TAX THE POOR: Commie Bernie Promises To Raise Taxes On “Anyone Making More Than $29k”

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You didn’t think that Bernie would only tax the rich did you? When Marxist’s such as Bernie Sanders say they will only tax the rich, then you better watch your wallet. There are not enough rich people to pay for Bernie’s insanity. Not even close. The American middle class will pay a very big price if Bernie Sanders is elected POTUS.

Bernie Promises To Raise Taxes On “Anyone Making More Than $29k”

By Bongino.com, November 26, 2019:

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A lifelong socialist, Bernie often gives us the impression we could afford the world if only we taxed “millionaires and billionaires.”

He’s at least partially woken up to fiscal reality, and revised “millionaires and billionaires” downwards to $29,000.

Explaining additional taxes needed to fund his Medicare for all program, Bernie proposed effectively a new payroll tax of 4% on all income above $29,000. “What we will do, is have a 4% tax on income, exempting the first $29,000… What that means is that you are the average family earning $61,000 a year, that means we’re going to tax you on $31,000 at 4%.”

Or in other words, a new tax of $40 per $1000 earned after $29,000.

While this could be a fine deal for some, it does prove that contrary to the claims of the other Democrat front-runner. When Elizabeth Warren was asked about paying for her Medicare for all plan, she shortened “millionaires and billionaires” to just “billionaires.”  “It doesn’t raise taxes on anybody but billionaires,” Warren told reporters when asked what income bracket she defined as middle class. She added, “And you know what? The billionaires can afford it.”

In a country like Sweden, which has the entire array of social programs Bernie wants to bring to the U.S., the lowest tax bracket is 32%, and there’s a national sales tax of 25% on top of that.

I’ve found that whenever a politician tells you how much something will cost, or how much they’ll raise your taxes by, it’s a good idea to at least double that estimate. In this case, maybe quadrupling…

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Leroy Whitby
Leroy Whitby
4 years ago

So Bernie, the socialist, wants to raise taxes on me and my three children. Wonder what I’ll give up? Will it be dance lessons for my daughter? That’s more expensive than baseball for my son. Forget the piano and art lessons the youngest wants. Maybe my wife and I will go back to 1x a month dates rather than 2x a month. Or we could skip an annual trip for the kids to see grandpa . . . That will be great. Thanks you compassionate socialist you!

Suresh
Suresh
4 years ago
Reply to  Leroy Whitby

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Left/Liberals can only destroy countries like this Left/Liberal utopia http://tinyurl.com/yavxfl4m

…where its Gun Free zone, govt terrorises citizens and they hunt cats and dogs for food !

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

You DO know most Senators kinda NEED to have multiple homes, in order to cut down on travel between their home state and DC? It’s almost a requirement of their job, and they’d be spending much more on travel if they didn’t.
Bernie had just the 2 homes, until recent years, when his wife inherited a house after a death in her family.. They sold that to buy the lake house, which is relatively small and not something crazy compared to what most Senators have. Rather than retire or give up and take bribes, he’s still out there fighting for the working-class, so I don’t blame him for having a reasonable vacation home.
Context really takes the impact out of that smear.comment image

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

But comrade, if he’s a member of the proletariat and a working man, why does he NEED a $600,000 mansion on the shores of Lake Champlain?
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/08/bernie-sanders-summer-house

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago

Because a member of his wife’s family died and left them a house that wasn’t any use to them, so they sold it and bought a modest vacation house on a lake.. Again, wtf is the big deal with that?
Obviously you have no sense of comparison, otherwise you’d be complaining about the utterly absurd level of luxury and wealth that politicians like Trump flaunt around. Bernie’s got significantly less stuff than pretty much everyone else in the Senate. If he wants a comparatively small vacation house on lake, you’re embarrassing yourself to complain about that.
What matters to the working-class voter, is that his policies truly and transparently fight for them, he’s done it all his life, and he doesn’t take bribes, so we KNOW we can trust him. 😛

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

Bwahahahahaha, he’s a working class hero comrade?
‘His 2014 tax returns revealed that he and Jane made $205,617 that year, the bulk of which came from Sanders’s $174,000 Senate salary.’

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago

So what?

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

Apparently, working for wages is somehow ideologically impure?

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago

Is that supposed to be damning?
If so, why?

Suresh
Suresh
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

wow ! Why can’t they rent instead of second house ? The issue is where do they get that kind of money ? Their salary /perks would not allow it ?

And save the B.S about protecting working class. Let him be governor of state and show how his policy will work. High taxes only drives businesses to shut down. why would anyone run business if they have to give 90% as tax ?

Trump policy of 22% tax has boosted economy. Lowest unemployment in 45 years !

Look at Venezuela if you want Sanders America

ladywarrior
ladywarrior
4 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

…not to mention his private plane that he flies everywhere…..don’t forget that carbon foot print…..and he’s got AOC on his arm everywhere as she blathers on about climate change…..

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago
Reply to  ladywarrior

What private plane? He doesn’t own a private plane. Don’t make stuff up.
A couple years back, between campaign runs, he spent money flying on private jets for a bit, after making 2 mil from a book, so what?
When he started his campaign back up, he’s sworn off private flights, unless they’re absolutely necessary to reach a small airport for a harder to reach town on a tight schedule.
An individual’s “carbon footprint”, and trying to lower it on one’s own, is not going to help anything, especially not an important politician who’s trying to spread awareness about that issue. I’d like to see what ANY of your politicians have done to reduce their impact, cause we both know it’s nothing.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/bernie-sanderss-private-plane-rides-dont-matter.html

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

One does not need to own a plane, to fly in a private plane. You should know that, little one.
Bernard lives a lifestyle that less than 1/2 of 1% of the world’s population enjoys. He flies, tens of thousands of miles, in private jets. He has a vacation home. His wife borrowed millions, fraudulently, and still ran a college into the ground. Where did THAT money go?
He is just one more elitist snob that falls into the “Do as I say, not as I do.” Doing without is for the “little people”, NOT for Bernard.
Spouting bald face lies, little one, does not improve your position.

