[ April 17, 2024 ]
Something smells rotten in San Bernardino. Read my piece at Breitbart here.
“Geller: The Third Man”
By Pamela Geller, Breitbart News, December 10, 2015
Story continues below advertisementConspiracy theories bore me. They are an enormous waste of people’s time and energy, particularly now, at a time when conspiracy fact (i.e. the global jihad) is so overwhelming. You don’t need fairy tales when reality is so much more compelling. But something smells rotten in San Bernardino.
Like many shocked and horrified Americans, I watched events unfolding in real time. There were, from the very first, three shooters. Eyewitnesses, police scanner broadcasts, news reports all said the same thing.
One eyewitness, Sara Abdelmageed, gave extensive detail to Scott Pelley on the CBS Evening News. Here’s the exchange: “I heard shots fired and it was from — you know — an automatic weapon,” Abdelmageed said, “we looked out the window a second set of shots goes off…and we saw a man fall to the floor. Then we just looked and we saw three men dressed in all black, military attire, with vests on. They were holding assault rifles. As soon as they opened up the doors to building three one of them started to shoot into the room.”
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Abdelmageed said that she “couldn’t see a face, he had a black hat on — black cargo pants, the kind with the big puffy pockets on the side, long sleeve shirt, gloves, huge assault rifle six magazines I just saw three dressed exactly the same.”
Pelley asked her: “You are certain you saw three men?” Abdelmageed answered: “Yes. It looked like their skin color was white. They look like they were athletic build and they appeared to be tall.”
Another eyewitness, Juan Hernandez, saw the same thing: three men. He said the shooters were “three white men in military fatigues” who “took off” in a “black Impala or SUV.”
CBS Evening News titled one of its early reports: “Officials: 2 of 3 suspects dead in San Bernardino shooting.”
And then suddenly, the third man disappeared. No media reports mention him anymore. No law enforcement officials appear to be searching for him. He is gone without a trace, and no one has even noticed that he is missing, or was ever there in the first place.
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It’s extraordinary. The vanishing of this third man recalls the disappearance of the third man who was involved in the Oklahoma Federal building bombing with Timothy McVeigh. Jayna Davis of KFOR-TV in Oklahoma City reported on an FBI alert for “Middle Eastern-looking” suspects – an alert that was later canceled.
Davis charged that a Muslim named Hussain Al-Hussaini was the third Oklahoma City bomber; tellingly, he sued Davis for defamation but his case was thrown out. It was reported that “documents obtained by The Associated Press show that our government was warned that Islamic terrorists were planning attacks on American federal buildings around the time of the Oklahoma City bombing. The Clinton administration even stepped up security around such buildings.”
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA)
82%wrote in 2006: “It is highly likely that the Arab connection and/or the Strassmeir connection played a significant role in the planning and execution of the murderous bombing of the OKC federal building. In both possible scenarios, the official investigation fell short and further investigation has been discouraged ever since.” Andreas Carl Strassmeir was a German national who was alleged to be involved in the bombings, but his role was never fully investigated.
Back in 2006, Rohrbacher announced hearings on the matter: “I also will call witnesses who say they saw McVeigh with Arabs in Oklahoma City.” Former FBI agent Danny Coulson said at that time: “I’m very much in favor of this investigation by Congress. We need to look very closely at why the five FBI commanders originally assigned the case were pulled off. The FBI needs to answer to the Congress why they shut down their own investigation into Strassmeir and Elohim City.” Elohim City was a terror training camp in eastern Oklahoma. Coulson continued: “Why did their total investigation into Strasssmeir consist of two ASUSAs (assistant United States Attorneys) calling Strassmeir’s flat in Berlin a couple of times? He never should have been allowed to leave here without a more thorough series of interviews, face-to-face, by FBI agents trained in those skills.”
But those hearings did not resolve the issue, either. The perfunctory nature of the Oklahoma City investigation came to my mind as I watched in real time what happened to the jihadis’ apartment in San Bernardino. I was shocked, and liveblogged when the unthinkable happened after the murders: a mob of reporters were let into the jihad killers’ home in large numbers, contaminating evidence left and right and obstructing an investigation that was ongoing. The Spectator reported:
Former NYPD Det. Harry Houck said, “This apartment clearly is full of evidence,” he explained. “I don’t see any fingerprint dust on the walls where they went in there and checked for fingerprints for other people that might have been connected to these two. You’ve got documents laying all over the place — you’ve got shredded documents that need to be taken out of there and put together to see what was shredded,” Houck added. “You have passports, driver’s licenses — now you have thousands of fingerprints all over inside this crime scene.”
David Bowdich, the assistant director of the FBI’s Los Angeles office, tried to explain why this happened, and only ended up arousing more suspicion. He said: “Once the residents have the apartment and we’re not in it anymore, we don’t control it. Once we turn that location back over to the occupants of that residence or once we board it up, anyone who goes in at that point, that’s got nothing to do with us.”
Houck, the former NYPD detective, was shocked and he explained why: “I tell you I am so shocked. This is detective 101 for crying out loud. It looks like there are dozens of people in there totally destroying a crime scene which is still vital in this investigation because we don’t know how many other people that they were connected with in this thing. There might be tons of fingerprints in there that we need to look at to see if there is any kind of connection to those fingerprints or some people that may be on a watch list or something else.”
Where is the third man? Is he still at large? Are people at risk? And why was the apartment opened up and the fingerprint evidence destroyed? Why was evidence strewn about?
