St. Louis prosecutor investigating gun-toting couple was backed by George SOROS

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He is behind it all. Disarming America is key to the overthrow of the American government.

Who is Kimberly Gardner, St. Louis prosecutor investigating gun-toting couple?

Gardner described encounter as “a violent assault” against the protesters

By Stephen Sorace | Fox News | July 1, 2020:

St. Louis couple seen pointing guns at protesters marching toward mayor’s home

Couple claims some protesters were armed, broke gate, threatened them.

The standoff between a gun-toting couple who stood in their front yard and protesters who marched through the private neighborhood is under investigation, according to St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kimberly Gardner’s office.

Gardner, who was elected in 2016 on a platform of reforming the criminal justice system, was reportedly backed by liberal billionaire George Soros.

ST. LOUIS COUPLE WHO BRANDISHED GUNS BEING INVESTIGATED AFTER CLASH WITH PROTESTERS

Since being elected, Gardner has butted heads publicly with Missouri’s Republican attorney general and faced lawsuits for allegedly ignoring public records requests.
St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kimberly Gardner was investigating the confrontation between a St. Louis couple who brandished guns on their own property as protesters passed through the private neighborhood. (Circuit Attorney Office)

St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kimberly Gardner was investigating the confrontation between a St. Louis couple who brandished guns on their own property as protesters passed through the private neighborhood. (Circuit Attorney Office)

More about Gardner’s investigation into the St. Louis couple, Soros’ campaign support, her feud with the state attorney general and the lawsuits against her office:

Investigation into gun-toting couple

In a statement Monday, Gardner described the encounter between married lawyers Mark and Patricia McCloskey and the protesters as “a violent assault” against those exercising their First Amendment rights.
Armed homeowners standing in front of their house along Portland Place confront protesters as they march to Mayor Lyda Krewson’s house on Sunday, June 28, in the Central West End in St. Louis. (Laurie Skrivan/St. Louis Post-Dispatch/Tribune News Service via Getty Images)

Armed homeowners standing in front of their house along Portland Place confront protesters as they march to Mayor Lyda Krewson’s house on Sunday, June 28, in the Central West End in St. Louis. (Laurie Skrivan/St. Louis Post-Dispatch/Tribune News Service via Getty Images)

“I am alarmed at the events that occurred over the weekend, where peaceful protesters were met by guns and a violent assault,” Gardner said. “We must protect the right to peacefully protest, and any attempt to chill it through intimidation or threat of deadly force will not be tolerated.”
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She said her office was working with the police department to investigate the confrontation, adding that authorities “will use the full power of Missouri law to hold people accountable.”

No charges were filed against the couple as of Tuesday morning.

Albert Watkins, the McCloskeys’ attorney, told Fox News that under Missouri’s Castle Doctrine, a person has “the absolute unmitigated right to protect his or her castle or family while on their property.” He said the protesters were trespassing, “damaging and destroying private property and acting in a threatening and hostile fashion.”

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“If Kimberly Gardner wants to press charges against two attorneys who are protecting their home and their family and themselves on their own property, I will tell you that it will be nothing short of the proverbial clusterf— with the ensuing assertions that she’s doing this for political purposes,” Watkins said.

“And I will tell you that as a person, I don’t believe that to be what she is doing,” Watkins added. “I just believe she probably has a difficult time reading the English language.”

George Soros connection

Gardner, a Democrat, was elected circuit attorney of St. Louis in 2016, running on a campaign that promised to reform and rebuild trust in the criminal justice system and reduce violent crime.

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She was criticized ahead of the election for releasing a political ad paid for by the Safety and Justice Super PAC that was at least partially funded by liberal billionaire George Soros, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported.

The total funds donated by the super PAC were at least $190,750, according to the report, with Soros giving at least $30,000. It was not immediately clear what her campaign budget was or who else contributed.

Gardner at the time told the paper that she had no regrets about accepting help from the super PAC.

Soros is known for backing left-wing causes across the globe, having last year used his super PAC to successfully boost two liberal prosecutor candidates in Virginia over incumbent Democrats.

Beef with Missouri AG

Gardner publicly butted heads with Missouri’s Republican Attorney General Eric Schmitt, who she referred to as a “Trump wannabe” during an online meeting of local political candidates earlier this month, FOX2 St. Louis reported.

Schmitt had earlier criticized Gardner on Twitter for allowing the release of all 36 rioters and looters arrested in the city following protests over the deaths of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor.

“In a stunning development, our office has learned that every single one of the St. Louis looters and rioters arrested were released back onto the streets by local prosecutor Kim Gardner,” Schmitt tweeted June 3.

Gardner responded that only eight of the 36 cases were referred to her office and that police did not provide “admissible evidence.”

“He just wants to launch a politically motivated attack against me, even if it means misleading and lying to the public,” Gardner said of Schmitt. “While the AG continues to fuel the division in the community at a time of great pain, suffering and racial divide, my response to the AG: I got work to do.”

Lawsuits against Gardner’s office

Gardner was sued last week for at least the third time over the state’s Sunshine Law, an open records law that requires the government to respond within three days to requests for public records, the Post-Dispatch reported.
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The latest lawsuit claims Gardner’s office failed to fulfill an April 23 open records request for data on case statistics, dismissal data and staffing totals, the paper said. Her office responded in a letter May 12, according to the paper, saying more time was needed to fulfill the request due to the coronavirus.

The Post-Dispatch also sued Gardner’s office in 2019 over her office’s refusal to release copies of contracts with vendors. A judge ruled in the paper’s favor in April, but the paper said Gardner’s office has not yet fully complied.

Gardner sues city officials

Gardner also filed her own lawsuit against city officials in January under a federal law passed to curb the violence of the Ku Klux Klan following the Civil War.

