[ April 20, 2024 ]
Muslims in Calgary are actually making the case that female genital mutilation is medically beneficial, and that it’s simply the “Jewish controlled media” that’s wrongfully painting the issue as negative.
Unbelievable.
Thanks to Jihad Watch, via Muslims in Calgary and Blazing Cat Fur, we have the story.
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How Misogynists and Feminists are feeding upon each other to denigrate an Islamic practice that brings untold benefits to women
Female Circumcision is an Islamic tradition, and involve only the removal of the clitoral prepuce and no more.
All the early scholars of Islam were agreed that all that is needed to be removed in the circumcision of the female was the prepuce of the clitoris, the fold of skin covering the clitoris. This is the female equivalent of the foreskin in males which is taken off during circumcision.
So what was the root behind all this writing on this emotionally charged and horrific practice?
Again, from Jihad Watch:
The inspiration for writing on this touchy topic arose at a recent week-long workshop held by an international Muslim women’s rights organization in Kandy (in Sri Lanka) which I had the fortune of attending thanks to its local organizers.This group had a lot of nice things to say about women’s rights in Islam and I must say I agreed with much of it, like the rights of Muslim women to enter into marriage with their free consent and even contract marriages on their own accord or their rights to divorce or pre-nuptial agreements to safeguard their freedoms, all well and good, because Islam concedes all these rights to women, on which topics I too have written extensively.
But there was one topic I begged to differ when they brought up the matter, and that was female circumcision. They asked us to discuss a recent Fatwa issued by Malaysia’s National Council for Islamic Religious Affairs in 2009 (*) that declared that the practice was mandatory for Muslim women. They expected us to rip it to pieces, but I differed. Why, because I could not find anything objectionable in it. Reading it carefully, I noticed that those who had drafted it were not at all motivated by a negative attitude towards women’s rights. Rather it clearly stated that all forms of FGM (Female Genital Mutilation) found by the WHO to be harmful to women such as clitoridectomy (removal of the clitoris) and infibulation (a still more barbaric practice where the female’s external genitalia including the labia minora and clitoris are removed and stitched) were against the Shariah. But it made an exception, stating that all that was necessary in the case of women was to remove the skin covering the clitoris, which it declared to be obligatory, pointing out that a majority of the classical scholars of Islam including Imam Shafi and Imam Hanbali thought it to be so.
I plainly told the sister who was moderating the show, I could see nothing wrong with it, since all they said that was required was to remove the prepuce or the skin covering the clitoris, a relatively minor and harmless procedure very much like male circumcision which like it might confer some health benefits as well. That raised a few eyebrows, probably because none of them had heard such a novel idea before.
Female Circumcision in Islam involve the removing of part of the prepuce or the skin covering the clitoris, a relatively minor and harmless procedure and very much like male circumcision
Of course there’s really nothing so novel about it. Much has been written about it even by Western Doctors but these studies have been conveniently overlooked to conform to Islamophobic sentiments expressed by a largely Jewish controlled media. This media machine works in different ways. For one thing, it will say that Islam advocates genitally mutilating women to curb their sexuality, citing examples of barbaric forms of FGM practiced in sub-Saharan Africa, thereby associating Islam with a misogynistic attitude. But of late, we see another trend, one that seeks to disassociate female circumcision altogether from Islam without differentiating the proper Islamic form from the rest. Why, you may ask? It’s very simple really. There is a strong body of evidence emerging to support the view that the proper Islamic procedure involving the removal of the clitoral prepuce is beneficial to women and not detrimental to them.
Islam doesn’t advocates genitally mutilating women to curb their sexuality, in fact all forms of FGM (Female Genital Mutilation) found by the WHO to be harmful to women such as clitoridectomy (removal of the clitoris) and infibulation (a still more barbaric practice where the female’s external genitalia including the labia minora and clitoris are removed and stitched) were against the Shariah.
So there you are. It is in the interests of the Jews to criticize female circumcision while promoting male circumcision. Why, because male circumcision is a Jewish practice and female circumcision is not. The medical benefits of male circumcision was established as a fact when the Americans adopted it for hygienic reasons in the early part of the 20th century so that even to this day the majority of male infants born in the US are circumcised.
