They took it down as soon as it took off from Tehran. Western left elite couldn’t bow fast enough or scrape hard enough to these savage mullahs. Denying reality they jumped into the fire. Now they are paying – with blood. 82 Iranians, 63 Canadians and three Britons died on flight PS752. Trudeau couldn’t wait to get into bed with the terror state.
Iran is the Democrat and the left’s cause. Trudeau couldn’t do biz with Iran fast enough.
Iran plane was most likely SHOT DOWN as crash pics show ‘obvious projectile holes’, say expert
By: Tom Michael, Danielle Cinone, Richard Wheatstone, Will Stewart, The Sun, 8 Jan 2020:
Story continues below advertisementA PLANE that crashed killing 176 people hours after an Iranian missile strike on US bases was “likely” shot down and wreckage shows “obvious projectile holes”, experts say.
The Kiev-bound Ukraine International Airlines jet came down shortly after taking off from Tehran Airport in Iran this morning, killing everyone on board.
Iran blamed “technical problems” for the deadly fireball, and have locked down the crash site and refused to release the black boxes to international authorities.
But aviation experts have now suggested a “shootdown” was the most likely explanation for the disaster.
The OPS group, an aviation risk monitoring group, said: “We would recommend the starting assumption to be that this was a shootdown event, similar to MH17 – until there is clear evidence to the contrary.”
They highlighted pictures of the crash site which they said “show obvious projectile holes in the fuselage and a wing section”.
Aviation expert Julian Bray told Sun Online: “This is catastrophic and not the type of crash that comes from an engine failing. There would have been nothing that anyone could do.
“It is very unusual, you would expect to see some wreckage but all we can see here is debris.”
But he added that it was too early to say for sure what caused the crash, with other experts agreeing.
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- Ukraine has now dropped its initial “engine failure” reference after it is revealed pilots did not make any kind of mayday call from the 2016-built plane.
- Ukraine banned flights through Iranian airspace in response.
- Ukraine President has instructed prosecutors to open criminal proceedings on the crash.
- Iran has refused to give the plane’s black boxes to Boeing, but says both have been found.
- Iran’s civil aviation authority is investigating.
BLACK BOX
The plane’s black box flight recorders have since been found, with one Iranian official saying they were damaged but their data could still be retrieved.
However, Iran is refusing to hand them over to international authorities, Reuters reports.
Iranian media said the Boeing 737 came down after “technical problems” and quoted an aviation chief who said no emergency had been declared.
Qassem Biniaz, a spokesman for Iran’s Road and Transportation authority, claimed one of its engines caught fire, causing the pilot to lose control.
But the aircraft was new in 2016 and was last checked just two days ago, the Ukrainian foreign ministry said.
BALL OF FLAMES
And jet engine maker CFM slammed claims the crash was caused by engine failure, saying it was too early to speculate on what was behind the tragedy.
Ukraine’s Tehran embassy initially blamed engine failure but later removed the statement, saying it could not officially comment on the cause until after a probe.
It also abruptly removed a line from its statement excluding a terrorist attack or missile strike.
Horrifying footage posted online shows the plane engulfed in flames as it went down.
The single-aisle, twin-engine jetliner had 167 passengers and nine crew members on board.
Among them were 63 Canadians, 10 Swedes, three Germans and three Brits, Ukraine’s foreign minister Vadym Prystaiko confirmed.
There were also 82 Iranians, 11 Ukrainians and four Afghans aboard, he added.
The plane crashed shortly after take-off at Tehran Airport
‘SHOT DOWN’ FEARS
The crash came just hours after Iran launched at least 15 missiles at two US bases housing American and British troops in Erbil and Al Asad.
And it happened hours after a 4.9-magnitude earthquake struck near to an Iranian nuclear site.
It is feared the plane may have been shot down by nervous Iranian defences in the aftermath of the missile attacks.
The strikes were codenamed Operation Martyr Soleimani – in retaliation for the killing of Iranian General Qasem Soleimani in a US air raid last week.