In the suit, Gardner accused city officials, the local police union and a special prosecutor of a “racially motivated conspiracy to deny the civil rights of racial minorities” by obstructing her work to get tough on police misconduct and create change in the criminal justice system, The New York Times reported at the time.

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Her opponents denied the accusations, with a police union leader calling the suit “frivolous, desperate and pathetic,” the paper reported.

Gardner has been at odds with the St. Louis police and local legal establishment since taking office and taking steps to hold police officers more accountable, according to the paper.

Conviction rate falls

The rate of convictions under Gardner has fallen dramatically in the past two years, according to a KMOV-TV report from February.

The station obtained data from Gardner’s office that showed prosecutors got guilty verdicts in 51 percent of cases in 2018, and in 54 percent of cases in 2019. The station reported convictions had dropped by about 20 percent.

A spokesperson for Gardner’s office responded to the station at the time, saying that counting plea agreements, the overall conviction rate is 95 percent. They said over 90 percent of cases are resolved outside the courtroom.

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Kuffar
Kuffar
3 years ago

Why is the ex Nazi Soros still alive? He should be considered a clear and present danger.

joe shmoe
joe shmoe
3 years ago

investigated for what reason? protecting your life and property is the reason the 2nd amendment exist

felix1999
felix1999
3 years ago
Reply to  joe shmoe

They need to disarm us!

Rusty
Rusty
3 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

This is how the Democrats controlled Black people in the South by Jim Crow.
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Robert Kahlcke
Robert Kahlcke
3 years ago
Reply to  Rusty

OVER MY DEAD BODY. Period

mtman2
mtman2
3 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Well….they’d like to do so in their minds believe somehow they’ll find a way.
Problem is their anarchial revolutionary Marxist “foot soldiers” don’t want to wait…which would prove bad for them.
As Dinesh DeSouza stated in the final analysis –
“WE have all the guns”

I think @ Liberty U and got big applause…!

Freeland_Dave
Freeland_Dave
3 years ago
Reply to  joe shmoe

But it does not allow for the illegal act of brandishing a weapon. Hard to enforce law by breaking other laws. No, I am not defending the ptoyrsters either.

yiddishlion
yiddishlion
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

That isn’t brandishing you moron.

Freeland_Dave
Freeland_Dave
3 years ago
Reply to  yiddishlion

Actually it is. Look up what constitutes brandishing and educate yourself. When you point and aim a gun at someone else that’s brandishing. If you don’t point it and aim it at someone that’s not illegal.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

Once again, little one, please review Missouri Law 571.030, Do NOT place ANY credibility with “Law and Crime a Dan Abrams Production.

Seek competent advice from a member of the Bar, State of Missouri.

There is ample court precedent that holding a firearm, while on one’s one property is not considered illegal use of a firearm.

There was only one case that convicted a man for holding a weapon while on his own property, in Missouri. A man ran trespassers off of his property, pointing a loaded firearm at them The reason that he was found to have committed an crime is that he followed them, on to the public road, while still pointing his firearm. Although, his conviction was overturned on appeal.

So, once again, what College of Law awarded you your juris doctorate. And, in which states are you a member of the Bar?

WildernessOfMirrors
WildernessOfMirrors
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

Try facing down 300 pavement monkeys and see what you do. You would wet your pants.

Freeland_Dave
Freeland_Dave
3 years ago

Didn’t happen when I had to do that in my military service. Guess I was wearing diapers. Have you ever killed someone? I hope you never have to. Unless you’re abnormal it does things to your mind thatyou never get over.

Don
Don
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

So then you would let the rioters/looters beat or kill you and rob you and rape and murder your wife and/or children rather than brandish a firearm?

WildernessOfMirrors
WildernessOfMirrors
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

Oh Dave, your lies just keep growing exponentially. C’mon dude let all that PTSD out. Tell us how you took out that machine gun nest all by yourself and captured 20 VC

Have I tested your resolve yet?

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago

Now THAT was a comment worth its weight in bitcoin, times a thousand.

WildernessOfMirrors
WildernessOfMirrors
3 years ago

Did you read his other comments to me.

He threatened to take me out at one mile. And he said “don’t test my resolve”. So I ask him if I’m testing his resolve after every post.

Anyway, he folded like a cheap suit and went away.

I believe Dave is insane.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago

The Gunnery Sergeant that kept me from getting into trouble, as a shave tail second lewey, had graduated from Carlos Hathcock’s school. I realize that optics, ammunition, and firearms have improved, but I doubt that even Sgt. Edwards would have even dreamed of taking someone out at a mile.

Freeland_Dave
Freeland_Dave
3 years ago

Yep, stay away from crazy Dave. Or try it. Your choise. Makes absolutely no difference to me.

Freeland_Dave
Freeland_Dave
3 years ago

You don’t have to. I survived. Others did not. BTW you are now blocked.

WildernessOfMirrors
WildernessOfMirrors
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

Blocked?!?. Mr. tough guy sniper dude just couldn’t take the heat.

I guess I tested your resolve and found it………………………………….wanting.

I win.

WildernessOfMirrors
WildernessOfMirrors
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

Maybe in your state.

Freeland_Dave
Freeland_Dave
3 years ago

All I posted was Missouri Law. I am aware each srate can be different but when it comes to brandishing or exhibiting a weapon most states, not all,m are the same.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

The problem is, like all PRETEND attorneys-at-law, you used a search engine under “brandishing”, as opposed to reviewing/reading the actual law. I have posted said statute for you, numerous times. However, as in the case of most PRETEND attorneys-at-law, you simply cannot make it through, much less understand.

