[ April 26, 2024 ]
The concept of moderate Muslims not only has captured the fascination of media, but also of Western society and even ordinary citizens in the streets. Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, the President of Turkey, was bold enough to say it like it is. “The term ‘moderate Islam’ is being lathered up again. The patent of moderate Islam belongs to the West. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam; Islam is one. The aim of using such terms is to weaken Islam.”
The least we can do is give this man credit for making our lives easier describing the differences between the two.
Terms such as “Political Islam,” “Radical Islam,” and “militant Islam,” for instance, have been the contributions of our leftist intelligentsia. As President Erdogan correctly professed, these terms do not even exist in the native parlance of Islam itself, simply because they are redundant. Even a cursory study of Islam and its charter—the Quran—will clearly reveal that it is a radical political movement. It is the socialist leftists and paid-for-media and politicians who sanitize Islam and misguide the populace by saying that the “real Islam” constitutes the main body of the religion; and, that this main body is non-political and moderate.
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Personally, I have refused to join or accept several organizations that seek to combat or expose the antics of “radical” or “extreme” Islam, because I know that it is not extremism causing the violence…it is mainstream, typical, normal, traditional, specified, canonical Islam. If our elected politicians start toying with this subject and avoid addressing, the future generations will be unforgiven.
Why do our elected officials refuse to deal with the Islamic threat? My answer: Various concessions are made, some of them as good faith offerings and some in the hope of placating the Islamists. Yet concessions to threats are appeasements. And appeasements have never solved any problems. They only whet the appetite of the aggressor, give it more power, and make it even more dangerous.
Notably, those of us who, through reason and tremendous act of will, have freed ourselves from the enslaving yoke of Islam placed around our necks (without our permission) from birth, know about all the heinous inside dirt of this plague of humanity. We hardly need to be lectured by some politician whose main goal is to get votes and elected. We have experienced Islam first-hand and up close from the inside.
Many of us have studied the Quran, the Hadith, and the Sunna in depth. Many of us have witnessed Islam in action where it wields sway. Some of us even tried desperately to cling to this security blanket that was wrapped around us from birth. Yet the more we learned, studied and the more we experienced Islam, the more our effort to remain in the fold became untenable. Ultimately, we broke away from Islamic slavery and found it to be our solemn duty to expose this fraud of a religion, help other Muslims to free themselves from it, and warn the good-hearted and gullible non-Muslims against falling prey to it.
Is “Moderate Islam” an illusion? Please allow me to decipher this enigma. Moderate Islam is a wedge that will jam open the door to Jihad, and “evil will triumph when good Muslims do nothing.”
Understandably, the great majority of Muslims are not adherents of the radical line. Yet, because the Islamists wage their war under the name of Islam, they receive immense direct and indirect support from the rank-and-file ordinary Muslims. It is this support of moderate Muslims that keeps the Jihadists alive. And it is the Jihadists who intend to show no mercy to any and all who do not share their theology, be they Muslims or not. For the record, all Muslims, moderates, radicals, Shiite, Sunnis and other sects and sub-sects of Islam are in unanimous agreement that the Quran is the word of “Allah.” All Muslims are also in agreement that “Allah” spoke through the Angel Gabriel to Muhammad.
Hence, to be a loyal follower and faithful Muslim, one must adhere to and perform many rituals, as specified in the Quran by Allah and the Hadiths/Sunna, every waking moment of his entire life. Disobeying these rituals does not make one a moderate Muslim, but rather it would make him a non-Muslim, facing an uncertain future. That is why people like Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, who claim to be Muslim, are, in fact, apostates.
Regrettably, our liberal leftists take advantage of the provisions of the most benign system known to humanity, democracy, to implode it from within. Muslims by sheer numbers, not only in America, but in every Western country will be in a position to vote out democracy in favor of Sharia law. They will elect Muslims to all positions of local influence, who will create and enforce policy according to the Quran. Once they have control over a town, they will begin to establish informal Sharia, and there’s nothing the government can (or will want to) do about it. Sharia is the brutal means by which Islam controls its populations by force, intimidation, and punishments for offenses against Allah.