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago

Obviously not.. Compare him to other Senators. Bernie spent $300,000 in a two year period, on jet flights, while other candidates like Biden spent almost $1mil, just in Q3 of this year ALONE! Bernie flies commercial whenever possible, only relying on Jets to go places where commercial airlines do not, like smaller airports in flyover states.
As I’ve said before, his homes are generally smaller and less luxurious than most Senators.. Having multiple helps to cut down on travel waste. And his family is allowed to have vacations.
If you’re concerned about these things, you should start holding your politicians to those same standards.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

It’s not a comparison debate. It’s a two-faced debate. The ruling elite want to push programs on the “little people” that they, themselves, do not follow. I could not care less if Bernard owned twelve 747s and billion dollar mansions. It’s that he flies, private, and pushes programs that would drastically effect the lifestyles of “the little people”. Two-faced hypocrite. And, lest we forget, he’s a bald faced liar.

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago

Except none of Bernie’s plans would negatively impact/limit the little guy. His plans are purely geared towards helping those of them that need help, and re-balancing the playing field for the working-class back to where it should be, if productivity trends weren’t destroyed by trickle-down policies that took all that newly created productivity/profit from from workers. The ONLY people inconvenienced by Bernie’s plans ARE the elites, who gradually picked-away more and more from the working-class over these last 4 decades or so.
And also.. Yes, comparison is most important. It gives context to your supposed complaint, and shines light on the fact that Bernie is doing more to limit his impact on the environment that the VAST majority of other politicians. He cannot be expected to completely swear off air-travel, if he hopes to have ANY ability to reach people and have an impact, vs the other guys. Forgoing air-travel would ensure he loses. None of the other candidates bother to limit their jet usage one bit. Bernie is doing the best of any of any of them. And that is the only thing you bring to light, by pointing out how much he spent on jets, is the fact that he’s doing more about it than most!

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

That does NOT address his two-faced hypocrisy. Do as I say, not as I do …. what he demands is that the “little people” comply. Definitely NOT Bernard and his ruling elite. When I see him walk the walk, instead of demanding that the “little people” do, I shall continue to have the same opinion of that elitist.

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago

Yes. It does. He’s doing plenty to address it, compared to anyone else.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

In what way? Is he going to sell off two of his houses and donate that money to the national treasury or charity? Is he going to fly coach, as opposed to luxury private? In no way, shape, or form have you addressed his hypocrisy … and of him being an elitist.

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago

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That’s you. You’re not contributing anything of value to the discussion. There is no validity in trying to claim someone is hypocritical, when they’re the only one actually attempting to do something.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

TOO funny, little one. You contribute nothing of value to society, as a whole. You are nothing but a loudspeaker for an elitist hypocrite who, also, is a bald faced liar. Moreover, if those drawings had to be made, inclusive of dialogue, from something with the intellect of an aphid. That’s why people laugh AT you, and your ilk … You constantly HUMILIATE yourself.

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

I like that one with Ben Shaprio popping up from the well, like the little goblin he is 🙂

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago

He reduced his reliance on jet travel, to a level FAR below any other candidate. And he does fly commercial.. Do you really not know these things? I bet you assumed his jet-expenses were a big number, and now you can’t accept it’s a relatively small one. lmao When he does use Jets, he only using them to reach places commercial doesn’t go or when something unexpectedly tightens the schedule.
And his policies would do more to help the working-class and address climate change, than any other candidate. So I think we can accept that he has to use the same methods to get around as candidate he’s gotta compete with.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

When Bernard flies commercial, it is a DOCUMENTED FACT that he flies either business class or first class. Why tell such lies? As far as taking private only to places not serviced by commercial, that can be DOCUMENTED as a bald faced lie. I flew ALL over the world, in a former life. I travelled to some rather remote areas without ONCE flying “private”. Why do you, and your ilk, insist upon telling lie, upon lie, upon lie? Cannot you see that you are so easily caught in your lies? Cannot you see how that HUMILIATES you … and your master Bernard?

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago

You get far to easily hung up on small typos, and then focus your whole reply on that, rather than the overall points being made. It’s like you find an easy-out to latch onto, then ignore everything else. Do you realize it makes you sound like everything is flying over your head?

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

I have not even referenced your exceedingly poor grammar and syntax. I have taken issue with your bald faced lies. You typed that Bernard flew coach, when he flies either business class or first class. That is a documented fact. You lied when you stated that Bernard only flies luxury private, when he cannot get there on commercial flights. Which, little one, is another bald faced lie. Do you realize that each time that you do so (tell such extremely unbelievable and easily misproven lies) only HUMILIATES you .. and, by association all other supporters of Bernard? TOO funny, little one.

santashandler
santashandler
4 years ago

That one, like all Sander’s supporters, is laboring under a severe mental disorder, commonly known as liberalism. The only chance of having even close to a “normal” life for those people, is a minimum of intense electro-shock therapy everyday for the rest of her life. It won’t cure her disorder, but it’ll give the orderlies an opportunity to experiment with varying voltages/amps, and it may provide some good bonding time among them.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  santashandler

TOO forkin’ funny. Do you believe that a frontal lobotomy might ease her suffering?

santashandler
santashandler
4 years ago

I’d like to think so, but you never know with deranged liberals.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

How is he addressing his elitist “Do as I say, not as I do.”? I could not care less if someone spends their own money and lives a luxurious existence. I DO care, however, of Bernard and his ilk, that live in the lap of luxury … but don’t want the “little people” to live as they desire. Hypocrite perfectly defines Bernard.

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

You’d have to ask him. Afaik, property is a good investment, so why shouldn’t he have them? It’s still less than what the VAST majority of other Senators hav, and they’ve got far more luxurious stuff than what Bernie has.

