[ April 19, 2024 ]
U.S. Reports Its First Case of Human-to-Human Transmission
- The CDC confirmed Thursday the nation’s first person-to-person transmission of the coronavirus that has already killed at least 171 people in China.
- The transmission makes the U.S. at least the fifth country where the infection is now spreading through human-to-human contact.
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China’s Leader Xi Jinping warns of ‘GRAVE SITUATION’ as CORONAVIRUS spreads at “accelerating speed”
CORONAVIRUS: Reports of Thousands Dead in China
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China’s Coronavirus is Much Worse Than You Think
TORCHING EVIDENCE China is cremating bodies in secret to hide true extent of death toll, says new report
By Robert Mann, The Sun, January 30, 2020:
CHINA is cremating bodies in secret, suggesting the official coronavirus death toll is “way too low”, a disturbing new report claims.
The official death toll from coronavirus in China has skyrocketed to 170, with 7,711 cases now reported — an increase of 38 deaths and 1,737 cases in just 24 hours.
A new report claims China is cremating bodies in secret to hide the true extent of the coronavirus death tollCredit: Wuhan central hospital/weiboChinese-language news outlet Initium believes patients who died from the virus were not added to the official recordCredit: Instagram
But now doubts have been raised about the official death toll.
In a bold claim, Chinese-language news outlet Initium believe that Chinese authorities have been cremating bodies in secret.
CREMATION INVESTIGATION
This week, they interviewed people working at local cremation centres in Wuhan — where the virus originated from — who said bodies were being sent directly from hospitals without being properly identified and added to the official record.
“There are reasons to remain sceptical about what China has been sharing with the world,” said DW News East Asia correspondent William Yang.
“Because while they have been more transparent about certain things related to the virus, they continue to be sketchy and unreliable in other aspects.”
Their investigation comes after coronavirus cases jumped to 5,974 on Wednesday — a 30 per cent increase in infections in a day — surpassing the 5,327 people diagnosed with SARS.
Mr Yang added how the current death toll of 170 is “way too low” for what it should be, adding how the cremation claim “makes sense”.
He continued: “Credible Chinese media outlet Initium interviewed people working at local cremation centres, confirming that many dead bodies were sent directly from the hospitals to the cremation centres without properly identifying these patients.
“This means there are patients who died from the virus, but were not added to the official record.”
There are reasons to remain sceptical about what China has been sharing with the world
William YangJust last week, The Guardian reported how Chinese hospitals were not testing patients for the virus, and at least one family was pressured into a cremation.
Two doctors reportedly told the family that the patient had likely contracted coronavirus, but provided no documentation.
There are also damning stories from Wuhan of medics failing to test patients who were clearly showing signs of the illness.
Kyle Hui told the New York Times that despite his stepmother having the correct symptoms — including a cough and a fever — doctors wearing hazmat suits refused to test her for the virus.
Subsequently, she died on January 15 with Mr Hui arguing how her death certificate says “severe pneumonia” rather than coronavirus.
And while she has not been recorded as one of the official victims of the bug, he claims how doctors told him to cremate his stepmother’s body because they suspected she had the disease.
Scientists say there are still many questions to be answered about the new virus, including just how easily it spreads and how severe it is.
World health officials expressed “great concern” on Wednesday that the virus is starting to spread between people outside of China.
They added how they were taking “extraordinary measures in the face of an extraordinary challenge” posed by the outbreak.
The global pandemic has caused serious confusion, panic and heartache around the world.
Just today, a Brit dad trapped in coronavirus-hit Wuhan revealed he will have to choose if he leaves China without his newborn baby and wife.
Health workers have been working around the clock to help contain the killer virusCredit: Wuhan Central Hospital/Weibo
The official death toll has skyrocketed to 170, with 7,711 cases now reported in ChinaCredit: Twitter/RFA_Chinese
The deadly bug started in Wuhan and has spread worldwideCredit: Instagram
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69 Comments
4 years ago
I can’t believe you’d reprint this.