Something is rotten in the state of California.
Pamela Geller is the President of the American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI), publisher of PamelaGeller.com and author of The Post-American Presidency: The Obama Administration’s War on America and Stop the Islamization of America: A Practical Guide to the Resistance. Follow her on Twitter here. Like her on Facebook here.
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8 years ago
In Rotherham, UK, one of the many many raped girls took her clothing as evidence to the police. They “lost’ it. This is how subversion works.
8 years ago
Reply to
Michael Copeland
Michael:
At least 1,400 British girls, systematically raped, tortured, and turned into prostitutes. This went on for years. Police and school authorities cooperated with the Muslims to preserve the secrecy. And that Muslim prostitution ring was eventually exposed. Other rings are almost certainly still operating.
Cameron still does nothing.
8 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
There is no reason not to believe that almost every elected politician in office anywhere today, is somehow being bribed or blackmailed into permitting islamic atrocities to occur in their countries. A wholesale purge of the corrupt “halal” politicians in mandatory. Vote ever one of the dhimmi out and watch the replacements closely. At first sigh of submission to islam, kick them to the curb and replace with decent. The disgrace of Rotherham is a social monstrosity that Britain will never live down, there are no words to describe the cowardly, disgusting, disgrace every level of movement there practiced and encouraged.
8 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
http://i.imgur.com/IngQyVR.jpg
Yep … and all being hidden by the compliant “fourth estate” !!! ?
8 years ago
Reply to
Darrell Standing
Yes, the fact they raise their asses to the west , expecting to have them kissed, while preying is all part of their ritual. Time to introduce them to a new one, kicking the aforementioned asses.
8 years ago
Reply to
Darrell Standing
Darrell:
Oh, don’t say ‘Lynch’. It’s a bad word. It has micro-aggression.
8 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shouji:
Thanks for your reply. I agree that politicians are probably not bribed into doing this. It’s mainly left-wing politicians who enable these things.
The simplest explanation that fits with the most evidence is that there is a Leftist-Islamist alliance. After the USSR collapsed, the Left was on its own, with no military support. Since the Soviets had maintained strong ties with Islamic terrorists since the 1960’s, the Leftists picked up that thread. The Left has used Islamists as their shock troops and social agitators ever since.
There is abundant evidence for all this, spanning several decades. Every opponent of Israel has used Soviet or Russian weapons. Many European leftist political statements and documents have said they wanted massive Muslim immigration because Muslims would support the Left.
8 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
Muslims supporting the left? That is a very bad joke, in the old soviet union there ere republics that are islamic, they have been engaged in civil war and terrorism for years. The socialist fools do not realize they will be tools of islam until they are useless, then disposed of cheaply. Chechnya’n rebels being somewhat noticeable in western news.
8 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo:
Yes. On the surface it seems strange. And I think your comment about an approaching conflict between Islamists and Leftists is correct. Both sides seem to think they can wipe out the other side after they have neutralized the USA. Game theorists have been working on this for years.
The media is incorrect when they claim that the Left would not ally themselves with Muslims. They have done so numerous times in the past. Eg., the continuing strong support of Iran by Russia. They share a common goal. To defeat the West.
A simialr incorrect claim is that, “those Islamists over there won’t join forces with these other Islamists over here.” I fact, they have been forming complex alliances like that for about 5,000 years in the Middle East. The Crusaders ruled for 200 years, and they often fought side-by-side with Arab Muslims against other Arab Muslims. Later, everyone switched sides.
Basically, it was similar to the way Syria is today.
8 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
That is how life is there, loyalty and dedication are marketable commodities. Todays stooges and dhimmi think they can outsmart the treacherous sand rats with urban progressive thinking. How silly, they have been stabbing each other in the back in the middle east long before recorded history. The western progressive liberal socialist is routinely suffering from Dunning-Kruger effect.
8 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo:
Thanks for this tip about Dunning-Kruger. Yes, leftists do suffer from this ‘cognitive illusion’. As Dunning writes:
“An ignorant mind is precisely not a spotless, empty vessel, but one that’s filled with the clutter of irrelevant or misleading life experiences, theories, facts, intuitions, strategies, algorithms, heuristics, metaphors, and hunches that regrettably have the look and feel of useful and accurate knowledge.”
Another cognitive illusion that makes things worse is “ignoring the background rate”. The reality is that correct certainty about anything is uncommon. Most people are confused most of the time. I certainly am. I usually don’t know what I don’t know. I can discuss the politics of Kyrgyzstan with some small knowledge, but that only seems impressive because most people know even less than I do. In reality, I know very little about Kyrgyzstan. I don’t even know how I acquired my knowledge, or whether that knowledge is worth knowing. Everyone is confused like this.
Because the background rates of knowledge are so slippery, we focus on what we know and believe that it is all that is worth knowing. The trouble with hopefully clinging to bits of knowledge is that the world is full of fact pollution and truth abuse. For example, someone says. “The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer”.
Everyone nods in agreement.
But it’s untrue, and the truth blows the lid off of socialism.
There is abundant evidence that global GDP per person is increasing, even in very poor countries. In India, GDP routinely increases about 7% per year. Until about 1800, GDP per person was about $1 per day for over 200,000 years! The Industrial Revolution began the doubling of GDP. Since 1800, economic growth appears to shoot through the roof, even in poor countries.