You poor, poor little thing.

yiddishlion
yiddishlion
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

Actually moron….it is NOT. I will match my actual legal expertise and knowledge of the law in that state against your weak-assed conjecture any time.

Freeland_Dave
Freeland_Dave
3 years ago
Reply to  yiddishlion

Be my guest. Hopefully the judge and jury will follow the law, not your legal expertice and you can have a long relationship with a man named Bubba behind bars. You see idiot, I don’t care about you at all. Hopefully others will read and follow the law. But I don’t worry about them much either.

BHOHG2G
BHOHG2G
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

I can sit on my front porch with my rifle in my lap anytime I want. Might concern a few neighbors but it’s not illegal.

Freeland_Dave
Freeland_Dave
3 years ago
Reply to  BHOHG2G

Very true and it wouldn’t bother me a bit. However you legally an’t point it at people rither on your property or standing in front of it. You can if they have illegally entered your home but you still have to prove you felt you were fearing death or emminent bodily harm.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

From what Law College were you awarded your JD. And, in what states are you a member of the BAR?

Freeland_Dave
Freeland_Dave
3 years ago

First Mr. Handjob. It’s FD not JD. Two years of contract law at Universidy of San Francisco. Not a member of the Bat but I did legal briefs for a DA in a California County for 12 years and did successfully stve off a brandishing a weapon’s charge made against me when I fended off a home invasion and was falsely accused of brandishing a firearm, despite the fact the invaders were attempting to kill me in my own home. So, Mr. Handjob, what’s your field of legal expertice?

Right, you’re a lawyer. That’s why you use a troll name like Achmed Mohandjob.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

So, little one, you ARE playing PRETEND attorney-at-law.

I hold a Juris Doctor, awarded by the University of Iowa College of Law. And, I am a member of the Bar in both Iowa and Missouri.

So, be a good little PRETEND attorney-at-law and run away before you HUMILIATE yourself more than you ALREADY HAVE.

WildernessOfMirrors
WildernessOfMirrors
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

So let’s see now
A gun collector, a fully qualified marksman too. And a sniper too.
Tough guy spec ops
In between all that you did legal briefs for a DA for 12 years and two years of contract law U.SF. But you aren’t a member of the ……..Bat?, or is it the Bar. I can see why you aren’t a lawyer.

So you “brandished” a weapon while fending off an attack at home. Sounds familiar

How about that surgical practice. How’s that going?

Am I testing your resolve……………………………………Dave?

Dave, you are insane. Paranoid? Are you confined? A shut-in? Drinking your food through a straw?

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago

It’s like most paralegals. They fetch coffee and run copies for the attorneys-at-law. Other duties entail picking up dry cleaning, being a courier, taking lunch orders and having the lawyer’s shoes shined.

BHOHG2G
BHOHG2G
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

Private property is another matter. These protesters were on private property.
Gun handling was by no means the best but the protesters forced the escalation.

Freeland_Dave
Freeland_Dave
3 years ago
Reply to  BHOHG2G

I see no evidence of that. But I do see a stupid women waveing a gun around, aiming it at people and threatening to shoot them. That’s brandishing and it makes no difference if you’re on public property, private property or, in most states, standing inside your own home. Fear of an imminent threat of bodily harm is the qualifing factor. I saw nothing in the half dozen videos of this that indicates she was in a condition of imminent bodily harm.

WildernessOfMirrors
WildernessOfMirrors
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

You weren’t there. And you aren’t a lawyer, just a Monday Morning Leftist quarterback. If they are in your house it’s generally too late.

Leftists will twist themselves into pretzels to have us disarmed.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago

And, you little one, by your OWN ADMISSION are NOT an attorney-at-law. You actually admitted to being a PRETEND lawyer. Now, pick up my dry cleaning and get my shoes shined.

SFTOBEY
SFTOBEY
3 years ago

Are you sure that you replied to the correct post?

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago
Reply to  SFTOBEY

Thanks for bringing that to my attention, SFTOBEY.

Misdirected. MY error. Reply was to have been to “Freeland_Dave, the PRETEND attorney-at-law.

I could readily blame my old age … and, I believe that I shall.

I’m old. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

SFTOBEY
SFTOBEY
3 years ago

No problem. I figured it was to the idiot with the handle “Freeland_Dave”.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago

Misdirected. MY error. Reply was to have been to “Freeland_Dave, the PRETEND attorney-at-law.

I could readily blame my old age … and, I believe that I shall.

I’m old. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

BHOHG2G
BHOHG2G
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

They threatened to kill the couple and their dog. What don’t you get?
You want to play stupid games and test people then be prepared to win stupid prizes.
It does make a difference. Many store owners stood outside and guarded their businesses
with rifles and pistols during rioting. It seems rules only apply to certain people in your world. In a world where police may never show up , the rules may get bent and broken accordingly with the force used against them. I didn’t see that they had enough time to get a referee to make a call. No harm no foul.

Don
Don
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

Just shut the f up you cowardly, treasonous hypocrite. You are a total JACK A $$.

Freeland_Dave
Freeland_Dave
3 years ago
Reply to  Don

Awe. So you obviously do not believe in the 1st amendment. The part about freedom of speech. And to think, you call me treasonous and a coward. Which ANTIFA group do you belong to.? Cover your face little boy, hide behind that mask. Or are you a rootin tootin gun toting cowboy gun nut on the far right with the likes of the KKK? Tell you what, being your gun and make me. Make certain your affairs are in order.

Tisk tisk tisk. My what a bold keyboard warrior you are.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

571.030, Read it again, little one. Or, are you too busy fetching coffee and picking up dry cleaning?

Drifter
Drifter
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

Wrong! They broke an iron gate to get there and made threats. ..