It’s utterly a lie.
4 years ago
Reply to
livingengine
They claimed the Chinese government was “scrambling” to build two more hospitals in a hurry which would each house over 1000 patients.
They’d more likely shut down skating arenas and sports arenas and schools and modify those spaces to house and treat the sick and the dead and that the transportation of such numbers of sick and dead would be utterly impossible to miss!
Building hospitals for up to 2500 patients immediately is ridiculous if you need to care for 90,00+.
So as you can see, delusional people in China are lying to create a greater “crisis” than necessary.
Suggesting that “scrambling” to build two hospitals for just under 2500 people is evidence of 90,000 true victims of this virus insults my intelligence.
It should insult yours
4 years ago
Reply to
Tamara Hussey-Mecklenburg
My view is that there is an upper and lower bound on this situation. At the current upper end, there are stories of 100,000 beds being needed and 100,000 infections. At the current lower end, the WHO just declared a world wide emergency. Unfortunately, there is limited factual reporting that does not take into account how rapidly things are changing. Somewhere in the middle is the truth.
I point out that no one has said that this situation is by any means near conclusion.
4 years ago
Reply to
Warmac9999
I’m certain there will be but right now I’d say no.
Logic dictates that if China was drowning in sick and dying people, they’d be begging the international community for help.
4 years ago
Reply to
Tamara Hussey-Mecklenburg
A just-published study found that the death rate for the Wuhan virus is 11%. If this holds true, China is in for deep trouble. What is 11% of 1.4 billion people?
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30211-7/fulltext
4 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
11%!!!!! Please read any of the real articles and do the math for yourself. On the first day the death rate was around 3.1%. on the second day it dropped to 2.8%. As of the third day it was less than 2.3%. There is absolutely no way on Earth that it is 11% and anyone who wrote that can’t do simple math.
4 years ago
Reply to
Tamara Hussey-Mecklenburg
Have look at the Lancet article. At this point we are all speculating. Certainly the situation is more serious than what the Chinese authorities are claiming. And certainly, this pandemic will have a certain doubling time for the infected population. That inevitably means that things will get worse exponentially.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30211-7/fulltext
4 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
I don’t have to look at the Lancet article. I have read about 20 other articles with consistent numbers. The Lancet is absolutely out of their minds.
The death rate is so low I don’t even know why this is an issue.
4 years ago
Reply to
Tamara Hussey-Mecklenburg
They are not out of their minds. It’s a careful clinical study. And the Spanish flu of 1918 also had quite low death rates, but 30 to 100 million died. Hundreds of millions were infected.
As long as the infection rate exceeds one other person infected for every patient, then the disease will spread exponentially unless it is fully contained.
4 years ago
Reply to
Tamara Hussey-Mecklenburg
Why don’t you teach MATHEMATICS and LOGICS to the CORONA-VIRUS ?!
4 years ago
Reply to
Tamara Hussey-Mecklenburg
Tamara: Here is some new data, New England Journal of Medicine, just today Jan 31.:
“Study Finds Human-to-Human Transmission Occurred in Early Stages of Coronavirus Outbreak”
https://www.theepochtimes.com/study-finds-human-to-human-transmission-occurred-in-early-stages-of-coronavirus-outbreak_3222198.html
Human-to-human transmission of the coronavirus was occurring from mid-December 2019 in Wuhan, China, according to the largest study to-date analyzing patients infected with the deadly virus.
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https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001316#.XjIZLaUBk_E.twitter
Results
“Among the first 425 patients with confirmed NCIP [Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) – Infected Pneumonia] the median age was 59 years and 56% were male. The majority of cases (55%) with onset before January 1, 2020, were linked to the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, as compared with 8.6% of the subsequent cases. The mean incubation period was 5.2 days (95% confidence interval [CI], 4.1 to 7.0), with the 95th percentile of the distribution at 12.5 days. In its early stages, the epidemic doubled in size every 7.4 days. With a mean serial interval of 7.5 days (95% CI, 5.3 to 19), the basic reproductive number was estimated to be 2.2 (95% CI, 1.4 to 3.9).”