Socialism is wrong because capitalism is right. Everyone is better off now, and the democratic free economies do much better than impoverished socialist backwaters like Laos.
So you are completely correct about Dunning-Kruger and leftists. They don’t know that they don’t know. And they don’t recognize that their knowledge base is polluted with falsehoods.
No wonder they start yelling and insulting people when someone doubts their words.
Link:
The Truth About Poverty
http://markhumphrys.com/third.world.html
8 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
Liberal socialist ignorance makes for a lot of discussion, the problem is that it is so far above them they cannot grasp the concept. They still have a lot of assumptions, that when investigated are false, like how the value of a thing is determined. Socialists keep pulling their version of fiscal reality out of thin air and wondering why it doesn’t hold water.
8 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
Not entirely … its both sides. Why else did Bush uselessly send our troops off to Afghanistan to run around chasing tribals, THEN invade Iraq to no cause whatsoever … all the while ignoring the Saudi’s – who provably attacked us using money they traced back to members of the Royal family.
8 years ago
Reply to
sodacrackers2
sodacrackers2
Leftists are complicit because they get the message that they must ignore what’s going on. The media are complicit because they are leftists. The UK social services staff are complicit because they are leftists.
The teachers unions are complicit because they are leftists. The police are complicit because teachers and social services don’t report anything to police. If the police do find out, local leftist politicians tell them to leave it alone.
The parents of the victims don’t know what is going on, because death threats keep the girls quiet, and most of the authorities are complicit, so they report nothing to the parents.
8 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
I guess this is what happens when we remove everything good from a society and replace it with evil. Darn good thing that God still is in charge.
8 years ago
Reply to
sodacrackers2
sodacrckers2
Yes, the left poo-poos conventional morality.
Socialists reject conventional morality as a bourgeoisie fiction. Karl Marx thought that the ruling class (bourgeoisie) made up a bunch of laws and moral guidelines, and then beat the proletariat over the head with them. Marx said the bourgeoisie never abided by these rules themselves.
Writing about the proletariat (victimized working class), Marx said,
“Law, morality, religion, are to him [the proletariat] so many bourgeois prejudices, behind which lurk in ambush just as many bourgeois interests.” Communist Manifesto, (1848) Marx-Engels
8 years ago
Reply to
sodacrackers2
sodacrackers2:
Yes, I think we all ask ourselves that.
Wherever I read or post comments on political topics, I see the same comment come up again and again. “What can we do?”
I don’t have all the answers, but I have a lot of hope and confidence that we will solve this problem if we work together. The answer seems to focus on the community. It’s too hard to change 330 million people in one big mass. They don’t move easily.
Here’s the basic theory on how to get a population to respond to a clear and present danger.
Scientists have studied many factors. Four stand out. (1) If I take action will I be effective? (2) How susceptible to the danger am I personally? (3) How severe will the consequences of inaction be? (4) What do others say?
Right now, 330 million Americans are only weakly motivated to act on this national crisis. They don’t feel effective. But the non-Muslims who live beside an Islamist mosque are highly motivated. Thus, organizing at the community level will be easier to do, and will be more effective when trouble comes. All the four factors are stronger at the community level: (1) People are more likely to believe they can be effective in reducing the threat, (2) it will be personally dangerous if they don’t, (3) the consequences will be severe, and (4) all the neighbors say the same thing.
We need well-organized minute-men. I don’t mean a militia, I mean vigilant and nimble individuals who can respond to obvious threats. This can all be done within the law. In Coos County, Oregon, recently, the county held a referendum that outlawed the enforcement of Oregon gun laws that violate the 2nd Amendment. Any Federal or State official who is caught enforcing those laws in Coos County will be arrested by the local sheriff. The sheriff swears allegiance to the Constitution, above all other authorities.
If 10,000 people phone, email, and visit the homes and offices of local politicians, county administrators, and local law enforcement, in a single day, they will get action.
If the Lions Club and the Rotary Club can organize at the community level, then so can we.
8 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules, thank you for your thoughtful and hopeful response. We can do it, and we will!
8 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
WE JUST HAVE TO TELL THE TRUTH BOLDLY UNTIMATELY WE ARE IN MORE DANGER WORRYING ABOUT THE DANGER AND FAILING TO SPEAK UP … ALL GANGS OPPERATE ON TERRORIST PRICIPAL … IF YOU APPEASE IT IT GETS WORSE
8 years ago
Reply to
sodacrackers2
1,) SPEAK UP ABOUT THE LIE OF ” RADICAL ISLAM ” MUHAMMAD WAS VILE … GET REAL THERE IS NO ” GROOVY ISAM “
8 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
MARX HATED GOD ANDSPREAD LIES THAT SEEMED ” INTELLECTUAL ” TO HELP PEOPLE DISREGARD GOD NOW MARXIST PROFESSORSARE DYING OF AIDS AND COCAINE AND CURSING GOD … WEIRD HUH ?
8 years ago
Reply to
Parks Curtis
YES. THAT’S WHAT G_D WARNED US ABOUT. PEOPLE WHO HARM THEMSELVES CANNOT ALWAYS BE RESCUED.
8 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
SO WHY IS KING OF ISRAEL AGREEING WITH OBAMA WE SHOULD RESPECT HOMOCIDE SUICIDE OF ISLAM AND THERE GOAL TO DESTROY ISRAEL ? 
8 years ago
Reply to
sodacrackers2
You are right. All followers of the first community organizer, those who want to be God. But only He IS.
