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Hi Ben Hur,

Q&A Jesus:Before Abraham Was, I Am (John 8:58)

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Matthew 10:5

These twelve Jesus sent out after instructing them: “Do not go in the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter any city of the Samaritans; 6but rather go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.…

Prophet Jesus pbuh was only sent for the people of Jews at his period of time. He is the first and last at his period of time.

Prophet Moses pbuh also sent only for the people of Jews at his period of time. He is the first and last at his period of time.

A study of the Christian scriptures reveals that Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity. In fact there is not a single unequivocal statement in the entire Bible where Jesus (pbuh) himself says, “I am God” or where he says, “worship me”.

(i) “My Father is greater than I.”

[The Bible, John 14:28]

(ii) “My Father is greater than all.”

[The Bible, John 10:29]

(iii) “…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God….”

[The Bible, Mathew 12:28]

(iv) “…I with the finger of God cast out devils….”

[The Bible, Luke 11:20]

(v) “I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.”

[The Bible, John 5:30]

“Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know.”

[The Bible, Acts 2:22]

Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:

“I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is

come, come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me”.

Deuteronomy 6:4

“Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one!

Matthew 19:16

And someone came to Him and said, “Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may obtain eternal life?” 17And He said to him, “Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.”…

Clearly, to obtain eternal life, you must keep the commandments…

Crucifixion or Crucifiction? by Dr Zakir Naik – YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCVY2ea-7ws

Hi Ben,

There are tons of Son of God in the Bible.

1.Jacob is God’s son and firstborn: “Israel is my son, even my firstborn” Exodus 4:22.

2.Solomon is God’s son “He shall build an house for my name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son”: 2 Samuel 7:13-14.

3.Ephraim is God’s firstborn: “for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.” Jeremiah 31:9 (who is God’s firstborn? Israel or Ephraim?).

4.Adam is the son of God “Adam, which was the son of God.” Luke 3:38.

5.Common people (you and me) are the sons of God: “Ye are the children of the LORD your God” Deuteronomy 14:1. “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God” Romans 8:14. “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:” John 1:12. “That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;” Philippians 2:15. “Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: … now are we the sons of God” 1 John 3:1-2. “When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?” Job 38:7. “Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD,” Job 2:1. “Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD,” Job 1:6. “when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men,” Genesis 6:4. “That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair” Genesis 6:2

Christian accepts Islam after challenging Zakir Naik at an Islamic Conference!

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“Jesus Christ (pbuh) never claimed that he is God” – Dr Zakir Naik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3Z-XFq8F_w

Hi Ben Hur,

Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out after instructing them: “Do not go in the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter any city of the Samaritans; 6but rather go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Jesus pbuh only sent for Jews for certain period of time only, he is the first and last for certain period of time only.

Moses pbuh only sent for Jews for certain period of time only, he is the first and last for certain period of time only.

Prophet Adam never ask our permission before eat forbidden fruits heaven. As such, we are not to bear for his sin.

Ezekiel 18:20

20″The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son’s iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself. 21″But if the wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed and observes all My statutes and practices justice and righteousness, he shall surely live; he shall not die.…

Deut. 24:16- Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their fathers; each is to die for his own sin. (From NIV Bible)

Jeremiah 31:30- Instead, everyone will die for his own sin; whoever eats sour grapes—his own teeth will be set on edge. (From NIV Bible)

Matthew 5:17-20- The Fulfillment of the Law

17″Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven. (From NIV Bible)

Ahmed Deedat-100% proof Jesus was not Crucified !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dCBnnQ4vAE

Hi Ben Hur,

Thanks for not denying that Jesus pbuh was taken down earlier and he was alive. Crucifixions required several days as for slow and painful death. As such he was not died for any body sins. Never in Bible he said he is to die for anybody sins.

Jesus (pbuh) of Nazareth – a Man Approved of God

The following statement from the Bible supports the Islamic belief that Jesus (pbuh) was a prophet of God.

“Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know.”

[The Bible, Acts 2:22]

The Mission of Jesus Christ (pbuh) – to Fulfill the Law

Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity for himself. He clearly announced the nature of his mission. Jesus (pbuh) was sent by God to confirm the previous Judaic law. This is clearly evident in the following statements attributed to Jesus (pbuh) in the Gospel of Mathew:

“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

“Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”

“For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.”

[The Bible, Mathew 5:17-20]

Jesus Refuted even the Remotest Suggestion of his Divinity

Consider the following incident mentioned in the Bible:

“And behold, one came and said unto him, ‘Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?’

And he said unto him, ‘Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.’ ”

[The Bible, Mathew 19:16-17]

Jesus (pbuh) did not say that to have the eternal life of paradise, man should believe in him as Almighty God or worship him as God, or believe that Jesus (pbuh) would die for his sins. On the contrary he said that the path to salvation was through keeping the commandments. It is indeed striking to note the difference between the words of Jesus Christ (pbuh) and the Christian dogma of salvation through the sacrifice of Jesus (pbuh).

Jay Smith got destroyed by Dr.Shabir Ally on the Trinity and the Christian Concept of the Atonement

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Hi Ben,

John is the only gospel that portrays Jesus as “Lamb of God” but Jesus never applied the title for himself. Augustine developed the titles for the Roman Catholic Church; he also developed the “original sin”. The apostles never claimed Jesus was God-incarnate, let alone God’s lamb. There was a Jewish sect called the Ebionites who accepted Jesus as the Messiah, but they never said he was God’s son.

Jesus denied sacrifice (Matt. 9:13, 12:7, Hosea 6:6) and preached the Law of Moses (Matt. 5:17-20) which contradicts Atonement (Deu. 24:16, Psalms 40:6, Micah 6:7-8). Christians believe the exact opposite of the Bible (Proverbs. 21:18).

John the Baptist is forced to call Jesus the “Lamb of God” (John 1:29), but John was a strict Essene; he never could’ve used this pagan title! Jesus is called “Lamb of God” because he took away the sins of mankind, yet the title is false because Jesus was not crucified (Psalms 20:6) so therefore he was not the Lamb of God.

All human beings are servants of God (1 Peter 2:16), so it’s blasphemy to worship Jesus. The Gospels record Jesus saying:

‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.’ (Matthew 15:8-10)

“Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say? I will show you what he is like who comes to me and hears my words and puts them into practice. He is like a man building a house, who dug down deep and laid the foundation on rock. When a flood came, the torrent struck that house but could not shake it, because it was well built. But the one who hears my words and does not put them into practice is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. The moment the torrent struck that house, it collapsed and its destruction was complete.”. (Luke 6:47-49)

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ (Matthew 7:21-23)

The Israelites used to sacrifice a lamb on the Day of Atonement, but Jesus was not a lamb. Jesus wasn’t even crucified! The Old Testament teaches that human sacrifice is wrong.

And after they have been destroyed before you, be careful not to be ensnared by inquiring about their gods, saying, “How do these nations serve their gods? We will do the same.” You must not worship the LORD your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the LORD hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods. (Deuteronomy 12:30-31)

Human sacrifice is a pagan ritual which dates back thousands of years. Jesus could not have been a ‘human sacrifice’ because the practice was not Jewish, but pagan. The Jews believed they’d crucified Jesus to prove he was false (Deu. 13:5, 21:23), yet God saved Jesus from the cross (Psalms 20:6).