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This does not give the death rate, and that would be distorted anyway, because all these 425 patients had pneumonia from the Wuhan virus. But the infection rate [reproductive number] is estimated to be 2.2. I hope this helps.
4 years ago
Reply to
Tamara Hussey-Mecklenburg
I think is more likely death per number of known cases
4 years ago
Reply to
william carr
Yes, it is, and of course the disease takes a while before it is ‘finished’ in each patient. Most people get better, but some die. And the true death rate is based on the total population where the disease ‘finished’. In most, they got better, but some died.
4 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
and just in case you don’t know how to do it. You take the number of people who they reported to have died and you divide it by the number of people they reported to have fallen ill. It will be .0 31 etc or .0 28 etc or .0023 etc.
This equates to 3.1%, 2.8%, and 2.3%.
4 years ago
Reply to
Tamara Hussey-Mecklenburg
Please remember that both the numerator and the denominator for that calculation are suspect, and are based on guesstimates.
4 years ago
Reply to
Tamara Hussey-Mecklenburg
Even your lowest number is about 50 million. If applied to the entire population of the earth, about 250 million. These are staggering numbers that I don’t really want to contemplate.
4 years ago
Reply to
Tamara Hussey-Mecklenburg
I hope you are right but the history of dictatorships is not one of openness. Do you believe North Korea, if confronted with the loss of a few million people, would expose itself to the world?
4 years ago
Reply to
william carr
I could pick any dictatorship, not just NK. In top down dictatorial governments much is done to protect the image of competence.
4 years ago
Reply to
Tamara Hussey-Mecklenburg
Tamara, you do not understand the mindset of the Chinese Communist. In regard to what you view as logical, it would be a tremendous sign of weakness to the Chinese government. Save face is more important than breathing.
4 years ago
Reply to
Tamara Hussey-Mecklenburg
I hope you’re right, but if it was the Ughyurs I’d hope you’re wrong.
4 years ago
Reply to
Tamara Hussey-Mecklenburg
Hello, can I ask what you are refering to in your comment please. Are you refering to the article or something someone has said?
4 years ago
Isn’t there anything we can do?
Maybe healthy food & cistus incanus & oils from black seed & oregano can efficiently assist the cells in the fight against viruses.
“Scientists have discovered that extracts of the medicinal plant Cistus incanus (Ci) prevent human immunodeficiency viruses from infecting cells. Active antiviral ingredients in the extracts inhibit docking of viral proteins to cells. Antiviral activity of Cistus extracts also targets Ebola- and Marburg viruses.”
https://draxe.com/nutrition/black-seed-oil-benefits/
“Out of 144 strains tested, most of which were resistant to a number of antibiotics, 97 were inhibited by the oil of black cumin.”
https://draxe.com/essential-oils/oregano-oil-benefits-superior-prescription-antibiotics/
4 years ago
Reply to
Jay Wizzy
There are a lot of things you can do, but none are certain to prevent coronavirus infection. Bleach, for example, is a great product for sanitizing large areas. Make a 10 parts water to one part bleach solution and spray on surfaces that can be contaminated. Obviously stay away from crowds – hard to do in congested large cities. Wash hands constantly.
4 years ago
Reply to
Jay Wizzy
The survivalist sites have a lot of really good ideas and sources for key items. Some are very well thought out and give a sense of comfort to avoid the panic of uncertainty. What kills people isn’t just disease but fear of the unknown.
I have purchased from survival frog, but also from legacy foods. I don’t go crazy just a bit at a time.
