[ April 25, 2024 ]
Justice is being served. Now we must address how a bad, racist cop such as Chauvin was allowed to stay on the force despite a long record of violence and abuse.
Virtually every official in Minnesota with influence over the Minneapolis police and the decision to keep Derek Chauvin on the force despite his alarming record is a Democrat: the governor, the attorney general, the Minneapolis congresswoman and the mayor. The city council consists of 12 Democrats and a Green Party member. The Democrat Party is the “system” that protected the bad cop and led to George Floyd’s death. (more here)
Where are the hearings?
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Chauvin, the officer involved in Floyd’s death, was involved in the death of another citizen while Amy Klobuchar was prosecutor. Chauvin was one of six officers who fired on and killed Wayne Reyes in 2006 after Reyes reportedly aimed a shotgun at police after stabbing his friend and girlfriend. While the death happened during Klobuchar’s tenure at the helm of the Hennepin County Attorney’s Office, Klobuchar did not criminally charge other police involved in the more than two dozen officer-involved fatalities.
Where are the hearings?
Minnesota attorney general to charge Derek Chauvin with second-degree murder, add charges for 3 other police officers
By Stephen Montemayor, Star Tribune, June 3, 2020:
Attorney General Keith Ellison plans to elevate charges against the former Minneapolis police officer who knelt on George Floyd’s neck while adding charges of aiding and abetting murder against the other three officers at the scene, according to multiple law enforcement sources familiar with the case.
Ellison is expected to provide an update this afternoon on the state’s investigation into Floyd’s death. According to sources, former officer Derek Chauvin, recorded on video kneeling on Floyd’s neck as he begged for air on May 25, will now be charged with second-degree murder.
The other three officers at the scene — Tou Thao, J. Alexander Kueng and Thomas Lane — will also be charged with aiding and abetting second-degree murder, according to the sources, who spoke on conditions of anonymity. Chauvin was arrested last Friday and charged with third-degree murder and manslaughter.
Thao was recorded watching as Chauvin continued to press on Floyd’s neck with his knee. Kueng was one of the first officers on the scene and helped pin Floyd down. Lane was detailed in earlier charges as pointing a gun at Floyd before handcuffing, and later asked whether officers should roll Floyd on his side as he was restrained.
The charges come just days after Gov. Tim Walz asked Ellison to take over the prosecution, which until Sunday had been led by the Hennepin County Attorney’s Office.
This is a developing story. Stay tuned for further updates.
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3 years ago
The libturd justice system couldn’t convict a 5 time felon from killing a girl with a stolen gun, but will probably convict an LEO for sure.
3 years ago
THIS is the way to start a civil war.
3 years ago
i’ll wait for a jury to hear his case. my guess is there is another side to his story, and maybe we should hear it before we lynch him on this website? how about the 2 blacks law enforcement guys murdered this week by these democrat thugs? where’s the outrage over them? do their black lives not matter?
3 years ago
Reply to
tituspullo
A single death is being used to ignite riots across the country, while tens of thousands of deaths were/are ignored. The Democrat Party/MSM tag team is out for blood because that’s the only way they can TAKE power.
3 years ago
Reply to
spfoam1
I’m NOT sure the cops are guilty
I’m serious. The basic picture is that the perp was apparently breaking the law, and he resisted arrest. OK, so the standard protocols for that are to restrain the perp, and facilitate his arrest. Hold him, or sit on him if necessary, and restrain him with minimal physical damage to the perp. The cops then prepare to move him to transport, where he can be handled at a facility. SO far, so good, the cops did all that.
BUT unbeknownst to anyone on scene, this big strong guy could drop dead at any moment from heart failure. And that’s what he did, while he was under restraint. He complained about breathing, but that’s normal when the airway is partly closed. Cops are supposed to do that, because it limits the oxygen supply, and weakens the muscles, and that facilitates the restraint. This was a very big guy. Then he died, unexpectedly. The cops did not realize that the partial airway closure would contribute to death. They did not know the prep was close to death already when he was restrained.
