“As long as Allah permitted a certain type of beating… It is good for society and good for the woman and the man.” This is who the leaders of the Womens March support. This is who the left supports.
It’s OK for husbands, fathers and brothersto beat disobedient women, says Abbas’ advisor
- Contradictory messages: At very same time that the PA ran a campaign to stop violence against women, Abbas’ Advisor on Islam justified violence against women
- “As long as Allah permitted a certain type of beating… It is good for society and good for the woman and the man.”
By Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik, PMWContradictory messages are an art in the Palestinian Authority. A striking example was when right in the middle of a PA campaign to stop domestic violence against Palestinian women, Abbas’ advisor and top PA religious figure explained on TV exactly when, how and why husbands, fathers and brothers are allowed to beat women!
The Palestinian campaign to stop violence against women ran during the international “16 Days of Activism against Gender-Based Violence” campaign calling to end violence against women and girls. The campaigns began on Nov. 25 on the International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women, and ended on Dec. 10, Human Rights Day.
Story continues below advertisementWhile this campaign was running and teaching that it is never acceptable to hit women, Abbas’ advisor Mahmoud Al-Habbash explained on official PA TV that there are situations in which men are allowed to beat women. In fact, it is even good for the women:
“As long as Allah permitted a certain type of beating, it is for the good. It is good for society and good for the woman and the man.”
When is it permitted? Not very often explained Al-Habbash; only when women are “disobedient”:
“The one and only situation, which is very limited and very rare, in which a man is permitted to beat in a way that doesn’t harm, doesn’t injure, avoids the face, and doesn’t cause strong pain – is the situation of disobedience. Only a situation of the woman’s disobedience. The disobedient woman, the woman who is out of line, the woman who destroys the bonds of marriage, and the bonds of home and family. Aside from this, any type of beating, injuring, and cursing of the woman constitutes a forbidden act.”While Al-Habbash defends the practice, saying it is “rare,” the categories of women who may be beaten that he himself describes are so general that he opens the door for ongoing abuse: “The disobedient woman, the woman who is out of line, the woman who destroys the bonds of marriage, and the bonds of home and family.”
Al-Habbash quotes the Quran that he must not beat her immediately but must try two earlier disciplinary measures: First “admonish them, (next), refuse to share their beds,” (i.e., the husbands) and only then if the woman is still disobedient are the men permitted to beat them.
Al-Habbash indicated that the beating of wives should not be seen negatively since when the woman is beaten it is “good for the woman,” because she will learn and mend her ways. The man, however, cannot be beaten by his wife because it is ineffective. He “will repeat [the behavior] over and over because the man, let’s put it this way, his sensitivity is tougher.” In summary, it is no use for a Muslim woman to beat her husband because he will not learn, but a Muslim man – as a last resort – can beat his wife since it is “good” for her and she will learn.
However, to demonstrate the range of Islamic law, Al-Habbash added that men too can be beaten, not by their wives but by the courts, with “100 lashes” – if they “are found guilty of sexual intercourse” before they are married. – Again this is a rule set out by the Quran.On the topic of domestic beatings, Al-Habbash also taught TV viewers that it is permitted to beat boys at the age of 10 in order to motivate them to pray: “The beating here is educational beating… merciful beating.”
See longer excerpt of Al-Habbash’s teachings below.Given this PA leadership message that beating of women is permitted by her husband, father and brother and that it is “good for the woman,” it is no wonder that the liaison to the campaign against domestic violence Sandy Hanna stated that “we have a long way to go in the fight against violence”:
Campaign Liaison and Support Director for the Palestinian Working Woman Society for Development Sandy Hanna: “This campaign will not be occasional as the violence against women – especially in Palestine – is complicated and has been repeating for many years and we have a long way to go in the fight against violence, whether it is gender-based and essentially reestablishing itself due to society’s patriarchal foundation, or the most dangerous reason, which is the occupation and the implications inherent to it. Therefore, I do not want us to be frustrated, but there is a long way to go in the fight against violence.”[Official PA TV, Palestine This Morning, Dec. 9, 2018]This is not the first time PA leaders have stressed that men have a right to beat women. Palestinian Media Watch has made the following compilation of Palestinian leaders explaining to men how to hit their wives properly LINK BULL http://www.palwatch.org/main.