8 years ago
Global jihad is a factor, but the American military-industrial complex, which actually rules the USA regardless of which party happens to be in the White house or Capitol, has a lot to do with making things worse.
8 years ago
Wasn’t the third man the neighbor? Are they trying to hide that he is Hispanic because of Caliph Obama’s illegal immigration on our Southern border?
8 years ago
Plus the police chased him into a neighborhood after stopping the SUV.
8 years ago
Very good questions.
Here’s another question: Why did the eyewitness/source Sara Yabba Dabba Doo falsely tell Scott Pelley that the perps were “white”?
And why was she in such a hurry to interject that mis-information?
We’ve seen pictures of the two dead jihad perps and they’re not even close to white, certainly not the male, and if she was looking at the female why would she think she was a male? Does Sara Yabba Dabba Doo think the jihad female is “white”?
We definitely don’t.
Who is Sara Yabba Dabba Doo and is America so flooded with dark-skinned people of all kinds that this is what they now call white?
8 years ago
If I were the 3rd man that the authorities are clearly not allowed to catch in CA, I’d run for the boarder and wait for the next opportunity to attack. Latin America is a great hideaway.
8 years ago
At the time it was reported that the third suspect had been apprehended and then let go. That after they chased him throughout the neighborhood. As for the FBI allowing people to compromise the evidence, they said they had all the evidence they needed.
From the start the reporters told us that the authorities on the ground had no doubt it had been a terrorist attack, but that they were under extreme pressure from Washington. My take? They decided to close shop, but left behind evidence for the reporters to find. An MSNBC reported “discovered” a commendation from ICNA on the wall, for the work the mother did for the organization. I’m sure the FBI knew if they took that into evidence, it would die in a box. Now thanks to that reporter, it is out in the open, and it depends on the people and the media to stay on top of that piece of information.
As for not finger printing the place, they have no excuse. According to the witness who decided not to pass the info he saw not to be labeled a racist, there were half a dozen men walking in and out of the house for days. Do they expect we believe they left no evidence behind them? C’mon!
I believe Pamela is wrong in one thing. Something is rotten not just in the state of California. Something is very rotten at national level.
8 years ago
Reply to
Charles Martel
Charles Martel (Martel is French for “the hammer”)
I see signs of civil service rebellion. Others are also seeing these signs. E.g.,Obama says ISIS is under control. Hours later, Defense Sec. Carter says ISIS is not under control.
Americans believe in honesty and the rule of law. The FBI is the ping-pong ball of Obama’s political machine. It must be frustrating. People forget that there are four levels of Government. The first three, and then the civil service, of whom there are many thousands.
US Federal budget = $15 trillion.
8 years ago
Reply to
Charles Martel
Yep. Subversive is rotten. Lies are rotten. Government deception and potus collusion on muslim brotherhood plans and activities is treason. Here’s hoping you’re right and some FBI folks still fighting the good fight intentionally let the reporters contaminate the scene in order to get the facts out there.
Re the OKC bombing – the third man left open-ended was always curious. The way McVeigh was “caught” was far too coincidental to be real IMO.
8 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
Never heard that but given what’s gone on these last 6+ years – little would surprise me anymore.
8 years ago
Reply to
Mxpctlk
Mxpctlk:
I have no hard evidence. But the OKC bombing was very convenient for Bill Clinton. First the machine-gun standoff at WACO (George Bush’s hometown). Then the OKC incident done as a ‘revenge’ against WACO. McVeigh was the perfect iconic image of the violent-right-wing extremist. That is, the Leftist’s imaginary image of the right-wing extremist.
The Clintons got a lot of mileage out of the OKC bombing. They are still warning people about the ‘vast, right-wing conspiracy’. Of course there is no conspiracy, it’s out in the open. The majority of Americans are openly conservative, and they want liberty, free enterprise, democracy, and the rule of law. The Clintons hate all that.
8 years ago
Reply to
Charles Martel
That’s an interesting theory. I wonder if the F.I.B. could’ve turned the crime scene over the local police instead of news reporters though?
Something’s rotten alright and the smell is coming from the direction of the District of Criminals.
8 years ago
France may close 100 to 160 mosques.
Hassan El Alaoui, who is the chaplain for Muslims in French prisons said, “According to official figures and our discussions with the Interior Ministry, between 100 and 160 more mosques will be closed because they are run illegally without proper licenses, they preach hatred, or use takfiri speech… This kind of speech shouldn’t even be allowed in Islamic countries, let alone secure countries like France.”
Since May 2012, France has expelled 65 imams and preachers, a drop in the bucket. France has about 2,600 mosques. In the US, about 80% of mosques preach hatred and jihad.
France invoked emergency powers after the Paris attacks, and has just extended them for three months. Police have searched over 2,200 homes and detained more than 200 people, which is what they should have been doing all along. If emergency powers are needed to enforce simple civil law, then France needs to fix its laws. Emergency powers are dangerous.