Islam is innocent from the barbaric forms of FGM practiced in sub-Saharan Africa
The practice was shown to confer significant health benefits as borne out by numerous studies that showed a reduction in urinary tract infections, penile cancer, HIV and other STDs as well as a reduction in Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) infections in female partners of circumcised men which could lead to cervical cancer when passed on to women (In favour of circumcision. Brian Morris.1999). The US due to its strong Judeo-Christian background thus came to see male circumcision in a favorable light, but altogether neglected its female equivalent as they did not have such a tradition. Moreover it was an Islamic tradition, not a Judeo-Christian one. It was not until about the early part of the twentieth century that some daring US doctors, reasoned that since women too had a prepuce (the equivalent of the foreskin in males) some of the health benefits conferred on males through circumcision could be enjoyed by women. Moreover they discovered another interesting fact, that the procedure could in fact increase sexual gratification in women since it exposed the surface area of the clitoris to greater stimulation during the sex act as well as in oral sex. Shire Hite’s groundbreaking study on the importance of the clitoris in the arousal and satisfaction of the female led to further interest in this until then rather insignificant part of the female anatomy. To keep a long story short, it is in the interests of the Jews to hide the facts about the benefits of female circumcision, because if it is shown that it is indeed an Islamic practice, and that what Islam advocates is only the removal of the clitoral prepuce and no more, it will be another feather in the cap of Islam. Islamic tradition then becomes a double-edged sword, where both the male and female circumcision it upholds are shown to be beneficial, in contrast to the single-edged sword of the Judaic tradition. My aim in this essay is to prove exactly that!
It was not until about the early part of the twentieth century that some daring US doctors, reasoned that since women too had a prepuce (the equivalent of the foreskin in males) some of the health benefits conferred on males through circumcision could be enjoyed by women.
But before doing so let me disarm its detractors a bit to show that it is indeed an Islamic practice.
Islamic Basis for Female Circumcision
True there is nothing in the Qur’an about female circumcision (an argument often put forward by the detractors), but there’s no mention of male circumcision in it either. Rather the evidence for circumcision, both male and female, come from the ahadith (Sayings of Prophet Muhammad, Peace Be Upon Him) like the following:
1)Circumcision is my way for men and ennobling in women (Baihaqi).
This hadith suggests that both male and female circumcision was recognized by the Prophet. The term he used for both was khitan. In the original Arabic: Al-khitānu sunnatun li ar-rijāli makrumatun li an-nisā. This hadith does not necessarily affect the obligatory character of circumcision in the case of females for the simple reason that it would have been quite inappropriate to apply the term sunnat ‘(Prophet’s) way’ for the female operation. Similarly, the term makrumah or ennobling used in the case of women need not affect the obligatory character of the operation since it is merely indicative of the fact that women are ennobled by it
2)Five are the acts of fitra: circumcision, removing the pubes, clipping the moustache, cutting the nails, plucking the hair under the armpits (Sahih Bukhari & Muslim)
This statement is a very strong one, classing circumcision (khitān) as one of the acts characteristic of the fitra or God-given nature (or in other words, Divinely-inspired natural inclinations of humans) such as the shaving of pubic hair, removing the hair of the armpits and the paring of nails, which again shows its strongly emphasized if not obligatory character in the case of both males and females. Muslim scholars are of the view that acts constituting fitra which the Prophet expected Muslims to follow are to be included in the category of wājib or obligatory.
Circumcision, like the other fitra acts involving the removal of redundant outgrowths that contribute to uncleanliness, takes the human body to a more perfect state desired by God, which is why in the first place it is called an act that is in accord with the fitra. That it should apply equally to females as much as males goes without saying as both sexes have a prepuce, a fold of unclean skin covering the erectile tissue of their genitals.
Besides, it is a well established principle of Islam that males and females are to be treated equally in all respects where they are similar and there can be no doubt that in this respect they are indeed similar.
3)When the (male) circumcised part meets the (female) circumcised part, bath becomes obligatory (Ahmad, Tirmidhi)
Here we have the Prophet declaring that ghusl (the bath following sexual intercourse without which no prayer is valid) becomes obligatory (wajib) when both the circumcised parts meet. The fact that the Prophet defined sexual intercourse as the meeting of the male and female circumcised parts when stressing on the need for the obligatory post-coital bath could be taken as pre-supposing or indicative of the obligatory nature of circumcision in the case of both males and females. There are two forms of this hadith, one in which the prophet used the term khitanain (the two circumcised parts) and the other khitānul khitān (the male and female circumcised parts), leaving us with no doubt as to what the Prophet meant by it.
There’s more — much more. But you get the idea. Muslims, once again, are trying to turn a horrific practice into a tame-sounding procedure. And they’re trying to make the naysayers seem radical and out-of-touch with truth.
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34 Comments
6 years ago
Next they will claim torturing and beheading infidels is religious Right of Muslims
6 years ago
Reply to
Liatris Spicata
Are they doing it in your city/town ? And they are not arrested and go scot free like in Islamic state ? give a link to the news.