SO WHO is guilty? The cops did the standard stuff, but the perp died unexpectedly. IT WILL BE HARD to convict at trial.
3 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
Yep. I have no idea what the whole truth is. Whatever it is, it does not justify riots.
Shortness of breath is a symptom of a heart attack….
Only time will reveal the whole truth. Until then we will get what the media wants us to hear and see about it. The Democrats will keep shifting the focus to everything except the truth and the treason of the Democrat Party.
3 years ago
Reply to
spfoam1
sp: Yes, shortness of breath is a symptom of a heart attack [or many other problems, including asthma, or having Covid-19]. The problem here is that the standard restraint protocol calls for partially closing the airway, to facilitate restraint.
3 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
I understand the standard restraint protocol. I’m suggesting that the struggle to even get him to the ground could have triggered a heart attack. He could have been on the verge of a heart attack when the confrontation began. The pressure on the side of the neck would cause even more restriction of blood flow to the brain. The restricted blood flow to the brain during a heart attack is what creates the feeling of lack of breath or difficulty breathing.
You can render someone unconscious very quickly by applying pressure to the sides of the neck. It looks like a choke, but it doesn’t restrict the breathing at all.
3 years ago
Reply to
spfoam1
sp: Oh yes, all true, he had multiple health problems. But if a big guy came at me aggressively fighting because I was trying to restrain hm… well I would not assume that he was weak and near death. His robust physical size, and his aggression may have confused the cops. I AM NOT exonerating those cops. Just trying to figure things out.
3 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
I understand what you are saying. I’m not making a call either way because I don’t know the whole truth. I’m not pointing a finger at you in any way, I’m just adding my thoughts on the matter.
3 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
The foot on his head cut off his brain from oxygen and his heart stopped. We just don’t agree on this.
3 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
felix: “We just don’t agree on this.”
Yes, however, I value your comment here, because it makes a good counterpoint for readers. They can read mine, and yours, and make their own determination. Furthermore, I larded my comment with caveats, because that’s the way I see it now. But I may see it differently later. SO thanks for your comment!
3 years ago
Reply to
StevenRobert
Maybe, the autopsy found fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use. Fentanyl causes respiratory depression [diminished breathing] which causes hypoxia [reduced oxygen blood levels]. That certainly did not help!
“The Hennepin County autopsy report declares George Floyd’s manner of death a homicide. The cause of death was cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual restraint and neck suppression. Other conditions, atherosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease; fentanyl intoxication; recent methamphetamine use. Dr. Michael Baden conducted a private autopsy and said he died of asphyxia.”
https://www.independentsentinel.com/george-floyd-autopsy-drugs-in-his-system/
George Floyd also tested positive for COVID-19
3 years ago
Reply to
spfoam1
You can try to justify your view all you like but George was DOA when the first responders came. He wasn’t unconscious. He had no pulse and being dead, remained unresponsive. People at the hospital tried to revive him for at least an hour with no success.
PRIOR to being on the ground and when first put on the ground he was ALIVE and BREATHING! Those are just facts that are coming out.
From a legal stand point the officer murdered him. It doesn’t matter if George Floyd was sober, drunk or on drugs. You should know that too….The guy couldn’t breathe! What more could the guy do before he DIED? Still the officer Chauvin wouldn’t let up his foot.
The people there were begging him when George went limp, to take his pulse and let up his foot. The officer would not do it or have anyone else take his pulse. There is no excuse for that. It’s on the tape. If,you viewed the tape, you witnessed abuse in action by officer Derek Chauvin who has a HISTORY of it as a policeman.
AGAIN –
Here’s what oxygen deprivation works –
A few seconds of oxygen deprivation won’t cause lasting harm, so a child who holds his breath in frustration, a combatant choked unconscious during a Jiu-Jitsu, and a diver who needs a few extra seconds to come up for air are unlikely to experience brain damage. The precise timeline of anoxic brain injuries depends on a number of personal idiosyncrasies, including overall brain and cardiovascular health, as well as the level of blood oxygenation at the time of injury. Generally speaking, injuries begin at the one-minute mark, steadily worsening thereafter:
* Between 30-180 seconds of oxygen deprivation, you may lose consciousness.
