[ April 27, 2024 ]
When my colleagues and I warn of this we are smeared. defamed, libeled, and smeared. The objective is to destroy lives in the cause of protecting and defending Islam.
German-Based Former Islamist Hicham Nostik: We Used The Rhetoric Of Peace And Love, But Among Ourselves Talked Of Conquering Germany
Hicham Nostik, who goes by “Moroccan infidel” on social media, recounted to Egyptian-German scholar Hamed Abdel-Samad, on whose “Box of Islam” Internet show he was interviewed, his transformation after coming to Germany. On spending time with mujahideen at the mosque where he had been living, Nostik said: “I turned more religious and became acquainted with the dark side of Islam.” “We were going to implement the shari’a and conquer Germany,” he said, describing the “hypocrisy” of using “the rhetoric of peace and love” when talking to non-Muslim Germans. “I was living in the graveyard of history. I was dead,” he said. It was only when he enrolled in a Christian university – in the hope of converting people to Islam – that he realized “that my understanding of Christianity had nothing to do with theirs.” Hicham Nostik summed up his position: “It is inconceivable that a God, who is supposed to be merciful, and more compassionate than a mother toward her child, would sell people in the marketplace, and legalize slavery and all those barbaric punishments, like the killing of apostates.” The show was uploaded to YouTube on August 12, 2018.
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“We Were Going To Implement The Shari’a And Conquer Germany – This Was The Discourse In The Mosque, But The Discourse We Used Toward The Germans Was Entirely Different”
Hamed Abdel-Samad: “When you came to Germany, you were very religious.”
Hicham Nostik: “Yes.”
Hamed Abdel-Samad: “You went to stay at a mosque in Heidelberg. Tell us about this mosque and what kind of Muslims you met there.”
Hicham Nostik: “I became even more religious when I came to Germany, even though I had already belonged to Islamist groups back in Morocco.”
Hamed Abdel-Samad: “You mean the Justice and Spirituality Movement?”
Hicham Nostik: “Yes, but also the Reform and Renewal movement. I was a member of several groups, and sometimes I would participate in activities. But when I came to Germany, things changed. It was the early 1990s, and the civil war in Bosnia and Herzegovina was raging. It was as if I was entering a brand new world. This new world was calling to me. I lived in the mosque itself. There I met mujahideen, who were passing through the city. They would spend a few days at the mosque. Some of them would go to the Jihad, and some would return. Some would take clothes, food, and other things for the mujahideen. I experienced this firsthand, because I used to spend time with them, and would live with them at the mosque. I experienced this firsthand, as we say. So I turned more religious and became acquainted with the dark side of Islam.
“There is the glamorous side of Islam, which aims to embellish the image of Islam, and present it as a religion of peace, love, and so on.
“But in the mosque in Germany I got to know the real Islam – the doctrine of ‘Loyalty and Disavowal,’ and various issues regarding the implementation of the shari’a. I became acquainted with these things through the mujahideen, and through the mosque library, which was full of Hanbali books.”
Hamed Abdel-Samad: “Ibn Taymiyyah…”
Hicham Nostik: “Ibn Taymiyyah, Ibn Qayyim, and so on.
[…]
“At the mosque, I felt strong. The divine power and the mujahideen were on my side, and we were going to implement the shari’a and conquer Germany.
“This was the discourse in the mosque, but the discourse we used toward the Germans was entirely different. It was hypocrisy.”
“When We Were Talking Among Ourselves, We Used The Real Islamic Discourse – We Talked About Making The Utmost Effort To Conquer This Country, Because This Country Should Be Governed By The Law Of Allah”
Hamed Abdel-Samad: “What would you say to the Germans when they would come to the mosque?”
Hicham Nostik: “From time to time, they would visit the mosque, and we would also hand out flyers and booklets in the main street of the city. Obviously, we would use the rhetoric of peace and love: ‘For you is your religion, and for me is my religion,’ ‘there shall be no compulsion in religion,’ and everything you want to hear from a Muslim.”
