to Ukraine. So what have we left?
Miley is either an idiot or he is a lying sack of excrement. And Obama’s admonition “Never underestimate Joe Biden’s ability to [mess] things up” rings truer than ever. This is Ron Klain’s war.
I believe it is a UniParty/globalist/NATO war. America should have little to no role in Ukraine. It should be EU’s baby since they want Ukraine as a member of E.U. IMO, the world would be a much safer place if NATO was disbanded or would at least stay out of non-NATO conflicts.
I guess you don’t realize the GAE is the uniparty/globalist/NATO
Roosia,Chyna,Ind*a, all the BRICS v USA/NATO. Not good. 😳😳
Why not? I guess you still believe in the “exceptionalism” bs from the GAE. It is over
No, they are holding their elite troops for NATO if it goes that far. The majority of their current units are 3rd or 4th lines
“That’s it, what you are seeing is what you’re getting.”
Russia can bring in conscripts but it wouldn’t help them. What they really need are NCOs, artillery engineers, tank commanders and fighter pilots.
This requires a significant investment in training.
The increasingly static nature of this war gives the defenders time to acquire antitank missiles, surface-to-air missiles and Switchblade bomber drones.
This will prove to be too much for the Russian air, armor and artillery detachments. This war will end in stalemate within months, not years.
Medals Milley is both and then some.
Actually, Russia has been preparing for this war for years. If anyone is in it for the long haul it is Russia. They couldn’t have done it even eight years ago, but now they have all their ducks in a row. From a thesaker.is article:
In 2013 Russia did not have:
Here is a link to the full article. The true importance of the Bucha false flag: a change of narrative | The Vineyard of the Saker
maybe they can gather the weapons left in afganistan and send to ukraine
https://www.news18.com/news/world/china-invites-taliban-minister-to-beijing-with-an-eye-on-afghanistans-minerals-4923908.html
I’ve wondered about that too, except that China recently met with the Taliban and this may have been discussed. (China is allied with Russia.)
Kiev would like that. Ukraine has a long reputation for being a money laundering and weapons smuggling hub.
The Taliban have opened the World’s Largest Army Surplus Store. They call it: Traitor Joe’s
When one lets loose the dogs of war, the end result is to win. Design a plan to overwhelm the enemy as quickly as possible. Protracted battles mean they started off with a bad plan or met resistance they had not expected and can’t regroup fast enough.
The US has killed more people in the world since 1970s in the name of “democracy and freedom.”
But not for the foolish natives.
Surely in vain the net is spread in the sight of any bird.—Proverbs 1:17
The attempted coup de main failed bigly.
Evidently, there was no Plan B and so the invasion has ground to a halt.
Now that Putin has lost the advantage of surprise, his troops will be the object of counterattack wherever they present themselves.
Is English your second language?
The blowback on this will be impressive. Release the proxies…
The one thing we know is this will not end in an anticipated manner.
Milley is revealing that the US and NATO plan to bring great pain onto Putin and do everything to make sure every last Ukrainian is dead in this war. Afghan style.
They have already worked out the plans, armaments, false flags, you name it.
PROXY WAR with Russia.
Revealing? It is already operational. Everyone knows it with an exception of the foolish Americano
“This war emanated from the bowels of politics…”
If the argument is that this distinguishes it from any post-WW2 conflict, I would beg to differ.
The only existential (non-political) threat posed to America since 1945 is its open southern border which Mad Dog Mattis was steadfast against defending.
On the biological front, there is the extermination of Americans via V-AIDS followed, almost certainly, by a recombitant virus to capitalize on destroyed immune systems, most likely a Marburg or similar hemorrhagic strain. In this war, the military has provided comfort to the enemy by opening up its barracks to the offending shots.
The military is an empire asset, funded by the petrodollar which, while bearing the imprimatur of America, shares few of the latter’s existential preoccupations.
Don’t let the predominant nationality of the personnel fool you. The US Military doesn’t work for America anymore than does the State Dept.
We are a bereft nation. None of our institutions serve us. That would include the ‘US’ dollar.
At least a few nationalists finally woke up
Milley sounds like he is explaining the post JFK Vietnam plan, but without combat troops. A 10 year war that is not constructed to be won. It is constructed to be executed over several years. The justifications will shift with every Congressional appropriation and Ukrainian (or anti-Russian) casualties – casualties that will be reported in the “correct” way through the media. Russian casualties will be disregarded or, perhaps, celebrated.
And like Vietnam, it was CIA and State Department getting us to take over from the French. The Dulles brothers.
Zelenskyy is Diem, at least until he is eliminated.