8 years ago
TRUMP IS AGREEING WITH OBAMA ABOUT ” FREINDS ” AND ” RADICAL ” BOTH LIES HE SAYS ” ‘is about security…not religion’ MORE DENIAL OF TRUTH …. MUSLIMS RELIGION IS TO DESTROY / INBREED / ” KILL ALL NON MUSLIMS ” SINCE THE FOUNDER OF ISLAM WAS A PEDOPHILE TERRORIST WHO PERECUTED ANYONE WHO WOUL;DNT BOW DOWN TO HIS RELIGION AMND SPECIFICALLY HATED CHRISTIANS ANDD JEWS … HOW THE HELL IOS IT WE GET TRICKED THAT A RELIGION OF HATE HAS ” NOTHERING TO DO W/ RELIGION ” ? ISLAM SAYS TO DESTROY ISRAEL … THATS PART OF THERE RELIGION … NOW EVEN ISRAEL GETS TRICKED TO ” RESPECT ” THIS RELIGION THAT SAYS TO DESTROY IT ? …. W T H ? THIS IS WHY WE CANNOT TRUST IN CELEBRITIES NOR FOLLOW THEM AND MUST FOLLOW AND INSIST ON TRUTH … WE ARE BEING SELF DESTRUCTIBVE IN NOT JUST ADMITTING ISLAM AND THE MUSLIMS WHO FOLLOW IT ARE OUR SELF ADMITRED ENEMIES . IF HITLER SAYS ” KILL THE JEWS ” YOU CAN AGREE HIS FOLLOWERS ARE OUR ENEMIES . BUT MUHAMMAD SAYS ” KILL ALL NON MUSLIMS ” ANFD YOU COME UP WITH 101 WAYS ” HE DIDNT MEAN THAT ” AS MUSLIMDS KILL US … W T H ?HY CANT WE HAVE 1 CONSERVATIVE THAT ACTUALLY JUST ADMITS OUR ENEMIES ARE OUR EMEMIES … IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK AS WE ARE SLAIN AND OUR CHILDREN RAPED SOLD BLOWN UP AND ABDUCTED … JUST LIKE PLAIN ISLAM SAYS TO DO / JUST LIKE MUHAMMAD HIM SELF SAID TO DO … WHY ARE WE PRETENDING STILL / ITS NEGLIGENT / PAMELA … EVEN CRUZ JUST LIED THE NON PEACEFUL ASSEMBLY OF ISLAM THAT IS SEDITIOS AGHAINST OUR LAND IS ” CONSTITUTIONAL . ANDREW B SAID ” TRUMP IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE ” BUT NOW HIS PAGES CENSOR AMNYONE POOINTING OUT TRUMPS TAQUIYA ENABLING
8 years ago
Reply to
Parks Curtis
Parks Curtis:
OK, I understand you have a visual handicap, so you write in all capitals. So I ‘translated’ your comment for you:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Trump is agreeing with Obama about “friends” and “radical” both lies he says “‘is about security…not religion” more denial of truth ….
Muslims’ religion is to destroy / inbreed / “kill all non Muslims” since the founder of Islam was a pedophile terrorist who persecuted anyone who wouldn’t bow down to his religion and specifically hated Christians and Jews …
How the hell is it we get tricked that a religion of hate has “nothing to do w/ religion” ? Islam says to destroy Israel … that’s part of their religion … now even Israel gets tricked to “respect” this religion that says to destroy it ? …. w t h ? This is why we cannot trust in celebrities nor follow them and must follow and insist on truth …
We are being self-destructive in not just admitting Islam and the Muslims who follow it are our self admitted enemies. If Hitler says “kill the Jews” you can agree his followers are our enemies. But Muhammad says “kill all non Muslims” and you come up with 101 ways “he didn’t mean that” as Muslims kill us … w t h ? Why can’t we have 1 conservative that actually just admits our enemies are our enemies … is that too much to ask as we are slain and our children raped sold blown up and abducted … just like plain Islam says to do / just like Muhammad him self said to do …
why are we pretending still / its negligent / Pamela … even Cruz just lied the non peaceful assembly of Islam that is seditious against our land is ” constitutional . Andrew B said “trump is not a conservative” but now his pages censor anyone pointing out Trump’s taquiya enabling.
8 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
A WORTHLESS LEFTIST COMMENT … AS USUAL DUCKING EVERY ISSUE http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/009-friends-with-christians-jews.htm
8 years ago
Reply to
Parks Curtis
Parks Curtis:
OK. But my lower-case version is a word-for-word copy of your upper-case version. Sorry friend, I thought I was doing you a favor…
8 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
AGAIN YOU ARE DOING NO ONE A FAVOR BY SKIPPING LIFE AND DEATH ISSUES AND DIVERTING TO CASE CONFORMITY 
8 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
I AGREE … YOU ARE CONFUESED . GET BACK TO PRIOROTIES OF DISCUSSION THAT CAN SAVE OUR WESTERN LANDS ” DEMOCRACY RULES ” NOT IN TOTALITARIAN SHARIA 
8 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
NO ONE CAN MAKE AMERIUCA OR THE WORD GREAT BY DENYING / DIVERTING FROM OR ENABLINGBTHE DECEPTIVE HOMOCIDAL SUICIDAL NATERE OF ISLAM AND LIES
8 years ago
Reply to
Parks Curtis
INSTEAD O9F THE LEFTIST Z E R O MERIT BUT JUST MELTING DOWN AND CURSING AS IF THAT WAS ” VALID INTELLIGENT CONTRIBUTION ” HOW ABOUIT YOU STATE YOUR ISSUE EVEN ?