Hamed Abdel-Samad: “That Islam honors Mary…”
Hicham Nostik: “Right. And Jesus too. But when we were talking among ourselves, we used the real Islamic discourse. We talked about making the utmost effort to conquer this country, because this country should be governed by the law of Allah. It cannot remain the way it is. It must be governed by the law of Allah, and this day will come.”
Hamed Abdel-Samad: “So not only were you living in a mosque, but you were living in a different age…”
Hicham Nostik: “Absolutely.”
Hamed Abdel-Samad: “For you, it was not 1995, but 632 or 628.”
Hicham Nostik: “That’s right. I was living in the graveyard of history. I was dead.”
Hamed Abdel-Samad: “And then?”
“It Is Inconceivable That A God, Who Is Supposed To Be Merciful, And More Compassionate Than A Mother Toward Her Child, Would Sell People In The Marketplace, And Legalize Slavery And All Those Barbaric Punishments, Like The Killing Of Apostates”
Hicham Nostik: “Then, I left the mosque and moved from friend to friend. Afterwards, I got an opportunity to live in Frankfurt with some friends, and I enrolled in a Christian university there. I was living on campus, and I got to know people there – conservative Christians who had come to study Christianity. I thought this was a great opportunity to do some da’wa. I believed that with my knowledge of Christianity, gained from the Quran…”
Hamed Abdel-Samad: “You’d be able to knock out your enemies with their own weapon.”
Hicham Nostik: “Of course. I thought that just like Muhammad had done, I would correct their notions, and they would understand and convert to Islam in droves. It was as simple as that to me. But of course, I was completely clueless. When I started talking to the Germans there, I realized that my understanding of Christianity had nothing to do with theirs.
[…]
“I started to study the history of Christianity, and this had an impact on me.”
Hamed Abdel-Samad: “It backfired…”
Hicham Nostik: “Absolutely. I entered a complex labyrinth… I realized there is a dilemma: Either you accept the historical facts, or you accept what the Quran says.
[…]
“I found mistakes [in the Quran] that even a young Sunday school student would not make. So how could it be conceivable that the Lord of the Universe would make such mistakes?
[…]
“The final straw for me was the moral issues.
“It is inconceivable that a God, who is supposed to be merciful, and more compassionate than a mother toward her child, would sell people in the marketplace, and legalize slavery and all those barbaric punishments, like the killing of apostates.”
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27 Comments
5 years ago
“Right-wing AfD party keeps growing and is now most popular in East Germany”
https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/09/right-wing-afd-party-keeps-growing-and-is-now-most-popular-in-east-germany/
– Germans are starting to figure things out
5 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
Formerly Soviet-dominated parts of Eastern Europe are actually more conservative than Western Europe.
5 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
Agree. As long as there are parties that support muslims Germany will never get better, its upto ppl to wake up in droves.
And the first Muslim democrat president imported 200,000 yearly legal and illegal muslims and
deported christians back to ISIS to be slaughtered after they tried to make it to America http://tinyurl.com/mtc3xch
And those who dared to help were threatened to shut up and MSM would not cover it !
5 years ago
Reply to
Suresh
gee, for a minute there I thought you were talking about “canada”. Trudeau has refused all NON ISLAMIC REFUGEES while embracing , enriching, empowering and prioritizing islamic TERRORISTS AND FAKE REFUGEES into canada!!
5 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
Too late. Islam belongs in Germany now. From Beirut to Bayreuth islam will dominate!
5 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
too bad canuks and all the foreigners here don’t give damn as long as their entitlements continue to roll as they along with their leader mohammad trudeau and his terrorist regime/government continuet to welcome, embrace, empower and these terrorists here!!. As Europe begins to slowly clean house these barbarians will all be fast tracked to trudeaus “canukistan” with the promise of the life of kings off we canuks and all exempt from the laws, their barbaric religion and culture-/mentality (which destroyed their lands) forced upon us! lol, they just don’t come any dumber!