We, and the world, are still paying a price for 11-22-1963.
It is clear that much of Ukraine is no longer going to be part of Ukraine. It is completely possible and likely that Russia will wind up controlling not only the Donbass but also have their land bridge to the Crimea and very possibly Odessa as well.
Wherever those demarcation lines eventually settle the “Russian” side will have great local support. I doubt that the established new governments or Russia will tolerate much in the way of insurgency. You can safely assume that the people in the new Republics of the LDR and other places after having been mercilessly attacked by their own country since 2014, will be in no mood to tolerate CIA backed dirt bags trying to destabilize their countries.
The Russians have learned from the color revolutions and attempted ones hatched in Washington, London, Brussels and Israel. We will see if their insurgency plans work out. I am betting they will not be successful. Afghanistan anyone? Iraq? Syria? As to their creating massive new military bases in Eastern Europe. Who is going to pay for that? Even Brandon must know that we are more than tapped out.
No. I think it is clear that Brandan and his bosses have shot the U.S. in the foot. That was probably deliberate in furtherance of the “Great Reset”. However they went too far and did too much damage. The dollar will no longer be the reserve currency and with that gone much of the West’s power goes with it. The result will hasten the end of the empire not allow it to last longer.
I remember speculaing in the early to mid 90’s that our bubble could not grow much bigger. I was wong then. You might be wrong now.
Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria–and Libya–were all successful. They just were never intended to benefit us.
You are right that shoiting us in the foot is deliberate.
As to de-dollerizing the world economy, perhaps they intend that the only things America will have to trade are raw materials an Hessians.
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This is their pattern. Vietnam, Korea, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria. Ukraine. Since WWII there has been an effort to insert ourselves into everyone elses business. There is money to be made in war and there is less law and order in a country at war.
As a super power we used our clout to disrupt other countries governments and promote the self interest of corrupt politicians and CIA interests. We have no business in Ukraine, at least not now that our biolabs have been destroyed.
The operation appears to be generally following Putin’s timeline.
Phase 2 of Marioupol is basically done.
Phase 3 surrounding and destroying Ukies in the east is next. Will take, what, a few weeks or month at the most.
Ukies don’t have fuel or food to last very long, no matter how many arms the US or by proxy sends them.
Feel sorry for the Ukie soldiers who want to surrender but the Nazi commanders shoot anyone that tries.
If you study the photo a little you can recognize all the evil people.
While I am a firm believer in Freedom of Religion and freedom to evangelize perhaps persecution is the best way to purify “Christians” from the degenerate wokeness that has infiltrated and permeated Western “Christianity”.
That’s exactly what the Lord did to Israel after they failed to live up to their oaths to avoid idolatry and debauchery and to stay faithful and holy. He unleashed His Divine Discipline on them and let the worldly powers have their evil way with the Israelites: Oppression, misery, slavery. It’s all recorded in the O.T.
And here we are as a nation, some 3,000 years later, descending deeper and deeper into abominable sin and idolatry.
Think of the undercover, backstabbing CIA/SOS Drt P*mpeo did with 45. Never forget.
I heard an ad for GETTR this morning on Bannons War Room. They boasted about having many prominent conservatives on the platform “such as Mike Pompeo…. ” So I guess Jason Miller either doesn’t know (hard to believe) the truth about Pompeo or that was a BIG clue as to what “flavor” of conservatism they subscribe.
That’s disappointing. I won’t give them a pass. You might recall a CTH post that discussed Pompeo & Milley (I think) dropping some bombs somewhere and ‘told’ 45 after the fact. I’ll never forget 45 making them face the music alone in a presser at Mar A Lago. Nope. I don’t trust Pompeo.
Me neither, MC. That’s why the ad caught my ear and eye on the Rumble broadcast of this morning’s segment of War Room.
The mic needs a hole to drop off another $85 billion or so in equipment. They never really care about the gear or the people trained to use it, just the opportunity to skim the cash flow.
pffft that is parking meter money. You MIC idiots some how think $85 Billion is greater than the $4 Trillion in unaccounted for and uncontrolled money dropped off by the State Department.
Yeah, I sorta wondered from the article’s title, whether Milquetoast wasn’t sending an investment dog-whistle to his arms market buds. Friends in the bid’ness and all that.
Yes, there will be “insurgency” but the real money is in the ALL the “infrastructure rebuilding” that is required to rebuilt the Ukraine. This is a 100% repeat of Afghanistan. In Afghanistan, the military controlled only $85 Billion vs the $4 Trillion Nation Building Money controlled by the State Department. Plus, the State Department does ALL the negotiating, rules setting for other US Agencies in the Ukraine, using Military apes as their muscle when needed.