8 years ago
Reply to
Parks Curtis
WHY ? BECAUSE I NOTICED TRUMP AGREES W/ OBAMA ABOUT Islam ? STATE YOUR CASE DONT JUST LEFTIST MELTDOWN .. WHAT IS YO0UR ISSUE SO I CAN SLAY IT … IF YOU HAVE THE GUMPTION …; LET ME GUESS YOU GOT TRICKED TRUMP IS NOT A LEFDTIST SO NOW LIKE SA LEFTIST YOU CURSE AT ANTOINE NOT GOING ALONG WITH THE FALSE NARRATIVE ?RIGHT ? … 
8 years ago
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Parks Curtis
AGAIN CAPS ARE NOT THE ISSUE MERLY A PREFERENCE . YOU THINKING TELLING OTHERS HOPW TO TYPE IS A PRIORITY SHOWS HOW LOST YOU ARE . I BETB YOU THINK ” RADICALIZATION ” OF ISLAMN IS THE ISSUE TOO DONT YOU ? PEOPLE SO EASILY DISTRACTED BY INCONSEQUENTIAL THINGS INVARIABLY HAVE NOT PROCESSED THE COLD HARD FACTS … SO ARE YOU REALLY O C D ABOUT CAPITAL LETTERS OR IS IT AN ACTUAL ISSUE YOU ARE UPSET ABOUT LIKE ME REFUTING TRUMP NWHO HAS HELPED TO DESTROY AMERICA IS GOING TO ” MAKE IT GREAT AGAIN ” WHILE AGREEING WITH OBAMA ABOUT ” FRIENDS ” AND ” RADICALIZATION… ITS NOT ” OK ” FOR YOU TO DUCK THESE ISSUES THEN PLAY SHARIA GRAMMAR NAZI … SHAME ON YOU GET BACK TO DRESSING THE R E A L ISSUES … B T W YOU CONFORMISTS … THE AWARD WINNING CARTOON BY ARTIST FAWSIN WITH DIALOGUE WITH MUHAMMAD IS E X A C T L Y OPPOSITE YOUR CAPS RULE ” all caps is ok for a few words, but not the whole statement.” WE LIVE IN AMERICA … PERHAPS YOU SHOULD START A PETITION TO ” STOP THE CAPITALIZATION OF AMERICA
‘ … YOUR PRIORITIES ARE OFF… FOCUS ON THE HIGHLY RELEVANT ISSUERS NOT TRYI9NG TO ENFORCE YOUR LIBERAL AGENDA OF DIVERTING AND ALL IMPORTANT ” CASE SENSITIVITY ” O0N ALL OTHERS … TRUST ME ITS A NON ISSUE AND NOT 1 BUTTON HAS COME OFF . NOTICE AS I POINT OUT THE TRUTH NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE RIDICULOUS BULLYING / CURSING / FALSE ACCUSATIONS / CURSING VILENESS THE TOP PRIORITY : EVERYONE MUST TYPE THE SAME … YOUR RULES ARE IRRELEVANT… ALL DIVERTING FROM DE-CAPITATRION TO DE-CAPITALIZATION ARE DOING A DISERVICE AND RTHE ABSURDITY IS WE LIVE IN A FREE LAND WITH WHOLE 2 CHOPICES OF CASE AND THE R E A L ISSUES BEING DIVERTED FROM BY CONFORMIST NON THINKERS MORE THAN JUSTIFY CAPS ! NOW DO YOU AGREE W/ OBAMA AND TRUMP MUSLIMS ARE OUR ” FREINDS” ? GET REAL PRIORITIES …. SO ABSURD 
8 years ago
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Parks Curtis
IF YOU ADMIT YOU AGREE YOU ADMIT YOU UNDER STAND … CAN WE GET BACK TO THE REAL ISSUES LIKE ARE YOU BELIEVING CRUZ WHO SAYS ISLAM IS CONSTITUTIONAL ?
8 years ago
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Parks Curtis
ALL OF THEM ARE LYING AND WE NEED TO BE SQEEKY WHEELS TO PAMELA ABOUT IT … I KNEW CRUZ WAS WRONG BECAUSEHE LIED ISIS WERE ” RADICALS ISLA ” WHEN THEY ARE PLAIN ISLAM … PAM PROMOTED HIM NOW HE IS LYING THAT ISLAM IS ‘ CONSTITUTIONAL ” PAMELA NEEDS TO PIN POINT THE LEAK IN THE DAMN BEFORE IT IMPLODES ON US FOR IGNORING THE GREATEST LIE OF ALL ” RADICAL ISLAM ” IS A LIE THAT SATANIC ISLAM IS NOT REALLY TO BLAME FOR THEZE ATTACKS WHEN IT MOST CERTAINLY IS … IF WE PRETEND THAT ISLAM IS NOT ISLAM WE WILL CONTINE TO LOOSE
8 years ago
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Parks Curtis
8 years ago
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Parks Curtis
KimWilde:
Thanks for your support! I think he really does have lot of trouble reading small fonts, and he actually can’t read my replies to him. The font is too small for him. If I’m lucky, he has a care-giver who reads some of his comments. Perhaps they will help him figure out how to enlarge the fonts on the screen, In Firefox, if he presses the control key and the plus key (+), he can make the font bigger.
It must be frustrating for him, like blogging in the dark.
8 years ago
So if it was 3 men, what did the Paki wife do? Be the driver? When they were caught, were they in full body gear? Too many questions…that dont make sense.
8 years ago
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Nk
Nk:
She was the brains, imported from Pakistan by ISIS to ensure that the job was done right.