Blood sacrifice is the oldest and most universal act of piety. The offering of animals, including the human animal, dates back at least twenty thousand years, and, depending on how you read the scanty archaeological evidence, arguably back to the earliest appearance of humanity. Many religions recount the creation of man through the bloody sacrifice of a God-man–a divinity who is torn apart to sow the seeds of humanity. (Patrick Tierney, The Highest Altar: The Story of Human Sacrifice, Acharya’s Suns of God)

“The worship of suffering gods was to be found on all sides, and the belief in the torture of the victims in the rites of human sacrifice for the redemption from sin was very general. The gods Osiris, Attis, Adonis, Dionysos, Herakles, Prometheus, and others, had all suffered for mankind; and thus the Servant of Yahweh was also conceived as having to be wounded for’ men’s transgressions. But as I say, this conception had passed into the background in the days of Jesus” (The Paganism in Our Christiantiy, Arthur Weigall, 1928, p106)

Jesus was teaching his disciples in the outer court of the Temple and one of them said unto him: Master, it is said by the priests that without shedding of blood there is no remission. Can then the blood offering of the law take away sin? And Jesus answered: No blood offering, of beast or bird, or man, can take away sin, for how can the conscience be purged from sin by the shedding of innocent blood? Nay, it will increase the condemnation. (Gospel of the Nazorenes, online Source)

God hates human sacrifice:

The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin. (Deuteronomy 24:16)

The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. (Ezekiel 18:20)

To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats. (Isaiah 1:11)

Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams, or with ten thousands of rivers of oil? shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? (Micah 6:7-8)

Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required. (Psalms 40:6)

To do justice and judgment [is] more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice. (Proverbs 21:3)

But go ye and learn what [that] meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. (Matthew 9:13)

God can easily forgive sins, we don’t need human sacrifices:

“I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more. (Isaiah 43:25)

The LORD is compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, abounding in love. (Psalms 103:8)

And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, “The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness (Exodus 34:6)

It’s pretty clear that Christianity contradicts the Bible, and the Bible refutes Christianity.

Jesus said that he had come to uphold the law and not to destroy it one jot or one tithe. Jesus was educated in the synagogue in Jerusalem from the age of twelve. He preached in the synagogue. He used to keep the synagogue clean. No Christian today can be found performing these actions. How many Christians have been even been circumcised in the manner that Jesus was? The services now held in today’s churches were developed long after Jesus had disappeared. Many of them come directly from the pagan Graeco-Roman mythological rites. The prayers they use are not the prayers which Jesus made. The hymns they sing are not the praises which Jesus sung. Due to the innovations of Paul and his followers, there is no revealed teaching left as to what to eat and what not to eat. Anyone given a “Christian education” today eats what he feels like. Yet Jesus and his true followers only ate kosher meat and were forbidden to eat pig’s flesh”. (Jesus, Prophet of Islam, 1992 edition, p. 199-200)

“…Christianity was not built on the Bible. Christianity began long before the Bible was written and developed independently of the Bible. Some of Christianity’s central doctrines are contrary to the Bible; herein lies the problem. (Shabir Ally, [1]

If Jesus died for the “sins of the world” as the lamb, why did the apostles continue to sacrifice lambs?

“…Also, note that some scholars such as Thomas McElwain consider the belief that Jesus has already paid the whole price for sin as a later belief, one unknown to any of the disciples of the first century. They argue that “the followers of Jesus Christ went on participating in the sacrificial system of the temple in Jerusalem until its destruction in AD 70” and “the apostolic church, for more than a generation after the ascension of Jesus, still offered the Old Testament sacrifices.” [1]

The early Christians doubted Jesus was crucified, that’s why they continued to sacrifice lambs!

Jesus is recorded to have said:

No blood offering, of beast or bird, or man, can take away sin, for how can the conscience be purged from sin by the shedding of innocent blood? Nay, it will increase the condemnation. (Gospel of the Nazarenes, online Source)

There are multiple accounts of Jesus’ crucifixion:

“The Christians have dozens of different versions, rather than one universally agreed view, regarding the crucifixion of the Messiah. This in itself is an eloquent testimony that the Christians were doubtful about the actual event. Some of them held the view that the one who was crucified was someone other than Jesus and that Jesus himself in fact remained standing somewhere nearby, laughing at their folly… Had the truth been fully known and well-established so many divergent views could not have gained currency”. (Towards Understanding the Quran, Vol 2, Sayyid Abul Ala Mawdudi, p. 108)

We have to believe God saved Jesus from crucifixion:

Now I know that the LORD saves his anointed; he answers him from his holy heaven with the saving power of his right hand. (Psalms 20:6)

“Do not touch my anointed ones; do my prophets no harm.” (1Chronicles 16:22)

LORD God, do not reject your anointed one. Remember the great love promised to David your servant. (2Chronicles 6:42)

Great deliverance giveth he to his king; and sheweth mercy to his anointed, to David, and to his seed for evermore. (Psalms 18:5)

The LORD [is] their strength, and he [is] the saving strength of his anointed.(Psalms 28:8)

Behold, O God our shield, and look upon the face of thine anointed.(Psalms 84:9)

Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; (Hebrews 5:7)

The Greek word ‘Christ’ means the ‘anointed’. Jesus was anointed, so therefore he was saved from crucifixion.

Matthew 26:28 Contradiction

Matthew 26:20-29, Mark 14:17-28, John 13:21-30 Jesus forecasts his betrayal prior to the communion portion of the supper.

Luke 22:14-23 After the communion portion.

It appears that Christ discussed it throughout the meal. In Luke 22:15 we see that He discusses his suffering first thing before the meal, during the cup before the meal (vs 17-18), during the bread (vs 19) and again during the cup after the supper (vs 20-22). The sop (John 13:26) was not communion in any sense, but merely a custom of the day that occurred after the meal was finished (John 13:2). Matthew and Mark record the interchange between Judas and Jesus DURING the meal. Some have marveled that the other disciples did not pick up on Christ’s statement and seemed oblivious later (John 13:22 and Luke 22:23). This bears tribute to how effective a hypocrite Judas was. Additionally, we note that there was a undercurrent conversation taking place in which the disciples were arguing over who was the greatest (Luke 22:24).

Matthew 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-25 The order of the communion was: bread, then wine.

Luke 22:17-20 It was: wine, then bread.

It was the cup (Luke 22:17), then bread (vs 19), and then the after-supper cup (vs 20).

Catholics believe that we have to be “cleansed of sin” (must do confession) before we eat the Eucharist, BUT when Jesus broke the bread during the last supper did he not give it to Judas? If you are dirty and you want to go for a shower, do you first clean yourself then go for a shower? Matthew 26:28 – This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the “forgiveness of sins”. Which I would interpret it as he died for us for the forgiveness of sin, therefore drinking the wine and eating the bread (Eucharist would be FOR the FORGIVENESS of sin wouldn’t it?)

Here’s a thought: Did you learn Christianity from a true Christian or did you simply follow blindly? Matthew 7:24-27 “The Wise and Foolish Builders”

You might have been a dedicated Christian but where did you build your house on? A Rock (I was taught that rock represented a good understanding of God’s words, or simply revelation of God) or on Sand?

Please read this or if you remember it and ask yourself the following question.