* At the one-minute mark, brain cells begin dying.
* At three minutes, neurons suffer more extensive damage, and lasting brain damage becomes more likely.
* At five minutes, death becomes imminent.
https://www.spinalcord.com/blog/what-happens-after-a-lack-of-oxygen-to-the-brain
3 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
Krusader: WELL I HAVE been on and off ‘the bandwagon’ several times myself. Every time something new pops up, the whole picture changes. And I could be wrong this time too. But as we get more data, it seems like we get closer to the truth.
3 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
The post (autopsy) toxicology came back fentanyl and norfentanyl. Probably contributed if not outright killed him.
There were news reports of recent methamphetamine use as well.
Fentanyl is a synthetic opiate more powerful than heroin and morphine. Norfentanyl indicatesthe liver was metabolizing the fentanyl.
A second autopsy reported the police caused his death by preventing him from breathing with the police officers knee on back and neck.
3 years ago
Reply to
StevenRobert
George Floyd Tested Positive for COVID-19: Autopsy
https://www.theepochtimes.com/george-floyd-tested-positive-for-covid-19-full-autopsy-report-shows_3376125.html
3 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
I don’t think it was his airway that was compromised, rather his carotid artery.
3 years ago
Reply to
Richard
According to Floyd’s family, the results of a second independent autopsy they commissioned said that “sustained pressure on the right side of Floyd’s carotid artery impeded blood flow to the brain, and weight on his back impeded his ability to breathe.”
3 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
Depraved indifference. If that police officer had been cashiered or put on other duty this murder probably never would’ve happened. The same could be said of officer Nour as well.
3 years ago
Reply to
tituspullo
There needs to be outrage there and when found, should be given capital punishment when convicted. ALL LIVES MATTER; not just BLACK lives.
3 years ago
Reply to
tituspullo
I’m in full agreement with you. The reason floyd was stopped is he was trying to pass a counterfeit $20 bill, and he was all jacked up on drugs. One has to wonder, if floyd wasn’t trying to pass a fake $20 and doing drugs if he would have been having an encounter with the police in the first place. Could it be floyd placed himself in a position to be harmed because of his own actions?
I live in mexifornia, a liberal hell hole and a real sh*t hole of a state too. I’m about 2 miles from disneyland and right next door is Garden Grove. The place is crawling with antifa and allot of businesses have their store fronts boarded up. Pretty sure they are going to make trouble tonight. I wish there was some patriots around me. I would like to go break some bones, but I’m surrounded by frightened liberal sissies. I asked several people and they all peed on themselves. I would be a fool to go alone with no one to have my back…..
3 years ago
Reply to
anonQ
And yet as bad as Californication is, Mexico is worse, for all practical purposes, Mexico is now a narco-terrorist state. Is anywhere on the left coast any better? Maybe Alaska?
3 years ago
Reply to
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
Alaska? maybe. The idiots that stole the last election sure trying to make mexifornia worse than mexico!
3 years ago
Thanks to all of the good cops that help maintain and restore law and order. As for the cops that stood by and let George Floyd die, including the white cop, the Asian cop, the Hispanic cop, and the black cop, they should all be prosecuted.
3 years ago
What’s going to be any problem for Keith X about proving the most depraved and wonton acts of murder and mayhem with aggravating circumstances and a hate crime to a Lake Street, Minneapolis jury?
Andy white male who thinks he can get “a jury of his peers” in a sh*t hole precinct like that is fugggitabbboudddit.
3 years ago
Reply to
Chris Wolf
Rodney King 1991 provides some clues about how this trial might go. On video, a very stoned King viciously attacked a cop who was arresting him, and the cop knocked King down with one blow. Then they fiddled with King on the ground while he resisted restraint. The stupid MSM cut off the first part, so it just looked like cops toying with King on the ground for no reason. Riots ensued, and many died.