Trump hasn’t boosted the economy, those numbers are BS, he road the trends Obama left him then messed it all up, and now most experts say we’re headed for another recession thanks to Trump! Wake up, Trump was only in it for himself, his tax cuts haven’t resulted in any benefit, and only make balancing the budget harder.
If you’re gonna bring up Venezuela in this context, you’re showing how misinformed you are. Venezuela’s downfall had NOTHING to do with “socialism”, and everything to do with well-documented international interference over their oil, sanctions, and corruption that we made worse. It was almost as if they intentionally sabotaged them, because how dare they try socialism, lets do everything we can to them, to ensure it fails, then we can use them as an example to prevent anyone else from going that route.

Suresh
Suresh
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

Lowest unemployment in 45 years . Obama never achieved it, inspite of running maximum debt of all presidents since America was born. USD 11 trillion. Bush was next worse with USD 6 Trillion.
And Muslim obama brought in 2 Million plus jihadis who will be threat for future generations and we are seing rise of jihadi crimes and anti-semitism just like Nazi Germany. And Bernie supports them like true Nazi dictator.
And Bernie is a crook with no real Job and he got those Million dollar homes. It may be cheap for dumb nuts like you.

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

Arguably Obama did achieve it. The unemployment numbers were on a trend that BEGAN under Obama, HE got it moving in that direction, and it would have reached that record regardless of who the next president would have been. Don’t start spouting racist garbage unless you want me to think your a racist.
And ya finished it off with a bunch of lies about Bernie too.. His homes are not worth a Million. Bernie has had plenty of jobs, including Mayor and Senator, which are some pretty impressive achievements, I’d like to see YOU become a mayor or senator. It’s only not a real job when it’s a socialist, huh? It’s certainly cheap compared to other Senators, but frankly I think he deserves a few nice things, for being one of the only politicians who doesn’t take corporate/wealthy bribes, and for fighting for civil rights and worker’s rights for decades.

Suresh
Suresh
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

Just B.S. No trend. No jobs came back. Jihadis were welcomed by the 200,000 every month legal and illegal just like EU. Trump stopped it, Dems opposed him every step of the way. Just shows Dems are anti-american and pro-jihadi like u

Mayor , senator ? u mean one of the typical corrupt Demonrat mayors/senators ?

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

Calling people “Jihadis” only because of their religion/race/country of origin is quite clearly racist, to anyone that’s not a racist. You don’t see it, cause you’ve normalized your use of it.. But it clearly has negative connotations, and you’re using it to describe a group of people who overwhelmingly do NOT fit that description or connotation, and would be offended by the suggestion.
BTW, I am not a “liberal”.

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

Nitpick over semantics all you want, you want me to get more specific, FINE.. It is still obviously wrong to generalize a whole group of people with a negative connotation like that, they are individuals with different views, and you cannot make such a claim.
That is called prejudice, and in this case it’s just as bad as racism, which is just a form of prejudice specific to race. Prejudices of all kinds can result in the same type of negative hateful/violent behavior toward that group, as prejudice based in racism. So people just default to defining similar forms of prejudice, especially WHEN it’s over a religion/nationality, which is what you’re talking about, as racist.. Your belief that every Muslim believes in jihad is just offensively wrong.
You are labeling a whole group of people as evil/enemies, and insisting they believe in something most do not. By your EXACT SAME LOGIC, our old Bibles say some pretty horrible stuff too, but we obviously no longer believe that stuff, so quit defining modern immigrants by their old books, if we don’t define ourselves by ours.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

Not exactly true, little one. When obimbo took office, the official unemployment rate was 6.2%. By the end of obimbo’s first year in office, the official unemployment rate was slightly over 10%. By the end of his second year on office, it was still around 9.3%.
That doesn’t sound like he BEGAN a positive trend, does it little one?
But, of course … that was booshie’s fault.

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago

Why did you pick those first two years and stop?

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike the human

Follow them up, give them. Why haven’t you done so?

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago

Let’s see…

From the high of 10% in October 2009, it went a little something like this… (The formatting’s going to be awful. Sorry in advance)
Year Rate Change from last year
2010 9.4 -.6
2011 8.8 -.6
2012 7.8 -1.0
2013 7.2 -.6
2014 5.7 -1.5
2015 5.0 -.7
2016 4.9 -.1
2017 4.1 -.8
2018 3.8 -.3
2019 3.6 -.2

P.S. Do you know if Disqus supports tables?

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike the human

Averaging out the eight years, of the obimbo administration, they make the booshie economy look like it was a steam roller. How did the United States of America EVER survive obimbo’s eight years?

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago

Same way it survived every other administration. People are resilient, and a country isn’t defined by its unemployment rate.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike the human

Unless they’re sucking at the taxpayer’s teat, unemployment makes one unable to survive. How does one provide food, clothing and shelter, without gainful employ? Other, than to steal the fruits of OTHERS’ labor, by sucking off of the taxpayer?

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago

Also, run a regression analysis on that data. A single average doesn’t reflect trends.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike the human

One is not looking at trends. Rather, the number of human beings forced into abject poverty. Once proud people forced into sucking off the teat of hardworking taxpayers. It’s the overall number. Regression analysis, in this case, is solely to hide the truth, proven by irrefutable facts.

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago

Yep. Times were rough for a lot of people.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike the human

Not the times. It was the House of Representatives. Things weren’t that pretty for me. However, in no way, shape, or form did I stoop to sucking off of the taxpayer’s teat. I may not be a solution, but I refused to be part of the problem. Stealing from hardworking people, via government handouts, is something that I have not stooped to doing.

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago

If you pay taxes, you pay into an unemployment insurance fund.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike the human

The U.S. Department of Labor’s Unemployment Insurance program is funded through unemployment insurance taxes paid by employers and collected by the state and federal government. The taxes are part of the often-discussed payroll taxes all employers pay. Employers pay federal taxes of 6 percent on the first $7,000 in annual income earned by every employee. Employers who pay on time get a tax break at 5.4 percent.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

You are spouting TOTALLY DEBUNKED bald faced lies about Venezuela, little one. TOO funny. You are making yourself a laughing stock.