In short: let us not fall for foolish accusations by the incurably sick leftists at home and America’s ill-wishers abroad level at this country. America is not perfect. Yet it is the very best hope for a humanity struggling to find its humanness. America is worth defending. And remember, we must always vote for the candidate who is not going to cut and run in the face of Islamic jihadists.
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29 Comments
5 years ago
Left/Liberal and jihadis think the same.
Turkey govt allows organ harvest of prisoners and orphaned children killing them in the process http://tinyurl.com/mfpzzl8
And this country is NATO member ! Left/liberals are ok with organ harvesting by killing babies too !
5 years ago
The concept of moderate Muslims not only has captured the fascination of media, but also of Western society and even ordinary citizens in the streets. Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, the President of Turkey, was bold enough to say it like it is. “The term ‘moderate Islam’ is being lathered up again. The patent of moderate Islam belongs to the West. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam; Islam is one. The aim of using such terms is to weaken Islam.”
Imani is conflating two distinct elements here: the concept of “moderate Islam” vs. that “moderate Muslims” and, I initially suspected, by disparaging the former concept, hoped to deny the existance of the latter.
Unlike the idiots here who passionately, even maliciously, deny the existence of moderate Moslems, I accept the evidence of my own experience and the writings of those more knowledgeable about Islamic culture than I, I fully subscribe to the notion that there are moderate Moslems. I’ve pointed to the example of Reza Khalili, author of A Time to Betray and a former Moslem who said when he was growing up, he interpreted the violent passages of the canon of Islam in a figurative way. Well theological arguments have never been my forte, so I am happy to accept Khalili’s account- after all, religious tradition and beliefs are only one influencer of behavior.
For the record, all Muslims, moderates, radicals, Shiite, Sunnis and other sects and sub-sects of Islam …
But interestingly, unlike most of the “goon squad” here, who vehemently, even venomously, deny the existence of moderate Moslems, Imani appears to accept that such people do indeed exist. Imani may even be correct that these moderates serve as “useful idiots” for the Islamists and are “a wedge that will jam open the door to Jihad.” I do, however, find it curious that Imani knows better than Dr. Jasser does how his own religious beliefs should be classified. As with Jews who like to argue interminably over “who is a Jew”, I am content to let the practionners of a faith resolve that issue among themselves.
5 years ago
Reply to
Liatris Spicata
Where are the “moderate” muslum states again oh learned scribe of hypocrisy? Which muslum states don’t enforce islamic blasphemy and/or heresy laws again?
5 years ago
Reply to
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
You are a hateful idiot and I do not intend to attempt to answer your banal questions.
5 years ago
Reply to
Liatris Spicata
Time to call the waaaaaaaaaaaambulance, a muslum apologist/sympathizer is upset!
5 years ago
Reply to
Liatris Spicata
Thanks, Amil, for a considered response to my comment (almost a rarity around here :~). I am not sure we have a significant disagreemnt- although you might be surprised at how much vicious invective has been directed my way by the “goon squad” here because I recognize that there are moderate Moslems.
I am undecided on the issue of whether of not there can be said to be a moderate Islam. Since some Moslems argue there is, I am inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt. None of us alive today know what the face of Islam will look like in 200 years, and I personally think the West should make it abundently clear to the world’s Moslems that their interests do not lie in Islamism.
Ibn Warraq, in “Virgins, What Virgins”, includes some observations by Christoph Luxenburg about the mis-translations in the Koran and other canonical works of Islam. Turns out a pretty good case can be made that the original text promising 72 virgins was a corruption of 72 grapes (some nitpicker here will likely correct me and say it was raisons). Given the enormous ambiguity of the sacred texts of Islam, I take ambiguities like the 72 virgins vs. 72 grapes to be an indication that an Islamic reformation may yet be possible. Of course, as I’ve observed on this site previously, Moslem leaders have found it much more expedient to promise 72 virgins that 72 grapes. If the West had any cahones, it would give the Islamic world occasion to change that!
