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Fox News Host Ends Interview After Black Lives Matter Leader Refuses To Answer Question About Looting
By Daily Wire News, Aug 19, 2020:
Fox News host Martha MacCallum abruptly ended a contentious interview with Black Lives Matter leader Hawk Newsome on Tuesday after he refused to answer questions about whether looting is wrong.
MacCallum asked Newsome if he agreed with the following recent statement by a Black Lives Matter leader in Chicago:
I don’t care if somebody decides to loot a Gucci or a Macy’s or a Nike because that makes sure that that person eats. That make sure that person has clothes. That’s reparations. That is reparations.
“Well, let’s, um, so we are moving on past Rudy Giuliani and moving into looting and a form of reparation. But let’s be very careful, Martha, let’s be very careful, and I’d appreciate if you let me speak,” Newsome responded. “Let’s be very careful. The problem with oppression and white supremacy is, white supremacy will have you criticizing the oppressed and worshiping the oppressors.”
“Now, if you want to talk to me about reparations, nothing falls short of a solution other than people cutting a check,” Newsome continued. “If you want to do something about reparations, cut the check. And we are not talking about going in every day Americans’ pockets, we are talking about banks like [inaudible] who benefited from slavery. Other insurance companies that sold insurance policies…”
“Alright, so you want to see reparations come from corporations. I asked you a question though, in fairness, Hawk, in fairness, okay,” MacCallum responded as Newsome repeatedly talked over her. “I listened to you, and now I want you to answer my question. Listen to me, sir. I asked you a question. Do you think, sir, do you think, do you agree, that it’s okay to go in and break the windows at Gucci’s or Macy’s or Nike because it makes sure that that person eats and that person has clothes. That was my question to you. Is that ethically okay to you?”
“Okay. Okay,” Newsome responded. “And before I answer that, I want to ask you this: Do you think it’s okay that America kills people in their homes like Breonna Taylor and our politicians do not do anything about it?”
“No, I don’t think that’s okay. Of course I don’t think that’s okay,” MacCallum snapped back. “No, but you don’t answer my question. … I’m trying to have a conversation. No one thinks that’s okay. … But you’re not answering my question which is whether or not it’s okay to take away people’s livelihoods because you deserve the stuff that’s in the broken window, okay? There’s two different issues here, and I wish you would answer my question, which you said you would but didn’t.”
“Do you think it’s okay for a country to profit off the backs of slaves and to pay reparations to other peoples and deny black people reparations?” Newsome responded.
At that point MacCallum ended the interview.
WATCH:
BlackLivesMatter of NY’s @IamHawkNewsome refuses to condemn rioting/looting, let alone even answer the question directly: “Do you think it’s OK for a country to profit off of slaves?" [via @marthamaccallum] pic.twitter.com/TtoqHv4wBl
— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) August 19, 2020
TRANSCRIPT:
FOX NEWS HOST MARTHA MACCALLUM: The Black Lives Matter movement has become a big issue in 2020 as some Democrats embrace it at this week’s Democratic convention. Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani was with us last night and he issued this condemnation of the larger Black Lives Matter movement.
RUDY GIULIANI: The president should consider carefully declaring Black Lives Matter a domestic terrorist organization. … They were basically engaged in stealing. So, this is an illegal organization and their intent is to overthrow our government.
MACCALLUM: Joining me now is Hawk Newsome, President and co-founder of Black Lives Matter of greater New York, which is its own individual organization. Hawk Newsome, thank you for being here tonight. First of all, let’s start with your reaction to what the former mayor of New York City had to say last night.
HAWK NEWSOME: Well, it’s funny, you phrase it, the former mayor of New York City and the reason why it’s funny is because nobody liked Rudy Giuliani as a mayor. There were actually high t-shirt sales of t-shirts that said ‘F Giuliani’ on them. No one liked Giuliani. 9/11 happened and he handled it with class and he became a national figure. But what has mayor Giuliani done since 9/11 except run his mouth? How is Rudolph Giuliani benefited America? This man’s children don’t even like him. He is nothing but a blowhard who runs his mouth.
MACCALLUM: Alright, I don’t want to make it personal.
NEWSOME: It is personal when you talk about him because he is trying to define peaceful, sometimes, most of the time peaceful protesters as terrorists. If he wanted to talk about terrorism he would talk about the KKK, who is responsible for bloodshed over hundreds of years, who have blown up churches with little girls inside.
