[ April 25, 2024 ]
One should have tremendous respect for Secretary of Defense James (“Mad Dog”) Mattis, given his military background and service to his country. However, Mattis is dead wrong on this one. Authorizing the sale of F-35 fighter jets to the human rights violator and Islamic supremacist Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is very short-sighted and dangerous. As a veteran of the Gulf War and Iraq war, Mattis should understand the dangers of a brutal dictator and Islamist being in possession of some of the world’s most dangerous weapons.
Would Mattis have allowed Saddam Hussein to obtain the world’s most advanced fighter jet? Of course he wouldn’t have. Like Saddam Hussein (at least toward the end of his rule), Erdogan is an Islamic supremacist, with expansionist ambitions. Like Saddam Hussein, Erdogan butchers his own people. Like Saddam Hussein, Erdogan intimidates his neighbors (Cyprus and Greece), and like Saddam Hussein, he is an anti-Semite and Israel-hater.
What is so dangerous is that unlike Saddam Hussein, Erdogan’s human rights violations are largely being ignored. Turkey’s military expansion is continuing rapidly. That is because Turkey is a full member of NATO. Therefore, Erdogan has access to some of the world’s best weapons. Turkey’s military is far more powerful than Iraq’s military was under Saddam Hussein. Who knows what the real “Mad Dog” (Erdogan) plans to do with it?
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“Mattis criticizes Turkey on human rights but still wants it to get stealth jets,” bJuly 20, 2018:
(CNN)Secretary of Defense James Mattis criticized Turkey for its “authoritarian drift” and its record on human rights but still wants the NATO ally to receive the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, according to a letter to a senior lawmaker on Capitol Hill.
“I understand and agree with Congressional concerns about the authoritarian drift in Turkey and its impact on human rights and rule of law including the detainment of American citizens such as Pastor Brunson,” Mattis said in a letter to the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, Republican Rep. Mac Thornberry of Texas, dated earlier this month and obtained by CNN.“The Administration is pressing Turkey on these issues as well as the potential acquisition of the S-400 air defense system,” Mattis added, referring to the Russian-made weapons system that has sparked concerns on Capitol Hill and in the Pentagon due to fears that its use by Turkey could enable Moscow to gather sensitive intelligence on NATO and the US military.“The F-35 is the most advanced aircraft, the most advanced NATO aircraft, and if Turkey goes forward with the acquisition of the S-400, it will allow the Russians to collect information on how to best attack an F-35 fighter,” Sen. Chris Van Hollen, a Maryland Democrat who has led efforts to block Ankara from receiving the jet, told CNN last month.Yet despite these criticisms of Turkey, Mattis said he opposed recent congressional efforts to insert language into the defense budget, the National Defense Authorization Act, aimed at blocking Turkey from receiving the F-35 stealth jet….
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64 Comments
5 years ago
hope they have LoJack vehicle disable installed on those planes
5 years ago
As a former Staff Sgt this is absolute stupidity because the Turks still want to purchase the Russian S-400 missile air-defense. Does not Trump have the last say?
Also there is an agreement that all countries with the F-35 will visit the special international training base in Israel!
This will go down like a lead balloon over Gaza.
The Norwegian Air force will supply the Lox and the Israelis will bring the bagels and cream cheese.
5 years ago
Reply to
Millionmileman
This is puzzling to me too…. As Commander in Chief, maybe Trump should STOP THIS….
Mattis has shown excellent judgement till now….
5 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
How right you ARE!!!
I overlooked some stuff..
Ole lefty WIKIpedia updated me!
James Norman Mattis (born September 8, 1950) is the current and 26th United States Secretary of Defense and former United States Marine Corps general who served as 11th Commander of United States Central Command during the Presidency of Barack Obama.[4]
Mattis commanded the United States Joint Forces Command and concurrently served as NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander Transformation from November 2007 to August 2010, prior to replacing General David Petraeus as Commander of United States Central Command. During the Iraq War, he commanded I Marine Expeditionary Force, United States Marine Forces Central Command, and 1st Marine Division.[5]
On January 20, 2017, Mattis was confirmed as Secretary of Defense 98–1 by the United States Senate on a waiver,[6] as he had only been three years out of active duty despite U.S. federal law requiring at least seven years of retirement for former military personnel to be appointed Secretary of Defense. He was the first Cabinet member to be confirmed by the Senate and first confirmed member of the Cabinet of the 45th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand was the only United States Senator to oppose his appointment as Secretary of Defense.
