COVID-19 Patients Given Unproven Drug In Texas Nursing Home In ‘Disconcerting’ Move
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And again we ask, why are American taxpayers forced to underwrite far-left propaganda?
COVID-19 Patients Given Unproven Drug In Texas Nursing Home In ‘Disconcerting’ Move
By: Vanessa Romo, NPR, April 10, 2020:
Story continues below advertisementConcern is mounting after a doctor at a Texas nursing home started giving the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine to dozens of elderly patients diagnosed with COVID-19 and tracking the outcomes in what he’s calling an “observational study.”
Use of the drug to treat coronavirus infections has set up a heated debate between the Trump administration and leading health experts over its efficacy against COVID-19.
President Trump has been an enthusiastic champion of hydroxychloroquine, calling it a “game-changer.” But some of the nation’s most respected health officials have said there is insufficient evidence showing that the 80-year-old drug, which is typically used to stave off malaria or treat lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, is a viable treatment in battling the new virus.
The Food and Drug Administration has not approved the drug for the treatment of COVID-19. The U.S. National Institutes of Health is currently tracking clinical trials of the drug. Additionally, the University of Minnesota is undertaking a trial and Columbia University is as well. Results are not expected for weeks or months.
The controversial decision to administer hydroxychloroquine at The Resort at Texas City over the last few days was made by Robin Armstrong, a physician and medical director of the nursing home.
“It’s actually going well. People are getting better,” Armstrong told NPR, adding that after just a handful of days, some of the 39 patients on the medication are showing signs of improvement.
But scientists argue that relying on observational, uncontrolled evidence can be misleading and that the only way to truly prove a drug is working is through carefully controlled clinical trials. And, contrary to Armstrong’s assertion that hydroxychloroquine “has virtually no side effects,” it is known to have serious negative health impacts. That is why so many in the medical community worry about prescribing it without such proof.
Among them is Katherine Seley-Radtke, who is a medicinal chemist at The University of Maryland, Baltimore County. She specializes in antiviral drug research, including coronaviruses.
“This is really disconcerting,” Seley-Radtke told NPR.
Armstrong admits it is difficult to quantify how much of his elderly patients’ improvement is due to the malaria drug or how they would have fared without it. Nor can he explain why other patients are not responding to the tablet doses, though he notes many are only halfway through the five-day cycle.
“To be clear, no one is worse than when they started,” he said emphatically. “From my perspective, it’s irresponsible to sit back and do nothing. The alternative would have been much much worse.”
In total, 87 people at The Resort tested positive — 56 of 135 residents as well as 31 staffers. One patient has since died.
“We know how it happened,” Armstrong said, explaining that after one staffer tested positive for COVID-19, Galveston County officials tested all other people at the facility on April 2. What they uncovered was one of the largest outbreaks in the Houston region.
“One staffer spread it to other staffers … and each of them could work with 20 to 30 patients a day,” Armstrong said.
Armstrong said he was alarmed by the test results last week and immediately began making calls to track down a source for the medicine, which is in short supply.
That’s when his political connections proved useful.
Armstrong, who is a prominent GOP activist, called Republican Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick. He says Patrick reached out to Texas state Sen. Bryan Hughes, also a Republican, who knew someone on the board of the New Jersey-based company Amneal Pharmaceuticals. The company, which makes and distributes the drug, has donated more than a million tablets nationwide, including to the states of Texas and Louisiana.
Two days later, Armstrong had received more than enough medication to begin giving it to patients. He said he started by screening those he believed would benefit most and added more people each day. He monitored their blood oxygen saturation, temperatures and how well they were breathing.
“The people who are on it were getting sicker but were not so sick that they had to go the hospital,” Armstrong explained.
He acknowledged that some families were not aware their relatives were put on the drug, saying that “for the most part,” he consulted with each nursing home resident prior to giving them on the tablets.
While the “overwhelming majority of them are awake and alert and can actually have a conversation,” Armstrong said some suffer from middle stages of dementia. In some cases, he did not discuss prescribing the tablets with anyone at all before doing so. He said it is common for physicians to prescribe new medications to patients without explicit consent from the patient or family members. “It’s not required,” he said.
He explained he was convinced by clinical studies from Europe and China showing that hydroxychloroquine helps COVID-19 patients recover from the respiratory illness because it works as “essentially an anti-inflammatory drug.”
He has some anecdotal evidence: “I’ve seen it in COVID-19 patients we’re treating” at HCA Houston Healthcare Mainland Hospital, Armstrong said.
The health care network confirmed Armstrong is a practicing physician at the hospital but would not comment on treatment of patients because of privacy concerns.
Armstrong said he is tracking the nursing home patients’ health changes daily and plans to put his findings in “some kind of report” that he hopes will add to the research on the malarial drug in relation to COVID-19.
“The problem with this is that it’s not being conducted in a proper scientific manner,” Seley-Radtke said. “It’s not being carried out with controls. It’s not being carried out under strict testing protocols and using appropriate guidelines.”
She noted warnings issued by the FDA that the drug can lead to severe problems for people with heart issues and noted that the agency urges doctors to conduct an EKG before prescribing it. (A step Armstrong said was taken on Thursday.) Another side effect involves damage to the retina.
Because it is still in the experimental stages, how much to use is not clear.
“We know the right dosages for malaria and lupus and rheumatoid arthritis but don’t know yet what the right dosages are [for COVID-19], that’s why we are doing clinical trials to make sure we get it right,” she said.
Seley-Radtke added: “I just find it amazing that everybody, including the President, thinks that this is just no big deal to go ahead and take this.”
Armstrong denies he was swayed by politics or Trump’s championing of the malaria drug in his decision to implement it at the nursing home before it has been proven safe and effective against COVID-19.
“It’s up to a medical professional to determine how and when it would be appropriate to prescribe,” Chris Van Deusen, a spokesman for the Texas Department of State Health Services, told NPR.
Armstrong said most COVID-19-positive residents at the nursing home are asking to be on the medication “but we’re being very judicious.”
Despite the grim tally of positive cases among such a vulnerable population, he said the spread of the virus at the nursing home could have been much worse had staff there not implemented social distancing precautions before they were mandated by the state.
“We took a lot of steps early on that protected a lot of people,” he said.
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2 many 4 syllable words, please dumb it down for me
LOL! I knew I couldn’t be the only one.
The National Propaganda Radio network pushes the democRAT agenda. Since president Trump brought up that hydroxychloroquine as an effective treatment for covid-19, the liberal media has done everything they can to downplay the good results.
see my post below. there is something deeply sinister going on before our very eyes
No only Left Media but Libs in general on Facebook!
Do NOT use MugBook
thankie skankie… only shows your stupidity…
tisk tisk little skank… you really need to have your meds checked… Michelle…
LMAO @ U… I own you
yes and idiot Gen X and Z
pamela, i have an assignment for your investigative staff. in 2017, hydroxychloroquine was manufactured by apotex. apotex was founded by a rich canadian named barry sherman, who you may recall was found with his wife both strangled in their home in December 2017. the bill gates funded pirbright institute was applying for their coronavirus patent at this same time. gates now wants to sell his vaccine, which could kill many of us, and is doing his best with his lackey fauci to downplay the barry sherman drug. all this cannot be a coincidence. please look into this, as i think it could forever blow the lid off of the deep state
Vaccines KILL YOU… these RNA visus’s mutate… shape changing making the previous “vaccine” worthless… vaccines are a dead end street..
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Someone should be looking into how Bill Gates networth went up $5 BILLION DOLLARS in 6 days this month??
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whoa, let’s not be crazy here. i’m 65, and due to childhood vaccines have enjoyed a long life free of smallpox, polio, measles, diptheria, typhoid, tetanus, and God knows what else. for those who can remember the horrors of polio, jonas salk is saint and his vaccine is a gift from God.
This is a chimera… fool… a man made furin cleaved SARS/HIV virion…
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BTW… I’m 67 so what??
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all of the described diseases are a single specie… NOT a RNA hybrid… you don’t have a clue..
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just another arm chair know it all…
cjkcjk is an IDIOT…
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Chloroquine is an ionophore… which pierces the lipid fat layer to get the zinc into the virion…
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This zinc + ionophore approach was successfully tested on the deadly SARS-coronavirus that struck human populations in Asia in 2003-2004 and was also found to be effective against coxsackievirus, foot-and-mouth disease, and rhinoviruses (cold viruses).
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Zinc alone only reduced viral replication by ~50% due to the lack of solubility of this trace mineral and its subsequent inability to be transported across the lipid (fatty) cell wall.
LittleRoot_48 is a MORON
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Chloroquine is an ionophore… which pierces the lipid fat layer to get the zinc into the virion…
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This zinc + ionophore approach was successfully tested on the deadly SARS-coronavirus that struck human populations in Asia in 2003-2004 and was also found to be effective against coxsackievirus, foot-and-mouth disease, and rhinoviruses (cold viruses).