The plane crash comes just days after Iranian President Hassan Rouhani appeared to hint he was threatening another Lockerbie bombing.
And it bears chilling similarities to the 2014 downing of a Malaysia Airlines plane by Russian-backed separatists over Ukraine, after it was mistaken for an incoming missile.
The US Navy also killed 290 people in a similar incident after mistakenly shooting down an Iranian passenger jet in 1988.
A number of airlines have now suspended flights over Iranian and Iraqi airspace.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy today said he has instructed prosecutors to open criminal proceedings, and the plane’s black box flight recorders have reportedly been found.
But according to reports Iranian officials were refusing to hand it over to international authorities.
Flight data shows the plane reached an altitude of 2.4 km and then suddenly disappeared.
The three-year-old plane stopped sending data almost immediately after it took off, according to website FlightRadar24.
Rescuers rushed to the scene of the crash but could not get near the site because of the intensity of the flames.
Images show flaming wreckage strewn across the ground in the immediate aftermath of the crash.
And other harrowing pictures show victims being lined up in body bags at the scene and their possessions collected in a field nearby.
Plane crashes in Iran hours after missile barrage
3am local time – Iran announced it had fired ballistic missiles as two US army bases in Iraq in what they said was an ‘act of self-defense’
6am – Iranian state TV claimed that 80 ‘American terrorists’ were killed during the bombing but President Trump responded with a tweet saying: “All is well! Missiles launched from Iran at two military bases located in Iraq. Assessment of casualties & damages taking place now. So far, so good!”
6.15am – Flight PS752 takes off from Tehran Airport but crashed shortly after departure
8.30am – All 176 people on board a Ukrainian commercial airliner that crashed after take-off from Tehran are confirmed dead by an Iranian emergency official
10.30am – Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab condemns missile strikes on Iraqi military bases and urges Iran ‘not to repeat these reckless and dangerous attacks’
12pm – Ukrainian Foreign Minister Vadym Prystaiko confirms three British nationals were on board the doomed flight
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Some charred remains of the aircraft had fallen in or close to a residential area.
The US Federal Aviation Administration had earlier barred commercial flights from entering Iranian and Iraqi airspace.
Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky said in a statement: “My sincere condolences to the relatives and friends of all passengers and crew.”
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Hard to avoid the theory that is was a missile strike.
The shrapnel holes are difficult to explain otherwise. Although it is conceivable that the shrapnel came from inside the plane, this does not seem to be consistent with the way the plane crashed. It seemed to remain airborne for a short time before crashing, as if the pilots were struggling to keep it up. An internal explosion would probably have resulted in an immediate plunge to earth.
Hard to avoid the theory that is was a missile strike.
The shrapnel holes are difficult to explain otherwise. Although it is conceivable that the shrapnel came from inside the plane, this does not seem to be consistent with the way the plane crashed. It seemed to remain airborne for a short time before crashing, as if the pilots were struggling to keep it up. An internal explosion would probably have resulted in an immediate plunge to earth.
full of fuel + hot rounds =
Something had to trigger those hot rounds
really – every one knows the guns kill people —
More mayhem from psychotic, rabid Muslims of Iran. They can’t have a funeral without screwing up; and they can’t shoot off a couple dozen missiles without f’ing up.
Wikipedia: As of September 2012, there are no formal diplomatic relations between the Islamic Republic of Iran and Canada.
63 Canadians were on a Ukrainian airlines flight from Tehran to Kiev. Hmmm? Looks and smells like they were given advanced warning and trying to escape.
It’s becoming clearer that the missile attacks on the Iraqi air bases was the cover story. The downed commercial jet was the real revenge. They didn’t have the balls to kill Americans so they went after the Canadians & Europeans. In the parlance of terror, that’s low hanging fruit. The fact that they also murdered 82 of their own should surprise no one with a functioning brain. The psychopaths controlling Iran are modern day Nazis.