As Secretary of Defense, Mattis has affirmed the United States’ commitment to defending longtime ally South Korea in the wake of the North Korea crisis.[7][8] An opponent of proposed collaboration with Russia on military matters,[9] Mattis has consistently stressed Russia’s threat to the world order.[10] Mattis has occasionally voiced his disagreement with certain Trump administration policies, opposing the proposed withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal,[11] and has criticized budget cuts that hamper the ability to monitor the impacts of climate change.[12][13]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Mattis
Opposed the with drawl of the IRAN AGREEMENT…
Opossed BUDGET CUTS on CLIMATE CHANGE – rolling my eyes…
I also think he is soft on LBGT… not good….
I have to give Trump credit, he really does try to stick to his campaign promises!
5 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
That, in itself, says all we need to know about who and what he really is: An Obama holdover who, no matter where he serves now, still shares Obama’s worldview and policies.
Trump (and our nation) will rue the day he was permitted to occupy such a strategic position within this administration. This most recent move demonstrates just one, of many, attendant dangers thereof.
Supporting an Islamic tyrant with our best aircraft profits Erogan’s evil quest to establish his Caliphate while Pastor Andrew Brunson, and many other Christians, languish in prison facing persecution with apparent impunity.
What is not mentioned in the article is the fact that (according to Bible prophecy) someday, soon, these planes will be used against Israel as Turkey, Iran and other nations will align themselves with Russia seeking her destruction.
5 years ago
Reply to
WM1
Right you are! As a matter of fact, there’s quite a few prophecy teachers, that think, as I do, that Erdogan, will be the one of the three in satan”s trinity, the “antichrist”….
To tell people, who don’t know, there is the trinity of good, “God, the Father, and the Holy Spirit”.
And then, as satan LOVES to copy everything God has, and does, (to fool people into thinking they are true christians, when they don’t even know their following evil), he (satan), has HIS three (trinity)….and that is, Satan, the Antichrist, and the False Prophet.
Now we don’t, and won’t know who Satan will be, until three and a half years, into the 7 year tribulation period, when he walks into a “newly built” temple (satan would want nothing, but the best and newest, NOT a old used temple), and so we will wait to find who HE is, but as for the Antichrist, important well known people have been named that, through generations, such as Hitler, and we still try to guess today. So like I said, I, along with many others, think the Antichrist label will be PM Erdogan of Turkey!
And as the pope, is and has been doing and saying many evil things, and has such a large amount of so called “christian” followers, around the world, he would definitely be the third of that trinity of satans, the False Prophet. That’s an easy call…
And WM1, you got that last paragraph of yours, exactly right!
5 years ago
Reply to
joanofark06
The Epistles of John, reference “anti-Christ” numerous times. Sometimes, In the singular and sometimes in the plural. 1 John 2:18 references that MANY anti-Christs had already come. I get confused when something cannot be directly linked to Holy Scripture.
5 years ago
Reply to
Millionmileman
LOL, that’ll be interesting. I’m sure Greece, Cyprus and Armenia are thrilled that the dying, atheist West is arming their muslum enemy.
5 years ago
Reply to
VTS
What I what thinking too. How they’ve oppressed the Kurds, when they’ve been so good to us, snd Israel, it’s time to punish the Turks!
5 years ago
Reply to
Robert Swift
I don’t understand why the US hasn’t been protecting, or helping them, as much as they should. (Although I’m wondering, if those are called “muslims”, then I wouldn’t worry about America helping them.)
Why Isn’t Trump Helping the Kurds?
https://clarionproject.org/isnt-america-helping-kurds/
And THIS persecution of christian news, is why I am AGAINST giving Turkey ANYTHING!! (If the news is really true)
Turkey’s Mass Persecution of Christians and Kurds
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10932/turkey-persecution-christians-kurds
5 years ago
Reply to
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
I was under the impression that the Kurds were very favorable to the U.S, and the Israelis have also helped them out militarily, supply, and training stuff, (as I’ve read in the past). I would be interested on your insight. Obviously you’ve heard different things.