But at trial, a mixed jury saw the whole video, and acquitted the cops. Of course the MSM buried that result. With a jury trial, that might happen here too.
————
“The Rodney King ‘Beating’ Was Media Race-Baiting BS”
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2o1jy5/the_rodney_king_beating_was_media_racebaiting_bs/
3 years ago
Reply to
Chris Wolf
They can move it to another district. Other cases that only looked bad, acquitted the cop when it was questionable. This one is not questionable. The first responders have already confirmed as well as the hospital people that Floyd was already dead. The medical facts speak for themselves.
3 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
At this point I could not care less about that dead suspect, Mr Floyd. I was initially sympathetic and willing to reserve judgement about the culpability of the police. Not anymore. The only thought I have about Mr Floyd is that he is the cause of all this enormous, irreparable loss to my country.
Because he was intoxicated in public, passing counterfeit money and resisted arrest.
This will never be over.
3 years ago
Reply to
Chris Wolf
Huh? Blaming a DEAD MAN for the actions of others?
I guarantee you, he’d rather not be dead. It’s not the fault of a DEAD man how others react. Their behavior is their responsibilty. I don’t blame the peaceful protesters. They have the right to peacefully protest. I blame the VIOLENT ones that are damaging property, destroying lives and killing other people in the process. I don’t group them all together like that because it may be more convenient.
It doesn’t matter if it is true that he passed a counterfeit bill, was sober, high or drunk. Legally speaking he DIED under the foot of Chauvin.
Your anger should be directed at this cop for killing this guy. Had let up let up his foot, Floyd might still be alive. It’s when Floyd died at the foot of a white cop, no less, that gave raw meat to the liberal MSM for headlines. The MSM as you know are anti Trump and will make him look like the killer.
3 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
A 19-year veteran, serving the city of Minneapolis, putting his life on the line every day, responding to citizen complaints, mostly from black people begging the police to come to protect them from violent, drug-addicted, criminal black people. While the Leftist/Marxist society and weak, pandering political leadership continues incrementally pulling the rug out from under the police, leaving them defenseless against the most honorable street thugs.
Do you really believe any of these tales of woh that the media broadcast and publish without even a passing thought about corroboration? Drug addicts never do anything wrong!
The Floyd arrest video has been radically edited and chopped up into little pieces to coverup the parts when Mr Floyd violently attacked the cops, I guarantee you, you will find.
He wasn’t on the ground being restrained by three cops because he passed a counterfeit bill. He was on the ground being restrained by three cops because he attacked them in some way, that is my belief, and the evidence has been hidden or destroyed by someone, the merchant, the government or the media. Cops are human. They don’t have to take being verbally threaten, insulted and harassed all day, every day, burdened with new bureaucratic regulations and protocols that make their jobs more dangerous every day, AND be punching bags for drunks.
JOB #1 for everyone claiming to support black people: get them off drugs and alcohol.
Trouble is, all the white Leftists are drug addicts, too, and that’s non-negotiable.
In fact, it never even happened.
3 years ago
Well maybe a smoother way to handle this is to go back to what that Rapper said. We should not rush to judgment, because we don’t have all the evidence yet. For sure, that video looks horrible. But that does not seem to be the whole story.
3 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
You cannot use that line on White Haters. You’ll only receive a derisive response, similar to, “Didn’t you see that video? Are you blind? You’re just a terrible racist.”
Logic and White Haters mix like oil and water.
3 years ago
Good!
No one should ever be put through this. Supposedly this kind of choke hold is illegal for police officers as well. He was cuffed and another cop held his feet when he was on the ground. When he went limp, was when it could have become murder and on tape. People witnessing this pleaded for the cop to remove his foot. Chauvin refused. Floyd was already dead when he was put in the ambulance according to the first responders. Floyd had NO pulse and was unresponsive. The first responders, tried to bring him back and couldn’t. They tried to revive him in the hospital for an hour, also with no success. He was dead.
