Tell us again how Islam empowers women. Cue terror spox and leftwing feminist leader Linda Sarsour.
Video from Turkey: Man strikes woman for wearing shorts during Ramadan
June 21, 2017 12:10 pm By Robert Spencer
Wearing shorts during Ramadan: an offense to Allah. Striking a woman who is wearing shorts during Ramadan: a blessed act. After all, the Qur’an commands Muslim men to “beat” from from whom they “fear disobedience” (4:34)
Story continues below advertisement“Outcry after Turkish woman assaulted for ‘wearing shorts in Ramadan,’” AFP, June 21, 2017:
ISTANBUL (AFP) – A Turkish man assaulted a young woman on an Istanbul bus for wearing shorts during the holy Muslim fasting month of Ramadan, images showed Wednesday, sparking a furore among women’s rights activists.
University student Asena Melisa Saglam was travelling on the bus when the man seated behind her struck her in the face, images published by Turkish media showed.
She responded by chasing after him but he grabbed her and slung her to the back of the bus before running out of the vehicle.
Saglam said that throughout the journey the man had been verbally harassing her by saying she should not be wearing shorts during Ramadan.
The man was detained but following questioning — in which he reportedly said he had been “provoked” — he was set free, causing a new outcry.
“The release of the attacker is a threat to all women,” the women’s rights organisation We Will Stop Femicide Platform wrote on Twitter.
“We will wear whatever we want outside. We will not give up our freedoms.”
Following the outcry, an order was given to re-arrest the man but it was not immediately clear if he had been detained again.
Saglam, 21, was quoted by the Hurriyet daily as saying: “From the moment I sat down he was making these remarks ‘you dress like this during Ramadan? You should feel ashamed to be dressed like that’.”
She said she put on her headphones and ignored him but then he got up, hitting her so the side of her jaw hit the bus window.
According to the Platform, 173 women have been murdered in the first five months of 2017 and 328 in 2016….
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Hey – the Muslim didn’t do the usual and behead her…
Yes, I wonder what Linda Soursewer would have to say if she were in that situation. The attacker should have the same thing done to him, publicly with a cane and made to pay a fine to the girl.
Rapeathon is such a sweet time of year… in HELL.
Truly impressive the way todays feminists are totally subservient to their muslim male masters. It used to be to be a “feminist” was being an unpaid prostitute to show you were in control of what you did. Now. feminists are screwing everything in sight, especially other women in every way possible.
This is islam, this is what democrats and feminists want for America. The bad part is there are lots of grovelling snivelling women that agree.
Yes, it never fails to amaze me how feminists who in previous generations fought for equality with men now appear to be fighting for the right to be completely dominated by men.
With muslims fully in control of the feminist movement, which now puts it in control of the male owners of the likes of sorasour and the like, there is no feminist movement. Like you say, there is a movement by some dominated women to consolidate and solidify the control of women by misogynistic islam.
The feminist notion of ‘objectification’ harmonizes perfectly with the muslim notion of modesty.
While feminists are trying to cover women up in the name of ‘objectification’ and ‘sexualization’, muslims are trying to cover women up in the name of islamic norms.
Although they have different motivations, they will both will lead to the same result – Women covering up and losing the right to wear what they want.
On the contrary, feminists are stripping off and reserving the right to go about practically naked to prove women are in control of their own bodies. Quite bizarre thinking, but the opposite of what Muslims permit their women to do.
Those are the other type of feminists. There are 2 types – Sex positive and sex negative. The one he referred to are the ones who are the majority. Minority does what you said, but unfortunately that is not the end of it. Feminists are today aligned with muslims, and that is in large part due to the convergence on the “objectification” rationale.
Remember the london mayor banning bikinis ads on subways in london? That was a recent example of this accord. Feminists were whining about the “objectification” as always, and wanting to remove those ads, and the muslim mayor saw the opportunity and seized it claiming – Body shaming ads will not be permitted. So because of the feminists, the muslim got the excuse to cover women up. This is how it works. It does not matter if you take different trains – So long you are reaching the same destination. Feminists and muslims might be taking different trains – But are reaching the same destination – Covering women up.
I think you are missing an important point here. Muslim women aren’t necessarily forced by men to cover up by their husbands. I’ve talked to Muslim women about it. It’s part of the religion. They do it for God, not because it’s forced on them by men. They also do it out of modesty and because they believe it frees them from being objectified, as has been pointed out here. It’s their choice.