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

Renting doesn’t build any equity. It’s only good for the landlord, who accumulates wealth without labor.

Suresh
Suresh
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike the human

You must be top class nut for not getting the context and shooting ur mouth.
For equity he has one house.
How many folks get house in every place they go ? Even Warren Buffet owns only 1 house.
After taxes and upkeep cost of owning so many houses for self use is something only super rich can afford. so how does he manage with just being senator ?

And I’m sure Hillary is also “poor” Honest politician. LOL !

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

Feel free to review the Senator’s last ten years of taxes.
https://berniesanders.com/tax-returns/

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

If you’re arguing that Senators have too much access to money, I won’t argue with you there.

That said, if you’re making 174,000 W2, and manage to sell a book and get some speaking gigs, why not treat yourself?

TristanPlays-Minecraft Pocket
TristanPlays-Minecraft Pocket
4 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

“The drop in the unemployment rate was primarily due to a decline in the labor force participation rate, which fell to a 2016 low of 62.6 percent” Trumps 22% tax is permanent for corporations, while the individual perks, namely the working class, only last 10 years.

https://www.investopedia.com/taxes/trumps-tax-reform-plan-explained/
https://itep.org/wp-content/uploads/housetaxplan.pdf
Assuming the american country is so unlucky there isn’t another tax reform, in 10 years the richest 1%, including Mr. Donald Trump, will be taxed the least.
Do some research before you go around making ludicrous claims.

volksnut
volksnut
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

so thats why they need all that extended vacation time – multiple residences to take care of –

ladywarrior
ladywarrior
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

Actually, the “word on the street” is Killary and the DNC bought Bernie the $625,000 beach house so he would bow out gracefully and let her have a clear path to run against President Trump. Too much of a coincidence that he didn’t kick up a fuss with the DNC just as he got the nice beach property.

Bottomline…the people of Vermont must be sickos to keep putting this Gonif in office.

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago
Reply to  ladywarrior

What a load of lies. Don’t spread baseless debunked conspiracy theories. This isn’t some secret finances or dark money kept secret from the public, this was well documented and they were completely transparent about it.

ladywarrior
ladywarrior
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

I don’t know what dope you are on, but I at least now know you are a paid troll…..Adios….

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago
Reply to  ladywarrior

I wish. ;P What a lame assumption/excuse to discount opposing opinions.

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

I’m still waiting for my check from Soros for supporting the Guns and Dope party.

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  ladywarrior

Once you Gonif…

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago
Reply to  Leroy Whitby

Actually, nope. That’s backwards. Bernie wants to lower what you pay.
Families like yours have to spend thousands out of their paychecks, in order to cover their usually-employment-linked Insurance company, in order to get healthcare.
Bernie wants to remove that fee you pay, and replace it with a small tax that for most families will be FAR less than what they’re paying for insurance now. You’d keep more of your paycheck, and it would also likely be more comprehensive coverage with dental/vision/hearing all covered.
Saving thousands each year could mean an extra or longer vacation for the family! 😉

Leroy Whitby
Leroy Whitby
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

I love my current healthcare. Bernie wants to end it and raise my taxes. He sucks.

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago
Reply to  Leroy Whitby

You love paying an unnecessary middle-man? You’d rather pay them more, than pay a smaller tax for the same/better care? That doesn’t make any sense, you want to be ripped off?
No, you don’t love your insurance company, you love your CARE, your doctors, and places you go to get care. Those things will not change, if anything you’ll be able to get even better care, because your doctor won’t be denied doing the tests they want to do.
Bernie wants save you money and get you even more care! Bernie2020!

BettyO
BettyO
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

My best friend married a Canadian years ago. She raved about the free health care. Then she came to LA for surgery she could not wait for, odds were against survival if she waited.

This real-life example, after everything I had read and heard about the British system, put me off socialized medicine forever.

I never believed my taxes would pay for abortions. I believe my taxes should not pay for free health care for illegal aliens. Or gender-transition surgery for imprisoned lawbreakers? Will I be proven wrong again?

santashandler
santashandler
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

And for people like you, you’ll get “better care” when you’re in the state mental hospital. Why, you’ll probably get a daily menu, points for good behavior toward weekend furloughs, etc. Oh yeah, you’ll be much better off under Sander’s. GTFO of here!

santashandler
santashandler
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

And for people like you, you’ll get “better care” when you’re in the state mental hospital. Why, you’ll probably get a daily menu, points for good behavior toward weekend furloughs, etc. Oh yeah, you’ll be much better off under Sander’s. GTFO of here!

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago
Reply to  Leroy Whitby

You love paying an unnecessary middle-man? You’d rather pay them more, than pay a smaller tax for the same/better care? That doesn’t make any sense, you want to be ripped off?
No, you don’t love your insurance company, you love your CARE, your doctors, and places you go to get care. Those things will not change, if anything you’ll be able to get even better care, because your doctor won’t be denied doing the tests they want to do.
Bernie wants save you money and get you even more care! Bernie2020!

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

Yeah, like Kentucky Colonel Sanders will be using socialized medicine. Get bent comrade.

Steve
Steve
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

You have displayed on of the most profoundly ill informed posts about socialized medicine. Have you even looked at the tax rate in the Nordic Countries? Have you even looked at France, Germany, etc that dictated what a Dr. can and cannot charge? Have you looked at the UK’s NHS that TURNS AWAY patients and denies even cataract procedures? Do pay any attention to the number of Canadians that come to the U.S. to get life saving care instead of dying while on a waiting list exceeding two years for some procedures? Please go do some homework.

sodacrackers2
sodacrackers2
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

You’re pulling our legs aren’t you?

ladywarrior
ladywarrior
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

….AND AT THE SAME TIME MAKING YOU TURN YOUR LIFE OVER TO THE FEDS……I think that hasn’t worked out for the people in Canada and the UK and other socialized medicine cess pools…..
Here is my favorite description of the meaning of Socialism:

The Late Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931 to 2005
“You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.”