If we don’t bomb all of their nuclear plants and development sites, we will pay dearly for that cowardice and naivete.
It’s not enough for the U.S. to declare war on Iran.
There were no U.S. citizens on that flight and there were no U.S. citizens killed on the two bases and damage was minimal. You can’t go to war ON THAT! That would be ridiculous Iran needs to do something bigger while Trump is President. Taking out the head is a better idea along with sanctions until they submit or if they want to flex their puny muscles and do something bigger, then Trump will bomb the shiiiit out of them. BTW it is not “cowardice or naivete ” going on here and you can’t let EMOTIONS create WW3 that is NOT justified. Again what happened to the U.S. does not justify WW3.
On a purely legal basis none of the events of the past week justify the US bombing Iran’s nuclear sites.
What about Iran wiping out half of Saudi Arabia’s refining capabilities? That was clearly an act of war but as SA’s ally we didn’t cease the opportunity.
Now that the Obama Nuclear Deal is dead, Iran is betting that legal constraints and our fear of consequences will prevent us from bombing their nuclear facilities. Iran didn’t participate in the two year negotiating charade with Obama to reduce the likelihood we would bomb them. It was strictly for the money. They wanted the crippling sanctions lifted. They succeeded. Obama gave away the store and lifted all sanctions, until Sheriff Trump showed up.
Iran’s nuclear capabilities coupled with their expertise in developing and funding proxy terror groups all over the world make them the most dangerous country on earth right now. Killing their terror chief is symbolic but it will only harden the mullahs resolve.
Iran has two goals:
Establish a Shia Islamic caliphate that controls large segments of the ME
Join the exclusive nuclear club and use it to extort concessions out of the West.
We have two options:
A) Destroy them economically before they have a viable nuclear weapons capability
B) Destroy their nuclear facilities now
The ball is in our hands but we are running out of time.
If you look at all the holes, they have been punctured from outside, as all the metal is folded inward. If it was an explosion, on board, the holes would have jagged edges shown. I believe it was shot down! trudope will do nothing because these are his specials and they must be protected at all costs.
Amen, Trudeau is in deep mourning.
There is also a picture of a missile control device scattered amongst the wreckage. Why in the world was this aircraft given a clearance to takeoff and why did the pilot takeoff in the midst of an active war zone. And, were the people killed all Muslim or were a large percentage Christian?
It’s hard to get the truth on this but is sounds like when they took off the attack hadn’t started yet. Bad timing?
The single-aisle, twin-engine jetliner had 167 passengers and nine crew members on board.
Among them were 63 Canadians,
10 Swedes,
three Germans and
three Brits, Ukraine’s foreign minister Vadym Prystaiko confirmed.
There were also 82 Iranians,
11 Ukrainians and
four Afghans aboard, he added.
The only time Justin has his ducks in a row….is when he wears those socks……
Why fly to Tehran?
As a virtue signalling, gutless, spineless, cowardly, sniveling, groveling (to muslims) little weasel, he will blame Trump for this. This pathetic degenerate little soy boy is utterly useless, a waste of oxygen. Canadians should be ashamed of themselves, the whole world sees Canadians as virtue signalling gutless little globalist tree huggers. I live in Europe most of the time now. A lot of people here feel sorry for Canadians considering that their leader is too much of a coward and too staunch of a muslim to avenge any Canadian deaths. Well, Canadians got the government that they deserve and asked for.
Iran will blame Israel and America especially the EU will believe it. One day, in the not too distant future, Iranian missiles will strike the EU, possibly Germany and France; there’s no doubt they, too, will blame Israel or America. Iran holds no morality, civility; mass-murder, hate-mongering is seeded in their DNA. CNN will become the first to report Israel and America were culpable for this tragedy. Pelosi will fly to Tehran for a love-fest with the Mullahs; taking the Jihad Squad to carry her bags.
I am concerned about Israel’s political situation. If they must have a third election and get the liberal Blue and White party in, Israel is finished. They will appease Muslims. The U.S. can’t stop them from doing that.