5 years ago
Reply to
Liatris Spicata
LOL, yeah after over a thousand years of continuous terrorism, genocide and ethnic cleansing islum is going to reform it’s patent evil into good. Get bent lying muslum rat.
5 years ago
Reply to
Liatris Spicata
Amil, you grew up in Iran, correct? I question I have long wondered about is what separates people like you, Anni Cyrus, and Reza Khalili, from the millions who accept the indoctrination they receive growing up?
Part of the answer, I think, is addressed in a book written by a formerly observant Jew, Shulem Deen, author of “All Who Leave Do Not Return”. Deen stopped believing the Judaism of his Hasidic sect, and as a result, lost much of what is most valuable in life. I suspect the social control that sects like Skverer Hasidim exert explains much of adherence they enjoy. However, I doubt that is the entire answer to my question.
5 years ago
Reply to
Liatris Spicata
Actually, this December I will be celebrating my 40th year in the US. Of course, you will always love the place of your birth. In many surprising ways, America resembles the great, ancient Persian Empire. Like the Persians, who rarely regret the past, Americans always believe “the best days are ahead.” Like the ancient Persian Empire once was, the United States is now the greatest country in the world.
America has basically done the same. America is, in a strange sense, a reincarnation of Persia, an extension of the Achaemenid Empire, created by Cyrus the Great. No wonder the immigrant Persians (Iranian-Americans) hold the United States very close to their hearts and have blossomed here in their new home.
Unfortunately, tragedy reigns in the land of the old Persians. The remnants of the great Persian Empire were swallowed up by the Muslim terrorists storming out of Arabia. A tyrannical version of Islam eviscerated the spiritual life of tolerant old Persia. It has taken decades for the Persians (modern Iranians) to recover their spirit. That is why I am doing everything I can to make sure America does not experience Persia’s clamity. All the best.
5 years ago
5 years ago
5 years ago
The nomenclature is wrong and will confuse the issue. The correct nomenclature should be ‘practicing Muslims’ or ‘non practicing Muslims’. The cogent issues is whether a Muslim person lives by the Koran or by secular values. Those that live by the Koran are obliged to perform Jihad and are therefore terrorists themselves or are sympathetic to Islamic terror.
5 years ago
Reply to
Shuali
Most Muslims are not Arabs and cannot understand the Quran, we call these people cultural Muslims. Cultural Muslims, in the main are a wavering segment who are caught between their imprinted belief in Islam, their disillusionment and problem with many aspects of secular society, and their personal fantasy. These people will continue wavering and reach for any straw to balance themselves. Not an easy task.
A moderate Muslim is not a true Muslim. If in any way and to any extent a person supports Islam or carries out its Stone Age precepts, then he/she is Muslim. In reality, there is no such a thing as a moderate Muslim. There are, however, some moderate people who consider themselves Muslims. These people are not sure who they are. They are in limbo and suffer from an identity crisis. Being a Muslim, no matter how little of a Muslim, gives these vast number of people, many bewildered and overwhelmed by modern life’s complexities and contradictions, a kind of refuge.
They yearn for safety, for immortality of the soul if not the body, they want all the pleasures of physical life, yet they want to make sure that they are also providing for life after death by pleasing Allah. So, as you can surmise, this whole thing is extremely complicated. It is a most difficult task to give up the concocted and imaginary life vest that Islam seems to provide for these people. They have nothing else to grab onto. Another religion? Would they accept it? Would it serve them both in this world and the next? Would it relieve their personal existential crisis? These are all tough issues. Most humans need to believe in something. Something bigger than themselves. Something that would give them, or at least hold the promise of granting them, their wishes at little cost.
5 years ago
Reply to
Amil Imani
In your American Thinker article ‘Regime Change Is Coming To Iran’ (May 19, 2018) you seem to view the transition from practicing Muslim to ex-Muslim in a simple way that is not complex but clear and simple. You say there
” There are some 50 million Iranians who are the best hope of the world in that part of the world. These enlightened Iranians despise the Mullahs and have no animosity toward Israel or the United States. Most of these people are well-educated and smart and have broken away from the slavery and fraud of Islamism.”