Apparently, you haven’t ever been to a socialist country…..

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  ladywarrior

“What one person receives without working for” describes inheritance, stock dividends, rent income, and money market/commodity trading – the sources of real wealth in the American system.

volksnut
volksnut
4 years ago
Reply to  Leroy Whitby

you’re too kind – i can think of a whole list of explicatives to add to his name –

ladywarrior
ladywarrior
4 years ago
Reply to  volksnut

…..I chose the following when I describer him…..Freeloader, Poltroon, and my favorite, GONIF!

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  Leroy Whitby

What percentage of your income do pay for health insurance now?

Leroy Whitby
Leroy Whitby
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike the human

Mine is about 10% including vision, dental and out of pocket. I love my current situation.

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  Leroy Whitby

I’d prefer to pay 4 and invest the rest, but you do you. I’m just glad you’re happy.

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike the human

That’s a false dichotomy. Patients with medicare coverage can choose any doctor who accepts medicare. I currently have Blue Cross, which the Franciscan network doesn’t take. If we had a single payer system, I’d have MORE personal choice.

I don’t see anything about banning supplemental insurance, so if you want the platinum diamond plus plan with a private physician, there shouldn’t be anything stopping you.

Edited to add: And if everybody has coverage, we wouldn’t have people using the emergency room as a primary care physician, so that would streamline and lower costs overall.

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike the human

Currently, your health care belongs to your insurance company, unless you can pay out of pocket for procedures your for-profit company denies.

Leroy Whitby
Leroy Whitby
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike the human

You’d prefer to ignore 100 years of history and the current chaos in socialist Venezuela.

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  Leroy Whitby

Why don’t you tell us about your preferences instead of guessing about mine?

Leroy Whitby
Leroy Whitby
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike the human

Gee. You support socialized medical care and I have to “guess” what your preferences are?

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  Leroy Whitby

Do you honestly think that Venezuala’s economy collapsed because they had single payer healthcare?

Leroy Whitby
Leroy Whitby
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike the human

Do you honestly not know that Venezuela’s economy collapsed due to socialism?

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  Leroy Whitby

That, colossal mismanagement and graft, outside pressure and embargoes, and a national economy without a whole lot of diversity.

tl;dr: it’s complicated.

Leroy Whitby
Leroy Whitby
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike the human

Centralizing the economy leads to corruption. Just look at the Bidens with their 1.5 billion funds from China and millions from the Ukraine. That’s not a bug of socialism, it’s a feature. It’s inevitable, because there are not checks and balances. If Trump had not won, the looting of the USA would have been horrific. I find it amusing that socialists actually end up supporting the billionaire class, and its most corrupt members at that.

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  Leroy Whitby

You seem to be conflating socialism and authoritarianism.

How does supporting workers having an equal share in the decision making and profits of their companies actually end up supporting billionaires?

Leroy Whitby
Leroy Whitby
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike the human

By centralizing power, the corrupt are unchecked, so the Chinese give Biden’s drug addict son 1.5 billion for his firm, because Biden and his allies can give them so much more, since they control the centralized government power. It’s obvious if you look without party labels or ideology getting in the way. Just look at the payouts to the Clintons, Bidens.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago

Oh, yes. A national sales tax of 25%. I’m certain that Bernard is all in favor of that one. And, let’s be certain to NOT exclude food and medicine. That’s the ticket. I realize that Bernard has not seen fit to publicly announce that one. However, don’t worry. It’s coming.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago

Can U imagine that? I already pay 8.25% sales tax here in Californication so w/Bernie’s new sales tax I would be paying 33.25% sales tax on everything. Sales tax is, by its very nature, regressive. So much for Communist Benard trying to help out the working proletariat.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago

Ohio, overall, isn’t a top tax state. The state income tax is towards the high end, but not as draconian as many. However, in this part of the state, The World Capitol of Corruption (Cuyahoga County), depending upon the municipality …. property tax as high as 5%(+) of assessed valuation, which increases dramatically every triennial. Local earnings tax (yes, it includes investment income) of 3.75% … and that’s from dollar one … and, of course, where would we be without our 8% sales tax.
So, if I’m much behind Khalif-ornia … it ain’t by that much.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago

And I thought the Mid-West was conservative…

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago

The nation, pretty much, is divided at the Missouri River. I’m a little over a three hour drive to New York State. At the speed limit, I’m fifteen to sixteen hours, all freeway, to the Missouri River. How in the world is that “Midwest”?

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago

At one point the Midwestern states were the frontier — back in the late 18th century.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago

Considering early Eighteenth Century, say 1702, wouldn’t that make New York State the Midwest?

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago

Your numbers/math is not accurate.. Frankly, you’re being disingenuous by leaving out important facts. (Which is lying by omission fyi.)
Bernie’s plan would remove the HUGE tax we already pay out of our paychecks, TO INSURANCE COMPANIES tied to our employment. That is usually Thousands per year for most families! And yet Insurance Companies do not provide comprehensive coverage, they deny for profit.
The tax Bernie is proposing would be a LOT less for most people, than what they currently pay for insurance, and it would be more comprehensive care, covering more things like dental/vision/hearing, which most insurance does not.
We’re talking about saving money, not a new charge on the poor.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

So, Bernard is going to expand Medicare to include “dental/vision/hearing”? Title Act XVIII has NEVER covered those items. So, how will that total change, to Medicare, take effect … and when?

Leroy Whitby
Leroy Whitby
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

So taxing the poor to pay for medical care for better off people is socialist efficiency? It sounds more like they want our money to increase their power. Bernie is a millionaire and he’s never worked a day in his life.