Freeland_Dave
Freeland_Dave
3 years ago
Reply to  Drifter

Wrong! Breaking an iron gate and making verbal threats does not allow you to display and point a weapon while threatening someone that you will shoot them with it. Cops are exempt and citizens become exempt when there is a clear and present danger of being killed or bodily harm in Missouri Law. Don’t believe me I don’t care. Look it up for yourself. Is the breaking of an iron gate justification for shooting someone?

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

First, little PRETEND attorney-at-law, NO one was shot.

Second point that needs to be raised, is that you are a PRETEND attorney-at-law. You’re entire legal experience was fetching coffee, for the lawyers, and picking up their dry cleaning.

santashandler
santashandler
3 years ago

Now hold on, Mohandjob. Fetching coffee allows someone to ‘see files’ and stuff, right? So, maybe he could claim ‘legal expertise’ based on that, right?

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago
Reply to  santashandler

Getting the lunch orders straight is one of its hardest jobs. And, they do carry files sometimes, if trusted, they can actually be a courier.

The uppity ones have to be constantly put in their place.

santashandler
santashandler
3 years ago

I hate it when they muck up my lunch order!:) And yes, the uppity ones are a problem. In their minds, they are future power attorneys. Or, if in L.A., future Academy Award winning actors. And they walk around like they already are.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago
Reply to  santashandler

I remember one paralegal, in the few times that I actually practiced, could never get my sandwich right. Simple order, pastrami and Swiss on pumpernickel. If they’re out of pumpernickel, dark German rye.

Blithering idiot would bring back corned beef. And, some of them believe that they know the law.

I have no experience, of which I know, with actors. Other than taking Acting 101, at Iowa. Randy Alderson was the instructor. He’d have us, on the floor, being trees, or rocks, or some other such folderol. I remember when he called me out for just sitting there. I believe that we were supposed to be trees. I told him that I was still working on “my rock part”.

santashandler
santashandler
3 years ago

I’m sure in that paralegal’s mind, it was all the same and that you wouldn’t notice. And if you did, he/she would just cry to daddy.
How ironic. Most actors wandering around lala land, have ‘rocks’ in their heads.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago
Reply to  santashandler

Interesting story about Acting 101. We were asked to do some “solo” acting bit. For mine, I brought in bricks, and haydite concrete blocks. I gave a tameshiwari demonstration. I tried to have everyone in the class just break one 24×12 one inch haydite block. I provided padding, although in my demonstration I used none. NO one could break a simple brittle piece of haydite. So, I put two of them together, placed a piece of newspaper on top, single piece, and did a head break.

From that point forward, Alderson never asked me to be a tree again.

Wimpy little bastid gave me an A for the semester.

santashandler
santashandler
3 years ago

🙂

TincanJoey
TincanJoey
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

I’ll agree with the Missouri Attorney General who said they are covered under the Castle Doctrine.

Freeland_Dave
Freeland_Dave
3 years ago
Reply to  TincanJoey

That’s fine. Have you actually read the law? A judge issued a warrant so obviously there is something the y don;t agree with.

TincanJoey
TincanJoey
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

I have…and in a country of “I can indict a ham sandwich” it doesn’t surprise me they found a judge to do this.

Freeland_Dave
Freeland_Dave
3 years ago
Reply to  TincanJoey

Judges listen to inditemenmts and, with the help of a jury, in this case, determine of the law was abridged or not. An inditement is not a conviction. An arrest is not a conviction. People ofyen mistakenly think that they are a conviction. Are they? I don’t think so, do you?

Don
Don
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

Then read what the McCloskeys said you dumbo! They said they were threatened with death! People like you are part of the problem. Wake up.

Drifter
Drifter
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

Does breaking and entering through an iron gate inspire fear? Hmmm? Is what you say a legal opinion, under Castle Doctrine or is it a lay opinion?

Freeland_Dave
Freeland_Dave
3 years ago
Reply to  Drifter

It’s my lay opinion based on my studies on Missouri laws where the term ‘displaying a firearm illegally’ (brandishing) is defined unless you have a immenient (immediate present) threatn againist your life, someone elses life or grave bodily harm. i also learned a lot about brandishing a weapon when I was arrested fordoing just that as a non-sworn worker in my local PD for 12 years. I was entirely legal in that I was fending off a home invasion where the guy, a convicted felon, attempted to kill me inside of my home. Still, it took me 3 years and $5,000 to prove I was innocent before the court agreed and I was aquitted. I lost my job at PD during that time and almost lost the security clearances that enabeled my main job. Fortunately I had the training and presence of mind to do everything legally. Even then, it wasn’t a walk in the park. Experience is a good teacher.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

YOUR studies, little coffee fetcher, “of Missouri laws where the term …”

TOO funny. Now be a good little assistant and pick up the lawyers’ dry cleaning. And, this time, don’t mess up the lunch orders.

PRETEND attorneys-at-law are SO much fun to laugh AT, as they HUMILIATE themselves.

BHOHG2G
BHOHG2G
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

I can sit on my front porch with my rifle in my lap anytime I want. Might concern a few neighbors but it’s not illegal.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

The definition of brandishing varies from state to state. However, it rarely includes holding a firearm, while on one’s own property.

Almost all illegal use(s) of a firearm, under Missouri law, is defined under 571.030.

Displaying a firearm, on one’s own property does not seem to be included within the prohibited uses.

Accusing someone of committing a crime that DOES NOT EXIST should be punishable by being hanged by the neck until dead.

Freeland_Dave
Freeland_Dave
3 years ago

I suggest you reread Missouri’s defination on what constitutes brandishing. You can brandish a knife, (lethal weapon) and without proof of an eminent bodily threat, which means “at that moment in time” you can be charged with brandishing a weapon. The crime exists and I suggest you amuse yourself with another handjob.i

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

Not when on one’s own property. I suggest that you reread 571.030.

