Hugh Fitzgerald: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: Central Americans Treated Like Jews Fleeing The Nazis

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Alexandra  Ocasio-Cortez has compared the situation of those would-be immigrants in the famous caravan from Central America, who she claims are simply “turned away” at the American border, to Jews fleeing the Nazis. Of course, these people are not all being turned away just like that. They are merely being told to come to a designated point of legal entry, to present themselves and make their case for asylum. Some will be accepted, some will be rejected. Jews fleeing the Nazis had no such possibility. The few who did arrive in America, as on the refugee ship the St. Louis, were prevented from landing anywhere in America. The ships they were on, like the St. Louis, were turned back to Europe, where many of those who had been aboard were eventually murdered.

The Jewish refugees faced not the possibility of violence, but the certainty of being murdered in the concentration camps by the Nazis. They were fleeing torture and death, by the millions — in the end, six million were murdered. They had no place to find refuge. At the Evian Conference in 1938, which was called to discuss the plight of German Jewish refugees, all of whom might have been saved had foreign doors been open to them, only one of the 32 countries represented offered to take in any refugees. That single exception was the Dominican Republic. It took in 500 Jews.

The thousands of Central Americans cannot be compared to the Jews during the period of the Nazi murders. Violence there certainly is in Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras. Terrible as that is, it is not the same thing as being rounded up by the Gestapo or the Wehrmacht, being shot, or gassed, or burned alive, or worked or starved to death. Much of the violence in Central America is among gang members who kill each other. No one, I trust, thinks we should be providing asylum to these gang members, some of whom are certainly among the refugees — after all, gang members can make even more money, through criminal activities, in the United States than at home. But what about those who are simply caught in the crossfire, forced to live among such violence? Is that enough to require the American government to admit them? Those most affected by such violence have been Hondurans. But in Honduras that violence has been steadily, and drastically, reduced. It was at its highest in 2011, when there were  85.5 murders per 100,000 people. By 2016, the murder rate had decreased to 59.1 killings per 100,000 people. It then decreased by another 25% in 2017, to 42.8 killings per 100,000 people. In other words, the rate of violence has been cut in half since 2011. Given that long decline, why should we not expect further declines in the level of violence? And how many of those killed were innocents, and how many were gang members? The reports do not say.

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Again, the victims of this violence cannot be compared to the Nazi murders of Jews, where there were not 42 victims for every 100,000 people, but instead, something like 85,000 victims for every 100,000 Jews sent to the concentration  camps. In 1933, Poland had the largest Jewish population in Europe, numbering over three million. By 1950, the Jewish population of Poland was reduced to about 45,000. Romania’s Jewish population was nearly 757,000 in 1930 and fell to approximately 280,000 (1950). Most of these demographic losses were due to the Holocaust, the rest to postwar emigration from Europe.

The Jewish population of central Europe was also devastated. Germany had a Jewish population of 565,000 in 1933 and just 37,000 in 1950. Hungary had 445,000 in 1933 and 190,000 in 1950. Czechoslovakia’s Jewish population was reduced from about 357,000 in 1933 to 17,000 in 1950 and Austria’s from about 250,000 to just 18,000.

The Jews were deliberately murdered, and they couldn’t get out — not out of Germany, and not out of any of the countries or territories occupied by Germany. But before Germany had taken over much of Europe, Jews could have escaped, if only they had a place to go to. But no one would take them in, with the exception of the Dominican Republic. The Central Americans — from Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala — can not only get out of their countries with ease, but have several alternatives for refuge. America is not the only possible place for them to settle. Among the possibilities is the peaceful nation of Costa Rica, to which Central Americans  have already been admitted. The United States could encourage Costa Rica to take many more asylum-seekers by increasing our aid to that country. This would allow migrants to remain in a comfortable Spanish-speaking environment, close to their countries of origin, and able to monitor the situation at home in case things quiet down and it becomes possible to return.

Aside from Costa Rica, other countries to which refugees from El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala have gone are Panama, Nicaragua, Belize, and Mexico. They have also been going to countries in South America, save for Venezuela. In all of these places, they would be much safer than in their home countries, and in culturally and linguistically familiar environments. Most of them, however, still insist on trying to enter the U.S. because they are not, as many assume, merely fleeing violence. They are also economic migrants. They are fully aware of what the American government provides refugees — the free education, free or low-cost medical care, subsidized housing, and other benefits. They know, too, how much higher American salaries are, as compared to those in Central America.