aspx?fi=157&doc_id=21372 – an explanation Al-Habbash also gave in his recent teachings on PA TV. The compilation includes a female PA TV reporter’s reminder to men that there are “religious rules” as to how the beatings of the wife should be carried out. The compilation refutes the PA’s claim that it is “the Israeli occupation” that causes domestic violence among Palestinians, and shows without a doubt that beating women is considered a Quran-given right:
An additional poster from the Palestinian campaign against violence against women showed men and women on either side of a balanced scale to symbolize their equality:
The following is a longer excerpt of Abbas’ advisor on religious affairs, Al-Habbash’s teachings on the matter of men’s right to beat women:
Supreme Shari’ah Judge, PA Abbas’ advisor on Religious and Islamic Affairs, Mahmoud Al-Habbash: In this noble verse Allah spoke about one situation in a woman’s behavior… “As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly)” [Quran]… The meaning is that the noble Quran and Allah permitted this gradualness in dealing with wrong behavior by the woman… The man who is intended here is not only a husband. When Allah said: “Admonish them,” it can be the husband, the father, the brother. It can be the society or the ruling authority… “And beat them” – this too is not necessarily especially for the husband. In principle, do we recognize harmless beating, educational beating, as a means of education? … Prophet [Muhammad] said… “Command them to pray when they are at the age of seven, and beat them for this when they are 10 years old” [Hadith]. The beating here is an educational beating, and not violent beating. … There is merciful beating… As long as Allah permitted a certain type of beating, it is for the good. It is good for society and good for the woman and the man. However, regarding the question of why Islam permitted a man to hit and not a woman: Look, the woman is more sensitive, and this is a kind of preference for her by the way… You, the man, even if you were beaten, will repeat [the behavior] over and over because the man, let’s put it this way, his sensitivity is tougher than that of the woman. However, the woman can be affected by anything. In addition, in general, beating is permitted against the man and against the woman. ‘The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse – lash each one of them with a hundred lashes’ [Quran]… Every man who beats his wife, his sister, or his daughter for no reason, he is committing a forbidden act… [If] he beats her only because he is angry at her, this is forbidden…The one and only situation, which is very limited and very rare, in which a man is permitted to beat in a way that doesn’t harm, doesn’t injure, avoids the face, and doesn’t cause strong pain – is the situation of disobedience. Only a situation of the woman’s disobedience. The disobedient woman, the woman who is out of line, the woman who destroys the bonds of marriage, and the bonds of home and family. Aside from this, any type of beating, injuring, and cursing of the woman constitutes a forbidden act. The man must know that the woman is not his handmaid and not his servant. She is his partner.”[Official PA TV, Horizons, Dec. 1, 2018]
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and what about your goat if she doth protest too much?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gcEfnZMliM4/S66GIV6HuyI/AAAAAAAAAGk/CX6IpIqT4o4/s320/bettypink1.JPG
Who could beat a defenseless, cute goat? PETA and the ASPCA would be outraged!
No more so than the LGBTQ …. community are outraged when moslems stone a lesbian to death.
Actually, halal slaughtering of animals proves PETA and the ASPCA are just as spineless as every other basically liberal organization.
They don’t mind muslums raping donkeys or goats either so I’m not surprised.
I don’t support none of that, how much money do I get? Nothing.
Meanwhile in neighboring Saudi Arabia
• Africans are beaten, some castrated*
• atheists tortured
& the lifelong clitodirectomy is a torture in itself.
Yet Trump sells Saudi Arabia weapons & doesn’t prohibit their engagement in censorship interference of social media, media & education in the USA.
Furthermore the anti-Israel tyranny tortures many in their prisons.
They must be freed & the anti-Israel tyranny abolished now.
*Africans are enslaved in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Oman, Yemen, Kuwait, Lebanon, Bahrain, North-Sudan, Libya, Algeria, Mauritania, Niger, Somalia, Nigeria in emulation of unjust Muhammad who started the global African slave-trade by saying his unproven deity had turned Africans black so Africans’ descendants would be slaves to Arabs & Turks.
The hip-hop community (spit) in the dying islamic puppet states of N. America that you seem to admire doesn’t have any problems w/rabid Jew hatred or islum. Ice cube is a f’ing muslum.
Who’s ice cube?