And, to continue with the same two questions: Which College of Law awarded you your juris doctorate. And, in which states do you hold Bar membership?

And, I suggest that you continue to amuse yourself with your sheer idiocy. However, cease playing PRETEND attorney-at-law.

WildernessOfMirrors
WildernessOfMirrors
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

Missouri has a Castle Doctrine law, moron. They can brandish whatever weapon they like. Especially if they felt threatened.

It’s Liberals like you who don’t like the idea of self defense.
When the mob finally comes for you they won’t care what political party you belong to. And you will wish you had purchased a weapon.

Freeland_Dave
Freeland_Dave
3 years ago

I am not a liberal like these two who support BLM are by7 their own words.
I am a conservative and lefally carry concealed as I have for 30 years or more. I also have my property lawfully signed with proper waenings. I have also performed citizens arrests at gunpoint. You really should get all of your facts together as you sound like a gun nut idiot. BTW, I am a fully qualified expert marksman, a gun collector with over 120 very interesting but fully legal guns and you had better be warned I can target you easily from a distance of one mile and you’d be dead before you heard my gun report. Had enough of that in military service but eill do it again if absolutely necessary. Please don’t test my resolve as I don’t want to have to do those things again.

WildernessOfMirrors
WildernessOfMirrors
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

A gun nut idiot. Yeah, you are a liberal because you just had to go there.

And you are a gun collector, a fully qualified marksman too. And a sniper too. Of course you are. Wow. “Chuck” Mawhinney is in the house!

Could you be anymore full of s**t? Test your resolve? Gee dude, I’m scared now. I think maybe you have a $499 Ruger American with the stock scope and 50 yds is about your speed. I also think the only thing you ever served was time.

You know Dave, you are the second guy this week who has threatened to take me out at a distance of a mile. He was going to do it with his 783 Remington .380. (MSRP: $354). Not exactly high end. He would have been lucky to reach out about 700 yds with that caliber. What a dooshe.

And he spiced it up when he said he was an MMA champion too. He folded after a couple of posts because his lies didn’t add up.

So, another virtue signaling loser who feels the need to puff up his “resume.” I’ll have to add your vast “experience and credentials” to my list below. Total loser. But I have to admit, the gun/citizen’s arrest/expert marksman angle is a new one

This is an anonymous board Wavy Davy. You can say anything and there’s no way to prove it. Why is it that I run into so many millionaires, multi degree science whizzes, PhDs, real estate moguls, defense contractor research scientists and captains of industry on these boards, and they are all Democrats and liberals with nothing better to do than spend hours defending Obama and the Dems. And pining away for days gone by.

Just remember Dave the business end of your pop gun does not go in your mouth, although that’s where it should be.

Man, you hard guy special forces wannabes are a hoot! Have I “tested your resolve” yet, Dave?

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

Performed citizen’s arrest, in between picking up the lawyer’s dry cleaning and lunch orders?

WildernessOfMirrors
WildernessOfMirrors
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

I suggest you stop playing lawyer.

Freeland_Dave
Freeland_Dave
3 years ago

I am not a lawher but I can read, comprehend and follow the law. So what’s your excuse?

WildernessOfMirrors
WildernessOfMirrors
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

I can read comprehend and follow the law too. And what is allowed one day in court is not allowed the next day. It really depends on the politics of the judge. Why do you think the Left always goes judge shopping to the 9th Circus and then it gets overturned on appeal.

There are lib judges and conservative judges. That’s why the left is in such a panic over Ginsburg keeling over. The law has never been absolute. Iguess that is why Roberts can be a conservative for minute and a liberal for the next hour.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

What’s YOUR excuse. Too busy getting the coffee orders, correctly, for the actual lawyers?

Poor little thing that you are.

WildernessOfMirrors
WildernessOfMirrors
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

Missouri has a Castle Doctrine law, moron. They can brandish whatever weapon they like.

Freeland_Dave
Freeland_Dave
3 years ago

Wilderness of morons.
Missouri Law

571.030. 1. A person commits the crime of unlawful use of weapons if

he or she knowingly:

(1) Carries concealed upon or about his or her person a knife, a

firearm, a blackjack or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use; or

(2) Sets a spring gun; or

(3) Discharges or shoots a firearm into a dwelling house, a railroad

train, boat, aircraft, or motor vehicle as defined in section 302.010,

RSMo, or any building or structure used for the assembling of people; or

(4) Exhibits, in the presence of one or more persons, any weapon

readily capable of lethal use in an angry or threatening manner; or

563.031. 1. A person may, subject to the provisions of

subsection 2 of this section, use physical force upon another

person when and to the extent he reasonably believes such force

to be necessary to defend himself or a third person from what he

reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of unlawful

force by such other person, unless:

2. A person may not use deadly force upon another person

under the circumstances specified in subsection 1 of this section

unless he reasonably believes that such deadly force is necessary

to protect himself or another against death, serious physical

injury, rape, sodomy or kidnapping or serious physical injury

through robbery, burglary or arson.

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Does Missouri state law define brandishing?
No. However, a person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons if
he or she knowingly exhibits, in the presence of two or more people,
any weapon capable of lethal use in an angry or threatening manner.

On brandishing – A firearm does not need to be loaded for it to be considered a weapon. … Brandishing means showing the weapon, or exhibiting it to another person, “in a rude, angry or threatening manner” or using it in a “fight or quarrel.” One does not need to point the weapon at the other person.
Clearly, the woman was brandishing.

WildernessOfMirrors
WildernessOfMirrors
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

I’m Sorry Dave, I’m afraid I don’t care about that. Gardner will lose her case. This is a clear cut case of self defense. And these folks are smarter than the DA.