Matthew 16:17-20 “Peter’s Confession of Christ”

The name Peter in Greek means rock but why was the latter translated as rock instead of peter? Was it to say that “on peter I will build my church?” or was it “on this revelation that I will build my church?”

Isaiah 53 confirms that Jesus never got crucified!

Lies upon Lies! Isaiah 53:8, below, its Hebrew says that Jesus will be thrown in jail. The ample liars of the English translations currently translate it as “he will …

Islam declares that the Lord Jesus the Messiah (Al-Sayyed Isa Al-Maseeh in Arabic) was neither crucified nor killed. The points below are to further demonstrate that even the Bible’s accounts do not agree that Jesus Christ died.

Then, I’d prove to them that the crucifixion never happened, and Jesus never died on the cross even according to the Bible Itself, even according to Isaiah 53 itself. Also, see how Psalm 91 (satan and Jesus had a detailed conversation about this one in the NT), and Psalm 116, 117 and 118 also declare that Christ will never get crucified.

Isaiah 53:10 and Psalm 91:16 declare that Jesus’ life will be EXTENDED! [1] [2]

Jesus Christ, never got crucified, nor was he ever killed. The Noble Quran declares this. Also, many passages with ample evidence from the Bible’s Old and New Testaments, and also many more outside the Bible, clearly prove that:

Jesus never died.

He rested for 3 days in the cave, which was his so-called “tomb”, which was above the ground and was not a grave, nor a coffin. It was an open cave, and he rested on the floor in it. He was healed and massaged with medicine. And ultimately, he un-wound his winding sheets, and exited the cave in his original physical body alive. This is how he “ROSE” from the so-called “dead”. He never actually died. He’s always been physically alive and receiving massaging, and medical treatment, during those three days, according to the New Testament’s accounts itself. The problem with the Bible is that it LOOSELY uses words and terms such as God, Son, Rise from the Dead, Death, etc… The following debate explains all of this in great details from the Bible, and proves that Jesus never died:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI5MiRlE0Tw

Yusuf Estes – Jesus in Islam

Hi Ben,

“Where
does Jesus say: ‘I am God,’ or ‘I am equal to God,’ or ‘Worship me’?” I
asked the Rev. Morris again.

He took a
deep breath and took another try. He quoted the most oft-repeated verse of the
Christian Bible – John 1:1.

“In
the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was
God.”

Please
note, these are not the words of Jesus. They are the words of John (or whoever
wrote them). Acknowledged by every erudite Christian scholar of the Bible as
being the words of another Jew, Philo of Alexandria, who had written them even
before John and Jesus were born. And Philo claimed no divine inspiration for
them. No matter what mystical meaning that Philo had woven around these words
(which our John has plagiarized), we will accept them for what they are worth.

Greek not
Hebrew

Since the
manuscripts of the 27 Books of the New Testament are in Greek, a Christian sect
has produced its own version and has even changed the name of this selection of
27 Books to Christian Greek Scriptures ! I asked the Reverend whether he
knew Greek? “Yes,” he said, He had studied Greek for 5 years before
qualification. I asked him what was the Greek word for “God” the
first time it occurs in the quotation “and the Word was With God”? He
kept staring, but didn’t answer. So I said, the word was Hotheos, which
literally means “The God”.

Since the
European (including the North American) has evolved a system of using capital
letters to start a proper noun and small letters for common nouns, we would
accept his giving a capital “G” for God; in other words Hotheos
is rendered “the god” which in turn is rendered “God”.

“Now
tell me, what is the Greek word for “God” in the second occurrence in
your quotation – “and the Word was God”? The Reverend still kept
silent. Not that he did not know Greek, or that he had lied, but he knew more
than that; the game was up. I said : “the word was Tontheos,
which means “a god”.

According
to your own system of translating you aught to have spelt this word ‘God’ a
second time with a small ‘g’ i.e. ‘god’, and not ‘God’ with a capital ‘G’; in
other words Tontheos is rendered “a god”. Both of these,
“god” or “a god” are correct.

I told
the Reverend: “But in 2 Corinthians 4:4 you have dishonestly reversed your
system by using a small ‘g’ when spelling ‘God’ “(and the devil is) the
god of this world.” The Greek word for “the god” is Hotheos
the same as in John 1:1. “Why have you not been consistent in your
translations ?” “If Paul was inspired to write hotheos the God
for the Devil, why don’t you use that capital ‘G’?”

And in
the Old Testament, the Lord said unto Moses: “See, I have made thee a
god to Pharoah” (Exodus 7:1). “Why do you use a small ‘g’ for
‘God’ when referring to Moses instead of a capital ‘G’ as you do for a mere
word ‘Word’ – “and the Word was God.”?

“Why do you do this? Why do you play fast and loose with the Word
of God?” I asked the reverend. He said, “I didn’t do it.” I
said, “I know, but I am talking about the vested interests of
Christianity, who are hell-bent to deify Christ, by using capital letters
here and small letters there, to deceive the unwary masses who think that every
letter, every comma and full stop and the capital and small letters were
dictated by God (Capital ‘G’ here!).”

Jesus’ believers did NOT believe
he was God neither

Matthew Chapter 16 : 13 – 20.

One of
the greatest Christian myths is that Jesus’ followers believed he was God.
However so, this is not true, the Bible says otherwise:

Matthew Chapter 16: 13-14

13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his
disciples, saying, Whom
do men say that I the Son of man am? 14
And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and
others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets

So as we
can see, the believers out of the population did not take Jesus as God, they
took him for a great man, such as John the Baptist, or Elias, or some others.
None of them said he is God. Now let us read on and see what his own disciples
took him for:

15-20

15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou
art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus
answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and
blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18 And I say also unto
thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the
gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give unto
thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth
shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be
loosed in heaven. 20 Then charged he
his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.

So note,
now Jesus asks his disciples about what they take him to be for, they respond
by saying he is the SON OF GOD, Jesus agrees with them and tells them tell no
man I am the Christ. So note, Jesus’ disciples do not say you are God, Jesus
himself does not say he is God.

Now both
the son of God and the term Christ do not mean God. They never have, and never
will. The term Christ means Messiah, the definition of Messiah is not God, and
the Jews who were awaiting their Messiah did not believe the Messiah would be
God:

On Hebrew
1:6 :

The word ‘begotten’ the
Christian will rarely be able to explain. Begetting is an animal act
belonging to the animal function of sex. ‘Begotten’ means
“sired”.

How dare the Church attribute such a lowly function to God?

“Death” in Isaiah 53:9 is proven to be symbolic using the Hebrew
Lexicon and several English translations, and it never meant a literal death.

Then, I’d prove to them that the crucifixion never
happened, and Jesus never died on the cross even according to the Bible Itself,
even according to Isaiah 53 itself.
Also, see how Psalm
91 (satan and Jesus had a detailed conversation
about this one in the NT), and Psalm 116, 117 and 118 also declare that Christ will
never get crucified.

Psalm 116, 117 and 118:

It is first of all important to know that the Psalms of David, while they
are narrated by him, but they do contain many prophecies about the coming of
Jesus Christ or the Messiah. The New Testament had made many references
to many of the Psalms verses and linked them to Jesus Christ. Also, we’ve
already seen how Psalm
91 clearly and indisputably prophesied about Christ will never get crucified,
and we’ve seen how the New Testament referenced this Psalm. It is very
important that you pay close attention to Psalm 91:3, 8, 10, 11, 12 and 15
below. These verses speak about:

GOD
Almighty will hear his cries (Psalm 91:15)
and will save him (Psalm 91:3).