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago
Reply to  Leroy Whitby

That’s not how it works. It wouldn’t be “taxing the poor” to pay for those who are better off.. There’s a significant difference between the income level of those groups, and thus obviously the % they’re taxed collects significantly more money than the % taken from the poor. Don’t act like you don’t know this math, pretending to know less than you do, does not help make a point, it just wastes time making the other side have to explain something you already know.
Everyone needs healthcare, multiple times in their life. The amount the poor pay is not enough to “pay for medical care for better off people”, it only barely covers what they’ll end up using, maybe a bit less, because the larger amount gained by taking a % of wealthier people, makes up for that. Again, obviously how taxes work. Oh, and don’t give me that smear, being a Senator is a legitimate job. Bernie made 2mil off a book, and is now back to his previous income level, big deal. He’s one of the least wealthy senators, and one of the only that doesn’t take any big donations from lobbyists/corporations/rich. Not many can resist that temptation to keep fighting against money in politics, to end that corruption and bring the voice back to the people.

Leroy Whitby
Leroy Whitby
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

You are full of it. Look at what you wrote defending taxing poor people. F’ off.

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago
Reply to  Leroy Whitby

No, I explained how this taxes poor people LESS, so the correct observation would be that I’m AGAINST taxing poor people, because this lowers what they pay.. Their taxes couldn’t possibly cover “better off people”. That’s just silly, when the normal conservative attack is they don’t want their taxes to pay for poor people.. You can’t have it both ways. lmao

Leroy Whitby
Leroy Whitby
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

Bernie MUST raise taxes on the poor. Of course. How noble!

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago
Reply to  Leroy Whitby

Bernie WILL save the poor tons of money on healthcare, and ensure everyone gets full comprehensive care/coverage! Keep thinking the opposite if you want, but the reality of this is obvious to most voters.

Leroy Whitby
Leroy Whitby
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

I know. We all SAVE, SAVE, SAVE when the government spends! Funny how government spending goes up and the savings rate goes down in the USA.

famouswolf
famouswolf
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

The reality is, you don’t have the least idea what you are talking about. Or perhaps you are blowing smoke on purpose. Either way you are so removed from any understanding of a complex matter your blather is insulting. Among other little problems is the fact that such a tax would only be the beginning, because it would never cover all Sander’s wish list of proposals for free this and that. It also demonstrates his willingness to tax people near poverty.
I’ll fight Sanders tooth and nail, at the ballot box and if necessary in real time with a rifle.
I don’t want his brand of ‘help’, and I don’t appreciate your bs here on this board. Screw yourself and the communist you rode in on.

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago
Reply to  famouswolf

lol and you think i’m the crazy one.. your the one threatening using a rifle, over providing everyone healthcare. You’ve been thoroughly brainwashed by conservative media.

tedlv
tedlv
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

They will save money by dying from government “health care”.

tedlv
tedlv
4 years ago
Reply to  Leroy Whitby

The poor and middle class don’t deserve their earnings. Only the NikoKuns and Bernies deserve those earnings. Serfs deserve nothing for their toils.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

Sure thing comrade, we believe you.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

“You can’t have it both ways. Lmao”

How is a new 4% income tax, taxing people less comrade? Oh that’s right only in your marijuana addled delusions comrade. Your lies run thin.

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago

It’s less because it takes away the bigger tax you pay to the insurance companies. Insurance companies may not be the government, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t essentially a tax on your paycheck.
Simple math. And I refuse to believe you don’t actually understand the math on this issue.. You’re all just being disingenuous, which is as bad as being hypocritical. Making yourselves out to be total idiots. If that’s how you want to argue against these issues, you’ll just be ignored by those who know better.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

No one pays a tax to the insurance companies comrade — because if they stop paying them they’re not arrested and charged w/tax evasion.
Would that 4% additional tax be capable of sustaining health insurance to illegal aliens comrade?

What about that 25% national sales tax Commissar Bernard proposed? Please tell me how that doesn’t qualify as more taxation.

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago

The assumption is, if everyone was covered by insurance, that fee is essentially a tax, forget about people that simply opt out. They are not an option, they are a burden on everyone else, because our taxes have to pay for them when they finally DO get sick. Everyone needs healthcare. Not buying insurance is an absurd state to be in. The goal is to cover everyone.
That’s how taxes work, when you’re goal is to provide everyone healthcare, free at the point of service. Medicare4All is cheaper for most people, than forcing everyone to have health insurance in some form.
Do you want to be forced to buy expensive insurance? Or save money on a tax that funds medicare4all? Cause those are the only options. The goal is to cover everyone, the question is whether we save money and get everyone full care, or get ripped off by a middle-man that will always refuse full coverage.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

I’m sorry but health insurance is in no way a tax as it’s

a. paid to private corporations
b. not a criminal offense to not pay it.

“get everyone full care”. Does that include border jumping illegal aliens comrade?

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NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago

Obviously I’m not talking about “communism”, absolutely nothing I’ve said even remotely relates to communism.
Learn the difference between communism and socialism, as well as the difference between socialism in a dictatorship vs socialism in a modern democracy, before you try discussing them.. Otherwise you’re just showing everyone how misinformed/uneducated you are.
Our tax dollars ALREADY cover some healthcare for illegal immigrants, because hospitals are legally required to give care to anyone in need of emergency care. Do we waste money on it, like now? Or do we provide them more complete care, to reduce their dependence on emergency rooms, and thus LOWER the amount we spend on them, significantly?
The problem is, emergency care is expensive, while preventative care costs almost nothing. A universal healthcare system that fully covers every living person that exists here, saves money in the end, by reducing the amount of emergency-room visits from serious health issues that occur.

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

That’s just her opinion of socialism, not a definition, and frankly it’s a highly outdated opinion at that. Again, Ayn Rand is not a valid authority on socialism by it’s modern standards.
Pretty much ALL present-day wealthy nations have significantly larger social-programs than we do, and see positive results. Modern democracies are SURVIVING FINE with socialism deeply ingrained in their society, there are FAR more examples of socialism working well, than the isolated cases when you think it failed, but it in reality there were far bigger factors that caused those failures, than the social programs themselves. Only a shallow understanding, that seeks to blame socialism, thinks that.