Missouri has concealed carry as of 2019 so there goes 571.030. 1
They did not discharge a weapon into their own home 571.030. 3 (who would do that anyway except BLM and Antifa scumbags like you.)
I would say they were in fear of their lives so they are in compliance with 563.031. 1 and 2, and they will be able to prove it by listening to the video.

As for brandishing you didn’t provide any statute numbers on this so I assume it’s just you playing lawyer and trying to shoehorn in someone’s opinion into your own silly conclusions.

See you in court Counselor Wannabe.

And you worked so hard cutting and pasting and assembling all that legal mumbo jumbo. It’s a good thing you aren’t the McCluskey’s lawyer. Or mine. I’d fire you on the spot

Look Dave, we know what the ultimate goals of you people are, disarm the populace, make it impossible to to protect oneself but give blacks the ability to kill white folks with impunity by defunding the police. Some BLM guy shot a driver in Provo Utah last night who got caught in a BLM street blocking protest. The driver hit the shooter and drove to the hospital. The shooter was arrested. The cops haven’t decided whether to charge the driver for failure to exit his car in the middle of a riot. Typical lib thinking. The driver is stable at the hospital. What would you have done had you been the driver? You probably would have listened to the rioter yelling at you. And you would be dead now.

Dave you are such a liberal dork.

3.57 million background checks were done in May and June alone. That means at least 3.5 million more gun owners. You can pass all the silly laws you want. If the police are non-existent or neutered folks will defend themselves at home, in front of their homes or on the street. Especially with concealed carry growing in red states and creeping into semi-blue states. Granted NY and CA are lost causes.

So you can “brandish” all the laws you want passed by Soros backed pols. People will say F.U. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6

Give up while you are ahead, or a foot. The law and time are not on your side.

Don
Don
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

When someone trespasses and threatens you, you have the RIGHT to brandish a firearm to diffuse the situation, or shoot if the agitator so dictates. His choice.

Freeland_Dave
Freeland_Dave
3 years ago
Reply to  Don

Go ahead. Test it and I do hope you are successful. Most state laws do not agree with you. But hey, they may in your state even though Missouri law says differently. I won’t tell you because you don’t want to believe it. But I will advise you to look it up in your state so you won’t get yourself into trouble.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

MAKE-BELIEVE legal advice from a PRETEND attorney-at-law.

TOO funny, little one. Why do you insist upon constantly HUMILIATING yourself?

Lensman
Lensman
3 years ago
Reply to  Freeland_Dave

They were on their own property. Brandishing a weapon only works as a charge if they were on public property. Stay in your basement troll boy.

Suresh
Suresh
3 years ago
Reply to  joe shmoe

Left/Libs women welcome illegals/jihadis and run around like cowards after they start committing gang rapes, assaults.

Here’s one such woman from Germany who was brutally murdered http://offtrade.net/cnmnews/muslim-confesses-murder-pro-jihadi-activist/

No guns , bring in more criminals immigrants = More assaults, rapes, murder of locals is Left/liberal pro-jihadi policy that Demonrats wants to impose

felix1999
felix1999
3 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

People in Germany are allowed to be armed. Clearly she chose NOT to be armed. They have strict gun laws but people are armed there.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
3 years ago
Reply to  joe shmoe

Agreed. If someone threatens your very existence, you do NOT sit and do nothing just to find out if they are serious.

The Second Amendment protects all the others.

Be safe, be trained, be alert.

felix1999
felix1999
3 years ago

Guns put teeth in liberty – especially our freedom of speech!

felix1999
felix1999
3 years ago

Are the McCloskeys’ DEFENDING police brutality “victims” also backed by SOROS?

tituspullo
tituspullo
3 years ago

this is entertaining. an america-hating democrat AG prosecuting two filthy rich america-hating democrat trial lawyers who give big money to the democrats. this is a win-win

TD
TD
3 years ago

I hope TRUMP ovrerrules that POS Democrat AG.

Some people clearly deserve to be pardoned. when they actually haven’t committed a crime.

Lensman
Lensman
3 years ago
Reply to  TD

Not to worry. If the case actually made it to court, it would be overthrown at the Missouri Supreme Court level.

xsnipe
xsnipe
3 years ago

First and foremost, the first amendment protects an individual’s right against the government, not a private citizen. Secondly, you don’t have first amendment protections on private property (edit ->) of another.

After all that is crux of the argument used against gun owners… they can be prohibited from exercising their second amendment rights on another’s private property, regardless of whether that property is a home or a business.

felix1999
felix1999
3 years ago
Reply to  xsnipe

You do have First Amendment rights on private property. For example, if I want to put a Vote for Trump sign on my property, I can and it wouldn’t matter if my neighbor didn’t like it. Look at all the protesters. They carry banners and signs all the time on private property.

Gun owners have the right to protect themselves also. If you are on someone else’s property and have a legal concealed carry gun, you wouldn’t use it to defend yourself? People have stopped robberies in stores, commercial property, by using a gun. Don’t short change yourself on your rights.

A guy, I think it was Minnesota, stopped a Muslim from beheading him where one woman was already beheaded and another woman was in the process of being beheaded with a gun at a business. Had he not shot the Muslim beheader, another woman would have been beheaded and he would have been next! Was he supposed to stand there and watch or run away?

xsnipe
xsnipe
3 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Perhaps I should have been more clear… you do not have first amendment protections on the private property of another. An individual cannot violate your first amendment rights, unless they are a member or agent of government.