8 years ago
The OKC bombing was not investigated by the FBI because Bill Clinton did not want Islamic jihad to be successful on his watch, so he had them stand down. Jayna Davis’ book is excellent, I read it last summer. The SB jihad will not be investigated because Obama has had the feds stand down. We desperately need a POTUS who will stand up instead of giving the order to stand down.
8 years ago
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Richard
Richard:
I agree. I think the cover-ups help explain why Al Qaida started doing multiple-instance simultaneous attacks, as in 9/11. I think they did this because politicians were covering up every single-instance terrorist attack. They called it “an accident”, or a “lone gunman”. No terrorism admission = no public terror.
E.g., the Egypt-Air disaster, where the co-pilot locked the pilot out of the cockpit after the plane left New York, and then he pointed the nose straight down, shouting “Allah o Akbar”. Everyone died. Bill Clinton said it was an inexplicable suicide.
The OKC bombing was a single-instance attack, so Bill Clinton could dismiss it as a few right-wing religious nuts. He successfully concealed the fact that a Philippine-based Islamist helped design the bomb.
8 years ago
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DemocracyRules
That’s sound reasoning. However Hussein al-Hussieni was an Iraqi. The bomb maker who trained Nichols and McVeigh was Iranian. I believe they merely trained in the Phillipines. The Iraq-Iran coalition to inspire the OKC bombing shows how even enemies in the Islamic world will join forces to attack the US.
It’s all in the book, The Third Terrorist. The last third of the book or so really documents well the willful incompetence of the FBI. Some things don’t change.
8 years ago
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Richard
Richard:
Thanks for bringing up the Iraqi connection. I agree, the FBI needs more independent review and supervision.
Sibel Edmonds’ Boiling Frogs:
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/
There is a problem with denying and ignoring Islamic terrorist attacks on US citizens. The outcome was 9/11. Almost no one was ready for the attack, because the populace were not aware that multiple attacks had already occurred. Even the people at NORAD could not believe that this was a terrorist attack.
Back then, most politicians and military were getting most of their news from TV. They had no idea that Islamic terrorists were numerous and active in the US.
8 years ago
Of course. Was the third man this “supplier” of the rifles, Marquez? Or someone else? When you say the crime scene was managed in a perfunctory way, that is a very apt word choice. Meanwhile the mother of Syed F. says she knew nothing. Where is the credibility of this woman? The whole story stinks. It’s falling apart before it even comes out!!! My disgust is mounting. Who is the third shooter? Why aren’t public figures asking this question? Candidates for office? Congressmen and congresswomen? Senators? Why do intelligent questions have to wait for Pam Geller to ask them? lt’s actually a nightmare sequence…..they say they are going to get to the bottom of all this, but there is no statement or no questions about what it is they are getting to the bottom of……
8 years ago
Every shooting becomes the latest push for “gun control” i.e. disarming Americans contrary to our Constitution. Either the government is merely acting in an opportunistic way (“never let a crisis go to waste…”) OR these are intelligence operations, designed and then irchestrated to push an agenda. If such is the case, they already have determined an “acceptable level” of “collateral damage.” Either way, it’s disgusting.
It’s all easier to note and successfully analyze an actual conspiracy when it’s not on home soil. Primarily because it’s easier to be objective. For example, the Obama administration tried it in Benghazi, but much of their plan backfired, and over time it became obvious that the administration was ignoring requests for increased security and that they were arming Syrian “rebels” with our high-tech weapons– more than 200 went missing “in the confusion.” Seal Team 6 is another example.
The nature of a conspiracy is such that it is difficult, if not impossible, to ferret out.
There are many missing pieces in the San Bernadino crime. Regardless of the agenda–whether by opportunity or design–we will find it maddening to try to fill in the blanks. But we should keep trying. That’s how Benghazi was uncovered–people did not stop investigating.
8 years ago
Oh yeah San Bernardino smells alright. We locals know full well. At least SB isn’t my hometown where I live, shesh.
8 years ago
If they handed back the apartment they must have got what they wanted. They could have held on to it as long as they wanted. The FBI is one of the most trusted investigation organisations, they even get called in by other countries to help. I you do not trust the FBI who can you trust?
8 years ago
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conan_drum
From Wikipedia: Operating under the jurisdiction of the U.S. Department of Justice, FBI is concurrently a member of the U.S. Intelligence Community and reports to both the Attorney General and the Director of National Intelligence.
Not exactly a description that builds trust.
8 years ago
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Xavier
No trust. Agents have to do what they’re told by their higher ups. And all those departments have been infiltrated by Moslem Brotherhood.
8 years ago
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conan_drum
The FBI has ZERO credibility !
For God’s sake, Hillary Clinton was using a private email server, teenage Chinese hackers were reading her email for years, and now the FBI is just starting to investigate and pretending like they just found out about it.
You have GOT TO BE KIDDING me.
If you can swallow that FBI BS, I have a bridge I’d like to sell you.
The FBI has ZERO credibility.
Nothing in the Obama dictatorship has any credibility.
Lies lies lies…
8 years ago
There are common threads here. Oklahoma City—Clinton—Democrats. San Bernardino—Obama—Democrats. It’s the Dem Way once more. Cover up, lie, spin. So much for the ‘vast right-wing conspiracy’.
8 years ago
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Benton Marder
I am starting to wonder if they actually believe their own lies and are trying to rid the world of as many people as possible.