Ocasio-Cortez compares the Central American refugees, those being kept out of the United States, with Jewish refugees being kept out of every country in the world, save for the few hundred who managed to make it to the Dominican Republic. But those that are being kept out have been vetted, and something not been quite right. They may have been exaggerating the extent of the violence they have suffered; they may themselves be gang members. They may only be economic migrants, using the excuse of gang violence to get themselves admitted to this big-hearted country. The desire to flee poverty should not be sufficient justification. If it were, 3/4 of the world would promptly come a-knocking, and have to be admitted.

These refugees  are not even being “kept out” of the United States, as Ocasio-Cortez sems to think. They are merely being directed to apply for asylum at designated points of legal entry, where their applications can be submitted, they can be interviewed, and have their claim considered. When did the requirement of legal entry become an unheard-of crime against humanity?

To sum up:

Jews facing certain death from Hitler were turned away everywhere. They could not even flee to Mandatory Palestine, which was created as a homeland for Jews, because of the monstrous British refusal to admit them, a refusal enforced by a sea blockade. Central Americans do not face persecution and certain death, but only a heightened risk of death because of the general level of violence in society. That level is dramatically decreasing; in Honduras, it has been cut in half since 2011. These people trying to enter the United States have many other possible places of refuge — but they only want to settle for America. These include the relatively peaceful states of Costa Rica, Panama, Belize, and, of course, Mexico, where for some reason no one in that caravan seems inclined to settle. Central American refugees have also gone, by the thousands, to many South American countries, with the exception of Venezuela (where the economy is in total collapse because of the Marxists Chavez and now Maduro), and even, in some cases, to Europe, when they could afford the journey, for a visa is not required for Central Americans to enter Schengenland.

Ocasio-Cortez should read up on the world’s failure to rescue Jews when it mattered most, and compare their fate, and the numbers of victims, with that of the Central Americans, some of whom must endure societal violence but not wholesale deliberate murder, and who have a number of possible refuges, unlike those millions of Jews who, at their moment of maximum peril, had none.

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CrustyB
CrustyB
5 years ago

Nazi Equivalencies: The last refuge of people whose brains have never been sullied by the presence of thought.

Chris Wolf
Chris Wolf
5 years ago

She gets her policy prescriptions from the draw end of a pipe.
And she’s savage enough to act on them.

Dnis
Dnis
5 years ago

I suspect that those who think like Cortez will soon be supporting the Islamic claim that the holocaust never happened, as some of her newly elected anti-Semitic brethren probably already do. The lack of practicality and acceptance of reality is shocking in the younger generation today, especially from educated people like Cortez. Though I understand that Cortez is allowing her ancestry to adversely influence her thinking, clearly, this article, and Cortez today, recognizes that the holocaust happened, but the inane refusal to accept the fact that few of those seeking asylum today are fleeing not as the Jews were required to do from death by the hands of people like the Nazi’s, but only from poverty is patently mind numbing. They are coming here for the benefits that the U.S. taxpayer is called upon to pay, and sanctuary status, as they believe our streets are paved with gold, and we cannot continue to be able to afford to carry that burden for the impoverished world. Sure, I am in favor of helpng those countries who need to expand their economies and provide for a trickle down effect to the people, but I do not believe we have any obligation to support these people here. This country’s debt is already thru the roof, and our economy has only recently taken off, and our youth and future generations will suffer dramatically if we do not get control of that debt. We cannot take on the cost to be incurred by these refugees.

Dennis
Dennis
5 years ago
Reply to  Dnis

The name is Dennis.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
5 years ago
Reply to  Dennis

Evidence-Based Governance
– would never elect a numbskull like this
– she lacks sufficient knowledge to even reason properly
– since she does not know how to find out the truth
– she could never govern on the basis of evidence or fact
– about anything

Ciaran Reid
Ciaran Reid
5 years ago
Reply to  Dnis

The holocaust seems like a bloody nose to the Jews that survived and Jews in general, all things considered.

Mickey Oberman
Mickey Oberman
5 years ago
Reply to  Ciaran Reid

You greatly minimize the impact that the holocaust has had and still has on almost all Jews.

Ciaran Reid
Ciaran Reid
5 years ago
Reply to  Mickey Oberman

I know, Hitler lives in Jews heads rent free.comment image

Mickey Oberman
Mickey Oberman
5 years ago
Reply to  Ciaran Reid

You damned Nazi.
If there were anything in your head it could it would be dead.
Nothing can live in a vacuum.

jps73
jps73
5 years ago
Reply to  Mickey Oberman

In 1939, there were nearly 15,700,000 Jews in the world. (1) After the Second World War that number had risen to over 18,000,000 Jews. (2) What this means is that of the 15,000,000 original Jews on the planet, 6,000,000 were gassed, leaving only some 9,000,000-plus. Then, the world Jewish population rebounded and doubled to over 18,000,000 in less than nine years—an astronomical feat, which astounded biologists and baby doctors everywhere!