GOD
Almighty will cover him with His Protection (Psalm
91:4).

Christ
will then not have any fear in him (Psalm 91:5).

Christ
will then observe with his own eyes the punishment of the crucified ones (Psalm 91:8).

No
harm (this includes crucifixion!) or
disaster will even come near Christ (Psalm
91:10….this even contradicts him getting beaten up before crucifixion).

GOD
Almighty will send down the Angels to
protect him and lift him (Psalm 91:11-12,
14, Isaiah 52:13). Not
even his foot will strike the ground from his enemies pushing,
grappling and punishment.

Christ’s call will be HEARD, and he will
be delivered and honored (Psalm
91:15, Isaiah 52:13). No way would these verses be valid
if Christ got crucified.

His life
will be prolonged (extended) and he will live to even see his offspring (Isaiah 53:10 and Psalm 91:16, which by the way
contradict Jesus never got married and had children. In Islam’s Noble Quran’s 13:38,
however, it is quite possible that Jesus
Christ had wives and children).

His
life will overpower death (Isaiah 53:12).

“Death” in Isaiah 53:9
is proven to be symbolic using the
Hebrew Lexicon and several English translations, and it never meant a literal death.

Hi Ben,

Jesus here was abruptly interrupted by the Jews who got fed up from him. See the next verse below. They thought that he was insulting their intelligence and their cherished faith by talking blasphemous garbage (such as Abraham rejoiced for him (John 8:56) and other things). It is clear that Jesus was most likely interrupted and wasn’t heard finishing up his sentence. Also, the context of Jesus’ words were about seeing Abraham before he was even born. This is nothing new in the Bible. In the Old Testament, we read:

“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations. (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 1:5)”

Since Jesus was created from the Word of GOD Almighty, and since also our human-spirits are also created from the Holy Spirit, and since Jesus was a Word from the Word of Allah Almighty, then it is quite possible for him to have known, or seen the records of the future human-creations that were going to be created on earth, such as Abraham and others. After all, Allah Almighty uses Angels, Spirits and other created Beings of His to create creations under His Command. Things in the spiritual realm are different. Existence in the spiritual world, including our spirits, is Eternal. Our earthly bodies are not Eternal. So, Jesus having a prior knowledge about Abraham’s spirit is nothing unusual in the spiritual world.

Abraham here was used by Jesus because the Jews used him as their highest and greatest Prophet against Jesus. So it wasn’t Jesus who brought up Abraham. It was the Jews. Otherwise, Jesus would not have mentioned Abraham or any earthly creation. See verse 33 above.

Also, Jesus is the foretold Messiah, the anointed/selected final and greatest Prophet for the Jews, who will come and establish peace on earth and rule the earth in the end. The Old Testament makes it clear that the Messiah will inherit and rule the earth [1] [2]. See the sub-section below for more details.

However, we must always never forget that the text of the Bible is neither genuine nor original. The Bible’s books and gospels, according to its own translators and theologians [2] [3], were

Written by mysterious men.

Written by an unknown number of men.

Written in unknown places.

Written in unknown dates.

Furthermore, if Jesus declared to be the Yahweh Almighty (I am What I am) in Exodus 3, then he would not have hid himself and slipped away! Use your heads, O Christians, and think about this:

1- Examine what Yahweh Almighty did when He Declared Himself to be “I am What I am”. What did He do? He Revealed His Majesty, Glory and Power! I could only imagine Moses could hardly stand on his feet from the overwhelming fear that he experienced!

2- Jesus, when he supposedly declared The Ultimate and Final Statement about himself being the “I am”, what did he do? He hid himself and ran away from the beating. This is what he did after he willingly decided to declare his Ultimate and Final Statement about his being and supposed deity. Do you still fail to see the overwhelming inconsistency here?

3- Jesus’ supposed statement, “I am”, was documented on paper in Greek. Yahweh Almighty’s Statement in Exodus 3 was in Hebrew. The two languages are not only far too different from each others, but the two statements are also not the same.

“I am” is not the same as “I am What I am”.

Ample more indisputable proofs and points on this are presented below. Also, the Greek main-section below has tons of indisputable proofs as well.

59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.

There are few important notes to mention here:

1- In verse 29, Jesus says that he only does what pleases GOD Almighty.

2- In verses 33, 39, 53 and 57, the Jews declare that they are the descendants of Abraham.

3- In verse 37, Jesus confirms that they are Abraham’s descendants.

4- In verse 57, the Jews say that Jesus never saw Abraham.

5- (Ample proofs from the Greek language, below, are provided for this one) In verse 58, Jesus DID NOT SAY “I AM”. He rather said, “I HAVE (seen Abraham before he was even born)”. The following analysis give further proofs for this:

The context of Jesus’ statement is clearly about whether or not he saw Abraham.

When GOD Almighty revealed Himself to Moses in Exodus 3, and told him “I am what I am”, He, the Almighty, revealed with it His Majesty and Glory. Jesus, when said “I have”, he ran from the rocks that were hurled at him from the angry crowd.

GOD Almighty in Exodus 3 Spoke to Moses in Hebrew, while Jesus in John 8:58, spoke it in Aramaic, and the original Aramaic is lost. All what he have today is a Greek translation for the original.

The “I AM” in John 8:58 is a desperate mistranslation, because even if we take it to be right, it still doesn’t say “I am what I am”.

If Jesus truly wanted to say “I AM” in reference to Exodus 3, then he should’ve said before Adam or humanity I AM WHAT I AM; not Abraham.

6- It is also highly probable that Jesus was interrupted by the Jews picking up rocks and hurling them at him, hence, he was only recorded to have said “I HAVE” because he wasn’t able to finish his sentence.

This point, while it may sound very lame and weak, but in reality is quite possible and sound!

Who is the Alpha and Omega?

It is not clear whether Jesus was called the Alpha and Omega. A Christian research found that there are deliberate mistranslations put [2]. But my answer below assumes that Jesus was called the Alpha and Omega. Even with this worst case scenario, we clearly see that Jesus is still NOT the Creator of the Universe!

So having said that, let’s see now Jesus as the Alpha and Omega:

Jesus is the Alpha and Omega (beginning and end) of the entire Jewish Covenant and Law, and is focused on the 12 tribes of Israel. See Revelations 1:8, 21:6, and 22:12.

In Revelation 22, we read:

Revelation 22 (NIV)

Eden Restored

1 Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations.

12 Thrones for the Disciples:

Jesus also promised his disciples 12 thrones in Heaven to judge the 12 tribes of Israel:

Will Judas or Matthias sit at the Throne? Is Gambling allowed in Christianity? Why were the disciples disputing on the 12th disciple if the Holy Spirit was the One who chose him?

Matthew 19

28 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. [1] [2]

Jesus’ Mansion:

This also perfectly fits Jesus’ statement about the Mansion that Jesus will setup for his followers from among Heaven’s “many Mansions” (John 14:1-4) as the Bible says.

Jesus Christ said that Heaven has many Mansions, and that his Mansion is for him and his followers.

Scripture – Not red letter words from Jesus, but John’s words in John 1:1-3 (NIV).