MACCALLUM: Understood, that was terrorism and I hear what you’re saying. I also want to point out, I don’t want to get personal about Rudy Giuliani and his family, that doesn’t get us anywhere I don’t think in this conversation, but there were a lot of people who thought he was a very good mayor and especially as you point out after 9/11, so we let everybody have their own opinions about that, be that as it may.
NEWSOME: Yeah, but the thing is he’s talking about mothers and fathers who are out there protesting. He’s talking about black people and white people out there fighting for our rights of every human being. For equity, for human rights and he’s calling us terrorists. But I’ve never seen him take a hard stand against white supremacy.
MACCALLUM: I think he was talking about people who loot and people who ruin the businesses of people who built them for years and years. And I just want to play one sound bite, he talked about stealing–
NEWSOME: So when America goes and steals diamonds and oils, who’s calling us terrorists when the American government goes and pillages different countries? Who is calling us terrorists?
MACCALLUM: Okay, but you’re saying, are you saying that if that’s okay, it’s okay to steal and loot because of those other things that have also happened, which are also bad? I want to play this, Ariel Atkins, Black Lives Matter Chicago, talking about looting. And I want you tell me what you think about what she says.
ARIEL ATKINS: I don’t care if somebody decides to loot a Gucci or a Macy’s or a Nike because that makes sure that that person eats. That make sure that person has clothes. That’s reparations. That is reparations.
MACCALLUM: Do you agree with Ariel Atkins on that?
NEWSOME: Well, let’s, um, so we are moving on past Rudy Giuliani and moving into looting and a form of reparation. But let’s be very careful Martha, let’s be very careful, and I’d appreciate if you let me speak. Let’s be very careful. The problem with oppression and white supremacy is, white supremacy will have you criticizing the oppressed and worshiping the oppressors. Now, if you want to talk to me about reparations, nothing falls short of a solution other than people cutting a check. If you want to do something about reparations, cut the check. And we are not talking about going in every day American’s pockets, we are talking about banks like [inaudible] who benefited from slavery. Other insurance companies that sold insurance policies on.
[CROSS TALK]
MACCALLUM: Alright, so you want to see reparations come from corporations. I asked you a question though, in fairness, Hawk, in fairness, okay. I listed to you and now I want you to answer my question. Listen to me, sir. I asked you a question. Do you think, sir, do you think, do you agree, that it’s okay to go in and break the windows at Gucci’s or Macy’s or Nike because it makes sure that that person eats and that person has clothes. That was my question to you. Is that ethically okay to you?
NEWSOME: Okay. Okay. And before I answer that, I want to ask you this: Do you think it’s okay that America kills people in their homes like Breonna Taylor and our politicians do not do anything about it?
MACCALLUM: No, I don’t think that’s okay. Of course I don’t think that’s okay. No, but you don’t answer my question. … I’m trying to have a conversation. No one thinks that’s okay. … But you’re not answering my question which is whether or not it’s okay to take away people’s livelihoods because you deserve the stuff that’s in the broken, okay? There’s two different issues here and I wish you would answer my which you said you would but didn’t
[CROSS TALK]
NEWSOME: Do you think it’s okay for a country to profit off the backs of slaves and to pay reparations to other peoples and deny black people reparations?
MACCALLUM: Okay, you don’t want to answer questions about looting and stealing and broken windows, so–
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65 Comments
3 years ago
Black Lives Matter is a Terrorist organization, just like antifa
3 years ago
Reply to
Jay
Yes, and those who aid and abet them are also terrorists. That means the entire Commiecrat establishment. This conclusion is no different than the conviction of anyone who send money and material support to ISIS. No difference whatsoever. Trump has an obligation to declare them a terrorist organization and arrest their leaders and their moneybags Soros and Sons.
3 years ago
Reply to
John Acord
I will take it one step further: DNC is a terrorist organization. Remember Chuck Schumer’s speech on the steps of the Supreme Court? If that was not terrorism what is?
3 years ago
Reply to
John Acord
Sperry wrote this a couple of years ago . . . takes on an entire new meaning today . . .
Paul Sperry who presciently wrote in the New York Post: “Obama has an army of agitators––numbering more than 30,000––who will fight his Republican successor at every turn of his historic presidency…and command them from a bunker less than two miles from the White House.”
“His OFA Washington HQ is now the nerve center that coordinates 250 offices nationwide,” Sperry continued, “which together with its Chicago-based sister organization, the Community Organizing Institute (COI), are planning to facilitate the “training [of] more than 2 million youths in Alinsky street tactics” and carry out plans “to stage 400 rallies across 42 states to attack Trump and Republicans.”
3 years ago
I haven’t watched Fox since Me Again Kelly was added to the line up, but good for Maccallum.
