Obama airdrops 50 tons of ammo to ‘moderate Al Qaeda’ in Syria, Islamic State Seizes U.S. Missiles in Iraq

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The Obama administration just airdropped 50 tons of ammo for Syrian rebels, also known as “moderate al Qaeda,” after his “moderate” training mission ended in abject failure. The US spent 500 million dollars to train 4 or 5 fighters. That’s a catastrophic failure. This massive ammo drop comes amidst reports that ISIS has a large cache of U.S. weapons and missiles.

Obama is arming the jihadists, but wants to take our guns away.

Iraqi forces combatting IS (also known as ISIS or ISIL) are said to have found a stockpile of U.S. weapons, including ammunition and anti-armor missiles, hidden at sites controlled by terrorist forces,

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Is Obama taking on Putin or aiding ISIS or both? Obama is pouring kerosene into a raging fire.

Who is Obama giving this weapons load to? The same jihadists who have turned over their American-made arms to ISIS. Previously Obama armed the “Syrian rebels,” and many of these arms fell into the hands of ISIS, and the Syrian rebels he armed have the same jihad goal that ISIS does. The US military has admitted that Syrian rebels exchanged US-equipment with al-Qaeda. Why re-arm ISIS?

And in Iraq, these people he has supported and armed become the enemy. This is ridiculous and incoherent.

The Islamic supremacists and their apologists have been ridiculing me for saying that Obama is the most dangerous man in the world. But he is, and I stand by that statement.

“US military airdrops 50 tons of ammo for Syrian fighters, after training mission ends,” By Lucas Tomlinson, October 12, 2015, FoxNews.com

US halts rebel training as Russia escalates Syria presence

The U.S. military airdropped 50 tons of small arms ammo and grenades in northern Syria on Sunday, a senior defense official told Fox News, representing the Pentagon’s shift from training rebel fighters to equipping them.

Coming just two days after the Defense Department announced it was effectively ending its current training program, the airdrop delivery was made Sunday by four C-17 transport aircraft. The 112 pallets contained ammunition for M-16s and AK-47s.

“All the pallets reached friendly forces,” the official said, adding that the drop “looked similar to what we did in Kobani.” This referred to one of the few bright spots in the war against the Islamic State when the U.S. military dropped weapons to Syrian Kurdish fighters, known as the YPG, who successfully expelled ISIS from the Turkish-Syrian border town of Kobani earlier this year.

This time, the official said Syrian Kurds were not recipients of the U.S. airdrop — only Syrian Arabs fighting ISIS. There is sensitivity in Washington over arming Syrian Kurds, whom Turkey sees as an enemy but the U.S. counts as a NATO ally. The 50 tons of supplies were airdropped into Al-Hasakah province, home to Syrian Kurds, Arabs and a minority Assyrian community. The ammunition originally was intended for the U.S. military’s “train and equip” mission, the official said. But that program was canceled last week.

Report: Islamic State Seizes U.S. Missiles in Iraq, Washington Free Beacon, October 12, 2015

The Pentagon acknowledged on Monday that Iraqi forces could have discovered a cache of U.S. weapons and missiles seized by Islamic State (IS) militants operating in the country, according to U.S. officials and regional media reports.

Iraqi forces combatting IS (also known as ISIS or ISIL) are said to have found a stockpile of U.S. weapons, including ammunition and anti-armor missiles, hidden at sites controlled by terrorist forces, according to foreign military sources who spoke to Iran’s state-controlled Fars News Agency. This is said to include a “huge volume” of advanced TOW II anti-tank missiles.

When asked to address the reports on Monday, a Pentagon official acknowledged that U.S. weapons had gone missing last year, but denied that the United States was intentionally arming IS or its affiliates in the region.

“As you may recall, when ISIL overran Iraqi positions last year, we were aware of ISIL capturing some Iraqi weapons and equipment that had been supplied by the U.S. to Iraqi forces,” the official said. “However, the claims that U.S. and Coalition forces are directly supplying ISIL with any weapons, equipment, or ammunition are completely false.”

Fars claimed the U.S. weapons and ammunition were discovered over the weekend near the Iraqi city of Fallujah and that they had been “airdropped” into the area by American forces.

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Roger Wallace
Roger Wallace
8 years ago

It makes one wonder if Obama is arming ISIS through the back door to go against Russia.

Judi
Judi
8 years ago
Reply to  Roger Wallace

Nothing that POS does would surprise me.

Cedrik Thibert
Cedrik Thibert
8 years ago
Reply to  Judi

Even betraying the United States of America.