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

BTW, thanks for at least engaging in discussion, even if we disagree. I get carried away, but I’m trying to come at this more reasonably when I can.
Nobody is arguing for “full and complete socialism” not by a long shot. And socialist welfare programs are perfectly sustainable in the majority of other modern wealthy nations, they’ve proven it works and works well for decades, but conservatives just find excuses to ignore that. We can do it just as good as they do, we can catch up with them in world-rankings if we try. America has always been good at taking what works from some other systems, and integrating them into our own system to find what works the best. We don’t have a strictly capitalist system, or a strictly anything else system, we have a blend.

NikoKun
NikoKun
4 years ago

Obviously I’m not talking about “communism”, absolutely nothing I’ve said even remotely relates to communism.
Learn the difference between communism and socialism, as well as the difference between socialism in a dictatorship vs socialism in a modern democracy, before you try discussing them.. Otherwise you’re just showing everyone how misinformed/uneducated you are.
Our tax dollars ALREADY cover some healthcare for illegal immigrants, because hospitals are legally required to give care to anyone in need of emergency care. Do we waste money on it, like now? Or do we provide them more complete care, to reduce their dependence on emergency rooms, and thus LOWER the amount we spend on them, significantly?
The problem is, emergency care is expensive, while preventative care costs almost nothing. A universal healthcare system that fully covers every living person that exists here, saves money in the end, by reducing the amount of emergency-room visits from serious health issues that occur.

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

The people here either don’t math, or have ideological blinders on.

tedlv
tedlv
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

You’re definitely the absolute queen of BS! Congratulations!

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  tedlv

Based on the name, Niko is probably a young man.

tedlv
tedlv
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike the human

I stand by my assessment.

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  Leroy Whitby

If you make $50,000, you’ll pay $1,240 (about 2/5 or 40/100 of your income is in that marginal bracket). If you make one million dollars, you’ll pay $38,840 (about 97/100 of your income is in that marginal bracket).

See how it scales up?

Leroy Whitby
Leroy Whitby
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike the human

So I won’t be able to buy my daughter’s point shoes each month, which cost about $100, for her to do ballet. That will go the government instead because the government has better uses for my money than my daughter’s hopes and dreams.

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  Leroy Whitby

You’d have that extra 6% of your income to do with as you wish.
I hope things turn around for you, so you don’t have to make tough choices like that.

Leroy Whitby
Leroy Whitby
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike the human

Like after the government took over student loans from the banks? That kind of awesome economic freedom? Or when Obama destroyed working automobiles when people needed cars and messed up the used car market? Or the awesome wars Obama waged? Or the government bailouts of banks when people needed jobs and incomes? Yah, the government is great.

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago
Reply to  Leroy Whitby

1. You can still get private loans.
2. Yeah, Obama was a Wall Street shill. He should have let the corrupt big banks collapse under their own weight, and made their decision makers pay their debts to society, instead of propping up the status quo.

Leroy Whitby
Leroy Whitby
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike the human

Yup, Bush and Obama were the same. Trump is different and far less corrupt.

World@70
World@70
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

There are a few things I haven’t heard Bernie explain. Is this 4% tax that Bernie claims, in addition to the taxes paid under the current tax code? Has Bernie explained that? If it truly is a 4% tax over $29k, then it would be a tax reduction, but then 4% couldn’t pay for health care. The 4% would need to be in addition to existing taxes, but even then it couldn’t cover “Medicare for all”. In fact I doubt it would even cover those currently on Medicare.

Remember politicians lie and socialists are the best at it.

tedlv
tedlv
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

After 0bamacare passed, over a period of three years, my premiums quadrupled. I dropped my wife and daughter (They were covered by their own jobs). My deductible went from $250 for the three of us to $12,500 for just me! Does that sound good to you? Bernie wants to make it infinitely worse for people who work for a living.

Government involvement in the industry will result in massive delays, and many unnecessary deaths.

I can only surmise you don’t object to the obvious theft from the people who work fo a living, is that, either you don’t work, you are filthy rich, or you’re completely and deliberately uninformed.

But you’re a leftist, so you think depopulation is a good thing. I don’t.

Steve
Steve
4 years ago
Reply to  NikoKun

Read my post above to your other post. U know not of what you speak. How’s an income tax ranging from just over 50% to 53% in the Nordic Countries PLUS a 25% VAT TAX? In the Netherlands they loose almost 60% of their income to taxes to fund their health care and other social programs. I live over in Europe and see it every day.

Ziggy46
Ziggy46
4 years ago

Those who trod behind this devout Communist are equally as mad Bernie. From what one garners from the polls, Bernie is championing in the Democrat’s bid for the Presidency. What the hell is wrong with the citizens, the electorate of this Republic. Now, his utterance of taxing the poor, 29k/year, is preposterous. It betrays and confirms the man, his politics, his antisemitism, his anti-Americanism, his unabated hate-mongering mandate spells utter doom for the nation.

‘We the People’; in Bernie’s jaundiced eye, even those struggling to make ends meet, are undeserved of quality of life. A true Communist to the end, Bernie Sanders’ Commie diktat aligns with Lenin, Stalin, or Mao. He and his British counterpart Jeremy Corbyn are a toxic measure from which they and their betrayers will profit, not the everyday American or Brit.

volksnut
volksnut
4 years ago
Reply to  Ziggy46

I live in southern commiefornia – San Diego – years ago it was stated in the news that at 50k a year here you were borderline poverty level – I wonder what the berns income/net worth is? just like stalin and the rest of the ” hierarchy ” they live in abject luxury while the rest are reduced to middle ages serfdom –

Ziggy46
Ziggy46
4 years ago
Reply to  volksnut

I lived in California while attending college many decades ago. It was bad enough then, I can only imagine how it is now. The likes of the Hollywood Commie Elite, Susan Sarandon, and others will continue to shop in the elitist-stores for the privileged, while the masses line-up for a loaf a bread or their ration of meat or tofu. Hang-in, volksnut!