5 years ago
Reply to
Robert Swift
Did you actually bother to read the links I posted? Christians living in Iraqi Kurdistan are being dispossessed of their lands and properties by KURDS!
5 years ago
Reply to
VTS
The muslum Kurds in Kurdistan are persecuting Christians and enforcing blasphemy and heresy laws. F’em.
5 years ago
Reply to
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
In some areas, they make isis look like Sunday School teachers.
5 years ago
Reply to
Achmed Mohandjob
I haven’t read anything about that, but their persecution of Christians in Kurdistan goes well beyond “moderate”.
5 years ago
Reply to
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
In some of the areas, the the kurd moslems “liberated”, they took up where isis stopped. Oh … and remember, we need to arm and assist those “brave Kurdish fighters”.
5 years ago
Reply to
VTS
The muslum Kurds in Kurdistan are persecuting Christians and enforcing blasphemy and heresy laws. F’em.
5 years ago
Reply to
Millionmileman
The Turkish pilots and maintainers are at Luke Air Force Base in Arizona training on their first two F-35 fighter aircraft. They will not be going to Israel.
5 years ago
Reply to
Millionmileman
Did you know Major-General Chaim Herzog (RIP)? He seemed like a kind and intelligent man (I read his book the Arab-Israeli Wars). I guess he must have already retired before you served.
5 years ago
I suppose considering Turkey is an “ally” of NATO Mattis always has that fact as an out. This is EXACTLY why the dying free world shouldn’t be allied w/totalitarian, fascist, religious apartheid muslum states.
5 years ago
Reply to
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
Mad mu-mu mattis. Carter’s RIFF took all of the good Marines.
5 years ago
Reply to
Achmed Mohandjob
What would Vandegrift and Chesty Puller think of their Corps today?
5 years ago
Reply to
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
First, they’d cry tears of blood. Then, they’d kill those bastids.
5 years ago
Reply to
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
First, they’d cry tears of blood. Then, they’d kill those bastids.
5 years ago
How did the two bimbos, mattis and kelly, ever make PFC In the USMC, much less general. The Corps ain’t what it used to be.
5 years ago
I wonder if the corrupt, craven, cowards who run NATO would be willing to sell F-35’s to Greece. After all, Greece is a NATO ally isn’t it?
5 years ago
This is NOT okay. The fact that the West allies itself with Turkey at all is a grave affront to the countless Armenians and Christians the Turks slaughtered. Perhaps during the Cold War, it was a necessity, but today? I don’t really think so.
5 years ago
Reply to
R. Arandas
Wondered if you saw this article?
Turkey’s Mass Persecution of Christians and Kurds
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10932/turkey-persecution-christians-kurds
And that site is a very good one, to sign up for their newsletter, to find out what’s going in the world, especially with the spread of islam!
5 years ago
Reply to
joanofark06
In Iraqi Kurdistan guess what the f’ing Kurds are doing? That’s right, persecuting Christians!
Kurds were FULLY complicit in the Armenian Genocide.
5 years ago
Reply to
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
More examples of Kurdish persecution of Christians in Kurdistan:
https://www.worldwatchmonitor.org/2018/04/iraqs-assyrian-christians-persecution-and-resurgence/
5 years ago
I’m not a fan of Mattis. He was up to his neck in Petraeus’ utterly criminal COIN strategy.
http://dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/3447/This-Is-What-COIN-Looks-Like.aspx
5 years ago
We will come to regret this deeply. Erdo’s a psycho. Not to be trusted on any level.
5 years ago
I cannot believe this, it’s beyond stupid.
To “over arm” a religious despot and anti Semite like Erdogan is insane, eventually one will find its way to the Russians to pick over. What will the Greeks think, their principle historical enemy is “up tooling” with the latest hi tech weaponry, what are THEY supposed to do ?
The historical and religious ignorance of the top American military and politicians has been an issue for over 60 years, unfortunately it still is.