It doesn’t matter if Floyd was sober, drunk or high, he was already dead thanks to officer Chauvin. Chauvin was on Floyd’s neck for more than eight minutes, even after he fell unconscious.
Here’s what oxygen deprivation works –
A few seconds of oxygen deprivation won’t cause lasting harm, so a child who holds his breath in frustration, a combatant choked unconscious during a Jiu-Jitsu, and a diver who needs a few extra seconds to come up for air are unlikely to experience brain damage. The precise timeline of anoxic brain injuries depends on a number of personal idiosyncrasies, including overall brain and cardiovascular health, as well as the level of blood oxygenation at the time of injury. Generally speaking, injuries begin at the one-minute mark, steadily worsening thereafter:
* Between 30-180 seconds of oxygen deprivation, you may lose consciousness.
* At the one-minute mark, brain cells begin dying.
* At three minutes, neurons suffer more extensive damage, and lasting brain damage becomes more likely.
* At five minutes, death becomes imminent.
https://www.spinalcord.com/blog/what-happens-after-a-lack-of-oxygen-to-the-brain
3 years ago
Really? If it was your white father, cuffed on the ground, complaining he couldn’t breathe, and they were black cops, would you be saying the same thing? I don’ t think so and you know that too….
The violent murdering protesters should be locked up and have the book thrown at them too. Their behavior is not justified by this man’s death. The First Amendament only calls for PEACEFUL assembly to protest.
3 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
It doesn’t matter to me if your father walks around black and blue from fights, beats your mom and other people, resists arrest or gets high off booze or “massive doses” of drugs. That’s your business. If it was your father, regardless of what kind of a father he is, you’d be singing a different tune and you know it.
I am not your father or your mother. I am not responsible for you or your views. My kids were brought up better than to DEFEND or try to RATIONALIZE away a death based on skin color or stereotypes in a situation involving an individual.. They judge each individual situation by what happened. When facts come out and differs from their original speculation, they adjust their position and go with the facts rather than stubbornly stick with their original opinion.
We are proud of our kids who are now adults. They are not alcoholics or take any mind altering drugs. They are good conservative kids. So trying to personally attack me or my family won’t work either. LOL! I was hoping you could adjust your position to the facts and have some empathy if it was your father under the officer’s foot.
Floyd was cuffed just trying to breathe! When he went limp, the officers still did nothing. The officers refused to even have someone else get down and take his pulse. He had no pulse as confirmed by the first responders. He was already dead! He DIED under Chauvin’s foot!
Chauvin is screwed and it’s all on tape. Even his body cam tape won’t help him. It will show Floyd alive! The other three officers will most likely be charged with something too, if they aren’t already and should be for standing there or holding his feet down and doing nothing when clearly Floyd was no longer responsive.
Chauvin has many complaints of ABUSE with arrests in other policing situations. Chauvin has a short fuse and over reacts. He has a history of complaints in the 14 years or so he has been with this precinct and when working at another job as a security person. A night club owner came out and commented on that too….He has seen him over react to problems to.
No, we don’t watch CNN either. We haven’t watched CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC for years. We are selective when we watch FOX and stay with the few conservatives on there like Tucker, Sean, Laura, Judge Jeannie and Lou Dobbs for examples. There is another one who does the Swamp Watch, forget his name… often watch him too.
Hopefully you will come around too….
3 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
Are you still babbling on?
“There you go again” still trying to justify your stereotype racism when the FACTS don’t support it in the situation of George Floyd.
I don’t agree with with looting, killing, destroying other people’s lives and property but you need to ignore I clearly stated that and LIE to still try and justify your racism. I have also clearly stated I am not responsible for what OTHERS do and that includes you and people I never knew and before I existed! LOL!!!!
You might want to get on your knees and pray about your racism.
Calm down. It’s time to move on and stop embarrassing yourself.
3 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
I though you could handle some facts but I guess I was wrong. Truth is your enemy so go ahead. Broad-brush everyone and maintain you racist stereotype o feel superior no matter what.