In Matthew 24:36, Jesus Christ denied having any knowledge of when Judgment Day will come. He said: I don’t know; only GOD Alone Knows!

1- Prophet Jesus (Isa), peace be upon him, like Adam, peace be upon him, was created from the Word of GOD Almighty.

2- Jesus was not the entire Word of GOD Almighty. He rather was a Word from the Word; meaning that he was created from the Word of GOD Almighty.

GOD Almighty is Greater than Jesus.

No one is “Good”, including Jesus. Only GOD Almighty is Good.

Jesus said he doesn’t know when the Hour will come. Only GOD Almighty Knows.

Jesus said that OUR God is One GOD.

Jesus also said “My GOD and your GOD”.

Jesus bowed his face down to the ground to GOD Almighty.

Jesus was tempted by satan for 40 days and 40 nights, while GOD Almighty “can not be tempted!”.

Jesus is only the heir of GOD Almighty on planet earth; not on the entire Universe.

And on and on and on from quotes of Jesus that prove that he is only a Creation and a Servant of GOD Almighty.

Christ will then observe with his own eyes the punishment of the crucified ones (Psalm 91:8).

No harm (this includes crucifixion!) or disaster will even come near Christ (Psalm 91:10….this even contradicts him getting beaten up before crucifixion).

GOD Almighty will send down the Angels to protect him and lift him (Psalm 91:11-12, 14, Isaiah 52:13). Not even his foot will strike the ground from his enemies pushing, grappling and punishment.

Christ’s call will be HEARD, and he will be delivered and honored (Psalm 91:15, Isaiah 52:13). No way would these verses be valid if Christ got crucified.

His life will be prolonged (extended) and he will live to even see his offspring (Isaiah 53:10 and Psalm 91:16, which by the way contradict Jesus never got married and had children. In Islam’s Noble Quran’s 13:38, however, it is quite possible that Jesus Christ had wives and children).

His life will overpower death (Isaiah 53:12).

“Death” in Isaiah 53:9 is proven to be symbolic using the Hebrew Lexicon and several English translations, and it never meant a literal death.

The word ‘begotten’ has been thrown out of the Bible:

The word ‘begotten’ mentioned in the Gospel of John, Chap 3 vs. 16 has been thrown out from the Revised Standard Version of the Bible as an interpolation, as a fabrication. The Revised Standard Version has been revised by 32 Christian Scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 different co-operating denominations and these Scholars have removed this blasphemous word without any ceremony as an interpolation, concoction, fabrication, and adulteration. Yet the majority of Christians are unaware of this important fact because they do not read their own Bibles. The priests in their sermons continue to use this blasphemous verse and indoctrinate the masses with false teachings. So if you are still using this blasphemous word, please stop using it because it does NOT exist in the original manuscripts of the Bible and has been thrown out of the Bible.

Hi Ben,

John 10:30, I and My Father are One?

Often when debates come up with Christians on the divinity of Christ, the passage from chapter ten in the book of John comes up; this passage is verse 30, which basically reads:

30 I and my Father are one

Now I don’t understand why many Christians would quote this verse, specifically Trinitarians, because what does this verse prove? Trinitarians do not believe Jesus is the Father, so why do they quote it? Are they quoting it to try and show that Jesus is equal to the Father? Well that isn’t true, since the Gospel of John shows the opposite, in fact if we quote one verse back we read:

29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.

This is verse 29, it comes right before verse 30, and in verse 29 Jesus says the Father is greater than ALL, this obviously includes Jesus since he is not the Father. So therefore how to Christians try and assume that this verse shows equality between Jesus and the Father is beyond me, just a verse before it Jesus says the Father is greater than everyone!

In fact this is not the first time that Jesus says the Father is greater than him, he does it again later:

28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I (John 14:28)

So here we once again have Jesus claiming the Father is greater than him, so how is Jesus equal to the Father when Jesus says the contrary? Now Christians have come up with a way of trying to explain this verse off, they say that Jesus was talking as a man here, that as a man the Father is greater than him, they try and say that the Father meant he is greater than Jesus in rank and authority and not in essence.

However so what did Jesus mean in John 10 when Jesus said the Father is greater than ALL? Jesus placed himself in the category of ALL people, so therefore the Christian response will not work for John 10:29. It must be said though that the Christian response does not work for John chapter 14:28 neither, because the Christian argues from silence and is arguing something they have yet to prove. Christians cannot prove that Jesus has 2 natures, they can never get a single quote from the lips of Jesus saying I am man and Divine, that I have 2 natures and I gave one up and took on the man nature, this is non-existent, so therefore the response is from silence provided with no proof or a solid basis.

1-The fact is the Bible shows that the Father is greater than Jesus in essence, the Father is all-knowing and Jesus is not.

2-The Father gives Jesus everything from miracle to doctrine.

3-Jesus begs the Father to save him, obviously showing that life and death is controlled by the Father and NOT Jesus.

For all these arguments the Christian will say as man Jesus is not all-knowing, as man Jesus receives things from the Father, however so I will kindly ask the Christian bring this proof from the words of Jesus, they shall never be able to do it, this doctrine is an invention and not something to be found from Jesus.

So therefore in conclusion, John 10:30 proves nothing in support of the divinity of Jesus, it does not show equality, since Jesus made it clear that the Father is greater than him, so therefore Jesus is not equal with the Father.

Actually, correction, in the Biblical culture being called the Son of God does not make you equal with God since others were called sons of God and children of God in the Biblical times.

Secondly, Jesus calling God his Father, or own Father does not mean much. What Matt Slick and every other Christian forgets to mention is that Jesus called God the Father of his people to, so when Jesus reffered to God as my Father he was doing this when he was adressing himself, it is common self if you are adressing yourself you will say my Father, or my house etc. When Jesus adressed other people he calls God their Father:

Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Mat 6:1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

Mat 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Mat 6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

Mat 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

Mat 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

Mar 11:25 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.

Mar 11:26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.

Luk 6:36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.

So as you can see, when Jesus adressed other people he would call God their Father as well. So hence if one of those people were alone, they could adress God as their Father and say MY Father in Heaven. Would that mean that the people are equal with God? Certainly not!

Jesus also said: “These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: ‘Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.’ (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 10:5-6)”

These are the words of Jesus in the Bible. It is quite obvious that Jesus was NOT sent to Mankind and Christianity isn’t a religion for Mankind. Even if Jesus did die on the cross for people’s sins, he didn’t do it for all nations’ sins, but for the Jews alone who believed in him.

And when Jesus told his disciples to go “to all nations” and teach them the words and baptize them in the name of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit (Mathew 28:18-20), it is obvious that “all nations” is a mistranslation, because in the Middle East, the words for “People” and “Nation” are the same word.

Very Important Note: It is important to know also that nations as we know them today in countries were very few back 2000 years ago. People for the most part were divided into either “tribes” or “empires”; like the Persian and Roman Empires for instance, which both spread in land as far as what we call today North Africa, Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Turkey, Iran, Pakistan and India. Nations as we know them today existed in few places only. Arabs for instance weren’t called “The Arab Nation”, because they were divided into 365 pagan tribes, each tribe worshiping their idol god(s) which were different than the others.