Netanyahu and Saudi Arabia know the threat Iran poses to both of them. Iran is using Yemen to direct missiles to Saudi Arabia if they don’t initiate them in Iran. Sunni dominated Jordan is not happy with Israel after Jerusalem was acknowledged as the capital of Israel and neither is Sunni dominated Egypt. Iran can not be allowed to take over Iraq. Sunni dominated Syria and the other Sunni dominated countries are a bit of a buffer from Shiite dominated Iran but all Muslims HATE Jews and Christians and want Israel obliterated. Israel is surrounded by enemies. With Netanayahu getting the Trump treatment with fake charges, this is a very precarious time for Israel.
Indeed, Netanyahu is Israel’s savior. Your words of concern ring true, Felix; mine are the same.
No surprise there, you have a terrorist regime running Iran and all Islam occupied countries, this is a natural consequence. If you’re stupid enough to travel to the mideast, you deserve what you get.
Life is generally going well for most people in the West so they don’t want to ruin it. This is why we have these pathetic politically correct wars where we kill a few terrorists and claim victory.
What is needed is bombing campaigns like we had during WW2 and the Vietnam era. We all know that the real problem of Islamic fascism is far greater than one or two terrorists. This is an ideological war between vast populations of people.
If we’re not going to try to eradicate Islam, then at the very least we should protect ourselves in western nations by removing most if not all Muslims and keep them out, while making sure they don’t have or get nukes to use against us.
What kafir in their right mind flies to f’ing Iran aside from that fat pig Michael Moore?
Utopians and defiant idiots go there.
I wish Moore and other liberal elites would MOVE THERE.
Not the first time Iran has acted in such a way. But it may sure as hell be their last.
It’s no wonder they don’t want to turn that black box over to anyone. Ukraine’s foreign ministry revealed there were 82 Iranians, 63 Canadians and three Britons on flight PS752.. Will the UK and Canada condemn this? They should.
Is it too much to ask they respond. Or will the usual flowers, teddy bears, candles and little condolence cards be the answer. How about arresting some Iranians and rapidly deporting.
The story says the passengers were different nationalities, but most likely, they were all natives of Iran. Probably immigrated to the other countries and came back home to visit relatives.
Ann Corcoran ran this story today about Border and Customs in Washington State holding up Iranians for closer checks. CAIR was upset. Imagine that!
Trump has been doing that for awhile through DHS. I think it was last fall at Harvard where an Iranian student was initially denied a student VISA because his friends on social media were very anti-US. I think ANYONE from Iran should be denied entry to the U.S.. I don’t care what they claim they are here for.
CAIR needs to be shut down and indicted.
Friendly fire … probably.
Some Quota Quack shot the plane down. It’s possible an engine exploded threw off ‘shrapnel’ – but it would take an expert to work that out. More likely the plane was hit with a missile or anti-aircraft weapon.
Most likely most of the passengers were Iranians. Maybe a few Westerners on some dirty business, but mostly fake refugees going back to their exploitation-home.
That said, God bless the innocent.
I wouldn’t discount there being someone on board that plane, that the Iranian government wanted to get rid of, without it being seen as such.
They were crazy to be flying at a time like that, with trigger-happy psychotic muslim gunners armed with Russian SAMs on the lookout for American planes. If the airlines are so dumb as to be flying, the passengers should take it on themselves not to get on board.
Jewish Human Geneticist Reich claimed that the Indo-European language could have originated in what is now Iran. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reich_(geneticist)
His team colleague Anthony has now proven that the Khvalynsk culture from the Volga (not far from Stalingrad) is the original form of the Indoeuropeans.
http://studgendeutsch.blogspot.com/2019/08/es-ist-amtlich-das-urvolk-der.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khvalynsk_culture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_W._Anthony
Big trouble in “racialist” land: a “journo” has screwed their smartest head. https://www.amren.com/commentary/2020/01/photographer-mark-peterson-is-a-liar/
AND NOT ONE F-ING THING WILL BE DONE TO THIS DEGENERATE DISEASED SCUM. NOT ONE.