4 years ago
Bat food. Bear food. Cat and dog food. Perhaps we should be vegetarians like Hindu. Idk are our meats and chickens injection free? 30 years ago meat was gr8. Now with countries massively over populated we have meat that’s not meat. Oz sells food to Asians that’s 100% better and we as a gr8 western country get the slips and cut offs. Why is that?
4 years ago
When the Nazi’s did it they called it a holocaust. You should burn dead sick people to slow down the epidemic and save lives.
4 years ago
Reply to
Jamfer Jones
What was the sickness that the Nazis cited when they murdered millions of people? How did the Nazis save lives by killing millions?
4 years ago
There is a good chance the true mortality rate of the weaponized coronavirus may be as high as 7.5%.
4 years ago
I hope Islamic countries get infected, the world is better off without Muslims.
4 years ago
Reply to
Ban Islam
Hey, yeah. Even though biological weapons were supposedly eliminated by international treaty some years back, you bring up an interesting idea.
4 years ago
We should ban all Chinese escaping the bat coronavirus disease from coming to Australia. Is there some secret deal betwixt china and Oz?
Now they are sending xmas island detention fake asylum seekers to oz. We have 3000 coming from fricken china. Wtf
4 years ago
Why does anyone think that China releases the truth?
It was predicted that they would do just that. Lie!
They are Communists and like muslims a lie is second nature.
Remember Chernobyl Katyn wood! The Ukraine! ad infin.
4 years ago
Reply to
Michelle
Not only do they lie, they will lie to your face when refuting evidence is right there for everyone to see.
I visited China in 1985 shortly after they opened the gates and allowed Westerners in. My husband and I observed people living in little aluminum shacks about the size of two or three porta potties. The residents were brushing their teeth in the street with little cups of water. There were also a lot of people living on docked boats, cooking on deck and washing clothes.
We asked our hosts “How many people do not having running water?” AND “How many people are living on boats?” We were told that 100% of the population has running water and no one lives in boats. My husband replied by telling them what we had observed and said “Why would they bush their teeth with cups of water in the street if they lived in homes with running water?” AND “Why are these people cooking and doing laundry on boat decks if they live in houses.” The answer was choice “Oh, must be visitors!”
4 years ago
Reply to
CreoleGumbo
Things have changed a lot in nearly 40 years. I lived in China for 4 years and visited many times since between 2000 and 2017. In the cities at least
if it were not for the faces of the people in the streets you would think you were in any Western city. There are of course still poor people in the countryside
4 years ago
Reply to
william carr
I am well aware of the fact that standards of living have advanced.
My comment was in reference to the fact that it is part of Chinese culture to lie to your face in front of forensic evidence to the contrary. They lie! And nothing has changed that. My current experiences with the Chinese have given me no reason to believe that once the standards of living improved that they suddenly became truthful.
4 years ago
Reply to
william carr
I’ve read Beijing has smog so bad it makes the worst smog in Los Angeles look like nothing.
4 years ago
Reply to
CreoleGumbo
A relative is an environmental engineer. She was with a UN archaeology study group touring china but when they discovered her occupation they found an “irregularity” with her visa and she was booted but not before she saw the soot sticking to the walls and the people all wearing masks in the filthy industrial towns they passed through(they were not allowed off the bus there). China has always never cared about its people while ChiComs care even less. I wonder if they hope that this virus will drop their population to a sustainable level. If no one in the politburo dies that may be a clue.
4 years ago
Reply to
CreoleGumbo
China has developed a lot in the past 35 years. Your information is out of date, to say the least.
4 years ago
The first picture looks a little bit suspect as the man on the ground has a lot of blood on his head and a puddle of it flowing away from his head. Indicative of a head shot or severe trauma not a virus. Can anyone throw any light on the picture?
4 years ago
Reply to
Clem Jackson
Yes that does look like blood and I would not be surprised if he had been shot in public with people looking at it and keeping their mouths shut.