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Zinc alone only reduced viral replication by ~50% due to the lack of solubility of this trace mineral and its subsequent inability to be transported across the lipid (fatty) cell wall.
LMAO at you inbred hillbilly FREAKS
I think whammie’s all pissed because they haven’t come up with a vaccine for the AIDS he got butt injected with.
sorry… not so … is that all you got queer bait? or did your trannie wife CUM up with that…:LMAO
I hit a nerve with the truth! LOL!
Wishful thinking queer bait… LMAO @ U FREAK
done munching your momma’s carpet??
You are just so original queer bait… does it take you that long to look up how to spell the words in an English dictionary??
LMAO @ U
Outing you has hurt, hasn’t it?
Tell us when you do… LMAO @ U
skankie up protecting her inbred brother/lover…LMAO @ U
Speak English queer bait…
I realize English is your second lanugauge… maybe get your GED… LMAO @ U
The inimical skank Michelle is at her malicious postings again… you need to seek immediate medical attention… bf you hurt your lover/brother… LMAO @ U… I own you
wishful thinking little queer… your futile attempts at rebuttals are like a one legged man at an ass kicking contest… and you LOOSE queer bait… LMAO @ U
So original queer bait…NOT… LMAO @ U
I hit a nerve with truth.
Is that all you got queer bait??
sorry cjkcjk… is that all you got hillbilly queer bait?
Read it and weap you two stupid F’n IDIOTS… LMAO @ U
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South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem announces statewide hydroxychloroquine trial
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Skankie Michelle just can’t handle the truth… so she projects her STUPIDITY… LMAO @ U
Cheese and crackers for two… how about it WHINERS?
Don T is a fool….
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Chloroquine is an ionophore… which pierces the lipid fat layer to get the zinc into the virion…
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This
zinc + ionophore approach was successfully tested on the deadly
SARS-coronavirus that struck human populations in Asia in 2003-2004 and
was also found to be effective against coxsackievirus, foot-and-mouth
disease, and rhinoviruses (cold viruses).
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Zinc
alone only reduced viral replication by ~50% due to the lack of
solubility of this trace mineral and its subsequent inability to be
transported across the lipid (fatty) cell wall.
Responses by tweedle de and tweedle DUMBER… LMAO
over 100,000 contracted cancer from a bad monkey blood based “vaccine”… my father went deaf from a bad batch of “flu” vaccine (government later found 50,000 bad doses)… the government admitted both… but how many others have they covered up??? YOU FOOLS
go for it inbred twins… you both are PATHETIC…
The family reunion of inbred mindless hillbillies… LMAO
a ho down of the low downs… all friends in low places… LMAO @ U
projecting your delusions of grandeur again skank??
The knuckle draggers CUM together… LMAO @ U… soon ‘ll need a cattle truck… I own you
I am 67… had every kind of measles there are, tetanus, strep dozens of times… NEVER had a flu shot and never get the flu.. take echinacia for T-cell production and. have taken ZINC for 40 years. If you had a clue how a virion replicates you would possibly understand…
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Follow the money… $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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ChiCom Phony Tony was screaming out 1.5 MILLION to die of Ebola… Monsanto jumped in and said they needed $300 MILLION for the vaccine they wanted to “TEST”… which was going to be manufactured in Ames, Iowa… until people figured out it was a SCAM and a PLANNED-demic…
the hillbilly brother and sister team are IDIOT TROLLS…
tisk tisk little skankie… you brother will be back soon to munch on your carpet… LMAO @ U… I own you
There is a place for some vaccines. What I don’t like about today’s vaccines are they are allot STRONGER than they were years ago.
OR how many bad batches the public have been dosed with… over 100,000 contracted cancer from bad monkey blood serums… my father went deaf from a bad batch of flu vaccines… Go for it you fools… give your body the right tools and it will work to survive…
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Chloroquine is an ionophore… which pierces the lipid fat layer to get the zinc into the virion…
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This
zinc + ionophore approach was successfully tested on the deadly
SARS-coronavirus that struck human populations in Asia in 2003-2004 and
was also found to be effective against coxsackievirus, foot-and-mouth
disease, and rhinoviruses (cold viruses).
<<>>
Zinc
alone only reduced viral replication by ~50% due to the lack of
solubility of this trace mineral and its subsequent inability to be
transported across the lipid (fatty) cell wall.
the brother/sister lovers are at it again… LMAO @ U… I own you
Also the patentability is far more important than the efficacy.
The British Crown patented the cov-2 virus… which means they can collect a royalty from any vaccines…
Pathetically IGNORANT=cjkcjk
Same here. I grew up in the 50’s and 60’s and remember getting all of those childhood vaccines.
Standing in line in the gym to receive the “sugar cube”.
Memories….of a very different time.
I got sugar cubes and the small pox scab vaccine… if you check… there were hundreds of thousands who got cancer from bad batches of monkey serum… This is a PLANNED-demic by the ChiCom’s, elites, Soros, Gates and the bank$ters to make a power play on the world..
the brother sister inbred hillbillies are at it again… LMAO
The knuckle dragging duo are back at it again… just posting negatives to be malicious… PATHETIC… LMAO @ U… I own you hillbillys
cjkcjk and rebugger are IDIOTS… additionally many died from defective vaccines created from minced up mouse brains used in a flu vaccine…
So did I, and I don’t remember that many vaccines. There were a few. But in particular, nothing for measles, mumps or chicken pox, because I had them and so did everyone else in the neighborhood, with no problems. There were “mumps parties” for girls to make sure they had it, so they would not get it when they were older and pregnant and endanger their babies.
downvoter is a TROLL…
and so is ITS inbred knuckle dragging cousin/girlfriend Michelle…
LMAO @ U… I own you skankie
So what… I remember hiding under my desk during a drill… that wouldn’t save your ASS-etts either…
skankie and her queer bait brother at it again
dog meat skank Michelle is at it again… LMAO @ U… I own you skank…
I’m 71 and I also had dpt. smallpox, and polio vaccines in the 50s for which I am grateful. That was then but this is now and a lot has changed. For one thing vaccine development is a big business and greed rules the roost. Salk and the developers of the old vaccines were interested in the development of a tool to save lives. Gates is interested in developing a product that can make him even richer and thanks to the microchips he will load into the needle when it is injected, having the power to surveil your life.
EXACTLY… and include nano particle time bombs… Gates is a member of the Eugenics Society… his father-was the chairman, Rockefeller and many other “elitists”… they advocate KILLING 60% of the worlds population… but of course that doesn’t include any of their friends or family…
LMAO @ you twins… PATHETIC INBRED S
I read of a small pharmaceutical company that makes antibodies came up with one that kills Covid-19 in 20 minutes in vitro. They were ready to start human testing. Their reporting has gone dark. Interesting.
They need more dead to promote their second phase with RFID chips, soon they will be attaching to your cell phones will be MANDATORY… GOOGLE AND APPLE both are now writing it INTO their phones…
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one guy was just on TV who went back to Taiwan to visit family… his battery went dead… withing 3 hours the cops were knocking on his door… tracking and the NEW GREEN DEAL… then onto AGENDA 2020 and the host of other NWO agenda’s.. Satan is alive and well…
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1984… a few years late…
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ZINC stops all forms of virion REPLICATION… this is a known and published science for more than 20 years…
Why did you get a measles vaccine if you’re 65? That wasn’t required for those born before 1957.
I am slightly younger than you and proudly had measles, received a week or so out of school, and now have lifetime immunity.
I had every type of measles… 3 day, German, etc…. I have NATURAL anti-bodies… not toxins…
By crankie…it’s skanie and her inbred brother back at it again… posting malicious negatives only shows everyone what a beotch you are… LMAO @ U
IDIOT
You’re just mad because they haven’t made a vaccine for AIDS. LOL!
Sure queer bait… did your trannie wife CUM up with that inbred hillbilly BS??
I hit a nerve with the truth! Ha, ha, ha.
You must have way too high of a self opinion of yourself… your trannie wife do that to you?? LMAO @ U
How original little queer bait… your trannie wife help you write that??
Keyboard Hero. A real pity that you cannot say that to his face eh?
Exactly… beotch slapping in real life is fun too..
tisk tisk now little skankie… your anger is getting the best of you… LMAO @ U
SM (skankie Michelle) is a troll FREAK…LMAO @ U
OK carpet munch-er… I see you’re still in denial… LMAO @ U
They were curing polio three years before the salk vaccine came out with megadose vitamin C given intravenously. It doesn’t have the terrible side effects that the salk vaccine has, either. The problem is that vitamin C is not patentable. That’s the same problem with HCQ.