3 years ago
Reply to
Don39
Tucker Carlson is great. He doesn’t pull any punches. If you want to find out what is really going on watch his show. No surprise that it is the highest rated show on Cable television.
3 years ago
A note to Newsome:
CRIMINALS did not like Giuliani; the rest of NYC loved him and their safe streets…
3 years ago
Reply to
Gale60
children of criminals do not like Guliani because their criminal parents are teaching them to hate.
3 years ago
That guy had lame responses. LAME.
3 years ago
This reparations nonsense burns me up. As crazy as things are going it wouldn’t surprise me if they don’t get it.
3 years ago
Reply to
Dave Jensen
Nonsense! But if we let them steal the election we deserve the results!
3 years ago
BLM have lost the plot! to the point BLM no longer has a plot.????????
3 years ago
This guys a joke, he’s got some talking points and that’s it. F’ that n8gger
3 years ago
Reply to
Common Sense
If you called most Black people that name I would be offended, but it fits Newsome!
3 years ago
Reply to
Don39
If it walks like nig#$er and it talks like a ni#$er, it sure as hell aint Thomas Sowell or Larry Elder.
3 years ago
Reply to
Common Sense
If you called most Black people that name I would be offended, but it fits Newsome!
3 years ago
If Newsome believes what he says, he is delusional. But, I suspect that what he says is just part of the overall tactics that this marxist, terrorist org is using to further the primary goal of the dem/nwo/china alliance, which is to destroy the USA. Black LIES matter…..only to the useful idiots who believe them!!!
3 years ago
Thanks. BLM, for showing us why your homelands are such a filthy mess
3 years ago
Now I understand a bit better what drives BLM. This mealy-mouthed dopey hood with his inane arguments and obviously ridiculous agenda is probably a good example of the thugs that rampage and destroy in the name of BLM. Raving on about one woman killed by cops, admittedly a horrendous happening, while totally at ease about the hundreds of black on black citizens slaughtered every year. It amazes me how some people can pick on one or two isolated incidences to support their own idiotic position and yet ignore the much bigger crimes being committed by their own supporters. Talk about tunnel vision. What a loser!
3 years ago
!!!!!!!!!!!! I DON’T OWE ANYBODY ANYTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3 years ago
The west is so bad that millions of blacks want to go there. Funny that once they arrive they are not satisfied.
3 years ago
The perp was merely practicing his already well-rehearsed Miranda rights, “you have the right to remain silent, anything you say can be used against you in a court of law”, etc.
3 years ago
BLM matters only as thugs and terrorist and as for as I am concerned that includes every idiot that supports them! They need to be squashed like the vernine they are. and that goes the same for all the leftist vermine that support them no matter what their color!
3 years ago
You are wrong. She accomplished her purpose and she let the idiot do it to himself!
3 years ago
“We have demonized those who produce, subsidized those who refuse to produce, and canonized those who complain”…. Thomas Sowell.
Perhaps this guy on FOX would do black people some good by cleaning up his neighborhood, getting a job, a career, an education, stop having kids out of wedlock, stop with the Fatherless children running around in gangs dealing Nickel and Dime bags of Dope on the street corner, perhaps taking personal responsibility for created the garbage in their streets that they themselves have created, but I guess its just easier to blame some somebody else for your problems because to even suggest that would be deemed as racist… Step up home boy.
Negroes in America need to learn that success is the best revenge and learn also that THE best county in the entire World for a Negro to live in is the USA as it has more Negro Millionaires than any other country.
However common sense doesnt seem to be common anymore.
3 years ago
Reply to
Andrew Blackadder
It seems you have forgotten the mantra.
Commit it to memory – it’s coming your way, sooner or later, in Diversity training:
It’s not the murderer – it’s the gun that’s evil.
It’s not the kids who embrace their ignorance – it’s the school that fails.
It’s not the predatory criminal who’s the problem – it’s the police officer.
It’s not the tsunami of rape, robbery and mayhem – it’s the justice system.
It’s not the lack of discipline, nor laziness that’s to blame – it’s the lack of opportunity.
The failure of the community is never the failure of the community – it’s the fault of a society which condones “white privilege.”
Got it?
Now you too can write op-eds for the NY Times, and appear on CNN.
3 years ago
Here we have a TV personality – a nice enough person, Martha MacCallum – asking womanly questions of a spokesman for a band of criminal savages who masquerade, on occasion, as a “Marxist/civil rights organization.
The idea that this interview would be informative was absurd – yet there we were, again – at least those who were unfortunate enough to witness this.
