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But you did question it… and that’s all that I was objecting too. Now, you go on to a particular area of concern, which deserve discussion but that isn’t the issue here. Pamela did refer to the global warming nonsense, as has been used for all manner of criticism of western culture, beyond any reasonable context. That, and the lying and fraudulence, you also did not and do not wish to discuss… and these are vast and profound.
I also posit that this was and is what she was implying, not the further discussions as to climate science. Also, this is not the discussion at hand but then, I would add to your question about warming this: have you seen any realistic program that actually effects any change, because I haven’t, except to bankrupt the world and give all the money to 3rd world nations out of guilt, and that is part of the global absurdity movement attached to global warming as a movement.

And the rise in green house gases has occured naturally without any input from humankind.
Let me quote from a text: Neither the rate nor the magintude of the reported late 20th century surface warming (1979-2000) lay outside normal natural variability. The late 20th century warm peak was of no greater magnitude than previous peaks caused entirely by natural forces and feedbacks. Historically, increases in atmospheric CO2, followed increased in temperature, they did not precede them. Therefore, CO2 levels could not have forced temperatures to rise. Solar forcings are not too small to explain 20th century warming. In fact, their effect could be of equal to or greater than the effect of CO2 in the atmosphere. A warming of 2ºC or more during the 21st century would probably not be harful, on balance, because many areas of the world would benefit from or adjust to this climate change.. from
‘Why Scientists Disagree About Global Warming- the NIPCC Report on Scientific Consensus- S Fred Singer, Robert M Carter, Craig D Idso

A quote from a climate scientist which I found interesting: “When I participated in a NASA media conference call on Sept 22, 2008, I learned that NASA was announcing the findings from the satellite Ulysses after its 18 year voyage studying the Sun. The Ulysses passed the Sun three times. The first pass was during a solar minimum (a period of lower activity). The second pass of the Sun was during a solar maximum and the third pass during a less active period similar to the first pass (solar cycle 23). They noticed large differences between the two minimums, that on the third pass the Sun was emitting much less energy than the first pass, and the lowest amount of solar energy ever recorded (since the beginning of modern measurement with the advent of the space program). This only confirms my suspicion that the Sun is the primary driver of the world’s temperatures and not mankind. This explains the warming of the 1980’s and 1990’s and for the last sixteen years when global temperatures have not been increasing.

I have found that natural forces, and not CO2, are the primary drivers of our global climate. Solar activity, ocean cycles (PDO and AMO), as well as volcanic activity have the largest impact, by far, on temperatures. Never in geological history has CO2 been a driver of the climate. I was surprised to learn that in 85% of the last 600,000,000 years, CO2 levels were higher than today. They were at least 5 times times higher in the Dinosaur Period. There were also three ice ages with more CO2 than today, one had fifteen times more!

CO2 levels were higher than today in 85% of the past 600 million years

CO2 levels were as much as 20 times higher than today.

CO2 levels were 5 times higher in the Dinosaur Period.

There were 3 ices ages with more CO2 than today, one had 15 times more.

CO2 levels are, today, among the lowest in the history of the planet.

CO2 has never been observed to be a driver of the climate in the geological

record!

Satellites show that there has been no measurable atmospheric global warming

for almost 19 years (with the exception of the recent El Nino from natural causes).

Global temperatures are not the warmest ever, temperatures were mostly

warmer in the prior 8,000 years and including the Roman and Medieval Periods

I simply quoted scientists with some expertise. You made assertions essentially demanding that we are in a critical period where the worst must be assumed. I mentioned the perfidy and lying that has accompanied this period of fairly fraudulent research and politicization, and questioned the veracity of that forced urgency demanding that you use again and again. So… now, it’s your right to demean my quotes as beneath your level… isn’t that part of your demand for whatever it is your demanding, which is, what it is…. demanding. Oh, and you and your specific challenge was addressed by the scientists I quoted but for you, and Al Gore it’s your way or the highway… isn’t it? I personally support full research on the issues, but criminal prosecution of the frauds, and liars is long overdue… and without this there can’t be a return to a semblance of genuine science.