Angel Warrior
Angel Warrior
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

He already did that before he became President!

SheGaveBirth2sAtan
SheGaveBirth2sAtan
8 years ago
Reply to  Roger Wallace

He’s probably been arming them the whole time to eliminate Assad.

Angel Warrior
Angel Warrior
8 years ago

Bingo! Saudi Arabia wants to get rid of Assad because he said NO to attacking Israel ….as did Egypt and Libya…..Saudi’s never use their own people so they had Obama step in and help them out with all the Arab Spring murder and mayhem!
Saudi’s have been funding all the Islamic terrorist organizations ……

SheGaveBirth2sAtan
SheGaveBirth2sAtan
8 years ago
Reply to  Angel Warrior

Makes sense why they refuse any refugees.

Angel Warrior
Angel Warrior
8 years ago

From Canada Free Press canadafreepress.com/article/75107?
~Quote~
How many refugees have the Gulf States taken in? In fact, so-called “brethren nations” of Syria—Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Quatar and others have not accepted a single refugee. What gives? Why aren’t these oil rich, co-religionist nations helping their suffering brothers-in-arms?
The main reason is— they do not have to. It turns out that none of the Gulf Nations signed a document called the “1951 U.N. Refugee Convention”— therefore they are exempt from accepting refugees into their nations. How fortunate for them.
our mainstream media sources have yet to reveal these facts. As with all issues related to immigration policy, there is more to the story than meets the eye. At present, what the eyes of Canadians are witnessing is far from a complete picture. The fact is, political correctness, candidate posturing and vote-pandering are playing a pivotal role in the general perception of the refugee crisis.
The refugee situation may well impact the entire world, however this does not mean the entire world is responsible. Until this is properly understood by the Canadian public, the Syrian refugee crisis will function as yet another weapon in the hands of Canada’s politically correct, pro-immigration contingent.
~end Quote~
Some Western Nations are being hoodwinked by Islam….Canada is not one of them though. All refugees coming into Canada now are scrutinized for terrorist affiliations and criminal activity they may have been or are involved in…..even if the UN has said they are legit. We do our own background checks to make sure. This is part of the reason why Harper had Bill C-51….it gave our CSIS more powers to do this. CSIS is working with the Israeli Intelligence Agency to get pertinent info. that we may not necessarily have available to us by other means.

Cedrik Thibert
Cedrik Thibert
8 years ago
Reply to  Roger Wallace

Are you seriously asking the question??????????

wilypagan
wilypagan
8 years ago
Reply to  Roger Wallace

Duh. He is arming them, because he is an islamofascist himself.

Cedrik Thibert
Cedrik Thibert
8 years ago
Reply to  wilypagan

Obama told to the Nation that 911 was indeed a FALSE FLAG attack.
AL Qaeda was working for USA the whole time…

Richard
Richard
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

Please provide a reference to substantiate this claim.

Will
Will
8 years ago

So from September 11, we’ve moved to fighting Al Qaeda, to actively supporting them. The one and only Barack Obama.

Cedrik Thibert
Cedrik Thibert
8 years ago
Reply to  Will

I don’t think we moved anywhere to be honest!
Moderate ‘Al Qaeda’ ????!!!!!??? Is that a joke???
911 is false-flag attack!!! Obama is a traitor!

Richard
Richard
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

We know the identity of the hijackers and the mastermind of 9-11. It was not false flag. Give it a rest, especially since the remainder of your comments make sense.

Cedrik Thibert
Cedrik Thibert
8 years ago
Reply to  Richard

Yeah they were working for USA!
Obama just sent them weapons, also ISIS is working for USA as well!

Julie Harbinger
Julie Harbinger
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

The USA govt has been overthrown, the americans just don’t know it yet.

SheGaveBirth2sAtan
SheGaveBirth2sAtan
8 years ago

A Kennedy confronted me in a store and gave me his card. He mentioned the same thing about our govt. had been taken over and he was working with the IDF in a plan they had developed for this. He stated it started with 9-11 and that was used to keep the attention off where terrorists had been dropped in to start blending in with the population and getting into gov.
I really thought he was crazy as hell, but maybe he had some truth to it seeing the way our country is going.

Cedrik Thibert
Cedrik Thibert
8 years ago
Reply to  Richard

When USA says ‘Moderate AL Qaeda’ and you don’t undertand that 911 was a FALSE FLAG attack than you have a problem…

Will
Will
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

Obama is a traitor, but I don’t think 9-11 was a false flag. If US Intel can be accused of one thing on that occasion, it was of gross negligence.