From the Beginning, there was the SIX MILLION, of which 4,000,000 were gassed at Auschwitz. Then, in 1990 it was discovered that only 1.5 million were gassed at Auschwitz, a difference of 2.5 million less. But somehow the magical SIX MILLION remained, even though no instant replacement was ever found. YHWH moves in mysterious ways!

At the same time, the director of the Auschwitz State Museum Dr. Franciszek Piper, announced that the so-called gas chamber there had been fabricated by the Soviets AFTER the war!

FREE TRUE WW 2 history tomatobubble

JH
JH
5 years ago
Reply to  jps73

1 human being gassed is horrific on all counts.

evangeline golding
evangeline golding
5 years ago
Reply to  Dnis

What, exactly, is she educated in?

lax
lax
5 years ago

so these gang member, multiple felon, isis, terrorist, disease ridden, uneducated, etc’s are just like the Jews fleeing nazi germany?

wow. just wow, you know. like wow.

opinionated_too
opinionated_too
5 years ago

She can act as stupid as she wants to. After her term, she will have a paycheck and free benefits foro life.

Maranatha
Maranatha
5 years ago

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We told her not to say that…!!
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jcill
jcill
5 years ago

Hard to believe such an ignorant child is actually in Congress. The voters in the Bronx should be extremely ashamed of their voting habits.

gerry d welder
gerry d welder
5 years ago
Reply to  jcill

It’s scary that there are so many ignorant useful idiots that vote.

“When ideology is your guide, you’re bound to get lost. Ideology deludes, inspires dishonesty, and breeds fanaticism. Facts, experience, and logic are much better at leading you to the truth. Truth, however, is not everyone’s intended destination.”- Daniel J. Flynn, Intellectual Morons

Lory
Lory
5 years ago

Who builds up for decades an over-enemy “Nazi” shouldn’t be

surprised that others want to jump on this bandwagon and use
this succesful script too, whereby they are the new victims now.

Lory
Lory
5 years ago
Reply to  Lory

This has led to a totalitarian victim-mentality in which the one who screams
loudest can take the biggest tribute from those whose guilt feelings he wants
to strain. The “media” played an inglorious role in this. Like digital technology
in general, which now leads the whole world to us. This world is totally insane.

Lory
Lory
5 years ago
Reply to  Lory

The problem of the Nazi period was that they invented the film and photographic
technique themselves, which Stalin and Mao did not use due to their backward-
ness, and Genghis Khan, Napoleon or Alexander the Great had not yet invented.
Otherwise we would look at the world differently today and send Hitler where he be-
longs: to the scrap yard of world history. But he’s more alive than when he was alive.

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5 years ago

This person is a full on Moron! She is clueless even by Democrat standards. Democrats lie constantly but I think Cortez actually believes the stupid statements she makes. She’s might easily be the dumbest person in the House.

Ciaran Reid
Ciaran Reid
5 years ago

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Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
5 years ago

You’re thinking a hijab for that thing? Only a niqab will do …

Karl
Karl
5 years ago

Unbelievable that dimwits in NY voted for this dimwit.

Eddie Ryan
Eddie Ryan
5 years ago
Reply to  Karl

Trust me, I grew up an hour west of Manhattan in Jersey. Trust me, she’s living proof that New Yorkers are brain-dead. She’s living proof of this. ????????????????????????

Chas Hue
Chas Hue
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie Ryan

“Trust Me”….. what you never do with a Trumpite.

Malsikcuf
Malsikcuf
5 years ago

She should be locked up in a mental hospital!

Poppey
Poppey
5 years ago

As far as I can tell, all the while there remains political capital to be won by denigrating or reviling a white society for its material wealth {derived from its study and work ethic} social justice warriors like that silly brainless girl will keep popping up yelling “look at me”, “I’m more full of envy and hate than her”.

There is nothing short of death keeping people like her and the gimmgrants turning around and returning to where they came from and cleaning the place up.

Compete with us by being better and smarter, nobody owes you a living.

Eddie Ryan
Eddie Ryan
5 years ago

A star of WHAT, pray tell?

Janet
Janet
5 years ago

This dimwit is beyond stupid! She obviously knows zero about what happened during the Holocaust if she even knows what the word means at all. To compare it to the so called refugees illegally trying to cross the border either by lying or sneaking across is a slap in the face to the Jewish people. Every time she opens her mouth she proves just how extremely ignorant she really is.
Here’s the future of the Democrat Party. Two anti-Semitic Muslims who were just elected and this priize from NYC. In the words of Pamela Geller “what could go wrong?”