So apparently to be well educated seems to resolve the issue of “a most difficult task to give up the concocted and imaginary life vest that Islam seems to provide for these people” (quote from your reply to me above.)
I personally can’t see how an educated person who was born into Islam, especially educated in history and the sciences, can remain a practicing Muslim. In other words that person must leave Islam.
5 years ago
Reply to
Shuali
I don’t mind answering your question as long as I have enough time. Let me briefly say this”
Iranians are not Muslim at all. Everything you see on TV is regime’s propaganda. In general, most people despise this Arab religion, even after 1400 years of indoctrination. However, since I lived in Iran, I am able to clearly explain this event. The Islam that Iranians practiced in Iran, was total fabrication. It did not exist. They created something out of their own goodness and imagination. Iranians only used the Quran on two occasions: When someone got married or when someone died. In either occasion, they absolutely had no clue what the Mullah was saying because it is all in Arabic. That’s it. The only time Iranians got to know the real Islam was when Ayatollah Khomeini came to Iran and exposed it for all to see. Even I did not know. Now that the genie is out of the bottle, they can’t put it back in. Guess what, Christianity is the fastest growing religion in Iran. Look it up on google. Based on a reliable source, at least 50% of Iranians have left Islam.
We Iranians, castigated by the barbaric cult of Islam as infidels, heathens, unbelievers, and apostates, have long recognized Islam for what it is: an intolerant primitive chauvinistic belief system incompatible with the tenets of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
We hold Islam in violation of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights for its wanton behavior toward others from the day of its inception to the present.
God bless
5 years ago
Reply to
Shuali
Islam has never been content to limit itself to the land of its birth. It has always been on conquest, by force, by migration, and by any other means.
We Iranians, victimized by this cult of savagery for some 1400 years, are rejecting Islam’s in its entirety with its exclusionary and oppressive dogma. We call on the decent and tolerant people of the world who celebrate gender equality, race amity, and liberty for all to join us in once and for all defeating the scourge of Islam.
5 years ago
Reply to
Shuali
Nomenclature doesn’t matter.
If they are non practicing Muslims they are considered APOSTATES.
5 years ago
shitslam makes Freddy Krueger look like a daydream
5 years ago
Reply to
Halal Bacon
THE QUR’AN PROVES THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS MODERATE ISLAM OR MODERATE MUSLIMS
We hear so much about all of those moderate Muslims out there.
Why aren’t they speaking against the jihadists? …
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Islam is a totalitarian ideology, cloaked in robes of religion to present itself as honorable to an unsuspecting world.
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Islam is in truth a demonically influenced regime of warlords, whose goal is world dominance.
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Here is an example of a command from their false god:
Quran (2:191-193) – “And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing…but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun [the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.].”
Tons of verses here very clear about NO MODERATES!
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/quran-proves-no-thing-moderate-islam-moderate-muslims/
5 years ago
A Muslim province in Indonesia promised to stop carrying out public Sharia canings, then caned 15 people publicly who were violating Sharia law.
5 years ago
Iraqi Exile: There’s No Such Thing As Moderate Muslim
By Courtney Coren | Friday, 11 July 2014 07:01 PM
As Iraq is engaged in a fight against a jihadist insurgency, Iraqi exile and author I.Q. al-Rassooli says it’s important that the United States understand the nature of Islam and learn to accept reality.
“There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim,” Rassooli told Ed Berliner on “MidPoint” on Newsmax TV on Friday.
“I know it sounds ridiculous or outrageous to politically correct ears,” he explained. “In the Koran it forbids a Muslim from being moderate. It considers a Muslim who is moderate as an unbeliever, subject to death and destruction. This is not my words, this is the Koran’s words,” said Rassooli, author of “Lifting the Veil,” a series of books on Islam and Muhammad.
“I know it’s difficult for [someone with] a Judeo-Christian background to accept what I’m telling you,” Rassooli said. “This is why America is failing with Islam; this is why Europe is failing with Islam.