Cedrik Thibert
Cedrik Thibert
8 years ago
Reply to  Will

Think again… if Obama says ‘Moderate Al Qaeda’ it literally means it was working for USA all that time…
They are even giving them ammunitions.. yeah 911 was DEFINITELY without a doubt a FALSE FLAG attack.
Also the first Family who left USA was Osama’s Family, another proof is that all the pilots were trained in US.. all that rings that it was planned in USA to justify both Afghanistan and Iraq invasion.

calynn
calynn
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

The Bin Ladens scrambling to leave the country when supposedly ALL airspace was shut down is not common knowledge.

Po Tato
Po Tato
8 years ago
Reply to  calynn

That was a common knowledge, no, not for the common Christian people, but for many of the moslems

SFTOBEY
SFTOBEY
8 years ago
Reply to  calynn

…and being ALLOWED to by Bush the Younger!

Julie Harbinger
Julie Harbinger
8 years ago
Reply to  SFTOBEY

American govt thinks that saudi arabia is its friend, but in fact it is its enemy. But up until today, the american govt still operate as if muslims are their friends despite all the evidence that points to the contrary.

Po Tato
Po Tato
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

Obama is a traitor, and the saying of traitor can never be taken as truth

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

A troofer. What happened to the passengers and flight crew on those 4 767’s? Because they’ve been missing for a quite a while now. Do you buy your tinfoil hats by the gross?

Patti York
Patti York
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

The troofer= anyone that lacks the cajones to admit America is hated enough that might require them to go to war. Since their pea sized brains match their pea sized balls. we should just place them right on the front lines so they can see for themselves what is happening.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
8 years ago
Reply to  Patti York

Patti:
Yes. And ‘troofers’ are still working on the Kennedy assassination. There are two kinds of JFK truthers. The sensible ones want to know the truth. But there is another group who wants confuse the first group. We know this because the FBI has openly reported that many of the JFK conspiracy theories were published by KGB front companies.

The FBI and CIA know this, but the ‘news’ has managed to avoid reporting it for the last 50 years.

Julie Harbinger
Julie Harbinger
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

The US govt has been overthrown by the muslims. Americans don’t realise that yet.

Po Tato
Po Tato
8 years ago
Reply to  Will

0/11 is not a false flag

Many moslems inside the United States had already been informed, one way or another, to not go to work on that fateful day, if their place of work happened to be in a office tower somewhere in the North East of the country

Richard
Richard
8 years ago
Reply to  Po Tato

What reference would you cite to substantiate this? I’ve seen this claim, but never any substantiation for it.

VicBailey
VicBailey
8 years ago
Reply to  Will

When you can show me how a THIN ALUMINUM plane can fly through a STEEL BUILDING with BEAMS that are 13inx13.5inx 14in and 0.25 thick and the inside beams were 2.50 in thick, splain that to me again! Bubba! And HOW did beams on the ground floors get a clean cut at a 45 degree angle? Semper Fi.

SFTOBEY
SFTOBEY
8 years ago
Reply to  VicBailey

The same way that a splinter of wood can find itself lodged inside of a 2″x4″ during a tornado – velocity.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
8 years ago
Reply to  SFTOBEY

SFtobey:
Yes. As velocity increases, the momentum of the object increases tremendously. An airliner that large has a very large standing weight. Especially when it has enough fuel to reach California, and is loaded with baggage and passengers. At speed, the airliners certainly had sufficient momentum to penetrate the skin of the World Trade center.

And yes, steel does burn. With sufficient heat, the iron begins to combine with oxygen, making iron oxide (rust) which is vaporized, and it later precipitates out, as a fine reddish powder. Welders burn steel all the time. Aircraft aluminum also burns.

Another bizarre news management puzzle for me is the refusal of the media to admit that the World Trade Center towers were very weak. The architect refused to sign off on the final engineering plans. The engineers removed many interior columns from the design, to make a more open feeling in the office spaces. The engineers thought they could get away with it, but the architect, and many others, disagreed. That is probably what led to the pancaking of the floors. And because of momentum, after one floor gives way and pancakes into the one below it, the process picks up speed.

The terrorists appear to have known this. That’s one reason they targeted the WTC buildings. They could be taken down. The Bin Laden family build many large projects in Saudi Arabia.

This is all public knowledge, but the media ignores it.