6 years ago
The only part of a muslim that’s removal is of any benefit to society, is to remove their presence completely from civilization. islam is built on a foundation of lies, everything in it is a lie. Read the “scientific facts” of the qur’an. It gets stupider by the page.
6 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
Next they will claim torturing and beheading infidels is religious Right of Muslims and its “jewish media” that is stopping their religious right !
Why Just that even Raping infidel minor Girls is Halal (approved ) as per koran http://bit.ly/2tTQW4b
D
6 years ago
Reply to
Suresh
They do already. It’s their claim in Israel, and their ‘gubment’ , the gubment of the fakestinians, has ordained it’s religious right to murder jews… and call those who do so
‘martyrs’
This is the result of the fantasy known as two states for two peoples.
D
6 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
The reality is that ‘believers’ aren’t permitted to critique the Quran. Non believers are forbidden from ever doing that. So… instead of discussing the points of the document, doctrine, it is verboten. Hence, they blame, in this case, as in so many- jews for spreading doubt about their practice which is horrible and should be outlawed. Again, there is much discussion about male circumcision via the jews, and it’s of course allowed because the jews don’t forbid any discussion- but the religion of kaboom- they forbid any critique, any criticism.
6 years ago
Reply to
Mark Goldberg
islam is so totally obsessed with lies, that even direct quotes from the qur’an are considered blasphemy if they are presented at inconvenient times.
6 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
As allah’s final prophet and messenger has revealed, the sun sets in a muddy pool at the end of the day. It’s allah’s scientific fact!
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
That is one of the things about the qur’an, muslims say it cannot be changed, yet even in the face of any amount of evicted contrary to the ravings of mutgonad, police beat upon him, muslims will not accept that their profit and his sales prospectus are wrong.
D
6 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
I found one inconsistency in the song. Allah never fibs, yet he is described — as well all know — as the “greatest of deceivers” in the aholy quran.
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
islam is based on lies, even when it is lying it is telling lies.
6 years ago
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6 years ago
but these studies have been conveniently overlooked to conform to Islamophobic sentiments expressed by a largely Jewish controlled media.
Yo Jews-
You’re doing a lousy job of controlling the media!
6 years ago
Reply to
Liatris Spicata
Liberal US Jews have forgotten that the Fakestinians were Hitler’s allies.
6 years ago
Why on earth is anyone a Muslim? There is no value nor worth nor goodness in it at all!
Tamara-
People tend to accept the cultural paradigm in which they are raised. While I admit, I find it hard to come up with specific examples from the canon of Islam (but I’m only on volume 27 of Bukhari’s collection of the hadiths, so gimme some time), your conclusion strikes me as very wrong.
There is much of worth in the Islamic tradition, and for all I know was a big improvement over the pagan religions of seventh century Arabia. Islam has, historically, provided a sense of meaning to millions of impoverished people. It arguably has done a better job than the Christian world in providing a mechanism for people to live peacefully, at least within regions (yes, it has done so at the price of requiring adherence to the prevailing social norms). Of interest to you, perhaps, I think it can make of reasonable claim to having been more tolerant (ok, less intolerant) of Jews than has even the pre-Holocaust Christian world. For centuries, the Moslem world lead the West in terms of learning … ok, maybe that was after Islam had destroyed the centers of Western civilization, but it’s true nonetheless. I think the Moslem world lead the West in mathematics and astronomy until about 1400 (don’t hold me down too much on the date).
I take the time to respond to you because I think your attitude, however understandable, almost ensures that those whose moorings are in the Judeo-Christian tradition will fail to entice Moslems to leave, or radically alter, the faith of their ancestors. And unless the West is willing to undertake a Nazi-style campaign of extermination, which it is capable of doing but I fervently hope will not, a vigorous effort to undermine Moslems’ faith in their ideology is the only way out of the most pressing social crisis of our times. Either that, or surrender on their terms.
6 years ago
Reply to
Liatris Spicata
Liatris –
Muslims did nothing but conquer with the sword..whole of Arabia,Persia , Egypt, Syria, Byzantine Empire, parts of Asia and Africa and even Spain. Their apostasy and blasphemy laws ensure nobody leaves the ‘ faith’, and Mohammad had a great deal for his bandits, kill and rob, if you win give me 20% of the booty including sex slaves…if you lose and die, you get virgins as a reward in the heavenly brothel.? Too good to resist? But leave Islam? Death! And hell for sure.
THAT keeps them there, not any ‘ benefits’
Any muslim ‘ inventions’ were preceded by other civilisations and nothing to do with Islam as islam took over other peoples from 7th century onwards, so many forced and captured converts achieved much such as the former Christian slave boy who became the architect for their mosques based on the Christian St, Sofia etc. Etc.Not because of Islam.In spite of it. !
