Will the elites heed his warnings? No, they will call him a racist-islamophobic-anti-muslim-muslim-bigot.
Egyptian-Canadian Writer: Westerns are Naive about Islam
By staff, MEMRI, January 23, 2019:
Story continues below advertisementFear and distrust of Islam is not without merit. Islamophobia, as touted by apologists, is an ‘irrational’ fear of Islam. There is nothing irrational about fearing an ideology that wishes to dominate. Egyptian-Canadian writer Said Shoaib warns of Islamism, and the lack of understanding that Westerners have of what is really being taught in Western/Canadian mosques.
Video transcript via Memri TV
“The imams here do something that deceives many people, especially in the West. They talk, for example, about the greatness of the Islamic caliphate. Does this constitute terrorism? It does. The [Westerners] do not realize that this is terrorism. When you embrace the notion of a colonialist Islam that raids nations, takes them over, and controls them – you are a terrorist. You are an unarmed terrorist, until the opportunity presents itself…
I sent my Arabic books that are against political Islam to a library here [in Canada]. I was happy to find here a book of mine, which had nothing to do with Islam. I wanted to donate my books to them because they had just opened up. So I gave them two books against political Islam, but that public library rejected them. They sent me formal mail…
Hamed Abdel-Samad: They probably cited “Islamophobia”…
Said Shoaib: They told me that my books are in violation of Canadian values.
Hamed Abdel-Samad: These values welcomes violent Islam but reject criticism of political Islam?
Said Shoaib: I take a stand against people who hate Canada and want to destroy it. These people have stated that this is their intention. They even said so in books that this library approved, can you believe that? A normal Muslim – whether he was born here or whether he immigrated – has no alternative form of Islam. You find this form of Islam in the mosques, in the sermons… This is the form of Islam that you see in the Islamic schools here. I did not send my daughters to Islamic schools here, out of fear. They conceal their curricula, force young girls to war the hijab, and so on… If a Muslim here does not become a terrorist, he must be a great man. We should thank him for being a good, peace-loving human being, because the natural course of events is for him to become a terrorist.
Hamed Abdel-Samad: A strange thing is that when these people lived in their countries of origin, they did not allow the Christians to build churches, they despised the Christians and the Baha’is, and they did not help people of other religions with their rights. But when they come to the West, they not only demand their right to worship, and their right to practice their religious rites freely, but they also demand that no one criticize their religion. Here in Canada, they audaciously criticize the Christians, the Jews, the West, and secularism… There is no such thing as “secular-phobia”… There is no “Christian-phobia”…
Said Shoaib: And no “Zoroastrian-phobia.” This was invented by the Islamists.
Hamed Abdel-Samad: The problem is that the Islamists are the people most contemptuous of other religions.
Said Shoaib: Yes, of course.
Hamed Abdel-Samad: But when they come here, they want a law to prevent criticism of their religion. Another strange things is that a naïve government like the Canadian one… I know I am a guest here, but I say what I think everywhere… The prime minister of this naïve government [Justin Trudeau] is very strange. According to his naïve and romantic fantasy, everybody should hold hands and hug and kiss one another. Yet he does not know what these people teach in their mosques.
Said Shoaib: I am baffled by the Canadian politicians who talk about Islam. They don’t know Islam. If you want to learn about Islam, you can ask us. Do not ask just people of one type. Another big mistake in Canada and the West is that representatives of the Muslim [community] are the Islamists.
A lot of blood will be shed here in the West, and the Muslims will pay the price. They will be number one… If the politicians in the West do not know how to stop this [terrorist] wave, the ordinary Westerners will choose the most extremist [leader]. There are indications for that. Trump has won in America. The Conservative party has won the government of Ontario. More extreme people are yet to come. If today’s politicians fail to provide security for the people in the West, they will take matters into their own hands. And who will be the victims? The normal Muslims who have nothing to do with this.
The main plan of the Islamists is to destroy Western civilization. They said so themselves!”
Mr Shoaib speaks in this video of Imams in Canada advocating for an Islamic Caliphate, and goes on to say that this is terrorism. When you embrace the notion of a colonialist Islam that raids nations, takes them over, and controls them – you are a terrorist.
Canadian Islamic scholar Mazin Abduadhim, based in London, Ontario is part of the political Islamist organization, Hizb ut-Tahrir. He is very clear in this organization’s pursuance of an Islamic Caliphate.
Hizb ut-Tahrir has been banned in many countries, yet is able to hold conventions and operate freely in Canada.
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(shiny pony) Turdeau and his muslim ass kissing liberal government are against CANADIAN values.
as if power hungry pandering politicians give a flying fawk – especially on the left, they have no skin in the game – most don’t even have children due to their alt lifestyle
The global elites don’t care.
Looks like the west is going to have to learn the hard way. They want to do this here.