Still stuck on ad hominems as your defense? People always rely on that when they can’t defend themselves. Never argue facts, right? That would be too much to ask of someone who is too emotional and wants to believe whatever makes them feel good.. Facts be dammed!
I distinguish between old fashioned justice and social justice. There is virtue in applying proper justice but you wouldn’t understand that. . That seems to go over your head too. You are the one that loves to conflate racism into your ad hominem mix. Guaranteed the outcome will be what I have stated and now the other three are being rightfully being charged. You bore me with your racist insecure dribble
3 years ago
Before Hakim Muhammad was the AG of minnysoetuh, we were informed that all charges had to be directed by the Hennepin County, Michael O. Freeman.
There was so much rumbling that he took no action, regarding the hate crime committed by the negro poeleese thing.
Now, with Hakim Muhammad at the wheel … you minnysoetuhns are in far better hands.
You get what you vote for.
3 years ago
Reply to
Achmed Mohandjob
Two women were beaten by him and they still voted him in. Sigh.
3 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
Seriously, what else is to be expected out of Left Wingnut Regressives (Democrat Party members) and the populace of minnysoetuh?
3 years ago
Justice is being served. Now we must address how a bad, racist cop like Chauvin was allowed to stay on the force despite a long record of violence and abuse.
Thank God! No one wants to talk about Officer Derek Chauvin’s record of true brutality on the job and off the job. He has registered complaints for genuine abuse with who he arrests. His wife knows and has filed for divorce. Let his record on that come out too!
While the death happened during Klobuchar’s tenure at the helm of the Hennepin County Attorney’s Office, Klobuchar did not criminally charge other police involved in the more than two dozen officer-involved fatalities.
Opps! The truth comes out about DEM Klobuchar who was dying to be Biden’s VP! Maybe HER political career is finished too!!!!!!
3 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
What’s the “long reference”?
Isn’t that the same wife that was quoted, just eighteen months ago, raving about how wonderful and charming her husband was?
The case that you reference during Klobuchar’s tenure as minnysoetuh’s AG …. was when a murderer (stabbed his girlfriend to death and another person in the car, in which he was riding, stabbed him to death as well) pointed a shotgun at six police … all six of them emptied their magazines.
You have anything else?
3 years ago
I always think the worst and I wouldn’t be surprise to find Chauvin was on a mission to instigate a race war for the democrats because, Russia, Kavanaugh, Impeachment, and their biological weapon release to destroy the economy all failed to bring down the President.
3 years ago
Reply to
Bob
Seriously? LOL! He is finished I don’t think so….
You are certainly entitled to your opinion.
Do you really think he wants to be a white cop in a prison of mostly minorities convicted of killing a black man? He might as well put a gun to his own head and pull the trigger after being convicted or even now, .
3 years ago
Remember in that same city, affirmative action hire black m o s l e m Mohamed Noor, who murdered white, unarmed, noncriminal Justine Damond, had his police training “fast tracked” because Mayor Betsy Hodges wanted Somalians.
2 psychiatrists and Noor’s training officers voiced concerns about Noor’s fitness for police duty.
In Noor’s 2 years as an officer, Noor had three formal complaints against him, two of which were pending resolution.
In a separate case from May 2017, he was being sued for allegedly assaulting a woman while on duty.
2 months before Noor murdered Damond, Noor pointed a gun at a drivers head he had pulled over for a minor traffic violation.
After Noor murdered Damond, he was placed on paid admin leave for 8 months and was not fired until the day he was charged. The ignorance of Democrats is on full display.
3 years ago
The decision to charge Chauvin so quick was a political decision made by racist women beating, Antifa supporting, m o s l e m MN AG Keith Ellison.
On May 28, Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman said there is evidence that does not support criminal charges.
On May 29, Freeman announced Chauvin was charged and said that was the quickest they had ever charged an officer.
3 years ago
Mr Floyd died of COVID-19.
3 years ago
Bull. You’re not looking for an honest conversation on anything. Even though my comment substantially agreed with your opinion, you deleted my comment anyway. FU