(Presumably the segment sold a lot of “My Pillow” products.)
Exasperated women asking womanly questions – this is what passes for TV journalism today – and perhaps law enforcement as well.
“The medium is the message ” is a phrase coined by Marshall McLuhan – a seminal thinker on media and culture, and this MacCallum piece was a perfect example.
Hawk Newsome’s contempt was neither unexpected nor undeserved.
3 years ago
Reply to
Michael Garfinkel
I agree it should have been Tucker or Hannity interviewing this terror supporter.
3 years ago
Reply to
allie
Well, the femininization of the culture continues apace, which, in no small measure, is the cause of much of this societal breakdown.
Not convinced – surf the the channels – you’ll see a veritable sewing circle of women discussing policy and asking silly questions.
Meanwhile, the Republicans are terrified of alienating “suburban moms” – and the rest of “Ellen’s” audience.
3 years ago
Here we have a TV personality – a nice enough person, Martha MacCallum – asking womanly questions of a spokesman for a band of criminal savages who masquerade, on occasion, as a “Marxist/civil rights organization.
The idea that this interview would illuminate anything was absurd – yet there we were, again – at least those who were unfortunate enough to witness this.
(Presumably the segment sold a lot of “My Pillow” products, however.)
Exasperated women asking womanly questions – this is pretty much what passes for journalism today – and perhaps law enforcement as well.
“The medium is the message ” is a phrase coined by Marshall McLuhan – a seminal thinker on media and culture, and this MacCallum piece was a perfect example.
Hawk Newsome’s contempt was neither unexpected – nor undeserved.
3 years ago
She did the right thing and cut him off. He was merely trying to use the interview which he had agreed to take part in as a soapbox for spouting his own distorted and noxious views. He persisted so much in this that a lot of it, to my ears at any rate, just became a cacaphonic garble of noise because he wouldn’t shut up for a moment and listen to the question and respond to it. I would have to say that in common with vast numbers of other people I would be very pleased if President Trump were to declare BLM a proscribed terrorist organisation. They are of no use to man or beast.
3 years ago
Up until now, nothing shows that the death of Floyd involved racism. The “white supremacy” mantra is a lever for unrest in the interest of the Democratic party and its parasites the Antifa and the BLM. All lives matter and the law is clear about it.
3 years ago
This guy is a POS scam artist. Reparations are OK if he was ever a slave, and I seriously doubt that he, his parents or grand parents and more than likely his great grand parents were ever slaves. Slavery has been over and done with for several lifetimes. It’s old history. His question about it being OK to go into peoples house and kill them is total BS too. All anyone has to do is go to any number of sites and watch videos of the incidents he and his kind refer to. There is one glaring and obvious common denominator; none of these people were complying with the lawful orders of the police and all were resisting very physically. I can’t believe people are stupid enough to buy into his total BS line of crap.
3 years ago
Reply to
anonQ
This scum was at least honest by telling what he wanted. he said don’t talk about reparations, just give me the check and he said it twice.
3 years ago
Reply to
World@70
These people are losers, failures at life and blame others for their poor decisions and failures; they want freebies, they don’t want a job, they want something for nothing.
3 years ago
If supporting a terrorist organization like BLM and ANTIFA politically,judicially and financially is a terrorist act, then Trump has the obligation to declare the entire Democratic Party a terrorist organization and arrest and imprison the entire nest of Marxist vermin.
3 years ago
I agree with reparations 100%. Any person who can prove they were a slave prior to 1865 should be generously compensated.
3 years ago
Reply to
L-Dan
I agree and anyone who is a victim of black crime should also be compensated.
3 years ago
Reply to
John Acord
That’s great!
Reparations have been paid for years, in the form of welfare.
3 years ago
Liberia was designated as a homeland for African American slaves because none of the African chiefs who sold them to slavers would have them back. Give reparations to all Burn Loot Murder supporters who agree to free passage for them and their families to Liberia, there they could build a country for themselves while simultaneously using their reparation money to help build their nation. Black conservatives could take the pledge of allegiance and opt to stay American citizens. White Liberals and any of their families who wanted to go with them could also go and become Liberian citizens to help with the process. Liberia would be happy and the USA would be happy. MAGA.
3 years ago
@MarthaMaccullum should have asked @IamHawkNewsome what he thinks about and why he doesn’t condemn current slavery of Blacks in Africa by Black Muslims & Arab Muslims as well as Muslims in General in Saudi Arabia and other Countries in the Region. Why doesn’t the @UN make a serious effort to stop it?