So if Jesus told his disciples to go to “all people”, then this simply means to all of the people of Israel, because he “was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel”, and NOT to anyone else, because THERE WERE ALMOST NO NATIONS AROUND HIM AND VERY FEW NATIONS WORLD-WIDE! We are clearly left with a crystal clear contradiction between the Christian Missionaries of today and what Jesus said.

And as we clearly see from the introduction above, the Bible was very badly corrupted by the Jews. GOD said they corrupted the Bible so bad that they turned it into a “lie!”.

As for Jesus saying I AM, this does not prove he is God.

So Jesus said to them, ‘When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I AM, and that I do nothing on my own authority, but speak just as the Father taught me.’” John 8:28

Those words basically prove that without a doubt Jesus is not God. Why would Jesus make such a statement after making a claim that he is God? You believe Jesus saying I AM makes him God, if so then why would he say such a statement right after saying I AM? The fact is Jesus said those words to show he is a prophet and that he is not God and the fact that he says I AM means nothing special it is just the desire of Christians to make it seem as if Jesus is claiming to be God when he is claiming something totally opposite.

Matthew 2:26 takes Micah 5:2 out of context.

Matthew 2:6 ” ‘But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, are by no means least among the rulers of Judah; for out of you will come a ruler who will be the shepherd of my people Israel.

Micah 5:2 “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans [a] of Judah out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel,

whose origins [b] are from of old, from ancient times. [c] ”

Matthew 2:6 says that Bethlehem is not least among the rulers of Judah while Micah 5:2 says otherwise.

To further disprove that it is not Jesus which Matthew 2:6 thinks Micah 5:2 is talking about, look at verses 5-6.

5 And he will be their peace.

Deliverance and Destruction

When the Assyrian invades our land and marches through our fortress we will raise against him seven shepherd even eight leaders of men.

6 They will rule [d] the land of Assyria with the sword, the land of Nimrod with drawn sword. He will deliver us from the Assyrian when he invades our land and marches into our borders.

When did Jesus do all this? Clearly, Matthew took Micah 5:2 out of context.

Christian theologians argue that the name “A wonderful counselor is the mighty God, the everlasting Father, the ruler of peace” refers to Jesus, who they allege combined human and divine qualities. They mistakenly believe that such a name can only be applied to God Himself. Moreover, the Christians incorrectly translate the verbs in verse 5 in the future tense, instead of the past, as the Hebrew original reads. Thus, the Christians render verse 5 as: “For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; and the government will rest on his shoulders; and his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.”

While admitting that “wonderful counselor” and “ruler of peace” can be applied to a man, Christian theologians argue that the phrases “mighty God” and “everlasting Father” cannot be incorporated as part of a man’s name. Thus, they contend that Isaiah teaches that the Messiah has to be not only a man, but God as well. That this entire reasoning is incorrect may be seen from the name Elihu, “My God is He,” which refers to an ordinary human being (Job 32:1, 1 Samuel 1:l, 1 Chronicles 12:21, 26:7, 27:18). A similar Christian misunderstanding of Scripture may be seen in their claims revolving around the name Immanuel, “God is with us.” The simple fact is that it is quite common in the Bible for human beings to be given names that have the purpose of declaring or reflecting a particular attribute of God, e.g., Eliab, Eliada, Elzaphan, Eliakim, Elisha, Eleazar, Tavel, Gedaliah.

The fact remains that Jesus did not literally or figuratively fulfill any of Isaiah’s words. A wonderful counselor does not advise his followers that if they have faith they can be agents of destruction (Matthew 21:19-21; Mark 11:14, 20-23). A mighty God does not take orders from anyone (Luke2:51, Hebrews 5:8), for no one is greater than he is (Matthew 12:31-32; John 5:30, 14:28). Moreover, he does not ask or need to be saved by anyone (Matthew 26:39, Luke 22:42), for he cannot die by any means (Matthew 27:50, Mark 15:37, Luke 23:46, John 19:30). He who is called the Son of God the Father (John 1:18, 3:16) cannot himself be called everlasting Father. One cannot play simultaneously the role of the son and the Father; it is an obvious self-contradiction. He who advocates family strife (Matthew 10:34-35, Luke 12:49-53) and killing enemies (Luke 19:27) cannot be called a ruler of peace.

I pray to the Almighty God all the time that you will follow the Greatest Commandment : Worship only one Almighty God without any partners.

Mark 12:29

29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.[a] 30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[b] 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[c] There is no commandment greater than these.”

Deuteronomy 6:4

4″Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one! 5″You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.…

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Hi Ben,

Jesus Christ is not God Almighty ! Proofs from Bible

IT IS A COMMON BELIEF THAT MOST CHRISTIANS BELIEVE THAT JESUS (PBUH) IS GOD AND THAT GOD CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN TO BECOME A MAN.

Throughout the NT of the Bible, Jesus (pbuh) referred to himself as “son of man” (human being). He never possessed the knowledge, nor any Divine ability that of GOD. Jesus (pbuh) was never self-sufficient or all-knowledgeable and most importantly he prayed to GOD, so this is enough to say that he wasn’t God nor did God come down to earth to be Jesus. The one thing Most Christians don’t understand about God is that His Divine Nature, Knowledge, Abilities, and Attributes are far more superior to the nature of His Creation. Many Christians will proudly say that GOD can become whatever He wants just to justify their way of thinking, but this ideology contradicts His Nature and Self proclaimed statement in Numbers 23:19 about how He is not a man, nor the “son of man”! If GOD Himself says He is not the “son of man” while Jesus (pbuh) clearly claims to be the “son of man”, then this proves beyond a resonable doubt that they’re not the same diety so who gives anyone the authority or right to change GOD’s Nature? GOD cannot be the opposite of what He is!I sincerely hope with this proof Christians will apply this understanding with an open mind and heart that at no time GOD ever became a powerless man on earth and forfeited His Divne Nature for 33 years while no diety governed the World…it’s that simple!

JESUS IS NOT ALL-KNOWING LIKE GOD, SO HE’S NOT GOD!

“But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son (Servant), but the Father (God).” [Mark 13:32]

JESUS (PBUH) IS NOT EQUAL TO GOD, SO HE’S NOT GOD!

Jesus (pbuh) said, “I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.” [John 5:30]

Another translation of the same verse:

Jesus (pbuh) said, “By myself I can do NOTHING; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.” [John 5:30]

Jesus (pbuh) said, “The Father is greater than I.” [John 14:28]

Jesus (pbuh) said, “The father is greater than all.” [John 10:29]

“Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.” [John 7:16]

“Truly, truly, I say to you, a slave is not greater (meizon) than his master, nor is one who is sent greater (meizon) than the one who sent him.” [John 13:16]

GOD CANNOT BE SEEN WITH THE NAKED EYE. NO ONE HAS SEEN GOD, SO JESUS IS NOT GOD!

Jesus (pbuh) said; “No one has seen God at any time.” [John 1:18]

Jesus (pbuh) said; “Not that any man hath seen the Father.” [John 6:46]

“No vision can grasp Him, but He grasps all vision. He is Al-Latîf (the Most Subtle and Courteous), Well-Acquainted with all things.” [Qur’an 6:103]

“GOD continued, “But you may not see my face. No one can see me and live.” [Exodus 33:20]

“The invisible God.” [Colossians 1:15]

“Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.” [1 Timothy 1:17]

Whom no man hath seen nor can see.” [1 Timothy 6:16]

JESUS (PBUH) IS A SERVANT OF GOD, SO HE’S NOT GOD!