Trump has to squash this at once, the” face” of Mattis matters not one jot.
5 years ago
Put mad dog out to pasture he is a. Nut . No weapons of any kind to turkey they are our enemy. The fact he can’t see it should worry all Americans .
5 years ago
These F35’s will hopefully be built with some mechanism which will render them less than perfect. Doubtless Erdogan will try to extend this ‘2ndTurkish Empire’ towards Greece and Cyprus. and these particular planes will ‘cease to function’.
5 years ago
Reply to
steve
It wouldn’t take much for the f’ing Turks to take over the rest of Cyprus and Greece wouldn’t be able to put up much of a defense either. Wouldn’t it be fascinating to see what the corrupt, craven, dying atheist states that comprise NATO do if Turkey were to attack Greece (a fellow NATO member state)? The atheist West did absolutely NOTHING when Turkey invaded, annexed and ethnically cleansed 40% of Cyprus in the 1970’s.
5 years ago
Turkey under Erdogan is not a safe ally or member of NATO and is actually doing deals with the ‘enemy’. You can bet your pension that Erdogan will waste no time giving or more likely selling the technology to Russia and other enemies of the WEST. This also boosts Erdogan’s image in the ME and with Turks. He is about as trustworthy as Hitler!
Matthis must be losing his mind or will get a nice kick back from the defence contractors. This MUST be stopped.
5 years ago
Obviously they don’t call this guy “Mad Dog Mattis” for nothing. But a better nickname might be “Ignorant-of Islam-beyond-belief Mattis”.
One has to wonder if Mattis has any idea that what he just OK’d amounts to grand treason.
5 years ago
We must support Turkey as it is our best defense against Iran!
5 years ago
Reply to
BestefarJohn
Riiiight, reminds me of a saying, “with friends like that, who needs enemies”?
5 years ago
“Mad dog” has lost his mind.
5 years ago
Not much different than President Trump this past April, during a press conference with the president of Nigeria outside the White House. He gave this Nigerian leader a large U.S. taxpayer aide package of cash, weapons, fighter planes, and flight instructors. A first time for weapons assistance. This Nigerian leader happens to be from the same herdsman tribe that is slaughtering massive numbers of Nigerian Christians. Not only that, he put tribe leaders in his presidential cabinet. The same tribe leaders orchestrating the Christian genocide.
So tell me which act of U.S. assisting in human rights violations is worse. Because I don’t know, we are subsidizing both.
5 years ago
Reply to
iprazhm
And a few months after Trump was president, he went over to Saudi Arabia, where he “bent down”, to the king, and received all kinds of expensive gifts from them. I wish they would have shown them, what they do to people over there, for just small crimes, while he was there! Maybe he would have thrown those presents back at them, and never talked to them again! Here’s just the latest!
Saudi Arabia Is About To Behead 6 School Girls For Acting Indecently With Their Male Friends
http://b1ff5939f6.nxcli.net/2018/05/saud-arabia-behead-schoolgirls.html/
And how much “kissin up”, does a person do, when they host a Ramadan dinner in the White House, and wish all muslims, a happy holiday?? You hear about any deportations lately? What’s the latest on the schools, teaching our young children, on what they need to say to become a real muslim? It’s really too many to count! Nothing is being done about, except parents getting mad about it, of course. What’s the Sec of Education doing or saying about this?? Not a peep.
Ok, back to Nigeria, does anyone know about this? Sell to one “enemy/friend”, to go kill another enemy? Guess we needed Nigeria to do our dirty work, for us….why couldn’t we do this ourselves??
Trump to Sell Attack Planes to Nigeria for Boko Haram Fight
https://www.voanews.com/a/trump-to-sell-attack-planes-to-nigeria-for-boko-haram-fight/3803947.html
Trump plans to move ahead with Nigeria planes sale: sources
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nigeria-usa-aircraft-sales-idUSKBN17C2C5
5 years ago
Reply to
joanofark06
Thanks for the info. So many who support President Trump, do so with blinders on, seeing only good in all that he does…being willfully ignorant. That’s scary and puts freedom at risk.