As far as second amendment rights… depending on the state… you cannot legally carry in a business (private property) that is posted with signage prohibiting firearms. In some states said signage carries the weight of law while in others it is simply a trespassing charge. For me personally, I avoid these posted businesses. A privately owned/leased property… other than your own… where the owner/lessee objects to firearms on their property… you could find yourself on the wrong side of things if you carry on their property. Their property rights override your second amendment rights… at least in the state where I live, even in a residential setting. To show why this is important to mention – my state has a civil immunity law that protects an individual from civil lawsuits in a justified use of force case, however it is also law that an individual can only be justified in the use of force in a place where Ithey have a legal right to be… if they’re trespassing, thereby making their legal right to be there questionable they could lose civil immunity protections.

I don’t short change myself with regards to my rights… I simply know the laws where I live and work… your mileage may vary.

felix1999
felix1999
3 years ago
Reply to  xsnipe

I certainly DO have freedom of speech on someone else’s property.
I can argue with a nieighbor if my view is diffferent than their view. Whether it is private property or not we ALL have first amendment rights. Geesh!

Concealed carry does depend in the state whether there is signage or not. Anyone can post a sign. It is the LAW that determines whether you have gun rights or not. Being on private property doesn’t trump gun rights when the LAW says otherwise.

I have never heard of such craziness that you are posting before….

xsnipe
xsnipe
3 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Participating in an exchange with your neighbor on their property is not exercising your first amendment rights. Such an exchange depends on your neighbor’s willingness to allow it and/or be party to it, your neighbor cannot be compelled to allow it. Never mind that the freedom of speech is but one of the rights encompassed in the first amendment. The actions of the protesters was not about the freedom of speech, but about the right to peaceably assemble… an action which again is not protected on the private property of another. Given that they forcibly entered the private community which was gated, and posted with both a private road sign and no trespassing sign. It was not a public road/property and the protesters had no legal right to be there.

The protections afforded by our rights are restrictions against the actions of government (officials, entities and agents) towards private citizens… not private citizen towards private citizen.

Crinkle Tart
Crinkle Tart
3 years ago

Cops only arrest you, it’s the prosecutors who put you in jail. Hey BLM it’s time to start offing prosecutors.

felix1999
felix1999
3 years ago
Reply to  Crinkle Tart

Why do that when SOROS has put allot of prosecutors in place to avoid prosecuting criminals. Recall the fake black harassment crime in Chicago starring Jussie Smollett. If it is not a SOROS financed attorney there are plenty of left wingers to take their place. Our once prestigious law schools are lefty indoctrination factories. We are rotting from within.

Chris Wolf
Chris Wolf
3 years ago

Utah Republican candidate for Congress Burgess Owens said it better than anyone: “We’re under attack.”
The American people are going to see that we are under attack and they’re going to vote for the candidates who are on our side.
We’re under attack.
Right now.

felix1999
felix1999
3 years ago

OH NO!
Say it isn’t so.

Rumors Swirl: Supreme Court Justices Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas May Retire
BY JOEL B. POLLAK 1 Jul 2020

Supreme Court Justices Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas may be planning to retire soon, according to rumors in the media Wednesday.

Justice Clarence Thomas, a conservative appointed by George H.W. Bush, is privately seen by Trump’s aides as the most likely to retire this year. While Thomas has not given any indication of doing so, the White House and Senate Republicans are quietly preparing for a possible opening, according to a White House official and two outside Trump political advisers who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the private conversations.

Thomas is 72 and Alito is 70 years old.

In addition, liberal justices Justices Stephen Breyer (81) and Ruth Bader Ginsburg (87) are considered candidates for retirement.

(RBT will never retire. Sitting on the bench is what keeps her going.)

Therefore, it is possible that whoever is president for the next four years could have the opportunity to make four Supreme Court appointments.

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/07/01/rumors-swirl-supreme-court-justices-samuel-alito-clarence-thomas-may-retire/

felix1999
felix1999
3 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Update – it was FAKE NEWS!

AlgorithmicAnalyst
AlgorithmicAnalyst
3 years ago

lol, Soros Prosecutor goes after Democrat lawyers with guns 🙂

I’m betting on the lawyers, I think they are smarter than the Prosecutor, and have a better grasp of the law.

mtman2
mtman2
3 years ago

Isn’t there “QUALIFICATIONS” + “TESTING” for such a position…?
This woman’s highly unqualified to be lawyer let alone a prosecutor.
One should have to know something well enuff to be something…!!!

WildernessOfMirrors
WildernessOfMirrors
3 years ago

Kim Gardner, Another America hating loser Leftist black with Soros money and a chip on her shoulder.

ahamiltonfederalist
ahamiltonfederalist
3 years ago

pathetic libtard

RR515
RR515
3 years ago

This communist slime ball needs to be shown the correct type of mask for Rona – a tight fitting plastic bag securely sealed at the neck.

stephen5970
stephen5970
3 years ago

This is called working the system from the inside. Never mind the laws she is supposed to enforce for the good of all, just push her own agenda.

Resistance to unlawful behaviour will be stopped if she gets her way. Be a violent rioter and looter and charges are dismissed. Lawful FOIA requests go answered with BS claims why they aren’t answered. It just goes on and on. Her arrogance is appalling.

Of course the friendly media will cover up for her and help her push her agenda. “Peaceful demonstrators” trespassing on a private road, destroying a gate designed to stop them, some armed with guns, and making verbal threats. Yes, the very definition of “peaceful”. Only in their minds, not in law.

And where were the police to protect the residents? On orders to stand down?

Ranger_Ric
Ranger_Ric
3 years ago

There is only one thing that stops this and that is civil war and killing the enemy. We outnumber them. We out gun them. We have the vast majority of the military and police on our side. Until their cities are burned to the ground and leftists genocided or forced out of the country, you will watch them continue to win even though they are weak.