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
5 years ago

Ocasio-Cortez with her distorted sense of revisionist history are the way “dumb c*nt” jokes get started.

I can see it now, “Benjamin Franklin died in 1790 and, at last report, was still dead.”

Mickey Oberman
Mickey Oberman
5 years ago

Had perfidious Great Britain, which was entrusted by the League Of Nations with the Palestinian Mandate to give a designated area of the Middle East to the Jews for a homeland, not given 70% of that land to a desert tribe of nomads and barred Jews from entering the remaining 30% the six million who were slaughtered might have lived.
Perhaps it is being punished at present for that vicious crime. Perhaps that is why Elizabeth who in her long reign has visited over 100 countries but never set foot in the only democratic country in the Middle East, Israel.
How dare you, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, make such a vile, unbalanced, disgraceful, comparison?

Political_qrm
Political_qrm
5 years ago

This uneducated communist is disgraceful. What is she doing in Congress? Her only mission is to change America; not represent her constituency.

Really, we have to start charging these communists with sedition. Perhaps that’s contrary to our freedom of speech, but considering their ultimate goal is to take away our freedoms, our Constitution and our way of life, I don’t see any other option.

Ignorant fool. What bothers me more is so many people voted for her..

Dan Knight
Dan Knight
5 years ago

The comparison of the current ‘migration’ – note the air quotes – to the Holocaust has nothing to do with the Holocaust or what’s happening on the ground.

It is simply naked, raw agit-prop to stir up mindless mush-heads among the Left’s drone-base.

The current ‘migration’ crisis has few historical parallels. Albeit it is not the first time a horde of barbarians set upon a decadent and decaying empire ruled by elites who could not care less about the lives of their slaves … and less than that for the peasants (middle-classes) they did not out-right own.

But – our decadence and decay are not natural. And the migration is an invasion bought and paid for by our enemies. This is an ASYMMETRICAL WARFARE STRATEGY intended to destroy the only culture on the planet that stands decency, and – actual – progress and prosperity for those not born among the elite.

It is the West’s GOOD achievements that they hate – and that they want to destroy.

And for verification – look no further, as I have often posted – to the actual Open Borders policies. If you are an engineer with a job – they deport you for any reason – never mind all the whining about doctors and theoretical nuclear physicists. If you’re a plumber married to a Catholic Filipino, or a rancher married to a Protestant Venezuelan, or a programmer married to an Orthodox Ukrainian bombshell … who cares about chain migration … it can years to get your spouse into the States.

Think. Think. Think. The difficulty of these barriers is not imposed to stop ne’er do wells. The Boston Bomber family had no trouble getting their chain visas and instant welfare … There is a reason for the distortion –

And that reason is that the Left has hired our enemies to put their thumbs on the scales.

They don’t want migrants who might be pro-American. And all this rubbish about the Holocaust is nothing more than what it appears to be: Blatant lies – Big Lies – repeated over and over to beat the anti-Nasties.

Dan Knight
Dan Knight
5 years ago

Another way to look at this – the criminals are fleeing socialism more or less – so we should destroy socialism.

Everyone should ask Occasional Cortex if she wants us to destroy socialism in Honduras and Guatemala to make those nations great for everyone instead importing migrants to make us socialist like a 3d world s*hole.

Steven
Steven
5 years ago

Yes it would be nice if she would read and try to learn, but learning and understanding would run counter to her attitudes.

Defence Man
Defence Man
5 years ago

Yes Cortez is an idiot, but don’t blame her, she was educated by a leftist university. In short she knows nothing except how to talk leftism !

papa doug
papa doug
5 years ago

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is long on mouth and short on brain!
Study your history again little girl, there is absolutely NO comparison!

brian crawford
brian crawford
5 years ago

Is it necessary to refer to this clown by all three names ?

idahobob
idahobob
5 years ago

Stupid, mentally ill, little snowflake.

fred m
fred m
5 years ago

If what the Left said was true, people would be refugees from the USA, not flocking to get in!

David Square
David Square
5 years ago

I wonder whether Ocasio-Cortez is aware of the Canadian government’s response to Jews aboard the St. Louis who sought asylum in Canada in 1939: “Zero is too many.” These Jews were not even granted asylum hearings like the Central Americans who are currently attempting to enter the US illegally, by stealth or by force. Ocasio-Cortez should be ashamed of her lack of awareness of the Holocaust and its victims. But alas, self-awareness requires a modicum of intelligence.

JH
JH
5 years ago

I am sorry, I was not aware of central Americans getting tossed in ovens. The ignorance of this horse face is going to be dificult to watch for two years.

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