Save your hillbilly BS for someone who cares… my father lost his hearing bc of defective flu vaccines in the 70’s… over 100,000 contracted cancer from bad monkey blood vaccines…
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anybody who up votes you deserve to get the Fauci/Gates cocktail… and RFID chip…
Such a pleasant individual. Imagine how long he would last if he was this “brave” in real life?
well I am 67 years old and never been beat yet…beotch
tisk tisk… you really need to quit using that econ-tin foil for your hats… it;s definitely not working for you Michelle… LMAO @ U… I own you
how about try me beaotch…
Ohh you big nasty he-man you!
In reality such as you would have no teeth if you tried it in RL as IMO you are just a classical keyboard warrior and gutless wimp in RL. There are so many such as you as your kind are scarcely unique and like rats infest the internet.
Oh really says some skankie little inbred hillbilly beotch… just more of your mindless
ASS-umptions while you hide behind your keyboard… and are a COWARD who even hides “IT’S” comments LMAO @ U
No that is you… a gutless COWARD who hides ITS comments … you skankie little inbred hillbilly that keeps making the she-it treats… you really are a PATHETIC excuse for a human… but then you inbred hillbilly knuckle draggers are all alike…. LMAO @ U… I own you…
sure little skank… blather your hillbilly BS… typical DEMO-crap commie…
Little skankie beotch… and COWARD… who hides behind ITS keyboard… show us your hidden comments…. PATHETIC LITTLE BEOTCH… LMAO @ U… I own you
Poor whammie some horrible woman hurt his feelings and he cannot cope with one who disagrees with him. If you are this abusive in RL no wonder you sit by your keyboard alone 16hrs/day. I did note your racist comments towards others but then we all expected that from such as you as you are scarcely unique: just one of many abusive inferiors online.
My condolences as it must be a lonely life. You own nothing and no one.
Poor little skank… is that all you got?,… you can’t even make a descent projection in your delusions of grandeur… I am sitting here working on a book to be released on Amazon… I have two computers… one for my online searches and taunting you… little skank >>> LOL…
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MY book is nearly completed… just got my ISBN numbers and bar codes… but you are too frickin’ stupid to read… so that’s all alphabet soup to you…
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I have a very full life… two sons and a large following of astute REAL AMERICANS… not like the COMMIE skank you are.
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as far as suresh… if he knew what he was talking about and English was his first language … maybe he could carry on a conversation… is he your other inbred brother from a different mother??? LMAO @ U… I own you..
Blowing your own trumpet? Most people grow out of that at about 16 but not you. Little do you realize that you are just one of many such clones who troll the internet trying to salvage some ego from the shattered delusions. of failure.
Oh well! Do keep trying as entertainment is lacking right now.
BTW please define “skank”. I realize that it may be a familiar word to you and yours but I don’t know it. While I am sure that it is something disgustingly insulting I would like to know your view.
Ohh and some more varied insults would be nice as you are becoming repetitively boring..I mean “Hillbilly skank?” or “trannie” Surely you can do better? No??
Oh well.
Are you jealous??? look up skank… or have your momma do it for you your crustie old senile inbred…
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Yes… I was being to worry that my laughs were done for the day… but got 3 pages of bio written without your blathering cryptic lunacy to interrupt me…
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Ya’ll hillbilly inbred freaks are a dime a dozen… you DEMO-craps are so predictable… and POS… LMAO @ U… I own you… little skank..
you could blow me… but wouldn’t want your brothers STD’s…
I’ll bet crabbie is your trannie sister… you hillbilly trolls are so predictable… I would think based on your IGNORANCE… North Carolina… LMAO @ U,,, little skankie.. I own you
COWARD… so your job is the door mat at the senile/senior citizens center??
Poor little skankie…
Do you give BJ’s with that Whine you serve?? LMAO @ U… skankie… I own you
I would be willing to bet you are some east coast senile old DEMO-crap commie freak w/o a life… like most who use your form of blather deflections and narcissism…
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Tisk tisk skank… you are PATHETIC… LMAO @ U… I own you
Well you senile old hillbilly inbred… are you from N Carolina or S. C…??? you DEMO-crap hillbilly freaks are all alike and so predictable… I’m going to need to block you so I can get some work done… and my stomach hurts from laughing at you so much… LMAO @ U…. I own you
Is she… a she-it trannie… tough beotch???
LMAO @ U SKANKIE… I own you
Oh you big nasty trannie girlie man… LMAO @ U I own you skank
Typical DEMO-crap response from skankie and her inbred cousin
Don T is an arm chair fool… over 100,000 contracted cancer from bad monkey vaccinations. My father went deaf from a batch of 50,000 bad doses of “flu” vaccine…
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Chloroquine is an ionophore… which pierces the lipid fat layer to get the zinc into the virion…
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This zinc + ionophore approach was successfully tested on the deadly SARS-coronavirus that struck human populations in Asia in 2003-2004 and was also found to be effective against coxsackievirus, foot-and-mouth disease, and rhinoviruses (cold viruses).
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Zinc alone only reduced viral replication by ~50% due to the lack of solubility of this trace mineral and its subsequent inability to be transported across the lipid (fatty) cell wall.
You’re just pissed because they don’t have a cure for the AIDS you got butt injected with. LOL!
Say hello to your trannie wife for me… you two should CUM out of the closet…LMAO
I hit a nerve with the truth! Ho, ho, ho, you homo. LOL!
are you talking to your trannie wife??? or looking on the mirror…??
LMAO @ U
You’re such a weirdo I’m actually laughing
Me too… you should be in Riley’s Believe It or Not as the Dumbest FREAK on Discus… LMAO @ U
DEAL! I’ll go in Riley’s and you can go in Ripley’s . Ha, ha, ha, ha, you’re a laugh.
FOOL… I keep laughing at you… not with you… but you’re too stupid to know the difference… but hey… when you have an IQ of room temp… I can’t expect much… LMAO @ U
Typo… am I bad… beotch slapping a couple others at the same time…
really your projecting to deflect your queer ness is a joke… why don’t you and your trannie wife just CUM out of the closet… LMAO @ U
Is that all you got queer bait??? I’ll wait… LMAO @ U
Skankie Michelle is at it again…she is too much of a FOOL… to realize this treatment is published science that has been around for 20 years… but her inimical ego projects here STUPIDITY… LMAO @ U
Michelle is a hubris little FREAK…
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How about this you pathetic-FREAK-O..??.
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South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem announces statewide hydroxychloroquine trial
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Little skankie Michelle… where should I send the cheese and crackers to go along with your whine??? LMAO @ U
And they were connected to HRC.
How interesting!
The explanation of why Fauci and the other bureaucrats are fighting the hydroxychloroquine treatment is that Big Pharma and the scientific research establishment do not like the fact that ah entire course of Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, and Zinc cost around $20 and it is a came-changer that has come along too soon. For Big Pharma a cheap generic drug is anathema. They want to sell a patented drug for several hundred dollars per treatment. For the research establishment they are protecting a stream of income in the form of grants to develop those patented medicines and other projects. For Fauci and the other bureaucrats at CDC and FHA they expect a quid pro quo from both the companies and the research establishment either in the form of kickbacks or the promise of cashing in on a cushy job or consulting business in the future that pays extremely well.
Was Cankles Clinton in Canada at all in December 2017 ???
If you look at Gates net worth… this month it has went up $5 BILLION dollars… he is a vaccine manufacturer… and nanoparticle euthanizer…
Gates is as bad as the Clintons. People like him should be hogtied and stood before a tribunal, that will never happen of course because of his extreme wealth, close political ties and his numerous multi million dollar bunkers scattered around the world. My thoughts” He’s gotta come out sooner or later”
Gates owns the WHO with the ChiComs
if this were a war and battlefield doctors – no let’s make that if muslim doctors in the desert were working on a cure, they would think it was the second coming…hey NPR if you were sick would you take it or die to get Trump first?
Its not NPR. They are part of the corrupt mafia paid by crooked Pharma co’s who wanted to push their new drug and make Billions . Now if 80 year safe , proven to be safe medicine cures covid …….all their overpriced drugs will go for a toss.
So they run this false propaganda.
And the corrupt FDA that banned these companies on frivilous grounds to stop low cost Generic drugs from being sold to American patients , have been forced to allow the very same companies to export from India.
And their carefully planned scamming of patients with drugs , vaccines that would have cost 20x , 100x times more cannot be done if these proven generic drugs from India would be used.
And get this. These are companies that have been exporting these drugs for over 20 – 45 years to all countries with no quality issues unlike chinese “medicines”.
but in America , chinese medicines are sold as they bribe FDA , Indian co’s are forbidden to bribe as they can be prosecuted.
That should explain it.
Any non-prescription cure will be scoffed at… aspirin was first derived from the bark of the willow tree and Bayer made a synthetic version… Quinine was first derived also from a tree bark I believe… Big Pharma, Soros, Gates and the bank$ters don’t make money from a non-prescription CURE…
Exactly.
Not sure how 140 died from socialism ?!