5 years ago
The Germans are as blind as bats and as naive as sheep.
5 years ago
Reply to
R. Arandas
They are not blind, they just prefer all that comes with welcoming Islam and subjugating their people to Sharia in the cause to rid the world of Jews.
5 years ago
Reply to
R. Arandas
Not sure about that. I think they are afraid to speak up and may not know what to do yet.
People are getting more pissed about what is going on.
5 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
German speakers are the most oppressed by the Political Correctness criminalisation that was established in the ruins of Berlin and the mythical gas chambers (not) at Auschwitz. When their fuse runs out, the explosion will be all the greater.
5 years ago
ISLAM’S QURAN doesn’t say to assimilate, it says to dominate and islam’s quran commands muslims to LIE to infidels to further islam’s domination called TAQIYYA….
Islam’s IDEOLOGY AND as a CULTURE can be BANNED as it poses a threat to America’s culture & Constitution,ESPECIALLY SHARIA LAW ON AMERICAN SOIL aka the NATIONALITY & IMMIGRATION ACT of 1952
FACT:
All cultures are NOT equal and anyone who respects a culture who bases their entire ideology & laws on “HONOR KILLINGS”, 8 yo. child brides, rape,marital rape, molestation, pedophilia and torture is to say that you respect the atrocities that it perpetrates. They can call themselves, al qaeda, boko haram, isis,devout, moderates, etc., the COMMON DENOMINATORS are ALWAYS islam, the quran & SHARIA which violates our Constitution and should not be practiced on American soil.
All cultures CANNOT COEXIST & that’s why every nation has borders & laws…
https://concernedwomen.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/CWA_ShariaLaw-and-the-Constitution.pdf
Islam is far more of a political system than a religion…
1- There is no unmitigated good in Islam for the Kafir (non-Muslim).
2- Islam’s ethical system is dualistic and is not based on the Golden Rule.
3- Islamic doctrine cannot be reconciled with our concepts of human rights and our Constitution.
4- The great majority, 96%, of all Islamic doctrine about women subjugates them.
5- The Sunna (what Mohammed did and said) is more important than the Koran in a Muslim’s daily life….
6- They kill their own children and justifies it by calling it “honor killings” as part of their sharia law they want to enact on AMERICAN SOIL & there is NO HONOR in killing your own child!
Islam covets death in hopes of 72 virgins in the afterlife and WORLD DOMINATION which is the definition of a CULT but REAL RELIGIONS covets life and love for others,
EVERY religion respects each other but islam that wants every non muslim dead,islam cannot coexist with CIVILIZED SOCIETIES.
5 years ago
Reply to
Deanne Guess
Exactly and even ‘ex Muslims” here in Canada are warning us but mohammad trudeau is a pro terrorist muslim and so considers ex Muslims to be infidels and silenced along with the rest of us!
5 years ago
There is a lesson here. When a Muslim is curious, expose real Christianity to him. You never know if planting that seed will develop into a plant or wither away. I like this parable.
Matthew 13: 1-9
[1] The same day went Jesus out of the house, and sat by the sea side.
[2] And great multitudes were gathered together unto him, so that he went into a ship, and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.
[3] And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;
[4] And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:
[5] Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:
[6] And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.
[7] And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:
[8] But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
[9] Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
5 years ago
Satan is the ruler of Islam . The sooner this nasty cult is stopped the better
5 years ago
Any fool knows this. And if you don’t, you must be retarded.
5 years ago
Taqiya – Islamic Deception. Muslims are taught to deceive the kuffar (non-Muslim) about their true beliefs in order to defend the cause of Islam and Jihad. This deception called – taqiya.
5 years ago
A smart man — not only because he left the damned, dumb, Jew hating, vile, violent, mendacious cult of death behind but because he wore a disguise during his interview.