I know too many ex-Muslims and those who escaped the tyranny of living under Islam for you to be able to convince me of anything positive in Islam.
Always ‘peace ‘under totalitarianism. ? Not too difficult to work out?
No free will or choices or freedom of any kind! If that floats your boat: slavery ……then go for it. ?
I will never bow to the moon god!
6 years ago
Reply to
KitteeK
Kittee-
Thank you for a civil response- that’s a lot more than I’ve gotten from the likes Mahou Shouju and IslamIsTyranny when I’ve made similar claims here in the past.
Any muslim ‘ inventions’ were preceded by other civilisations and nothing to do with Islam as islam
I’m not sure what you mean by that … all inventions,since some hairy sort used a stick to beat up a rival had precedents. And you may well be correct that inventions by Moslems had “nothing to do with Islam” … but they stil are inventions fromt he Moslem world.
I won’t claim expertise in the matter, but Ref. 1, from a reasonably trustworth source, lists inventions from the Medieval Moslem world. Among ones that are notable are and that correspond to what I’ve read independently of Wikipedia are:
1. Tin-glazing: The tin-glazing of ceramics was invented by Muslim potters in 8th-century Basra, Iraq.[3] The oldest fragments found to-date were excavated from the palace of Samarra about 80 kilometres (50 miles) north of Baghdad.[4]
2. Frequency analysis in cryptology: the first known recorded explanation of cryptanalysis was given by Al-Kindi (also known as “Alkindus” in Europe), in A Manuscript on Deciphering Cryptographic Messages. This treatise includes the first description of the method of frequency analysis.[6][7]
I believe the history of algebra clearly shows development in the Moslem world of this Indian/Hindu invention. Moreover, Al-Kindi was among the leading algebraists of his day, and the translation of his works into Latin were not unnoticed by a slumbering Europe.
I think the anti-jihad community makes a big mistake by denying the contributions of Arabs and Moslems to the existing body of knowledge accumulated by our species. We cannot hope to change hearts and minds of well-meaning Moslems by denying those contributions, and, importantly, we have no need to do so.
How I’d love to have Nonie Darwish weigh in at this point!
Ref. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventions_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world
6 years ago
Reply to
Liatris Spicata
I suppose part of my point is that all inventions have somebody else’s DNA in them- that is simply the nature of invention (I say that even though I was harshly critical of Obama’s fatuous claims that “you didn’t built that”- easy for someone who never built anything to say). American invention has European DNA, Western European invention has Greek and Roman DNA.
But I don’t think I get “carried away” with Moslem invention- I just don’t want to deny truth (leave that to Moslem “historians”). Bernard Lewis wrote a book that addressed the decay of the Moslem world: “What Went Wrong”.
We pretty much agree on the value of the contributions here of insulting loudmouths like Mahou- but she is far from alone.
6 years ago
Reply to
Liatris Spicata
Dipstick, what is the Pythagorean theorem but an algebraic equation?
6 years ago
Reply to
Liatris Spicata
So you say Flaccid Flower, but the Pythagorean theorem predates your child molesting, Jew hating, fascist death cult by centuries. Go pound sand.
6 years ago
Reply to
Liatris Spicata
There isn’t one sound argument in your answer. It’s all 100% brainwashed BS
How would you know, given that you didn’t address my argment in any meaningful way? Instead, you ranted mindlessly and semi-coherently. Great- just what this site needs.
6 years ago
Reply to
Liatris Spicata
“I think Islam has a reasonable claim to having been more tolerant…of Jews than even the pre-Holocaust world.” Really? What about the ahadith that plainly call for a worldwide genocide of Jews? What about the fact muhamMAD the prophet slaughtered/enslaved/expelled all the Jews from Soddy Barbaria for all time? Is that your idea of “tolerance”?
6 years ago
Alas Canada.
6 years ago
6 years ago
I have no problem with FGM in Islam, if it is accompanied by Male Genital Mutilation as well. In the good old days the King would say “Off with his head” but now the courts can say “Off with his balls”.
6 years ago
Taqiyya,not sure of spelling.
6 years ago
Barbaric and sick are those that think FGM is in anyway a normal thing to do to a woman. Islam is about the CONTROL of women and nothing else! It’s a cult and should be erased the way the left wants to erase Confederate monuments.
6 years ago
“Jewish controlled media” — a standard muslum meme the world over. It’s hard to imagine the muslum world could survive without Jews, their favorite scapegoat for everything from stealing their nuts in Gaza to controlling sharks in Egypt.