Its more like 14 – 20 Million from communism/maoism/socialism
100,000,000 died in Russia alone… learn world history… then E. Germany. Chech., Bosnia, Yugo, Romania, Cambodia, N. Vietnam, N. Korea, China… MILLIONS, Cuba, Ven. and hundreds of other skirmishes…
!00 million did not die in the former USSR you freak. Closer to about 50 million and that would be lower for only Russia.
Settle down Cletus because they’re working on an AIDS vaccine for your butt injection..
You are an inbred idiot and know zip about history… you need to get your trannie wife’s dick out of your mouth so you can make some sense
You are an historical ignoramus…………….oh and a sodomite too.
Did you momma help you find that big word ..PUNK? LMAO @ U
Actually it’s from the book of Genesis and had come to describe people of your sexual perversion.
It’s frowned upon by your community today which is in part why I use the term.
It piss’s your trannie wife off? is that what you’re saying?
100 Years of Communism—and 100 Million Dead
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The Bolshevik plague that began in Russia was the greatest catastrophe in human history.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/100-years-of-communismand-100-million-dead-1510011810
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You commies don’t like to hear the truth… LMAO @ U
You said in Russia you sodomite but maybe that AIDS is getting to your brain.
Not even 100 million in the entire USSR you historical ignoramus.
tisk tisk now little queer bait… it’s OK to admitt your trannie wife gave you the wrong info… LMAO @ U
WOW… you really are a SPECIAL KIND OF STUPID… aren’t you… LMAO @ U
Pure Indian ignorance of the world history… you really need to read more…
BTW… 6,000,000 alone in Cambodia… GOT IT???
This is NOT SPAM… Suresh must have made a FALSE REPORT… check him out…
FOOL… I reported you for filing my comment was a spam… over 100,000,000 just by Stalin and Lenin… China, Cambodia, N. Korea, N. Vietnam, Bosnia, Yugo., Chech., Romani, E. Germany, Cuba, and dozens of other COMMUNIST expansionism’s
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TOO bad you Indians don’t learn world history…
It still does not add up to 100 Million from communism. I’m asking for facts n ot exaggerated propaganda.
And stalin sent lot of muslims who were nazi collaborators during ww2 to siberia. They deserve to die.
And what about American capitalist killing vietnAMese in their own country ? you blaming communist for that too ? typical false propaganda.
And fake WMD story to invade and kill Iraqis by America ? was that also death due to socialism ? America supported, funded, trained jihadis to attack Assad , most of them joined ISIS with weapons and killed over million. displaced 2.5 Million christians permanentlly.
Czechoslovakia , clinton attacked chrsitian serbians in support of muslims jihadis. was that also death due to socialism ?
Go back and take your GED… you can’t write English or spell English… so how would I expect you know anything about world history??… maybe if you could add… you would realize it is probably a couple hundred million in the past 100 years… LMAO @ U
you are just a brainwashed hillybilly.
Even the most exaggerated claim are of 20 million dead in USSR . Not including another 20 million dead during WW2 fighting nazis which cannot be attributed to communism in USSR.
There were many capitalist collaborator from USA who funded nazis during initial phase .
so should we put that death during WW2 to capitalist ? …or is it 50% to each side ?
You are a brainwashed Bangladeshi untouchable… who can’t spell or write a complete sentence… FO
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You quote no sources… just your backward Indian ASS-umptions… GET LOST
I can quote sources. But neither have you.
And why educate a hilly billy loon ? Go check sources yourself & educate yourself.
Obviously you have reading comprehension problems since you read the quote I provided you… you little untouchable freak…
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You are a pathetic COWARD…
That is just B.S propaganda for hilly billies like you.
where is 100 Million dead in USSR ? source ?
I already sent it to you… you little brown turd… UNTOUCHABLE
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BTW… IDIOT… it is “hillbilly”… not “hilly billies” … LMAO @ U
Where is evidence of 100 Million killed in USSR ?
Where are your references little brown turd??? I sent you one of mine… obviously you UNTOUCHABLES cannot read… LMAO @ U
Where is yours that there wasn’t… little brown turd… LMAO @ U
Typical hillybilly nutcase response. you got no evidence . Just hype master.
Show us your proof… I’ll wait
Show me yours…. I have already shown you mine…
you showed nothing but B.S.
Hey hillybilly , you made the false claim , you need to prove it
IDIOT… learn English… it is not “hilly billy”… LMAO @ U
BC you are a COWARD and a liar…
save it untouchable… GET LOST
Reading comprehension problems??? For the tenth time MORON… it is “hillbilly”… not “hilly billy”… LMAO @ U
Do you know what a noun is or what capitalization is??
Suresh reported the post as a spam… because he was wrong… INVESTIGATE HIM…
You’d make a good governor of Michigan
You’d make a good untouchable in Bangladesh…
It was a lot more than that but……………………………..I’m NOT thinking you’re an idiot.
You are right. It was 60 million in China in the early 1950s but that ignores the millions in the actual war of “liberation” and those millions killed in the cultural revolution. In the USSR no one really knows the exact figure(like the dead of WW2) but over 100 million is probably not far off. We know that the Ukraine famines killed 6 or 8 million but the figures for the civil war and the “clean up” are not known . Nor are the figures for the deaths from forced resettlement in Siberia known although carpets of frozen bodies have been recorded. The death toll in the purges was not that high but its sequelae in the disasters of WW2 again thanks to Communism and Stalin are near 37 million alone(IMO Stalin was pre-empted by Hitler in his attack by one week)
I don’t think Stalin would have attacked Hitler first. He would have had to be sure of victory and would have waited till Germany was exhausted by war with The West and then move in to collect territory. He didn’t even attack Japanese Manchuria as he had promised the USA and UK until after Hiroshima, but…………………I’m NOT thinking you’re an idiot. LOL!
Read Suvorov’s “The Chief Culprit”. My maternal great grandfather was seconded to dealing with Wehrmacht archives after WW2(he was horrified initially and wanted to resign his commission)he went through divisional reports after divisional report of the opening of the war in the east he nor the troops could not understand why the red army dispositions were as they were as they were so vulnerable to attack…that is UNLESS they intended to attack Germany. The Suvorov book “IceBreaker” actually is the code name for such an attack as Stalin expected Germany and France to be bogged down in a WW1 trench scenario and when he was ready he would charge in from behind crush Germany and France and take all of Europe. The sudden fall of France made him accelerate madly and that was why he bent over backwards towards German demands. In the opinion of my GGF Hitler beat him by a week or two which was why Stalin lost the plot for 2 weeks as he simply refused to believe that Germany would be stupid/brave enough to open a second front.
The red army victory was far closer than many realize and war colleges that play the scenario verify that even with the size and population of the USSR it was not cut and dried by any means. TBH I never knew what my GGF was talking about until my GFather dropped the above books onto me(I only read the first one as that was enough) and as I had opened my big mouth I had no choice. The evidence cited is impressive but DO NOTE that 99% of WW2 historians are Leftists and wont have a bar of it. And they ignore or insult it almost everywhere.
There is no doubt that Hitler intended to attack the USSR . But a second front had almost destroyed Germany in WW1 and so Stalin really did not expect it until the UK had been nullified and the UK warning of the attack was taken as an attempt to undermine Nazi/soviet relations. Hitler was forced to attack as he had no choice..all not PC even now.
I am a bit rusty here as it was my forced History area and I really did not wish to do it but had no choice.
Well you’re definitely right about WWII history being twisted by leftists and their biggest twist is when they assert that the NAZIS were right wing. Their policies and name were all totally socialist. They hated free capitalism, and their policies were socialist. The left likes to confuse corporate, crony, capitalism with true capitalism. The NAZI high command was riddled with homosexuals and pagans just as modern leftism is. I still have great doubts about Stalin attacking Germany especially after the spectacular German military successes in 1940 and 1941, They also had a Japanese presence in the far east and the political situation in America looked like there was no way it was going to war anytime soon. Russia had been severely humiliated by Japan in 1905 so they respected Japanese capabilities. As far as a plan to come in and attack Germany from behind during a trench stalemate in France, I have no doubt Stalin had that intent. Germany crushing France in 6 weeks astounded the entire world at the time.
Hmm I was just about to leave and like a fool I checked : (
I can answer all of that with fact but it must wait until tomorrow
apologies.
Japan was part of the Axis. As such it had an agreement with
Germany to attack the USSR. When Germany attacked first they found everything on the front line ready for the soviet attack, men, munitions, aircraft, supplies, AFVs artillery. Now, unless you intend to attack very soon, militarily you NEVER do that as it makes it impossible to defend and then counterattack. That was why the first German attacks were so successful and so easy.