5 years ago
Pretty cool. Another moslem becomes a human being. Rejoice.
5 years ago
I had a comment prepared and tried to post it, my computer was momentarily blacked out. It was intentional. I cannot understand why, because it was my opinion and politely stated.
President Trump is right, about all of it.
Please let people speak. We cannot all agree with the mess the progressives have made of all of it.
May we not even complain, or speak of it? Shameful.
As for this article, we all knew it. We did not suspect it, we knew it.
This is invasion by any means available, from the subtle, to the otherwise.
Ask yourselves this, are you happy, are you worried, do you feel your beliefs, your country is safe. For starters, ask yourselves that.
5 years ago
A conversion is a beautiful thing. He still has a long way to go, but at least he’s on the right road going in the right direction. … Hope he doesn’t get killed.
5 years ago
This discussion simply shows the overall IQ of Islamists.
If I were invited into a place and they were foolish enough to pay me. Why would I do all of the dangerous, to me, acts when all I had to do is wait for my brothers in arms and their wives to repopulate and over run the place. Its going to take just as lone anyway.
All of this stupid so-called terrorist act wake up the population and would create animosity toward us.
These jerks are obviously very stupid, but not as stupid as the leaders, including ours. of these places along with the really dumb welcoming leftists.
5 years ago
this is news?? They are doing this all over the entire western world and have been since the invasion began ! Ex Muslims here in Canada have been warning us for years now (my co worker was warned of this by one of her former customers, a “ex Muslim” who is trying to warn us!!) to NOT BUY THE ISLAMIC PRETENSE OF WANTING TO BECOME CANADIAN AND WANTING TO BEFRIEND US!! Even their Quran tells it all and they post on internet sites, including facebook and so on how much they HATE US ALL AND HOW AND WHEN THEY PLAN TO COMPLETELY OVERTHROW US, OUR COUNTRIES AND SLAUGHTER US ALL! THEY ALSO BRAG ABOUT ALL THE MONEY AND THE EXEMPTIONS FROM OUR LAWS THEY ENJOY HERE IN OUR COUNTRIES-ESPECIALLY HERE IN CANUKISTAN WHERE THEY DRIVE LUXURY VEHICLES, BUY HOMES, VACATION BACK HOME NUMEROUS TIMES PER YEAR, INVEST THE TAX FREE MONEY THEY ARE GIVEN EACH MONTH- ACCORDING TO MANY, IN EXCESS OF $10,000 TAX FREE CANADIAN PER MONTH!!! YET STILL DUMB F*CK CUNUCKS BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO APPEASE!!
ON ANOTHER NOTE, HAVE A READ: An Urgent Note Before Rosh Hashanah: Fighting Antisemitism in 5779 at : https://cija.ca/an-urgent-note-before-rosh-hashanah-fighting-antisemitism-in-5779/
Take note of the tweets by mohammad trudeau and some of his liberals and of course the NDP – NONE OF WHOM HAVE OFFERED A PEEP while the islamists have taken over our streets, legislative lawns/property ,and so on with their protests and attacks against the Jews, Isreal and even beating peaceful Jewish protesters across Canada!! NOt even our law enforcement have stepped in to stop them! And here mohammad is now WANTING THEIR VOTES SO ALL OF A SUDDEN HE IS PRO JEWISH AND EVEN APOLOGIZING FOR CANADA HAVING REFUSED MANY JEWISH REFUGEES DURING WWII- OVER HALF A CENTURY AGO! I’m willing to bet my salary canucks will vote him in again and then gleefully lining up to the slaughter!
5 years ago
Syrian Children Play War Games with Toy Guns and Rifles: When We Grow Up, We Want to Be Mujahideen….
https://www.memri.org/tv/eid-al-adha-syrian-children-war-games-toy-guns-we-want-to-be-mujahideen