Obama,Sarkozy, and the UN-backed Muslim challenger, Alassane Outtara, has forcefully ousted Christian President Laurent Gbagbo from office in a contested election, riddled with fraud, Reports of mass killings and human rights violations in western Ivory Coast – violations committed by Alassane Ouattara’s Muslim forces during post-election violence. Not a word from Barack Obama, he backed Ouattara, the Muslim challenger, against the Christian incumbent.We have seen next to nothing about the persecution of Christians in the mainstream media or press. The seeming embrace by the Left of Islamism is a paradox, perhaps explained by understanding progressivism as an anti-Western mindset. https://underheelofliberalism.wordpress.com/2013/04/07/obamas-second-related-christian-massacre-where-president-of-the-u-s-barack-obama-backed-the-muslims/
They may be part of Israel’s democratic government but they are far from integrated.
You would have to ask them.
I believe it will backfire on them.
That’s my opinion of such foolishness. They won’t have this salad bowl utopia either.
For Muslims it is always a numbers game with the hope of domination.
When you are constantly told that you are wrong, because the censorship, the media & government encourages you to think that way & you see logic, reason, rationality & justice in the argumentation you start to believe it.
That’s why it’s important to remove the censorship by Muhammadists on our life, reveal Muhammad’s injustice & the injustice of the Muhammad-law, war & tyranny.
It makes no sense dragging the idolization of the founder of the unjust Muhammad-law to the future.
Unjust Muhammad burned people for not praying, enslaved Africans, crucified critics, commanded the forcible lifelong torture of declitorization of girls, forced theism on anyone, raped, tortured, commanded to beat children, declared war on atheists, Jews & all other Non-muhammadists & ‘kissed’ penises of boys & sucked boys’ tongues & lips (see Wikiislam).
He is speaking the truth which will do more than ruffle the feathers of those of the leftist wing-nuts brigade, not to mention his fellow Muslims. The man has courage and principles that shame the politicians, the MSM , and every Islam loving Progressive. The Democrats, their former Messiah, Obama, not to overlook Justin Trudeau, his Liberal Party, and copious others will damn and perhaps ban this man from his Democratic rights. No one is shocked on this site, surely; his factual statement validates what this site has reported and supported from day one.
The problem is, the Progressivists, the Globalists do not give a toss; they are working hand-in-hand with Islam toward the Islamization of the West. We may scratch our heads, get riled, pis*ed off trying to appraise the whys and wherefores or figure out the so-called reasoning, logic, treasonous design and it adds up to naught. The bottom-line may not, but it is obvious the aspiration, treasonous intent is the end goal, the destruction of Western culture. This site and others prove that all Westerners are naive about Islam and its perfidious and its subversive allies. I am grateful that Pamela Geller and others are more than courageous by disseminating the facts of this barbaric, death Cult, Islam and the league of traitors
Agree. And the first Muslim democrat/socialist jihadi president imported 200,000 yearly legal and illegal muslims and deported christians back to ISIS to be slaughtered after they tried to make it to America http://tinyurl.com/mtc3xch
And those who dared to help were threatened to shut up and MSM would not cover it !
I truly believe that those who are pushing for diversity as their watchword have lost their way. He talks about “normal Muslim believers” (those that can reject the totalitarianism built into Islam), I have concluded that the belief system is inherently dangerous to western ways, and their ways cannot be changed to enable those believers to assimilate into western society. That reality is lost to western leaders who embrace “open borders.”
Well stated, Dennis.
Very few in the US understand the threat Islam presents to their way of life. Those who try to warn them, get banned from websites, laughed at, attacked for telling the truth, etc. The lovely Pam Geller is just one of those who tells the truth about Islam.
Afghanistan/Pakistan were once upon a time great centers of learning and trade between East and West. Persia was the other super-power of the world during Roman times. They were overrun by Islam and have today become violent basket-cases. The West should heed the writing on the wall as to it’s fate if it keeps importing Muslims by the millions or falls pray to soft invasions through propaganda.
Can’t believe people still believe in something like “Islamophobia”.
I don’t think most Westerners are naive about Mouslems. We just aren’t taking any action. We are just like sheep grazing in the grass. One wolf takes one but doesn’t seem to bother the rest of the sheep.
We just need to turn into wolves. What will it take?
“…westerns are naive about islam…”
No not all of us, because Pam’s readers are well informed and thus not naive about islam.
” Westerns are Naive about Islam “
We know more than enough to realize that Islam is the most corrupt, heartless, bloodthirsty, indecent, foulest creatures that have ever inhabited and despoiled our planet.
We know that Islam must be totally eradicated if there ever is to be peace on Earth.
The problem of Westerners judging Islam is they use their own values and assumptions as the basis to make that judgement. You can’t do that. Islam is based on a completely different set of values that is not compatible with Western Civilization.