Now you have missed the Zhukov operation in 1938-9 in
Mongolia and specifically Khalkin-Gol where his armour literally tore the
Japanese Army to shreds. He could have continued and taken most of Manchuria with ease but Stalin did not want a real war with Japan with Germany worrying him in the west. This was solved by the Nuremberg ignored Moscow-Berlin pact which gave Stalin much more territory(Baltic states, eastern Poland, Bessarabia etc but it also meant that he had to
move his border defences up to the new line and build new defences. The latter never received much attention..Funny that! With Germany on the other side and Mein Kampf readily available to read.
Instead they packed the border with assault troops, armour,artillery and attack aircraft, scarcely the actions of someone intending to defend.
At this time the phoney war was running, but when France collapsed so quickly a panic set in and some attempt to build defences. Icebreaker was based upon Germany becoming bogged down in trench warfare in the west so that Stalin could sit back and pick the perfect moment to attack Germany from behind and run over the whole of Europe and that was his stated intention.
However, when Germany turned its eyes on the UK the border
continued to fill up with attack formations. However the 1938 Red army purges had badly affected the middle ranking officers more than the high ranking ones and infantry divisions were not well trained while soviet AFVs were poor(T34 and KV1 excluded…3% of the total in 1941 May) and poorly used. Most aircraft were obsolete also. In number it was the largest defence force on the planet and equivalent to the next 5 in total numbers.
When Germany failed to win the Battle of Britain and the invasion deferred eventually permanently, Stalin knew he was running out of
time but viewed all allied decrypts of German plans as attempts to pull him in too early. When Germany struck into the Balkans and Greece and the Aegean he actually relaxed thinking that he had them now and he set the date for the attack.
This is where it becomes hazy as there is no documentation on this and one would expect that from the “honest” communists. Hitler who was really annoyed by the necessity to take the Balkans and Greece as it lost him 6 weeks of good weather and it is possible that Stalin played a part in this as he had numerous agents in Yugoslavia including an advisor to the then king and he wanted the time himself.
The movement of the troops and armoured divisions involved
in the Balkans and back was so rushed that the men were tired and the vehicles needed service..this explains so much about December 1941 where both simply faded in the snow even before the Siberian troops arrived.
Now as a part of his 1933 New Deal FDR opened up many new federal
bureaucracies and I have often wondered who was responsible for the selection of candidates there as it is guesstimated that 10% were soviet sleeper agents.
This was not just confined to lower echelons but all the way to the top where Harry Hopkins the chief mediator with the USSR committed many treasonous dealings with them. But IMO he was a scapegoat as all were at the direct order of FDR who IMO was a communist sympathiser.
When Japan attacked China the atrocities even shocked the
Nazis and the USA threatened sanctions if Japan continued. They were ignored. Now this is where is becomes muddy as an oil embargo could have been introduced far earlier than it was but it was not (The USA suppled most of Japans oil).
What is interesting here IMHO is that the USA under FDR appeared
to reverse its attitude politically towards China, the home of the “yellow
peril” funny that! The US oil embargo only came into effect after Germany
invaded the USSR. Why was this? it was extremely convenient timing for Stalin as it forced Japan to attack into SEA and the pacific to gain the Borneo oil as the ME was no available as well. To do so, required that they negate the USA in the Philippines and in Hawaii. This meant that NO possible attack on Siberia as promised was possible. Stalin IMO organized this via FDR or Hopkins as the timing was too perfect and he knew this the same day that it was decided by the Japanese as Richard Sorge an attaché in the German embassy was a soviet spy.
This allowed Stalin to pull out his well trained , well equipped Siberian divisions who saved the bacon before Moscow. All rather convenient for Stalin.
Stalin went into a tailspin for 2 weeks after the invasion and gave no advice, no help and no orders this was the effect it had. He had been pre-empted and he knew it. I have no doubt of this this is why I believe it. Only Hitler could defeat Stalin and vice versa as no democratic county could handle the necessary casualties as we are too soft and they both knew it. IMO Stalin was the lesser evil but now we suffer the fruits of his 1930s invasion of the west.
I agree with most of what you say as accurate but don’t believe for a minute that Japan was ever going to actually attack the USSR. Just because the Russians did indeed inflict some defeats on the Japanese in Mongolia doesn’t negate the danger of Japanese attack in the eyes of Stalin. I remind that the petroleum embargo didn’t take place until after Germany had already attacked the USSR.
I’m not going to doubt the amount of collusion bordering on treason that the FDR administration engaged in with ‘Uncle Joe’.
I still don’t believe Stalin was going to attack what during the summer of 1941 seemed to be an almost invincible well oiled, well led machine like the German Army appeared to be. The German success in Yugoslavia and especially far off Greece and Crete was impressive considering the terrain and logistics involved and couldn’t be lost on Russian eyes.
If Napoleon could take Moscow from Paris a hundred and thirty years earlier, what might Hitler achieve from Berlin? I think Stalin was terrified of the German potential and his actions appear to back that. They were delivering crucial raw materials to Germany up to the attack and Stalin was still purging the Red Army.
Read the books(Icebreaker in an online pdf) before you comment further as we otherwise waste both of our times but do note that 99% of WW2 historians are Leftists and biased WRT Stalin and it is impossible to have any view not contaminated by them. I was lucky as I knew about this before I read them.
Well I haven’t rejected anything you’ve said as ridiculous or impossible at all. I mean the Left would have very strong motives to cover up any evidence that the USSR was planning such an attack. I know the NAZI-Soviet Pact and the annexation of the Baltic States, Eastern Poland and Bessarabia were serious PR problems for the lefties at the time. Probably no one in the FDR administration wanted the German invasion to look like a preemptive attack in any way, shape, or form. I think we can agree that the Left is a bunch of lying, despicable, totalitarians and I for one hate everything about them.
My apologies if I sounded rude as I did not mean to so do. We still have NOT had unfettered access to all soviet records and those released that were negative towards Stalin had political value (Katyn Wood etc.) for those in charge at the time. I doubt that we will ever find the truth as communism like islam and the Left do not value truth unless it fist their narrative. But if you read Stalin’s speeches in the 1930s you will see what I mean about his plans WRT Europe. I wont bother you any more as my busy time nears. Thank you for the interest.
You weren’t bothering me at all. I value sane arguments with people who have a grip on reality. I have NO doubt that Stalin’s plans for Europe were a lot more expansive and worse than what he eventually accomplished. When asked about any satisfaction with taking Berlin, Stalin replied that Tsar Alexander got to Paris. I will add that in my opinion FDR and his administration was one of the worst in US history and I consider him Stalin’s dupe. If Hitler perpetrated the Katyn Woods murderous political atrocity, every schoolboy would have been taught about it. I could go on and on but thanks for the intelligent discussion and oh…………………..I don’t think you’re an idiot.
I agree with most of what you say as accurate but don’t believe for a minute that Japan was ever going to actually attack the USSR. Just because the Russians did indeed inflict some defeats on the Japanese in Mongolia doesn’t negate the danger of Japanese attack in the eyes of Stalin. I remind that the petroleum embargo didn’t take place until after Germany had already attacked the USSR.
I’m not going to doubt the amount of collusion bordering on treason that the FDR administration engaged in with ‘Uncle Joe’.
I still don’t believe Stalin was going to attack what during the summer of 1941 seemed to be an almost invincible well oiled, well led machine like the German Army appeared to be. The German success in Yugoslavia and especially far off Greece and Crete was impressive considering the terrain and logistics involved and couldn’t be lost on Russian eyes.
If Napoleon could take Moscow from Paris a hundred and thirty years earlier, what might Hitler achieve from Berlin? I think Stalin was terrified of the German potential and his actions appear to back that. They were delivering crucial raw materials to Germany up to the attack and Stalin was still purging the Red Army.
100 Years of Communism—and 100 Million Dead
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The Bolshevik plague that began in Russia was the greatest catastrophe in human history.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/100-years-of-communismand-100-million-dead-1510011810
Michelle is a little skank hillbilly who posts negatives just to be vendictive,,, Get a life… LMAO @ U
yada yada yada… skankie COWARD and stalker Beotchchelle is at it again…. LMAO @ you… I own you
No it was not. It was the second worst as islam has killed more and for a lot longer. Just look at how many Hindus alone were murdered.
Ohh so you know, do you? I Protecting muslims are we?
I do not need to cut and paste anything. as I already know.
Go and read some Hindu history. Then look at the African slave numbers and their fates and all of those in Nth Africa and the ME and Europe who were killed from 632 until now. Islam is virtually communism with a belief structure and as such is superior as a repressive control mechanism for humans and is exactly what the globalists want. Communism now is just a step on the way.
I waste my time reasoning with a delusional, foul mouthed, ratbag.
Not hardly FREAK… I find the Islamic cult even more repulsive than you… just more of your mindless rants… Islam is a stratocratic CULT of fear, hate and DEATH. Mohammad was a phony.