8 years ago
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sodacrackers2
8 years ago
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Benton Marder
Benton Marder:
Yes, common threads. Cables, actually. Even if one sticks entirely to what we know for sure, there is still a network of cables. The notion that Islamo-philia (love for Islam) started with Obama is untrue. It started with Carter, and the Clintons continued it. That’s a lot of years of Islamist activities.
8 years ago
Some of the initial eyewitness descriptions had labeled the third guy as the getaway driver. And while things were progressing there was a house police had surrounded as a possible standoff site to capture him, and then nothing. The saga stops immediately with no further mention of him.
D
8 years ago
I do the math differently: By all initial accounts, 3 male shooters; subsequently, 1 man and 1 woman “perpetrators” dead. 3 men – 1 man = 2 men. There are two shooters missing. Has anyone seen, heard or read anything about what “Melik” was wearing when killed? How tall was that woman and can she be mistaken for a man? I know that the FBI and Executive branch know the answers.
8 years ago
Sara Abdelmageed notice no pictures of this woman, SHE IS ARAB! She provided disinformation. FOLKS THE MAGGOTS ARE CRAWLING OUT OF THIS CARCASS!
8 years ago
On the first BBC account of the Bernadino shooting which I saw, the reporters in fact said that there were FOUR shooters…
8 years ago
Muslims are short. Not tall.
8 years ago
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David C. Telliho
Arabs, Central Asians, Indonesians are generally short. Obama is over 6 feet. How tall is Brennan? Exceptionally, Bin Laden was quite tall. Islam is not a race.
8 years ago
My government and the media lie to me everyday. I cannot trust them to tell me the truth. My government cannot and refuses to protect me. Therefore I must protect myself.
8 years ago
Thanks for mentioning Jayna Davis and her book
“The Third Terrorist: The Middle East Connection to the Oklahoma City Bombing”
It’s a facinating book, everyone should read it.
The other thing that astounded me about Tim McVeigh was how fast George Bush executed him as soon as Bush got into office. I got the impression at the time that a loose end in the Oklahoma Bombing was being eliminated and McVeigh was being silenced – forever, not that “Justice” was following it’s normal course, and we all know that even those convicted of murder normally spend many years in prison before executions are carried out.
8 years ago
Once you peel back the layers it appears that the Feds for many years have been suppressing the involvement of Islamic Caliphate terrorist soldiers (simply “terrorist” no longer appear to be appropriate for such an organized effort) in various attacks on the Western world. Once we become aware of the organized effort and stop attributing it to disorganized terrorists, we will understand we are involved in a war (that one side utilizes terror as the main means to wage it) albeit one the West refuses to acknowledge or fight.
8 years ago
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scocope
scocope:
Good points. The news managers won’t tell us, but we now know that almost all the terrorism since 1968 is linked to the Soviets or Islamists, both. Sirhan Sirhan, who shot Bobby Kennedy, was and is a Palestinian communist (still in jail). The terrorists of the 1970’s and 1980’s like the Baader-Mienhof gang in Germany, were mainly Soviet-backed. The news managers called them ‘dissidents’, but they kidnapped and murdered in many places in West Germany. They worked directly for East German intelligence (Stasi).
8 years ago
Darrecq:
Keep all your notes!
8 years ago
The shooter took off in a black ” Impala or SUV”. Two entirely different vehicles. Sounds like somebody is trying to confuse the investigation, like releasing the crime scene after only 48 hour so. Maybe the shooter was on the grassy knoll?
8 years ago
THE 3RD MAN MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE MUSLIM FAMILY MEMBER ON THE NEWS SAYING ” WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY THEY DID THIS …. I THOUGHT MUHAMMAD SAID TO LOVE CHRISTMAS PARTIES ” …. YEAH THATS HOW LIBTARDED WE HAVE BECOME ,,, THEY HATE US AMD ARE TRAINED TO LIE TO US THEN TRUMP AND OBAMA TEKLL US ” BUT THEY ARE FABULOUS MU$$$LIM FRIENDS ” … I AGREE PAMELLA THE POINT IS NON VIGILANCE AND PEOPLE PRETENDING THEY HAVE SOME SPECIAL ANGLE THAT CONT COMPREHEND THE OBVIOUS … THEY ARE MORE LIKELY TO BELIEVE THAT THJE G O P IS IN A PLOT WITRH ALIENS FROM A DISTANT SOLAR SYSTEM THAN THAT MUHAMMAD SAID ” KILL ALL THE INFIDELS ” AND MUSLIMS THINK THATS ” HOLY ” LANGUAGE …
8 years ago
How tall was the wife?
8 years ago
WHAT IF THE MUSLIMS ON TV IN THE SAME FAMILY OF PEDOPHIE TERRORIST DECEIVER MUHAMMAD WHO SAID TO FOOLS US THEN DESTROY US SAYING ” UMMMMM WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY THEY DID IT ,,,, ” ARE 3RD SHOOTER ? WHAT IF OBAMAS LYING THAT ITS NOT A ” DARKJ PATH TO RADICALIZATION / PERVERTED FORM OF ISLAM “M BUT MUHAMMAD ACTUALLY FACTUALLY TEXTUALLY BY THERE OWN ADMISSION IS A PEDOPHILE TERRORIST CHARALOTAN OFFERING FAKE PRIZES FOR HOMOCIDE SUYICIDE SO HE CAN RAPE MORE WOMEN AND CHILDREN SELL THEM AND HAVE A BIGGER PILE OF GOLD ?