Well he’s not Ice T, nor is he Shaved Ice, Vanilla Ice or Crushed Ice:
When exactly is a woman “out of line” or “disobedient”? Because those terms would seem to encompass a wide variety of human behaviour depending on the viewpoint of the muslum man master. Would wanting to divorce your muslum man master and his other three wives be considered disobedient or merely out of line? What about refusing to make your muslum man master his camel urine cocktail in a timely manner? Or burning his dinner?
i’m ok with it if it applies to muslim congresswomen
We had a court case in Auckland a while ago where one devoted wife of the muslum man master objected to his holding the hand of the other devoted wife during a movie they were all watching. Whereupon she was treated to a “educational” beating with a hammer. But not on the face you understand. She duly learned her lesson and retracted her statement to the police before the case hit the court.
I almost don’t care if muslums beat/kill each other but I’d prefer they do it back in their muslum pig’s anus states.
“The one and only situation, which is very limited and very rare, in which a man is permitted to beat in a way that doesn’t harm, doesn’t injure, avoids the face, and doesn’t cause strong pain – is the situation of disobedience.
Oh, I guess when you stab or stone her to death for adultery, it’s not disobedience, is it, you POS?
so can we beat this tlaib pos for her actions?
Yeah, but only to death. After all, we’re not moslems, so we can go for actual justice.
So where does honor killing fit into the education of the woman?
Where do acid attacks fit into the education of the woman?
Oh I forgot.
They have nothing to do with islam..
What do you say to a Muslima with a black eye? Nothing, she’s already been told once infidel…
THIS should be on the front page of every newspaper and Grudge Retort! BUT IT ISN’T! WHY?
Looks like the MSM and the ‘elite that run them must AGREE with Mouslems. That’s my only conclusion.
These ufckers WANT this on you. No wonder they are bringing them here by the mililons!! They do want that dogdamn BOOT on your NECK!
And yet the Women’s march recently cancelled a march for being “too white”, yet no outrage on this clown with the Santa hat openly calling for violence on women ????
Merciful beatings, instructional beatings, educational beatings. Who knew there was such diversity in thuggery?
Was an interesting read on the Tampa Refugees. I always saw John Howard as a snake, and never appeciated what he did to Pauline Hanson.
Honestly Howard should have sent them all back to Indonesia with its modern military force.
The Tampa Refugee Scandal of 2001 and NZ
https://nz-news.000webhostapp.com/2018/09/the-tampa-refugee-scandal-of-2001
Incredible to think how completely this news was hushed up in NZ both then and now. I read later that 3 of the Tampa boys had each brought in an additional 13 relatives.
Our overnments are all dirty in some way, selling of our countries bringing in many Asians, even refugees.
Australians cannot even buy their first homes because of number of Asians now in country, most of the larger manufactures gone third world, and they even brought in migrants to replace skilled workers and saying more need for skilled migrants when many skilled Australians on unemployment. Many Australians have to work two jobs to make up costs. Electricity costs heavily because sold out to foreign owners.
Politics is a dirty game and the people need to kick them out of government and drive all the Muslims out for starts and work back and fix Australia.
The Muslim gangs taking over areas, have more rights than Australians and their victims. Nearly every day their is a woman killed, half the time not knowing who did it.
I just hope more Yellow Vest demonstrations happen and bring on change.
Yesterday’s killing of Jewish exchange student in Melbourne.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/australian-police-in-horrific-attack-israeli-student-murdered-while-on-phone/
Very sad that these people are so stuck in their dark past.
Only gutless males attack the females to beat them into submission or die and our stupid leaders let them into our countries and give them privileges
https://islamicvirtues.com/…
-Grand Ayatollah Sistani, the most prominent Iraqi Shia ayatollah, on pedophilia:
“I was asked by a brother whether or not it is true that Shi’ite men are allowed to derive sexual pleasure from infant children, and even new-born babies, by fondling them or rubbing their genitals on them.”
“Yes, this is indeed permissible for Shi’ites.” “And since deriving sexual pleasure from your wives or female slaves is generally permissible in Islam, and only sexual intercourse is prohibited before the age of maturity (typically at 9 years), it appears that the act of lustful fondling and thighing infant wives may be permissible for us as well.”
Islam is such a nice religion, where do I sign up. Do I have to take classes in how to rob, stab, burn, or poison others?
cancelled
For muslimahs the beatings will continue in the PA until morale improves.