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LMAO @ U… I own you
MIchelle is a pathetic commie FREAK
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LMAO @ U I own you
NOT SPAM…obviously little stalking skank MIchelle reported it as… I will now report her… LMAO @ U I own you
You have it back assed wards… like all of your other BS… The Islamic cult was around LONG before communism… as a rug head you should know your own history…
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But hey you stupid hillbillies can’t deal with FACTS… which you have shown that OVER AND OVER AND OVER again… LMAO @ U
You plagiarize… so you might as well cut and paste you COWARD…
LMAO @ U
Exactly what??? That you Indians don’t know world history?
You are not sure what day it is… LMAO @ U
Michelle and cjkcjk… are the inbred hillbilly twins who just don’t get it… they would cut off their noses to spite their faces… MORONS… LMAO @ U FOOLS.
No it’s just you and your obnoxious, over aggressive , rude internet projection.
But don’t let truth worry you and take your medication like a good boy.
What is so funny is that you really have to be a RL coward to vent like this in the safety of the internet where you can insult for 16.hrs/day in the safety of your basement.
Projecting again about yourself… tisk tisk little beotch… go take your meds… just more of your hubris blather… I look forward to beotch slapping you… and a good laugh… LMAO @ U… I own you
Latest scam… if anyone is hooked onto a ventilator… whether for 10 minutes or 10 days… the hospital bills Medicare $39,000 (the cost of the unit) to be done over and over… to burn up all the money Congress appropriated and WE the People will see ZIP…
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It’s no wonder Cuomo wanted 50,000 units. an audit needs to be done by the DOJ. The CDC has been cooking the books… claiming anyone who has died… died from the corona virus… In NYC EVERYDAY at least 150 people die… EVERYDAY…
Of course they are… the ChiCom WHO and the big pharma bank$ters loose control and don’t make any money $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
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Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/
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There are literally hundreds of other cites which PROVE ZINC and ionophores CURE …ALL… Virus’s… not just ChiCom Cov-2
Tisk tsk Don T… i’m sure your commie buddies still have a job opening for you… posting a negative only proves what a POS you are…
NPR and the other MSM outlets are obeying their masters. The US economy must be crushed and the population cowed completely and enrolled in a national vaccination program with ID cards and tracking. The success of a generic drug that won’t even provide a profit is not wanted.
Big Pharma wants big trials to check everything so they have a better alternative one day. Hoping Big Pharma will have a better solution than hydroxychloroquine. Hydroxychloroquine is cheap, Big Pharma solution will be overexpensive.
Saying “NO” to anything that helps, helps them prolong their exploitation of the crisis. Dems being Dims. Media being The Enemy.
Helps them in this PLANNED-demic power grab…
If Trump was against it, the left radicals would say he was causing more deaths.
Medical procedures that liberals love are those that result in death like abortion. Life is disconcerting for liberals.
Quinine, in use since the 1600s, still considered an unproven drug 🙂
Says you… I have hundreds of research abstracts which say other wise…
Seriously who cares? You are so blatantly rude that no one will take any notice of you so you can sit and ponder your “hundreds of research abstracts ” alone. However If I were you. I would IGNORE the abstracts and read the actual papers. You might find out how to publish without offending as it is rather obvious that you have never done so.
KMA… skank… is that offensive enough for you??
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The abstract I have are the complete cites… something some hillbilly wouldn’t comprehend… I really don’t care what you think… GOT IT!
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Save your soap box narcissism for somebody who cares…
Liar! An abstract is a summarised condensation of a research paper which provides the bare details of the work.
Take your Lithium and climb down off your high horse.
You are so pathetic… want me to send you the links SKANK so you can open some up yourself>>> the abstract is a condensed portion of the cites to brief one on the concepts… within the cites… GOT IT??? maybe have your mom read it to you… you are such an arrogant little hubris skank…
Touched a nerve did I sonny? Well when you grow up (if you do) you might understand.
No nerves touched … here… just laughing at you so hard… it’s hard to type…
Sure! How is your fragile little ego? Not good at handling dissension are you” How old are you? 14? or 10 and reading daddy’s journals.
Is that all you got little beotch?… go back to momma’s basement… little X Z FREAK… LMAO @ U
Not hardly skankie… LMAO @ U
He’s mad because they haven’t come with a vaccine for AIDS yet.
Wow! It can copy paste from a journal. My what an intellect!
From the cites… these are all ref from just one cites…beotch… LMAO @ U
They certainly are laughing at this end. Take your lithium and be quiet like a good little boy.
You hillbillies havin’ a good ole whore down… LMAO @ U
Say the guy with a Dogpatch name . No doubt hoping for a “Double”.
Speak English… it is the first language in America…LMAO @ U
I am not responsible for your ignorance. You are!
You have your hands full with your own… it’s it time for your meds and you to go munch some carpet??? LMAO @ U
You have enough of your own for both of us… LMAO @ U
When is your frontal lobotomy scheduled? Soon I hope… LMAO @ U
What and finish up like you?
Wishful thinking on your part… your IQ is barely room temp…LMAO @ U
So yours is bigger than mine? Get out of the school toilet you child!
Haven’t you heard… schools are closed… you must be hanging out in Target with your GF… you should keep it in your bedroom… LMAO @ U
tisk tsk little skankie… too much for your momma to read to you… they are all from this one cites..
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PLoS Pathog. 2010 Nov; 6(11): e1001176.
Published online 2010 Nov 4. doi: 10.1371/journal.ppat.1001176
PMCID: PMC2973827
PMID: 21079686
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Zn2+ Inhibits Coronavirus and Arterivirus RNA Polymerase Activity In Vitro and Zinc Ionophores Block the Replication of These Viruses in Cell Culture.
Ohh Bold! How incisive! The more you rave the more we all laugh. Find the journal in the hospital waiting room did you?
tisk tisk little skankie… we are laughing at U 2… wondering who someone can be so pathetically stupid… and still chew gum…
Says the narcissist! Don’t reply then if you do not care.
You are one of these COWARDS who hides all their worthless comments from scrutiny… get a life… you are pathetic…
Thanks for that I never thought to check up on you until you reminded me.
I was certainly correct about you wasn’t I ? It is rather obvious that your frail ego is having problems that only personal abuse can satisfy and your past posts are full of such insults scattered in all directions: it is your trademark and yet you wish to be taken seriously here. You have no idea. But do keep entertaining us all as you will find some equal trash mouths here.
that you… thank you very much… I do enjoy beotch slamming you inbred hillbilly know it all… until I get bored and BLOCK you…
Go ahead an block me as that is the act of a coward and a liar. Funny how you actually define the insults that you throw.
You are like the hillbilly calling the kettle black… open up your comment section little skank COWARD… LMAO @ U
and yet you call yourself “whammie”. What is that? A name in Dogpatch USA?
Too deep for your shallow hillbilly skank mind… LMAO @ U
You are a hubris COWARD… why not let everyone see your comments… smart ass!
Says a mindless little skank… who conceals her commie posts… pathetic… BTW… I ponder nothing alone… I have several other REAL sites where intelligent people converse… I have the whole cites… and a background in virology, mycology, micro-biology and various BLS applications… and you??? I’ll wait… only thing I see is a hillbilly degree in BS…
You are so full of it. Pulled that out of thin air did you? You are the perfect example of someone who projects his/her faults onto others then accuses them of the same faults. I guess that you cannot really help it but mummy never ever taught you any manners did she?
Tisk tisk little skank… Go take your meds and go back to your mom’s basement and play video games…
Yours must have taught you how to be a beotch
You had better settle down as the mania is beginning to show. Take your tablets look in the mirror and go to bed.
“tables”… is that hillbilly for tablets??? LMAO @ U FREAK
Make your mind up on the insults as they contradict each other.
Pathetic hubris little skank… can’t even use the right word … then tries to deflect from her own IGNORANCE…LMAO @ U
COWARDS hide their posts… show us yours”’ I’ll wait…LMAO @ U
Do you want some cheese and crackers with your whine??? LMAO @ U
Any advice from such as you is worthless.
tisk tsik little skank… your deflections are meaningless to me as well… LMAO @ U
Awwww I am soooo upset. You define yourself by your posts. I guess that you have no choice as no reputable science group could endure you.
Sure little skank… I post on credible sites with credible and attributed cites… have your mom look up all those big words for you… since you inbred hillbillies use English as your second language… LMAO
So you tell us all and we are supposed to believe it? ROFLMAO Next you will tell us all that you have PhD in virology while a Masters in Bull effluent sounds more likely. Do you always blow your own trumpet so loudly? Do so in RL and you will receive a shock.
No Phd in virology…took those classes as electives… have three BA’s others..
LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!
I think you mean you have three BS’s in others
My wife just asked me what I’m laughing about!
Do tell us all which universities give B.A.s for science subjects. Why the need to have THREE B.A.s? You can do subjects easily without the need to complete a degree. IMO you do not tell the truth.