Jesus (pbuh) said; “Just as the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve.” [Matthew 20:28]

“Behold my servant (Jesus), whom I have chosen.” [Matthew 12:18]

“The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, hath glorified his servant Jesus.” [Acts 3:13 RSV]

“For of a truth against thy holy servant Jesus, whom thou hast anointed.” [Acts 4:27 RSV]

JESUS (PBUH) PRAYED TO GOD, DOES GOD PRAY TO HIMSELF?

• Jesus prayed for guidance in places of quiet solitude – “Very early in the morning, while it was still dark, Jesus got up, left the house and went off to a solitary place, where he prayed.” [Mark 1:35]

“But Jesus often withdrew to lonely places and prayed.” [Luke 5:16]

• Jesus prayed for His disciples and for all believers -“Holy Father (GOD), protect them by the power of your name-the name you have shown me-so that they may be one as we are one” [John 17:11].

• Jesus prayed in praise to God, the Father – “At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, ‘I praise you, Father, lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.’” [Luke 10:21]

• Jesus prayed in a posture and with an attitude of reverent submission – “Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, ‘My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will’” [Matthew 26:39]

• Jesus prayed in times of anguish – “And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground.” [Luke 22:44]

JESUS (PBUH) HAS A GOD, SO HE’S NOT GOD!

“Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.” [John 20:17]

“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ…” [1 Peter 1:3]

“At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, ‘I praise you, Father, lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.’” [Luke 10:21]

Jesus (pbuh) said, “And this is life eternal, that they might know You the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.” [John 17:3]

“Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.” [John 7:16]

GOD IS NOT A MAN NOR SON OF MAN (HUMAN BEING), SO JESUS (PBUH) IS NOT GOD!

“God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?” [Numbers 23:19]

“Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen: I will take vengeance, and I will not meet [thee as] a man.” [Isaiah 47:3]

Jesus (pbuh) is The “Son of Man” (a Human Being). There is not one Bible verse, Old or New Testament, that states that God Almighty, the Most High, is a man, ever desired to be a man, or intended to become a man ! In fact, he said the exact opposite. “God is not a man”. Jesus is called “son of man” 84 times in the Gospels. God called Ezekiel “son of man” 90 times in the book of Ezekiel. Whatever Ezekiel was, as to manhood, Jesus was also.

“Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know.” [Acts 2:22]

“Say (O Muhammad) He is Allah the One God, the Everlasting Refuge, who has not begotten, nor has been begotten, and equal to Him is not anyone.” [Qur’an 112]

JESUS (PBUH) IS NOTHING MORE THAN A PROPHET AND THE MESSIAH ACCORDING TO BOTH THE BIBLE AND THE QUR’AN, SO HE’S NOT GOD!

“The woman said to Him (Jesus), “Sir, I perceive that You are a prophet.” [John 4:19]

“So they said to the blind man again, “What do you say about Him, since He opened your eyes?” And he said, “He is a prophet.” [John 9:17]

“And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee.” [Matthew 21:11]

“Then fear came upon all, and they glorified God, saying, “A great prophet has risen up among us”; and, “God has visited His people.” [Luke 7:16]

The mission of Jesus was confined to the Israelites alone. It is unfair to think that his teachings are for all mankind or that they are practicable in this age. Jesus expressly stated:

“I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel”. (Matthew 15:24)

It may be said that he asked his disciples to teach all nations:

“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost”. (Matthew 28:19)

The repeated injunctions of Jesus, however, manifestly oppose this view. In the light of such unequivocal teachings of Jesus as in Matthew 15:24, one may safely assert that the words “teach all nations” are either mistranslated or misinterpreted. They might perhaps mean that the disciples of Jesus should go to all the tribes of Israelites. The word “nation” may readily be taken as an equivalent of “tribe” in view of the testimony which the Bible itself provides.

For exalllple, the following verses show that the mission of the disciples of Jesus was restricted to the tribes of Israelites:

“Verily I say unto you, that ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit on the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel”. (Matthew 19:28)

Jesus emphatically said, while clarifying his mission to the Israelites:

“It is not meet to take the children’s bread and cast it to dogs”. (Matthew 15:26)

At another place Jesus instructed his disciples to avoid the Gentiles:

“These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, ‘Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel’ “. (Matthew 10:5-6)

The apostles by their actions, showed that the message of Jesus was meant for and confined to the Jews only.

“Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen, travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only”. (Acts 11:19)

The apostles were disturbed and annoyed when they learned that Peter, on one occasion, had preached to non-Israelites. “And when Peter was come to Jerusalem, they that were of the circumcision contended with him, saying, Thou wentest into men uncircumcised, and didst eat with them”. (Acts 11:2-3)

Thus, the express injunctions of Jesus make it obvious that he was concerned only with Israelites.

The word ‘begotten’ has been thrown out of the Bible:

The word ‘begotten’ mentioned in the Gospel of John, Chap 3 vs. 16 has been thrown out from the Revised Standard Version of the Bible as an interpolation, as a fabrication. The Revised Standard Version has been revised by 32 Christian Scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 different co-operating denominations and these Scholars have removed this blasphemous word without any ceremony as an interpolation, concoction, fabrication, and adulteration. Yet the majority of Christians are unaware of this important fact because they do not read their own Bibles. The priests in their sermons continue to use this blasphemous verse and indoctrinate the masses with false teachings. So if you are still using this blasphemous word, please stop using it because it does NOT exist in the original manuscripts of the Bible and has been thrown out of the Bible.

What about John 3:16 – “For God loved the world that he gave his one and only son….”:

Let us look at the following verses:

“that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life. “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. (From the NIV Bible, John 3:15-17)”

First of all, it is important to know that John 3:15-17 is not a quote from Jesus himself in the Bible. It is a quote that exist in the so-called “Gospel of John”, but the Gospel itself according to the theologians and historians of the NIV Bible had been tampered with and altered by men, along with most of the Bible’s books and gospels.

The interpretation of John 3:16 can mean that if one doesn’t believe in Jesus as the “son of God”, and that he died on the cross for our sins, then the person will not have an Eternal Life in Paradise. The problem with this, however, is that

“Son of God” in Hebrew literally means “Servant of God”

I have provided all of the proofs from the Hebrew language that clearly prove this. Also, others in the Old Testament were called “son of God”, in reference to “servant of God”. So Jesus being “Son of God” doesn’t mean that he is GOD Almighty Himself or part of Him.

Also, there are verses in the New Testament that state that GOD Almighty listened to Jesus’ cries and saved him from crucifixion. Please visit:

Hebrews 5:7-8 confirm Islam’s claim about Jesus never got crucified and contradicts the Bible!

The “God” title in Isaiah 9:6 that was given to Jesus in Hebrew, was actually given to others as well before and after him in the Bible.

Another problem with this is that it clearly contradicts Jesus own words/quotes as I clearly showed above. What Jesus said in the Bible does not go along with what’s written in the Bible by others that seem to support the trinity lie. This should clearly prove that the Bible had been corrupted and altered by men as the theologians and historians of the NIV Bible itself also agree with.

For some reason your post has disappeared or I can’t find it. I think there were two main points you made. Jesus can’t be God because he changed and the sacrifice of Christ is not consistent with the Old Testament (God did something new).