I once had a conversation with a gentleman much like Mr. Hamed Abdel-Samad and I asked him why with all these reservations and fears of Islam he remained attached to the cult? I never received an answer,just a shrug of his shoulders. Islam maintains its holds over the most moderate of its adherents by fear, not just fear of ostracism, but fear of death, and this is why we of he West have to vow to annihilate this cult from the earth. It is more deadly than any conceivable criminal gang or political cult. We have only one choice: destroy it completely or die ourselves.
“I did not send my daughters to Islamic schools here, out of fear. They conceal their curricula, force young girls to war the hijab, and so on…”.
Give me a break! Why send them there in the first place? What good can come from that? Why not become an apostate and be done with the stinking fascist ideology of Islam in toto? I am so sick of Muslims in the West telling us infidels that we have to take the time to assiduously dissect and tease out the varying “types” of Islam and explore what’s in their hearts to root out the malevolent ones among us who MIGHT be a threat to us filthy kaffirs . FORGET THAT! ISLAM is an evil ideology PERIOD. I have yet to see evidence for non-violent Muslims en masse rooting out their “evil” coreligionists within the past 1400 years. The reason is that EVIL is intrinsic to true Islam as invented and practiced by Muhammad. You can’t delegitimize radical extremist “Islamism” because Islam IS de facto radical and extremist. Islam makes Muslims, Muslims don’t make Islam. Reformist Muslims who even criticize “political” Islam accomplish absolutely NOTHING and are branded heretics and are targets just like us kaffirs for attacks by the true Muslims. You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. I hate the fact that us filthy kaffirs in the West are forced to be tolerant of the filthy ideology of Islam in any form because there are a group of Muslims who don’t like the violence of their own ideology.
Surely with 1.5 billion members Islam can enlist more than a tiny handful to overcome their dictatorial leaders who are leading them to their extinction!
All the various aliases for islum are only designed to accomplish one thing: disguise the true fascist nature of islum and create the lie that there is a good, peaceful, tolerant islum.
Exactly…which is why Muslim critics “reformers” (heretics) like Said Shoaib are part of the Islamic jihad against the West. Perpetuating the false claim to us naive filthy kaffirs that Islam can be compatible w/ the West…BUT…you can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig. The intrinsic evil of Islamic ideology will ALWAYS break through and dominate.
I disagree.
??…because….??… As long as Islam is considered a “religion” instead of a “Nazism” it will be protected and allowed to, not only survive, but expand their world-wide jihad (with help from the Leftist Globalists who also hate Western Civilization). You have to realize that our concept of freedom and human rights is a Western invention…it is a foreign concept for much of world history and is certainly foreign in the Islamic world which we always naively thought would be kept in its own box frozen in time. Our Founding Fathers were naive to not define what they meant by freedom of “religion” in the 1st Amendment because they didn’t think Islam would ever cross the ocean and be a subversive, barbarian totalitarian ideology in America even though our first foreign war as a nation was against Muslim pirates.
Hear hear. To talk about good muslums is as ludicrous as talking about good nazis and if there were any “good” muslums then why aren’t there any free, democratic muslum states that aren’t theocracies among the 56 states that comprise the OIC?
Good point! Wherever Islam dominates…there is only totalitarian rule and persecution of non-Muslims
but we’re not allowed to talk about this fascist invasive theo-political ideology or about Muslims who uphold that ideology because that would be “hate speech” which is why I was banned from Twitter…”hateful conduct.” Which is why Said Shoaib’s books were rejected. It’s not that the “wrong” type of Islam is taught in Mosques, Mr. Shoaib…the point is that there is no “right” type of Islam to be taught and furthermore, there should not be any Mosques teaching this vile anti-freedom subversive ideology in the West. It’s incompatible w/ our freedoms. You can teach the h/o of the heinous facts of Islam (or what Mr. Shoaib calls the “colonialist Islam”..HA! as if that had ended which it has not…just look at Europe). If us filthy kaffirs were naive about anything about Islam…it was for not banning Islam in America after Islam attacked us on 9/11. That’s when we lost the war against “terrorism” aka, Islam.
There is no such a thing as a moderate (normal) muslim.
All muslims read and live by the same stupid book.
Impossible to imagine Canuckbrains getting up to defend classical values. Nope–they’ll stand behind the Islamists right up until they themselves arrive at the block, persecute the minority who protest. Weird sort of example of ‘survival of the fittest’who, in Canada, inarguably seem to be the extremists.
A good laxative should clear out your infested system.
You should know.
Indeed. Listening to the likes of you, and there are far too many of you defeatists, one might think all non Muslims are busy stitching their white flags.
Please point out one muslum, imam, mullah, ayatrollah or mosque that self-identifies as “islamist”, just ONE.
With the benefit of Rasch brains all the cowards in the world will follow the Rasch lead and march toward their doom without a peep.
Lead the charge! I’ll watch the news and be right behind you.