Awwww you define yourself by what a COWARD and a skank you are by hiding your posts… LMAO @ U
IDIOT..
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Chloroquine acts as the solvent to pass the ZINC into the vition…
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Chloroquine is an ionophore… which pierces the lipid fat layer to get the zinc into the virion…
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This
zinc + ionophore approach was successfully tested on the deadly
SARS-coronavirus that struck human populations in Asia in 2003-2004 and
was also found to be effective against coxsackievirus, foot-and-mouth
disease, and rhinoviruses (cold viruses).
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Zinc
alone only reduced viral replication by ~50% due to the lack of
solubility of this trace mineral and its subsequent inability to be
transported across the lipid (fatty) cell wall.
I just loved the bites..well done!
There is something about these anti-malaria meds. Don’t take it from me, but look up the top malaria countries. Then look up their Coronavirus numbers. They are really low. Makes me think people who take anti-malaria medication are not getting very ill from this virus. The bigger issue is the economy. President Trump has not locked down one person. He has not closed down one business. It’s the governors and other local authority that are imposing measures that will cripple this country for years if they are not reversed. NYC is bad. I get it. Bit most of the country is not. People need to protest their state government in big numbers and soon.
I glossed through an article on that too. They are wondering if people who took hydroxychloroquine for malaria, have an automatic immunity to CONVID-19.
It wasn’t a FOX article but they were wondering about it too.
Do countries with high rates of malaria have fewer coronavirus deaths?
Hollie McKay By Hollie McKay | Fox News 4/8/20
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“If you look [at the] countries where malaria is more prevalent and countries where COVID-19 infections are prevalent, you will find a striking difference. This correlation needs to be explored further as this is not just a mere coincidence,” Dr. David Nazarian, a Beverly Hills-based physician, diplomate at the American Board of Internal Medicine and founder of My Concierge MD, told Fox News.
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https://www.foxnews.com/world/do-countries-with-high-rates-of-malaria-have-fewer-coronavirus-deaths
Chloroquine is not the cure, zinc is. But the Zinc needs to get into the cell cytoplasm and it is the quinine derivatives, chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine which provide the tunnel through the cell membrane that brings the zinc inside. The zn stops the activity of a molecule that allows it to replicate and affect cell metabolism. Quinine in tonic water also works but is much less capable to put large quantities of zinc into all the cells in the human body. I use it though as I take a zonc supplement every morning and drink around 4 ounces of tonic water. I also take echinacea. I am 71, diabetic with Parkinson’s and am in stage 4 renal failure on dialysis. because of the Parkinson’s I cant take hypertension medication so I go into dialysis with high blood pressure and leave with low. According to the CDC and that fool Fauci if I am exposed I will die, so I take something to protect myself. Although I haven’t qualified for a test I had a mild bout with flu symptoms two weeks ago and plan to request an antibody test when I can.
Chloroquine is an ionophore… which pierces the lipid fat layer to get the zinc into the virion…
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This zinc + ionophore approach was successfully tested on the deadly SARS-coronavirus that struck human populations in Asia in 2003-2004 and was also found to be effective against coxsackievirus, foot-and-mouth disease, and rhinoviruses (cold viruses).
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Zinc alone only reduced viral replication by ~50% due to the lack of solubility of this trace mineral and its subsequent inability to be transported across the lipid (fatty) cell wall.
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You are an IDIOT..
And you are simply rude and obnoxious. How many sites have banned you?
They really want people to DIE and perhaps have you hold off for Bill Gate’s vaccine and REQUIRE it.
That is an awful thing to say, but what else could it be besides irrational Trump hatred.?
In my neck of the woods, ask any doctor or nurse if they would use hydroxychloroquine to treat the Chicom coronavirus. The answer, without hesitation, is yes. NPR is a mouth peace for the party of death, aka, democrat.
The deceiver they quote in the article is Katherine Seley Radtke. She recently wrote an article where she says an Arizona couple took something they had on hand, ‘to kill parasites in their fish’ after hearing the president call Hydroxychloroquine a game changer. This shows what a LIAR she is. This liar fails to mention it was clearly labeled as fish tank cleaner and that the ‘wife’ of the dead man is known as having an fierce case of TDS.
All these creeps do is lie. She also failed to accurately quote the president as saying it COULD be a game changer.
and she was a psycho on meds…
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She had filed to get a divorce a couple years prior… should be a MURDER charge.
Any network that puts YoMammy Alcindor out in public to question our President on what he’s doing to deal with this crisis in our country has no credibility whatsoever.
I hope Dr. Armstrong is giving it with zinc. Maybe that’s why they are only staying about the same.
HCQS may be an anti-inflammatory, but in this case the important action is to allow zinc to enter the ACE2 cells to disrupt the viral replication process. That is obviously less effective if the general zinc level available is insufficient.
It acts as a solvent to break through the lipid fatty layer… FAT protects this virus… this is why more blacks are dying… because of their high fat diets and obesity..
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Chloroquine is an ionophore… which pierces the lipid fat layer to get the zinc into the virion…
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This
zinc + ionophore approach was successfully tested on the deadly
SARS-coronavirus that struck human populations in Asia in 2003-2004 and
was also found to be effective against coxsackievirus, foot-and-mouth
disease, and rhinoviruses (cold viruses).
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Zinc
alone only reduced viral replication by ~50% due to the lack of
solubility of this trace mineral and its subsequent inability to be
transported across the lipid (fatty) cell wall.
Must be given with zinc!
From at least the laboratory studies I’m familiar with, it’s most important not to be “zinc deficient” for the HCQ, which is a zinc ionophore, to work in an infected cell. Zinc ion intracellularly inhibits the enzyme replicase needed for viral replication. There’s plenty of food sources for zinc. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/best-foods-high-in-zinc#section5
Don’t think a super-abundance of zinc really matters but if you have data to prove it, I would be interested. My MVI and Preservision have plenty of zinc–greater than the minimum daily requirements.
There is such a thing as Zinc poisoning.
https://www.healthgrades.com/right-care/food-nutrition-and-diet/zinc-poisoning
50 mg a day of zinc is the recommended cap. I have been doing it for 40 years…
That and the butt injections from your best boi. LOL!
You’re the brown dicker … with your inbred sister/brother/mother trannie wife…LMAO @ U FREAK
I’m starting to notice there are lots of people on the left who don’t want a Coronavirus cure. They seem to flourish and enjoy this kind of misery.
To promote the power grab… and they know the PLANNED-demic is a FRAUD… the virus is real… but this whole thing was out lined in a Rockefeller Foundation report in 2010…
Wow! The Democrats really do want to kill off the elderly population with this viral bioweapon from China…originally given to the Wuhan lab to use against its dissidents by the Obama administration, NIH and Fauci. And you thought the Deep State was only involved in political shenanigans. We are in a real war with real casualties from the Deep State Democrat commie enemies.
ChiCom Wuhun chimera SARS/HIV furin cleaved virion… it was/is man made from horse shoe bat blood host human furin cleaved with HIV… to over rev the auto-immue system and KILL the cilia of your lungs and suffocate you with your own mucous…The ChiComs sent bio bombers all over the world…
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This is an act of war and a PLANNED-demic…
Chloroquine works hand in hand with zinc, driving zinc into cells
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The combination of chloroquine and zinc appears to be especially potent. A study published in PLoS ONE is entitled, “Chloroquine is a Zinc Ionophore,”
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https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0109180
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and it describes how chloroquine drives zinc into cancer cells, making those cells highly vulnerable to apoptosis (cell death of cancer cells). From the study: Chloroquine enhanced zinc uptake by A2780 cells in a concentration-dependent manner, as assayed using a fluorescent zinc probe. This enhancement was attenuated by TPEN, a high affinity metal-binding compound, indicating the specificity of the zinc uptake.
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Although that study was focused on cancer cells, we also know that zinc blocks coronavirus RNA polymerase
activity, which is what the coronavirus uses to replicate.
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This paper, published in another PLoS journal, specifically talks about “zinc ionophores” blocking the replication of
coronavirus in cell cultures: “Zn(2+) inhibits coronavirus and arterivirus RNA polymerase activity in vitro and zinc ionophores block the replication of these viruses in cell culture.”
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2973827/
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From the abstract of that study:
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Increasing the intracellular Zn(2+) concentration with zinc-ionophores like pyrithione (PT) can efficiently impair
the replication of a variety of RNA viruses, including poliovirus and influenza virus. For some viruses this effect has been attributed to interference with viral polyprotein processing. In this study we demonstrate that the combination
of Zn(2+) and PT at low concentrations (2 µM Zn(2+) and 2 µM PT) inhibits the replication of SARS-coronavirus (SARS-CoV) and equine arteritis virus (EAV) in cell culture.