volksnut
volksnut
4 years ago
Reply to  Ziggy46

I grew up in the San Fernando Valley we moved there in early 1962 – It was a great place to grow up.Outside of the manson family being about a mile away at the Spahn Movie Ranch – We hiked the creek right behind it 15 feet away while they were there and never saw a soul..It was a great place until brown became Gov his first go round – Have some close friends that we’re all staunch Constitutional Conservatives –

Ziggy46
Ziggy46
4 years ago
Reply to  volksnut

I know the area,damn nice back when. I was in LA around the time of Manson and his disciples wreaked helter-skelter. The so-called SDS, the Counter Revolutionaries were spinning its wheels, the likes of Brown, Hanoi Jane, Hayden shi**ing on the flag and our troops. I remember all, too, well. I and many others had to pay for our education, and didn’t partake in all the a-wipes’ Commies running around the Maypole crap. I haven’t returned – I doubt I ever will but never say never. There was much I loved about California but the encroachment of the loony-lefties as mentioned. Take care.

santashandler
santashandler
4 years ago
Reply to  Ziggy46

There’s nothing to return here for. The gov wants more and more of our taxes to pay for tents for the homeless (take one look at downtown L.A. and you’ll see just how much money was spent on those). You can’t buy a box of ammo anymore in this BS state without going through the paperwork and red tape akin to buying a house. And gas prices are some of the highest in the country (I found one gas station that had regular gas for $5.09/gal. last week). And the “Governor” can’t place restrictions on CA citizens fast enough. Just getting worse by the day here.

Ziggy46
Ziggy46
4 years ago
Reply to  santashandler

Hi, santashandler; you are right, of course; I was taught never to say never, which in itself is ironic. I have seen the bull-you know what on the news when I can stomach it. It is utterly insane, inane but sanity is a rarity today throughout America and the West. God, I feel badly for the decent folks of California.

I read that many conservative Californians are seeking refugee status in States or cities not afflicted, inflicted by by Democratic/Marxism/Fascism… Hell, Maoism. Take care, stay safe, healthy, as said I feel for you and the decent Californians.

santashandler
santashandler
4 years ago
Reply to  Ziggy46

Yes, Ziggy, there are a few conservative cities left in Ca. But, the POS governor, is doing his best to see that there are none.

Ziggy46
Ziggy46
4 years ago
Reply to  santashandler

I watch the news on one of the LA stations, KTLA, once in a while. I hear all the BS spewed from the gobs of the governor and every leftist turd sucking air out of the planet. I am glad to be old; I worry about the younger generations and subsequent generations. Not, merely, in California but the entire nation; hell, the entire West. Take care.

ladywarrior
ladywarrior
4 years ago
Reply to  Ziggy46

We should kick Vermont out of the United States….then no one from there could run in our elections……I judge states by those they elect to represent them…..Vermont keeps electing the old sicko Commie…..says a lot about who these people are…..

Ziggy46
Ziggy46
4 years ago
Reply to  ladywarrior

Amen, ladywarrior, I hope all is well.

carpe diem 36
carpe diem 36
4 years ago

This thing called Bernie makes me want to puke. He is not just crazy, but so disgusting that I do not understand how people listen to him. He is a selfish P O S with his three houses who thinks that $29.000 is too much for people to have and must be taxed. Maybe they should just never publish what he says so that we forget about him. I hope he will die soon. Of natural causes of course.

Roma Mikhasev
Roma Mikhasev
4 years ago

ordinary dems

satcatchet
satcatchet
4 years ago

Folks, you can forget what Bernie Commisanders has to say about anything because he is not getting elected to anything let alone the dog catcher. All this crying is for nothing, he simply is not going to be elected.

ed
ed
4 years ago

I can’t take this guy seriously. First reason being the obvious fact that he is a LUNATIC Marxist. Secondly because he was bought and paid off by Hillary in 2016. Nothing like dropping out of the race to give Hillary the nomination, as long as he was compensated with a beautiful and expensive lakefront mansion.

If I were Steyer or now even Bloomberg, I would see what kind of property would make Bernie feel like dropping out this time around…..

Steve
Steve
4 years ago

Interesting that he picks a number just under the federal guidelines for poverty for a family of 5.

https://www.thebalance.com/federal-poverty-level-definition-guidelines-chart-3305843

sodacrackers2
sodacrackers2
4 years ago

What a buffoon!

volksnut
volksnut
4 years ago

Just as Churchill stated ” the only redeeming quality of communism/socialism is the equal sharing of misery “

william carr
william carr
4 years ago

Does he seriously want to be elected POTUS. The first communist pres. of USA?
He presumably wants the poor to pay for the ‘free’ education of the well off!

ladywarrior
ladywarrior
4 years ago

We all know what the old commie -Bernie – intends to do to our country…..a better question is……why do the people of Vermont keep voting him in????
It says more about them than Bernie….

selwap
selwap
4 years ago
Reply to  ladywarrior

I suspect that Bernie gets reelected for the same reason as Nancy, Chucky and Mad Max. People want them living far away from their own neighborhoods.

Cauc-Asian Patriot
Cauc-Asian Patriot
4 years ago

THE BERN WILL BURN YOU MIDDLE CLASS FOLKS LIKE HIS WIFE DID A COLLEGE SHE WAS INVOLVED WITH ON A REAL ESTATE DEAL! THE COLLEGE ENDED UP CLOSING THE LOCATION COMPLETELY WORSE OFF THAN BEFORE AFTER SHE LEFT! AT LEAST THE BERN IS WILLING TO ADMIT THE DEM-WITS REALLY WANT TO STEAL YOUR GUNS TOO! I’M MORE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT PRES. TRUMP’S RE-ELECTION EVERY DAY! HAPPY THANKSGIVING AND HOLIDAYS TO ALL RIGHTISTS!

Stephen Honig
Stephen Honig
4 years ago

Communist and self hating Jew!

Anna Konda
Anna Konda
4 years ago

Isn’t it way past time that this lunatic was committed???

Mike the human
Mike the human
4 years ago

I’m paying just over 4% per paycheck for my PPO.
Bernie’s plan would actually save me money.

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