However, it’s not always their choice. In some societies (Saudi, Afghani, etc.) it’s controlled by law and culture. But I live in a city where there are 10s of thousands of Muslim women, and I’m willing to bet that for the vast majority it’s something they choose.
That said, I’m not arguing that Islam is free of misogyny. I just think the perception of why women cover themselves is not always accurate.
Our culture says it’s fine for women to go around in short short and bikini tops parading their boob jobs. Casual sex is glorified in the media. Women come to associate their worth with their measurements, with Barbie as the impossible ideal. This doesn’t seem to me a very healthy attitude either.
And the make-up, very often heavily applied, particularly around the eyes which are known as the window to the soul. Is that also for God and modesty?
I hadn’t noticed that at all, and some days I see dozens of Muslim women. Maybe it’s a cultural thing, varying from country to country or community to community? But if, as you say, the eyes are the windows to the soul, is that not emphasizing the soul over the body? Muslim women are still individuals, and (where I live) some wear colorful hijabs as a means of self-expression. I don’t think modesty about sexuality is the same as hiding one’s beauty or one’s Self.
Of course, extremist “Islam” has been a factor. From what I’ve read about Muhammed, I believe he would have been appalled at the way women are treated in some places. Even though he didn’t see women as equals of men, he did give them some rights which they didn’t have under traditional Arab tribal society, like the right to inherit property. Marriage, according to the Quran, is supposed to be between consenting adults (in the society of the time, that meant puberty, which is obviously still too young to be physically safe, but it wasn’t so different in Medieval Europe). (Many call him a pedophile, but there is much debate over how old Aisha was when they married, with evidence from the haddith of anywhere between 9 and 19. She was betrothed to another before she was to him.)
Men are also bidden by the Quran to cover themselves from elbows to knees at least, and in some places/times they also covered their heads, had beards, wore robes, etc.
One can take a cultural and historical perspective. Islam arose at a time and in an area where women were already veiled, though to what degree I don’t know. In Victorian times in the West it was considered immodest for a woman to show any part of her leg. Catholic nuns used to wear habits as an expression of their devotion and “marriage” to Christ. At the other end of the spectrum are primitive tribes living in the tropics that reveal practically everything. A large part of what people react to is what they are used to – or not used to.
It’s a very complex question, but those who wish to hate Islam will do so whether they understand it or not. For example, the allusion at the beginning of the article, “After all, the Qur’an commands Muslim men to ‘beat’ from from whom they ‘fear disobedience’ (4:34)” is in no way applicable to the situation. It’s ridiculous. The internet is full of this kind of hate-inspired propaganda.
Now the same thing is happening between liberals and conservatives. America is being torn apart by hatred and lack of understanding and tribalism. It weakens us as a nation.
There is no more Democrat party. It morph into the Liberal Jihadist Party. It is extinct and the transition was slow and not noticeable until last year.
You are right, the democrats are now islamic carpet baggers peddling selling snake zam zam water to yokels who gather at their travelling muslim medicine revival, come to muhammad, police beat upon him, shows.
dumb broad, he should have kicked her in the face.
Any violent loser such as the one you support should be kneed in the groin. But then again, such ‘men’ usually only turn to violence to compensate for their own inadequacy in that area.
What an @$$HOLE!
*** crickets chirping ***
Twotless tracey and “sour grapes” orgasms are for unbelievers, a real muslim women would never have one.
LMAO!
That is islam, who in their right mind would even look at it?
Miss IslamicWorld, 2017
I thought that title was only reserved for female goats?
He was ashamed that he got aroused, and took his frustrations out on the first goat he encountered.
How secular! Honor killings still go on in Turkey to this day. Over on wikiislam.net a Turkish woman forced into a polygamous marriage in Germanistan discussed how her older sister was honor killed for getting pregnant out of wedlock and how nearly the entire village she lived in knew her sister was to be stoned to death — the all muslum Turkish authorities did NOTHING.
Just for laughs I’d like to hear about what kind of muslum “justice” this man will receive for slapping this woman around.
Maybe Erdie will invite him for coffee or a Ramadan dinner.
Those are some bad @ss looking Turkish police! Look more like motorcycle gangsters 🙂
I like it that she went for him and in Turkey! The women have more cojones than the men!
He barely hit her. Her face didn’t bounce off anything. But honestly that doesn’t matter. This piece of crap should be in a cage the rest of his life. That’s NOT human behavior. These FREAKS are full of hell and spread their foul stench around the world.
I’ve seen religious Jewish men do worse to women they don’t think are dressed modestly enough. Equally wrong.
Isn’t that what Linda Sarsour wants here for women?