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More specifically, Zn(2+) was found to block the initiation step of EAV RNA synthesis, whereas in the case of the
SARS-CoV RdRp elongation was inhibited and template binding reduced. By chelating Zn(2+) with MgEDTA, the inhibitory effect of the divalent cation could be reversed, which provides a novel experimental tool for in vitro
studies of the molecular details of nidovirus replication and transcription.
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So we know that chloroquine + zinc drives the zinc into cells, blocking coronavirus replication. This is published
science, not just a random theory.
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It is very likely, in our estimation, that most of the people dying from coronavirus are zinc deficient. We need to be testing the zinc levels in blood serum of coronavirus patients so we can gather all relevant data and confirm this pattern.
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Symptoms of coronavirus infections almost perfectly mirror symptoms of zinc deficiency
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Writing for LewRockwell.com, Bill Sardi writes that all the most prominent signs of COVID-19 almost perfectly mirror symptoms of zinc deficiency.
From his article:
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…[M]odern medicine is so steeped in its pharmacy of prescription drugs, with its blinders toward nutritional medicine, that it can’t see the obvious evidences of a trace mineral deficiency that results in the same signs and symptoms produced by COVID-19 coronavirus.
So take a chance that the medicine will work or not take the risk and have a better chance of going to the expense of a hospital?
I for one would take the pill.
There is no gamble… it is backed by 20 plus years of research… Big Pharma doesn’t make any money on a cheap CURE…
nteresting fact is that aspirin has never undergone double-blind studies approved by the FDA or any other similar organization.Its effect on fever and headaches is purely anecdotal.In the case of hydroxychloroquine the anecdotal evidence of its efficacy is overwhelming and becoming more so every day. It would be medical malpractice not to furnish the medicine to a patient and those Commiecrats who are banning it should be held both criminally and civilly liable for restricting access to this life-saving treatment.
Dr. James Robb, a pathologist who performed early experiments with coronaviruses back in the 1970s, claims that
zinc lozenges are the “silver bullet against coronavirus.”
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https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/health/can-zinc-lozenges-help-coronavirus-infections
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Zinc is required to maintain thymus gland function to produce life-long antibodies from T-memory cells.
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Zinc supplementation in the elderly, the high-risk group of coronavirus Infections, lowers illness markedly. Modern
medicine needs to emphasize zinc therapy, especially during epidemics.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17344507
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In summary, it looks like zinc might be the single most important preventive measure, possibly in combination with
chloroquine, to halt the spread of the coronavirus pandemic and get the economies of the world back to work.
NPR –
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Nazi
Propaganda
Release
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Write your Congress Rep and Senators. There is no rational reason for our tax dollars being spent to support PBS and NPR. None.
Judy Woodruff claimed it was their job “to tell the viewer what to believe”, in an interview a couple of years back. Not to report the facts, yet form your opinion FOR YOU.
I wanted them defunded since then.
NPR is looooong overdue for a complete scapping or it could be sold to George Soros, who would fit well with the politics of this absurd source of democrat publicity.
I remember back 50 years or so, when me and my friends would joke and laugh at NPR for the traitorts they were, but it was nothing compared to these days.
Sad to say, the libs have TDS so severely that are more than willing to let people die rather than acknowledge there are life saving health benefits to a drug trump said might work.
TDS is now a life threatening pandemic; how will its sufferers ever survive TDS2 when trump is reelected?
READ IT AND WEEP…Michelle you FREAK…
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South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem announces statewide hydroxychloroquine trial
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Umm your point? I posted the Rx triad weeks ago when it first emerged.
That all of your narcissistic behavior has been in vain… and you can not admit you are wrong… YOU are really PATHETIC and really funny…
LMAO @ U… I own you …FOOL…
I doubt that you even own the apartment in which you live let alone a human. All I read is wishful thinking and narcissistic projections of your own problems. It was not your fault that you were born in the Southern USA but I guess it still upsets you. As for the obscene comments all they do is mirror your err “mind”. Say hello to your blow up doll from me and be kind to her as she is probably the only “female” that can stand being near you.
What is the title of your “book”?
? “How to Not win Friends but influence People negatively”.
?” Blowing my own Trumpet: a Megalomaniac’s Guide to imaginary Fame and Respect”.
?”The Adolescent’s G^ide to foul mouthing on the Internet”.
?”How to pretend to be an “Expert” on any Subject in Three Easy Steps”.
?” Hypocrisy: a Guide on How to Accuse Others of What you do yourself”.
?”The Mirror: How to Project your own Problems onto Others as Insults”.
?”Shamming for Dummies or How to pretend on the Internet”.
?”Downvoting and Insults: the Way to Debating “Success” on the Internet”.
You could author all of these.
Good Luck with the self publication!.
Ahh a DownVote..that has to be a Hit from the child who wants to be an adult.
You are one sick beotch… full of narcissistic ASS-umptions… LMAO @ you C^^^ … I own you
That IS a Hit! Many Thanks!
Good…
BTW C^^^ I was born in the Northern US… unlike you… you inbred hillbilly FREAK…
LMAO @ U… I own you
Says You: no one believes you.
and who believes a skankie beotch like you??? Viewers are up voting me beotch slapping you C^^^.. LMAO @ U… I own you
Of course they are if you post something sensible and ceased the abuse, I would also. But not until then as you as a person undermine all that you post by your disgusting attempted personal comments and your inability to handle dissent.
The deflecting queen speaks again… you are so full of BS… I have received e mails from those I correspond with who I have sent my contact info, who are laughing AT YOU… and also agree you are CRAZY senile FREAK… LMAO @ U I own you
Look in the mirror you child. Your history of abusive posts is incredible reading and a you are a joke to most of us. Any good you do post is undermined by your constant, insecure , childish need to insult anyone who disagrees. BTW at 67 you are far more likely to have dementia than I although on top of bipolar it would be messy. Funny that!
tisk tisk now little beotch… I am alive and well functioning in full capacity… which is more than I can say for a narcissistic Beotch like you… read your own posts… blathering vile ASS-umptions of hatred… so much so I have to LAUGH AT YOU for how pathetic you are…
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You don’t get it… you are the joke… and it’s in your mouth… BTW… who cares what “most of us” are?… a bunch of inbred low IQ DEMO-craps…
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LMAO @ U…. I own you… C^^^
You describe yourself so well there. I guess looking in the mirror must hurt eh? I do not hate you. I pity you and your delusions but do agree that you should be muzzled until you learn some manners via treatment.
Tisk tisk little senile FREAK… projecting you inadequacies to deflect you are such a pitiful excuse for a human… is your only option…
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LMAO @ U… I own you
Do you ever read your own posts?
If you do not cringe if you do there is something dreadfully wrong with you.
You actually think that they are impressive?
They ARE pathetic!
The same insults time and time again. Nothing original. Nothing new.
You sound like a robot with limited RAM and a warped inferior one at that.
How is the book going oh BA in science subjects liar?
I doubt if you have ONE degree let alone …how many was it?….three or four?
You really have no idea past your foul mouth and your delusions.
An inadequate personality with an inferiority complex and major delusion problems.
You need treatment and I hope that you receive it soon.
More of your pathetic blathering to deflect from your own STUPIDITY… I can laugh at you all day long… you ae a pathetic COWARD… open up your posts COWARD…
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LMAO @ U…you inbred FREAK…. I own you
tisk tisk little skank… doubts are the devils playground… and he’s been kicking alot of sand in your sorry face… LMAO @ U
Sorry to hear of all your infirmities… get treatment and lay off the crank…
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LMAO @ U
Mirror mirror on the wall… who is the most pathetic of them all??
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Girlie man Michelle…
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See ya Michie…
I don’t take orders from some little C^^^ like you… it is you that first started your narcissistic rant levied at me BEAOTCH…
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LMAO @ U… you are PATHETIC…. I own you
You really are insane and you haven’t a clue have you?
I wont answer any more of your offensive posts but I will continue to annoy the hero in a manner that it dislikes as it has it wailing across the boards about it boo hoo!
COWARD… you don’t annoy me in the least… little beotch… You have way to high of opinion of yourself… and room temp IQ..
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LMAO @ U I one you skankie…
Sure you want to… you know it… your megalomaniacal ego is just eating you alive… and I am loving every minute of it little girlie man… LMAO @ U
more blather from the SHE-IT…. LMAO @ U
yada yada yada… blathering your stupidity and baseless ASS-umptions again to ASS-ume you have a clue…NOT LMAO @ U… I own you
I posted it a couple months ago… I have been taking ZINC for 40 years and have the FULL CITES… and abstracts… LMAO @ U… I own you little SKANK…
READ IT AND WEEP MICHELLE…LMAO @ U
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South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem announces statewide hydroxychloroquine trial
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Says the rude person who when asked not to insult others raves like a lunatic.
First, I hear that HCQ **does** work quickly against Covid. Then I hear that it **does not** work against Covid.
Which is it?
If I want the drug I will get it or the body count will be staggering!!!!