4 years ago
Reply to
Clem Jackson
He could have hit his head, head wounds bleed profusely I know from experience
4 years ago
Reply to
Clem Jackson
Sputum can be bloody. If lungs are being damaged by the virus to the point of death, blood can be expelled. The facts chart above mentions fluid in the lungs.
4 years ago
Did you hear about the Chinese government official who actually told the truth? Me either.
4 years ago
Anyone surprised?
4 years ago
Reply to
Roma Mikhasev
Not at all.
Regarding China:
We need to multiply the death toll and the number of contaminated persons by the factor 100 – at least !
4 years ago
Reply to
Porter G. Stone
I hear it kills mainly the young, elderly or those very ill already. But viruses mutate, that’s the fear with this one and the fact it spreads so quickly
4 years ago
If the Chinese are burning dead bodies, it may be to avoid further contamination. Hence, they may have no choice…
4 years ago
China reminds me of Iran after their missiles brought down a plane. These governments lie by nature.
I just got a pneumonia shot which is free in Canada if you are a senior. Can’t hurt (well my arm is a bit sore and there can be some nausea, but really).
4 years ago
The SUN? are you serious? One of the most rubbish papers in UK. In any case the WHO is involved so they must be covering up too. 200 deaths in a country with 1,4 billion people is a tragedy for their families but not of dramatic significance. More people die of vehicle accidents every year
4 years ago
How are the cities going to secure their food supplies when the trucks stop running?
Does anyone else remember we sent a delegation to Ireland some years back to dig up victims of the Black Death plague so the virus could be taken to the USA for analisis?
I suspect islamists are now infecting potential suicide bombers with the corona virus to be sent as tourists to attend the Super Bowl and other crowded venues. A great opportunity to spread islam!
4 years ago
Why haven’t all flights from China been quarantined?
4 years ago
It’s all good … the victims are just peasants … move along folks.
4 years ago
The US has zero deaths from the Wu-Wu virus at this date. In one month the US death rate of the Wu-Wu will be zero. in one year, the US death rate of the Wu-Wu virus will be zero.
One has to love all the “secret” stuff from China. As if they’re not shutting down Hong Kong and other protest centers under cover of the “pandemic”.
4 years ago
Quite a few folks seem confused about the stories here …
1. China’s government lies … to those of us with first hand experience with Chinese … this is on par with observing that the sky is blue in the daytime.
2. Are governments managing the disease to prevent a pandemic … and we don’t know; today’s journalists are no more competent than today’s epidemiologists, and with Fake News to spin whatever we do know … who knows?
3. This is by no means the first virus outbreak in Asia with elements of a pandemic … so although the casualty rate is too low for a pandemic, and the transmission rate between humans is inadequate … this is a test.
4. This is a test … it’s only a test … and – btw – it’s a “natural” or “accidental” test, not a military or terrorist test … we can be sure it’s not an “intentional” test … nobody would be ‘testing’ the system if they were trying to kill anybody. They would use something with a much higher fatality rate and higher transmissivity rate. …
I did not put quotes on those adjectives because of a ‘conspiracy theory’ – but because this is the umpteenth time we’ve seen this movie. Obviously the Chinese are not interested in modifying their behavior to prevent these sorts of diseases … so it is only a matter of time before a serious plague hits the ventilating device. That’s a half joke.
When you ignore high risk “natural” or “accidental” situations … the line between ‘act of God’ and ‘criminal negligence’ blurs.
Bottomline: No this is not the end of the world, but China is showing us how they plan to handle a deadly pandemic …
… like Keystone cops.
It’s very encouraging. /sarc
4 years ago
Reply to
Dan Knight
Well stated. But, have you noticed that the Chinese medicos are wearing googles as well? There are claims that the virus can be absorbed thru the eyes (as well as nose and mouth). This would mean that a breathing mask alone is not sufficient protection against the virus…
4 years ago
Reply to
Marcus Tectus
Indeed. The coronavirus cannot be transmitted by skin-to-skin contact alone; it is an airborne virus that can only infect the body through an organ with a mucous membrane (eyes, nose, lips, female genitalia).