Putin may even be part of this, for now, by accepting the Ukraine returning to Status Quo in return for a temprorary end to the conflict and ownership of the Western Ukraine.
The real protracted conflict comes via financial pressure placed on the Oligarchs to remove Putin. Vlad is now in a “personal” battle for his literal survival.
“Vlad is now in a personal’battle for his literal survival.”
A military loss in Ukrainian would lead to Putin’s certain death.
General George Patton, a real general, would testify that, “We had our chance in May 1945.”
Considering the quality of the personnel in the highest level leadership positions within our military the American people should lower their expectations when it comes to the protection of the nation….from any threat.
Of course he does, that’s what he wants- he should be removed…….
Translation, Trump depleted the sucking of the Government teat with no war and these people need to continue their former lifestyle and restock the chests.
This numb nuts POS pedophile democrat probably calls putting on underwear a protracted battle.
Good one! Thanks.
Trump is out, the War Machine is back.
An Anti-Ukraine Meme Gets A Fact Check
follow the money
Let Milley talk about the billions upon billions wasted in Afghanistan by treasonous military staff who are more concerned with trans-ops than military ops. Not to mention the precious lives of our brave American soldiers, who were undermined by a treasonous officer class.
Let’s talk about a disgraceful American military that was essentially beaten by cutthroat troglodytes in sandles! IT IS A DISGRACE! Don’t tell me they couldn’t be crushed into powder and erased from history! You diabolical traitors wanted them to win!
Shame on Crazy Eyes Milley and all his woke anti-American officers who handed over 80 billion dollars in military hardware and a billion dollars in cash as well as Bagram Air Base. If you can’t remove it, you make it inoperable by destroying it, you pack of traitors! Do you think we are morons like you? We are not, we see with clear eyes, not through a prism of anti-American Leftist indoctrination.
You do not deserve to wear an American military uniform. To think of the incredible generals and officers you disgrace by your very existence. You should all be forced to undergo sex reassignment operations! You are NOT men. You bring disgrace to our SEX. I have nothing contempt for the entire odious lot of you! Not a real man in the entire woke pack of jackals.
If any of you had an iota of pride, you would all commit suicide today. But you don’t have pride, you only care about your sordid existence and political advancement up the ladder.
“Let’s talk about a disgraceful American military that was essentially beaten by cutthroat troglodytes in sandles! ”
This is nonsense. Afghans have long been recognized as the world’s foremost light infantry.
Did anyone on the House ASC ask Milley the obvious question: How should the US do to bring this to a rapid end? Or is not bringing it to an end the whole point? Is the US involved in funding and arming a conflict with zero control over it?
Well, Austin is there to sell more weapons. He was Raytheon board member.
Very sad for the people of Ukraine as they don’t have much say in the matter. The Russians have decimated the Ukraine military supplies and fuel supplies. They have no air force, or navy and they can’t operate without supplies.
The EU is following the US lead but to their own detriment.
It truly is criminal to continue this proxy war. Hopefully something good results like the western governments becoming more conservative and this criminal cabal in charge is brought to justice.
Of course. They have to milk this cow for all it’s worth. Continuing the funneling of money and using it for their global agenda.
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“caution”?
“This is a very extended conflict that Russia has initiated”…. as I recall, the gov’t. agencies that Milley fronts were the “initiators” long before Russia took action. Expert at attempting to place blame, aren’t you, miss milley?
CTH will need to move their site out of the U.S. and serve its readers through a TOR like interface only.
“Websites like CTH, who talk honestly about the background of what is happening in Ukraine, may eventually need to start using coded language in order to share information. There are trillions at stake, and the people who control the events are not going to permit too much exposure.”
They won’t make it easy for you Sundance
An old cipher and a good book will do, with a special browser, if you can picture that.
How’s the tranny program going general?
The CIA does not have enough paramilitary guys to have done all training and “advising” that occurred over the last 8 years so there most certainly were Pentagon assets (special opns, conventional trainers and weapons advisors) on the ground. Absolutely sure there are more there today.
Biden can begin working on his Ukraine exit strategy now. so when AOC needs to use it in 10 years it will be ready.
For General Milley, it would be a “long-term protracted battle”. He does have the sense or skill to win it. He’s too busy painting his nails and holding up his little card because he has had his wittle feewings hurt.
When the government brands Baptists as being a terrorist organization, you know they have lost the way.
The old guard needs to go – neocons and war mongerers, liars, traitors.
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