There is only one way to settle this and if it is not done, you will lose your country.

stephen5970
stephen5970
3 years ago

Everyone gets doxed on the right. Time to publish where Soros lives, where his offices are located, where he is and where to demonstrate against him. When his armed security show up and show their weapons, go full tilt showing them off on the internet and scream about their armed “violent” behaviour.

List every company of his, and to boycott them. Demand that his advertising be dropped. Hurt him where it really hurts – his income sources. His reputation, well, being a Nazi collaborator taught him how to be a winner, so he really doesn’t care if he is smeared with the truth. But giving him his own treatment might be a way to help bring him down a few pegs.

lostlegends
lostlegends
3 years ago

Change of thread. On May 22nd U.S. Customs & Border Protection seized 10,800 assault rifle parts in Louisville, KY. The gun parts were bound for a home in Melbourne, FL. The shipment originated in Shenzhen, China. These gun parts are for full auto rifles. The source of this story was Zerohedge last night, 6-30-20. One wonders how many shipments got through. I believe they were destined for Antifa and BLM for use on us. In February India seized nuclear weapons bound for Pakistan. Shipment originated in China. I have long expected China to arm rebels here with military weapons. It’s happening. Story was tipped to Pamela but she did not publish it – hence this comment for readers.

felix1999
felix1999
3 years ago
Reply to  lostlegends

Zero Hedge is an ify source….

CARRENO BARTOX
CARRENO BARTOX
3 years ago

Trying daily to complete the list of the most evil human beings especially in US, and their diabolic creations worldwide.
The Civil War has started…

ABRAMS
ACOSTA
BEZOS
BIDEN 1
BIDEN 2
BLASIO
BLUMENTHAL
BOLTON
BRENNAN
CASEY
CASTRO
C E P I
CHAKRABARTI
CLAPPER
CLINTON 1
CLINTON 2
COHEN
COMEY
COONS
COOPER
CUOMO 1
CUOMO 2
DINGELL
DORSEY
ELIAS
FAUCI
FEINSTEIN
GARCIA
GARDNER
G A V I
GILLIBRAND
G L O B A L F U N D
GREENE
GRISHAM
HARRIS
HIRONO
HOLDER
J O H N H O P K I N S UNIVERSITY
LIEU
LIGHTFOOT
MARKEY
MATTIS
MENENDEZ
MILLER
MILLS
NADLER
OBAMA
OCASIO-CORTEZ
OMAR
McCABE
NEWSOM
NORTHAM
PELOSI
PITCHAI
PRESSLEY
PRITZKER
REDD
RICE
RICHMOND
SANDERS
SCHUMER
SCHIFF
SARSOUR
SHARPTON
SINEMA
SOROS
SWALWELL
TESTER
TLAIB
UDALL
WARREN
WATERS
WHITEHOUSE
WHITMER
WOJCICKI
ZUCKERBERG

fedup666
fedup666
3 years ago

The black hand of the Devil’s disciple, Soros, is everywhere.

Jane_Dowe1366
Jane_Dowe1366
3 years ago

Demo-nazi scum

wpjokari
wpjokari
3 years ago

if you’re white and especially male, I advise moving out of those liberal cities: do you really know your DA? what kind of jury will you face/will they allow? the judges?….an independent reporter (michael strickland) in portland, oregon was set upon by violent antifa (think andy ngo, who was not armed, and had to take the beating w/ perm. brain damage) and pulled his CCW pistol in fear for his life: DA gave him 21 felony/misdemeanor counts and was found guilty by a judge because he couldn’t trust the jury they allowed: “During jury selection, after listening to an afternoon of prospective jurors criticize guns during the voir dire process, Strickland decided to forgo a jury trial and instead let the judge decide his case. Strickland is scheduled to be sentenced in May.”

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
3 years ago

Why the hell does no-one make short work of George Soros while he continues to create havoc? When Canadian weapons inventor, Gerald Bull, was helping Saddam Hussein build a special tube rocket launcher to launch missiles on Israel, Mossad assassinated him in Brussels. Why can’t someone do the same with this piece of rubbish? I fail to understand why this piece of human filth still contaminates the atmosphere with his bad breath!

whammie
whammie
3 years ago

IF… this BAR-fly has ties to Soros… burn his ASS-etts..
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DVader
DVader
3 years ago

It’s a cloudy day. Obviously Soros is responsible…

Robert Kahlcke
Robert Kahlcke
3 years ago

If I posted this once I’ve posted it thousands of times, The Democrat-Communist-Islamic-Nazi Terrorist Organization, must be DESTROYED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. Period

Stephen Honig
Stephen Honig
3 years ago

Soros goes after people wit guns and now he’s saying it’s okay!

Drifter
Drifter
3 years ago

Aside from the fact that she has no legal justification for anything she says, “Gardner, who was elected in 2016 on a platform of reforming the criminal justice system, was reportedly backed by liberal billionaire George Soros” Reported by whom? .Where is the evidence that this obscure Dem operative from middle America is backed by Soros .

John Sinclair
John Sinclair
3 years ago

Women are great when you get them into positions of power because they do exactly as you tell them. Georgie Porgie knows that which is why he pushes to get as many women in as possible. And if one does step out of line the controlled women are more than willing to slap her down. Win-Win getting women in as they don’t talk back and do exactly as they are told, so much less trouble than free thinking and free acting men.

tduck1950
tduck1950
3 years ago

The commies should have been shot once they stormed the gate.
It’s time to quit this pc treatment of those ,who wish to destroy our country.

mtman2
mtman2
3 years ago

Isn’t there “QUALIFICATIONS” + “TESTING” for such a position…?
This woman’s highly unqualified to be lawyer let alone a prosecutor.
One should have to know something well enuff to be something…!!!

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