However, it is unlikely that a viral droplet would just get in your eye unless an infected person spit, sneezed or coughed directly into it. A more likely scenario would be that someone touches a viral droplet on a surface with their hands and then rubs their eyes (or picks their nose or touches their mouth) before washing.
Lately, most person-to-person transmissions have not come from chance encounters with random strangers in public places but from close contact with infected family members and regular acquaintances who share the same living space.
4 years ago
Reply to
Marcus Tectus
Not all those breathing masks are created equally.
I went to a hospital just last night in Southern Californication. There’s already been a case of Coronavirus in my county. Oddly enough most all of the hospital personnel in the ER weren’t wearing any type of masks at all and seemed completely unconcerned about the Coronavirus — even the MD’s!
4 years ago
Reply to
Marcus Tectus
Yes, but any virus that transmits via a bodily fluid must be assumed to be transmissible through the eyes until its verified to be otherwise.
Most of us forget that when we sneeze, we send out a zillion liquid drops full of virus. This is usually not a problem since most common flu viruses will not transmit through the eyes, but it’s possible, and so …
I can understand why people are terrified, and they use goggles.
You and yours have a wonderful week Marcus!
4 years ago
Reply to
Dan Knight
I may be wrong, pray that I’m not … but, I believe that this is a scam, pushed by the globalists to crater the world’s economy. Too much populism and nationalist views … for the betterment of the actual citizenry … and, they simply cannot have that.
Look at what influenza does, in the United States of America. Between 12,000 (low end) and 63,000 (high end outlier) are KILLED each year.
The World Health Organization has determined that the flu kills between 250,000 to 500,000 people each year. About 10% of U.S. residents get influenza each year. About 100,000 are hospitalized and 36,000 Americans die each year from the complications of the flu.
4 years ago
Reply to
Achmed Mohandjob
Certainly it could be … I would not be surprised by that. But I’m just responding as if the news is basically ‘true’ …
Influenza is far worse than what the corona virus has allegedly done.
But the flu as we call it is a spectrum of viruses that are endemic to humans, the corona virus – allegedly, of course – has jumped species via bat soup – or some other stupid sh*t. That makes it a different animal, and the disease control agencies should use it as a ‘practice’ drill for the ‘Big One’ – much as every forest fire is a training exercise for mega-fires, and every bad storm is an exercise for a hurricane.
See – the genetics allow us to follow the progress of this virus and how well intervention policies control the spread of the virus. They claim they can do this with the flu, and they can – sort of – but the viral markers are much easier and more clear with this one. Also species jumping is a concern because it’s actually quite rare when you think about the zillions of viruses that could potentially jump species.
In that vein … no one seems to be handling it well. Though to be fair, it may all be hype – or a hoax – or a deliberate event. Certainly panic has set in, and that’s not good.
… not that I’m expert btw … but I was a professional environmental engineer for a state health department for almost a decade, and that has made me cynical about health depts.
you and yours have a fantastic week Achmed!
4 years ago
Typical crouching tiger hidden dragon Chinese behaviour. This is a man made lab disease. We should have a chexit.
4 years ago
THEIR BIO WEAPON GOT AWAY FROM THEM, EITHER BY MISTAKE OR ON PURPOSE. IT REALLY DOESN’T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE AT THIS POINT IN TIME SINCE IT IS WORLD WIDE NOW. WE JUST HAVE TO RIDE IT OUT. HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE PEOPLE WHO WILL HAVE A NATURAL ABILITY TO FIGHT IT OFF AND SURVIVE. BEST OF LUCK TO ALL AND MAY GOD WATCH OVER US ALL.
4 years ago
Construction on the site in Wuhan has already begun with staff hoping it will be completed within six days
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51315238