5 years ago
Trump should interfere and say no.
5 years ago
Reply to
Stephen Honig
I sure would take some of my negative thoughts about Trump away, if he would only do that! What my VERY negative thoughts are, about Trump, is that he’s not doing anything, about the millions of so called “immigrants/refugees” here in this country! American’s are dying, and he’s over THERE, killing them, when he should bring our troops home, to take them out HERE, or we can just sit around, waiting for the next killing, or bombing, because of THEM!! And stop islam from being taught to our children, where I keep reading (and archiving), ANOTHER school, trying to make our children say, what they need to say, to become a muslim!! It’s maddening, and I’m tired of my list of articles on this subject, getting longer!! And I don’t want to hear about another American dying, by THESE “people”, that DON’T belong here!!! I’m not hearing about anymore deportations, and that is upsetting!
AND, I want these muslim training camps to be closed. There’s about 50 in this country, and one of them, is in MY state!
I can deal with any other person’s culture, or religion, but THESE so called “people” do NOT integrate! There’s only one reason for them to come to a non-muslim country, and I’m sure I don’t to spell it out, to most Americans!
5 years ago
Reply to
joanofark06
How many battles could Trump fight at one time? For the amount of crap that he has to deal with, another republican would have resigned. When he wants to do something, it’s the liberal courts that stop him. He’s POTUS for a year and a half and accomplished more than Reagan did in this amount of time. Remember there are no more Democrats, they morphed into the far far left, anarchist, bolsheviks, black racist that no other past president had to deal with. Obviously, this is all Obama’s fault. Be thankful for the things he’s accomplishing and just not what you want him to do.
5 years ago
Reply to
Stephen Honig
Ok, Stephen, yes he’s done some good things. So I guess, we’ll just have to sit back, and wait on one, ten or fifty muslims, to make another attack on our country. How many more Americans have to die, and how many more children will learn how to be a good little muslim, in another school, before he finally stops fighting them over THERE, and fight them over here? And I guess you’ll just cast aside, and say it was nothing, that he hosted a ramadan dinner at the White House, and wished all muslims, a happy holiday? Was that absolutely necessary?? I sure would like to hear more about how the deportations are coming along! What I WANT him to do, is start making America GREAT again! And that will never happen, as long as we have thousands of those kind of “people” here!
5 years ago
Reply to
joanofark06
I hate Muslims more than you and Trump is not sitting back. Imagine if Hillary was POTUS, you’d have everyone coming here illegally and you would see plenty of killings from these terrorist like in Europe. How many terrorist acts are there since Trump blocked seven Muslim countries of evil coming here? Remember the liberals fought him in courts to stop the block. The difference with the Ramadan dinner in the White House is that Trump was trying to have them stop terrorism and not like Obama who celebrated it. Every time ICE wants to deport illegals, the scumbag radicals are on the march. You need a reality check, because you forgot what Obama did to my country. I’m critical, but you’re over the top!
5 years ago
Reply to
Stephen Honig
Exactly! Why isn’t he? Could it be because he owns real estate of substantial value in Turkey?
https://www.trump.com/real-estate-portfolio/istanbul/trump-towers/
5 years ago
We should have zero trade with Turkey.
5 years ago
The F-35 is the best we’ve got. Now I know why he’s called “Mad Dog.”
5 years ago
Agree, but where is Trump on this, I wonder??
5 years ago
So? Trump is selling planes to Nigeria too….and you don’t even WANT to know what they do to people over THERE!! (wanna see the links to the many articles about the many christians getting murdered there?) So I guess he wouldn’t care if Mattis sells to Erdogan…c’mon people, how many times do we have to say that saying, “money talks, and…..”? (being sarcastic here, now…calm down…lol)
Trump to Sell Attack Planes to Nigeria for Boko Haram Fight
https://www.voanews.com/a/trump-to-sell-attack-planes-to-nigeria-for-boko-haram-fight/3803947.html
Trump plans to move ahead with Nigeria planes sale: sources
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nigeria-usa-aircraft-sales-idUSKBN17C2C5
5 years ago
Mattis is dead wrong on a lot of things, IMHO.