“You are not willing to accept the facts of reality,” he said.
“There are so-called people who don’t want to go to jihad, but these people are a minority, they are not the majority,” the Iraqi exile said.
“This is why every time a Muslim country is given so-called democracy, what do they elect? They elect Hamas in Gaza, they elected the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt,” he said.
Rassooli explained that the reason why democracy fails in the Muslim world is because “Islam is the antithesis of democracy. Islam is the enemy of all the human beings who are not Muslim.”
When the United States is faced with a country with radical Muslim elements, Rassooli says, it should “quarantine them” and “support the people who are supporting you,” such as Israel.
Ultimately, the former Iraqi says that the United States “should not interfere in Muslim countries.”
https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/i-qal-rassooli-islam-muslim/2014/07/11/id/582212/
5 years ago
The author of this article is an ex-Muslim who is courage’s enough to continue his warnings about the dangers represented by the Islamic world to our free world society. While I commend him on his courage where he states that Islam is not a godlike religion, but is instead a political philosophy bent on domination of everyone and everything on this planet, I would love to hear how he thinks we can protect ourselves from the menace that Islam represents. I certainly agree with him that the books of Islam are the words, not of any divine being, but more likely the words that constitute the books of Islam were those of power hungry people, who devised the words that justify the horrible conduct that Islam promotes for the single minded purpose of controlling the people and greed. With so many people having been raised from birth to believe the Islamic books, I wonder how they can be stopped before they ultimately take all of us non-Muslim’s down. If we cannot depend on “moderate” Muslims, then how can we stop the continuing and coming onslaught? With America being involved these days in divisiveness that is dividing our people on issues involving other matters, are we dropping our guard by not recognizing the danger represented by Islamic believers that intend to overthrow our government and institute a theocracy. We must wake up and direct ourselves to stopping the plaque that is Islam, before it is too late, but what can we do in that regard, I ask?
5 years ago
Reply to
dennis
We can start by not allowing them entry to our country. All potential immigrants need to be thoroughly vetted.
5 years ago
Reply to
taptoudt
That is part of the answer, and I agree with you, but , as stated above in these commentaries, moderate “Muslims want radical Muslims to behead you,” and vetting might be an impossible task to protect any of us from the frightening scourge of Islam. It is like we are “damned if we do and damned if we don’t. Major frustration!
5 years ago
To paraphrase an old axiom: the only good muslim is an ex-muslim.
5 years ago
There’s no such thing as a moderate Muslim. Once you follow the Koran you are from bad to evil.
5 years ago
There really are some modern, reformist Muslims — I know some of them — who have formed the Muslim Reform Movement, but they can’t get the media to even notice them. And of course they all live here in America, because they’d be killed if they tried to preach their reforms in any Muslim country.
5 years ago
I don’t see how to square this with some of Ms. Geller’s earlier positions. When pushed to justify why her positions are not prejudicial and bigoted, she has (rightly, in my view) pointed out that her gripe is not with ordinary, well behaved and peaceful Muslims willing to live by Western rules, but with those who either resort to violence OR who are working to shut down dissenting and diverse opinions in the West and force us all to adhere to Sharia standards of submission and the prohibition of blasphemy against Islam. I agree with her 100% on those points. But we can’t go tarring all Muslims with the same brush. It _is_ the radical fundamentalist medievalists, the Salafists and Wahhabis and their offshoots (the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Al Qaeda, ISIS) and the radical Shi’ite Twelvers (Ayatollah Khomeini and his followers) who have turned Islam topsy-turvy and are fighting — Muslim against Muslim — to exterminate the more pacified versions of their religion which dominated in most of the Muslim world before Saudi oil money funded Wahhabist madrasas all over the world. We NEED the moderate Muslims as allies, and we need to not throw them under the bus.
Note that I have no problem critiqueing the naive Western view of wehat a “moderate Muslim” is — for example, Mahmoud Abbas is NOT one, he is as radical as Hamas in his goals, just sneakier. But that’s a different issue.