Jesus is both fully man and fully God: Colossians 2:9 states: “For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.” In this sense the God part of Jesus has not changed. The Old testament says quite a few times that men have seen God face to face (e.g. Moses) in apparent contradiction to the verse that states no man has seen God at any time. The only way to reconcile this is to understand that it was Almighty God Jesus that these men saw.

I have already explained that Christ is the fulfillment of the sacrificial system seen in the Old Testament. In contrast to this Islam has no way of reconciling Gods system of sacrifice with it own theology. A question you should be asking: Why have animal sacrifices stopped? and why did they need to be repeated in the first place?

It’s quite difficult to invent history. If Jesus had not died on the cross then people would never have accepted the gospels because there would have been no eyewitnesses to confirm the account. On the contrary, there were many eye witnesses who would have supported the truth of the crucifixion and passed this knowledge to others. The crucifixion was done publicly for all the world to see and believe.

Wow. Naik is in really hot water here. He said: :”Where does Jesus say he died on the cross for your sins…that is the teaching of Paul.”

No In the Gospels Jesus said it too.

Get ready to become a Christian:

26:1 And it came to pass, when Jesus had finished all these sayings, he said unto his disciples,
2 Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified.

Matthew 26: 27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Dr. Naik is simply not telling the truth. There you have it for all the world to see in black and white. Get out of Islam friend, it is false and you will die in your sins.

I believe Jesus is God. Sure I don’t have ‘all the answers’ but I believe that this makes the most sense when all the information is examined. Isaiah 9:6, Isaiah 7:14, Isaiah 48:16 Isaiah 53, Micah 5:2, Psalm 22, Daniel 9:26 and others tell of a savior/God who will become a man to atone for the sins of his people. Jesus in the new testament seems to fulfill all those promises of the Old Testament. I seriously doubt Paul is a liar. He was a lot closer to the events than we are and actually risked his life in becoming a Christian. He was persecuting the Christians initially and was extremely zealous in the Jewish faith being much more accomplished that his fellows. The theology demonstrated in his letters is really no different than that of the Gospels. He too believes Jesus was crucified and died for our sins. Islam simply does not agree with the Gospels, Paul or historical fact. Jesus was crucified. He even said he must suffer, be crucified and rise again in accordance with the Old testament (e.g. Matthew 20:19, Luke 24:46). Islam does not believe the words of Jesus. The Quran itself affirms the Gospels (surah 5:47). As I stated earlier this causes Islam to self destruct because the Gospels teach the opposite of Islam, namely the atoning sacrifice of Christ through the crucifixion! Islam is a religion of fear. That’s how it controls. If you leave Islam…they kill you. This threat invalidates the faith of every Muslim because most people would ‘believe’ anything if they were going to be killed. If you speak against Islam….they kill you. Again control. They don’t want you to think or even discuss the possibility Islam is false. The new Testament calls Jesus God in Hebrews 1:8, John 1:1, John 20:28, Titus 2:13 and Colossians 2:9. The bible tells us there is only one God so Jesus can’t be another god. He must be God. He is called the First and Last in Revelation etc. Islam is a set of rules and regulation. Christianity is a relationship with God through Jesus Christ who sets you free by removing the guilt and judgement of God. Repent of your sins and ask Jesus to forgive you. The sins are breaking the ten commandments.

Hi jg

Your opinion is just that. My belief is that when you look at the bible objectively you will see that Jesus is God, who became a man who died for our sins.

You said:”So the facts are clear, Jesus is in no way similar to God”.

Hebrews 1:3a: “The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word.”

Genesis 1:26 “..Let us make man in our image..”
This verse also supports the trinity doctrine.

You said: “we hear Christians saying Jesus came down to die for our sins, which is another drastic U-turn in the way God does things”

This is not true because God always had always his sacrifices for sins. The Temple was ordained to perform sacrifice. These sacrifices have now stopped because Jesus is the permanent and final sacrifice.
Who do I believe? Jesus, John the Baptist, Apostle Paul, bible e.t.c or you and your prophet?

The transfiguration of Jesus shows his divine state was always there. He chose not to express this all the time because of his mission.

Yusef Estes has taken one verse to show Jesus is not God. (Numbers 23:19). He has put his interpretation on it but there are many more verses that support the Christian point of view e.g. Isaiah 9:6. You need to look at the whole bible in context to get the overall message.

You die if you leave Islam. This threat invalidates the faith of all Muslims because one might believe anything under such a threat. Although the Quran might not mention the sword, this is a technicality that Yusef has used to obscure the truth (e.g. how is one beheaded? with a spoon?).
Jesus came with a sword because his message would cause people to fight one another. e.g. a Muslim with a sword beheads a Christian for believing Jesus is God.

I’ll stop here because I have addressed many of your other points in other discussions.

Come to the light! Repent and believe to good news!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5RjyxVEMVo

When Jesus spoke these words to the disciples, even He had no knowledge of the date and time of His return. Although Jesus was fully God (John 1:1, 14), when He became a man, He voluntarily restricted the use of certain divine attributes (Philippians 2:6–8). He did not manifest them unless directed by the Father (John 4:34; 5:30; 6:38). He demonstrated His omniscience on several occasions (cf. John 2:25; 3:13), but He voluntarily restricted that omniscience to only those things God wanted Him to know during the days of His humanity (John 15:15). Such was the case regarding the knowledge of the date and time of His return. After He was resurrected, Jesus resumed His full divine knowledge (cf. Matthew 28:18; Acts 1:7).

Matthew 24:36 clearly states that the Father alone knows when Jesus’ return will be. Verses such as John 5:30; 6:38; 8:28-29; 10:30; 12:49; 14:28, 31; and Matthew 26:39, 42 demonstrate Jesus’ submission to the Father as well as their Oneness in the Godhead. Yes, they are both God. But some things Jesus had apparently chosen to “give up the rights” to be privy to during His earthly ministry (see Philippians 2:5-11). Jesus, now exalted in Heaven, surely knows all, including the timing of His Second Coming.
http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-know-return.html

The bible says Jesus is God many, many times. Verses such as the one you have selected don’t explicitly state Jesus is not God. This is your reasoning alone. You must look at the bible in its overall entirety and message. The message is: God became a man who died for our sins.

The Islamic State is a truthful return to traditional Islam. If you believe they are following the one true God then I would appeal to your conscience and reasoning. Their God is not kind and not one I would want to follow. Most importantly IS rejects the truth of the Gospel and is eternally lost.

Jesus did not succumb to the temptation so his reputation is still intact. Satan tried to tempt him. It didn’t work. It was useless because he is God. Again, nothing in what you have quoted proves Jesus is not God.

Islam uses many techniques to conquer. The best method is to win people over by openness and dialogue. Armed conflict is not the preferred method. When Islam is in minority it tends to not rock the boat too much. As it gains strength then it becomes more militant and demanding. Islam is just using commonsense. Look at all Muslim majority countries. All non-Muslims are second class citizens. Places like Pakistan and Iran are notorious for persecution of non-Muslims.

The goal of Islam is to take over the world by force if necessary. The leaders in the West seem to be oblivious to the threat Islam is. Westerners do not go to Islamic countries because they would be persecuted, because only Islam is tolerated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEZPfj514Kk