3 years ago
Reply to
Jack Holan
I believe slavery is outlawed in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Which many moose limb countries have never signed (notably S Arabia). It is up to the individual state governments to put it into practice
3 years ago
Obviously trained in Marxist speech. There was definitely a formula he was following to keep everyone on a defensive.
3 years ago
Reply to
Ambassador Theo
Yep, that sure worked out well, right up to the moment Fox kicked the soap box out from under him.
3 years ago
YOU CAN NEVER PLEASE PEOPLE WHO THINKS THE WORLD OWES THEM! THEY WILL RIDE THIS HORSE TO DEATH! FREE THIS FOR ME FREE THAT FOR ME, FREE FREE FREE! THEY CRINGE AT THE THOUGHT OF WORK, “WORK!!”
3 years ago
Reply to
danE DanE
I used to work with some people who would spend 12 hours complaining about 20 minutes of work they had to do.
3 years ago
YOU CAN NEVER PLEASE PEOPLE WHO THINKS THE WORLD OWES THEM! THEY WILL RIDE THIS HORSE TO DEATH! FREE THIS FOR ME FREE THAT FOR ME, FREE FREE FREE! THEY CRINGE AT THE THOUGHT OF WORK, “WORK!!”
3 years ago
Too much concentration on skin is never good.
3 years ago
How to deal with the New Bolchiviks?
How about an injection of 357 from Mr Ruger . . . .
3 years ago
Reply to
Charles Martell III
I prescribe a 180 grain Pb injection applied to any portion of the skull where the skin is not too thick or fleshy, using your personal choice of injector.
3 years ago
Liberals and progressives never answer any question because they never have any answers, only more problems.
3 years ago
Man, that guy is as big a thug as his brother Gavin, but a little more honest!
3 years ago
You can tell by looking at the dude he wasn’t too Bright. That’s why he had no problem appearing on tv cause he had no intention of answering except to repeat the same boring platitudes. I keep saying saying this over and over. That the time for talk is over. These ppl have no intention of stopping their obvious crimes. Ya gotta get tough. All they will do is filler buster as they were taught by Muslims who will just talk the same useless BS over and over instead of answering questions of their cowardly ways.
3 years ago
MacCallum has the patience of Job ,
3 years ago
Hawk Newsome, should be required to submit to a MENTAL HEALTH EXAMINATION, HE’S CLEARLY A DANGER TO HIMSELF AND OTHERS.
That being said, Where in GOD’S name do they find these COCKROACHES.
3 years ago
Reply to
Robert Kahlcke
Shine a UV light in any dark corner in any major city and they will quickly become visible. And not just the ones with 6 legs.
3 years ago
Yes, Guccis and Nikes are for eating! Know what else is for eating, you failed rapper hood-roach? High-velocity lead.
#BlacksLoveMurder so let’s give it to him.
3 years ago
Why would that subversive loser condemn theft? Democrats don’t. Every day they don’t stop it is implicit approval.
3 years ago
Black America has already been paid reparations,
1) Affirmative Action Programs.
2) Section 8 Housing Projects.
3) Welfare Payments from the Cradle to the Grave.
The US Government had no need to create these programs however they did because they could see that black Americans dont seem to have the ability to do for themselves as is evident in the conditions they live in today, just take a walk around a black area, if you dare, and yet they blame everybody else for the crap they live in.
Taking from somebody because they have earned it is NOT reparations, thats just stealing but I guess you need an education to understand the meaning of those words.
3 years ago
Reply to
Andrew Blackadder
Some Black Americans can do for themselves.
If you study the history of Blacks migrating out of the south after emancipation you will soon learn that the “go getters” were the first to leave, and that it didn’t take long for these “pioneers” to set themselves up in business in industrial cities in the north and make a success of themselves.
This first wave was followed by a second wave that built upon the first groups successes. Then a third wave, not as successful but capable of taking care of themselves the same as any other immigrant group.
That left the dregs in the South, no smarts, no initiative, and probably a genetic component as the reason their ancestors were sold into slavery in the first place.
This last group is the core component of LBJ’s “Great Society” and every welfare program since, supplemented by the shiftless ones who somehow managed to get themselves from the poverty of the south to the industrial riches of the north but never took advantage of the opportunities available to them.
BTW the aggregate total of Federal Welfare Spending is approximately equal to the aggregate National Debt. I think more than enough has been spent on “reparations” and we need a new standard for welfare qualifications that includes the ratio of each identified racial group applying to the total population as a percentage. If all the slots for your racial group are filled as a percentage of the total number of welfare recipients, you will just have to take a number and wait till your number comes up or go and get a job.