When you refuse to call out a 1400 year old ideology that continually spawns bully behaviors you become a perpetual victim never able to do enough to satisfy the bullies increasing appetite for victims. It’s causing mental illness on a global scale. Trump targeting Soleimani was actually a free world mental health necessity!!!
WELL. THE IRANIANS WERE INDIRECTLY RIGHT! SHOOTING AT THE PLANE WOULD CAUSE ENGINE PROBLEMS AND EXPLOSIONS! WOW!
HEY! HEY! HEY! COME & DIE WHEN YOU FLY IN IRANIAN UNFRIENDLY SKIES TODAY! ALLAH’S CURSE IS UPON YOU AS OUR MISSILES SURROUND YOU! OF COURSE, WE WILL DENY IT ALL, AS YOU THINK YOU ARE BIG AND TALL, TRYING TO DO BUSINESS WITH US IS A FATAL FUSS! OPPOSE OUR SANCTIONS TODAY, SO YOU CAN FLY ANY WAY! WITH US, IT’S ALL ONE WAY AND WE SEEK DEATH ANY WAY! CARE TO COME BACK NOW?
DEEPEST CONDOLANCES TO THE UKRAINIANS WHO DIED AS THEIR GOVERNMENT GETS WISER IN HOW IT CONDUCTS ITSELF! SINCE IT WAS BADLY ABUSED BY THE USA DEM-RAT PARTY UPPER CLASS WITH ITS WEALTH BEING SYSTEMATICALLY LAUNDERED AWAY BY THE BRIBE’MS I MEAN BIDENS AND PELOSI’S SON! CHECK OUT ONE AMERICA NEWS NETWORK AS THEY HAVE THE GOODS ON THE TWO UKRAINIAN NATIONAL PROSECUTORS THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION’S VP DEMENTIA, DADDY JOE BRIBE’M I MEAN BIDEN FIRED, ETC! SAD TRUTH IS THE UKRAINIANS MIGHT HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF STAYING FRIENDLY WITH THE RUSSIANS AS THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE COST THEM SO MUCH OF THEIR MONEY AND GIVEN THEM A BETTER RUB-DOWN!
It is somewhat understandable that the plane was shot down by accident in a time of war. BUT the world community should demand that the aircrafts flight recorder be turned over for an honest evaluation.
islam is trained from birth in deceit and treachery that we have little defense against.
It is somewhat understandable that the plane was shot down by accident in a time of war. BUT the world community should demand that the aircrafts flight recorder be turned over for an honest evaluation.
islam is trained from birth in deceit and treachery that we have little defense against.
was there someone on it they didn’t want to leave.
I am puzzled why they have not blamed Israel or Trump for this ‘accident’ = yet.
They announced shortly after the crash that it was a mechanical failure! I immediately knew it was shot down. They are handling those savages with kid gloves, afraid of upsetting them. Gloves off!! Bomb them back to the 7th century where they belong!!! Nuke and pave.
I believe this was terrorism on Iran’s part (Hamas). Will never know the truth. Ukraine should seize all communication with Iran unless an objective country reviews the black box.
The plane was obviously shot down by an Iranian missile. There is no other believable explanation.
If the deliberate murder of 180 civilians and the launch of the missiles are not sufficient provocations to take out the Ayatollahs and their nuclear and ballistic missile sites I do not know what else is required. I defer to our great President who deferred action after numerous provocations until Solomeni and his lieutenants in terror were lulled into exposing themselves. One thing we can be as certain as the sun rising is that the mad mullahs of Iran will provide further cause to destroy them. They can’t resist. They are not sane. They desire to be martyrs They are zealots inspired by their Devil religion into committing the most unspeakable attacks. I hope this deferral of decisive action is simply to build up time and find an opportunity to completely annihilate the mad mullahs. Trump is laying another trap and the mullahs will surely fall into it.