VicBailey
VicBailey
8 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

It was done for two reasons and two reasons alone, GREED and COINTROL., the Greed was for 7 BILLION DOLLARS and Control was the Patriot act and NSA, Homeland Security, TSA and many other government expansions! WAKE UP! It was a NEW WORLD ORDER HIT All of this can be proved, just like Tower 7 was blown down and wasn’t even hit by anything, But it had a lot of Enron records that needed destroyed! The Buildings were wired with Nano thermite. And Bush’s little brother was the big man in the security of those buildings until the week before the explosions! NO planes hit either building and that has be proved as well! Semper Fi.

Julie Harbinger
Julie Harbinger
8 years ago
Reply to  VicBailey

American govt now works for arab muslim oil sheikhs and if they don’t or won’t then the saudi arabians will carry out more 9/11s? You are deceived. Saudi arabia carried out this attack, in the main. That is why america now works for saudi arabia and muslims. The USA govt is overthrown, and muslims catapaulted into the White House, due to 9/11.

VicBailey
VicBailey
8 years ago
Reply to  SFTOBEY

#1 There wasn’t a tornado in NYC that day, and #2 we are talking about steel that is 2.5 in thick not wood, and there is still the 45degree angle cuts. I guess the Easter Bunny did that? Semper Fi.

devilsadvocate
devilsadvocate
8 years ago
Reply to  VicBailey

The amount of kinetic energy of several hundred tons of airplane is phenomenal. The landing gear alone is several tons of incredibly strong steel and metal. Ditto engines. Then there’s the weight of the fuel in those wings.
I really dont see any problem whatsoever, it’s not like every other time planes just bounce off!
Look at Lockerbie the plane made a crater the size of a football field.

VicBailey
VicBailey
8 years ago
Reply to  devilsadvocate

OK I see now, the hijackers had cutting torches and made the 45 degree cuts of the beams, or maybe they had plasma cutters! That would speed up the process. I think that someone has seen too many Roadrunner and Coyote cartoons! That is the ONLY explanation of how the perfect image all the way out to the tip of the wings was cut through those beams. Common sense has LEFT THE BUILDING! Semper Fi.

Will
Will
8 years ago
Reply to  VicBailey

One beam with a particular fracture is nothing. That’s like me accusing you of being a career criminal because you got a parking ticket. And as others told you, material of lower density can easily go through higher density materials with sufficient force. Ultra high pressure water is used to cut through steel! Get a basic grasp of physics you dumb f*ck.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago
Reply to  VicBailey

How did Japanese Kamikaze planes manage to damage and sink USN ships during WW2? Those ships were sometimes armored and were all made of steel. The USS Franklin, a fleet carrier, was nearly sunk by Kamikazes.

VicBailey
VicBailey
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Because they all had BIG BOMBS on the planes, and it usually took more than one to take a ship down. One Carrier was hit 6 times but wasn’t sunk, out of all the ships during the war only 30 ships were sunk by kamikaze planes. In 1945 A B-25 Bomber plane hit the Empire State Building, yet its still standing! And that building was concrete and steel. Semper Fi.

Julie Harbinger
Julie Harbinger
8 years ago
Reply to  VicBailey

The fuel was enhanced to combust and other fuel enhancers were on those planes.

Julie Harbinger
Julie Harbinger
8 years ago
Reply to  VicBailey

Obviously there were fuel enhancers placed on that plane too. And as much as you like to believe that the muslims did not do this, they did, and ever since, America has been at the beck and call of the muslim oil sheikhs. It is kind of: if you don’t do what I say, we will bomb your people again and again. So resources and american lives are placed at the disposal of muslims who are fighting other muslims.

Po Tato
Po Tato
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

It is not the USA which said ‘Moderate Al Qaeda’ – the people of USA will never say such a thing

The ones who do that kind of proclamation are traitors to the People of the United States of America

Julie Harbinger
Julie Harbinger
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

911 catapaulted the muslims straight into the White House. American govt is overthrown and all its resources and people’s lives are at the disposal of the stinking rich arab muslim oil sheikhs whom seem to have an extraordinary grip on the west, bribing, blackmailing, intimidating, murdering those who become obstacles to their goal of destroying america and the west, to establish their koranic global caliphate. But no keep on hiding your head in the sand. The very fact that Saudi Arabia is now the head of the Commission on Human Rights and is supported by the USA, tells you everything you need to know about the relationship between these royal muslim sheikhs and the US govt.

Angel Warrior
Angel Warrior
8 years ago

Obama was paid by the Saudi’s to bring down America….he is their little puppet in the WH.

jhantheman
jhantheman
8 years ago
Reply to  Richard

Yeah, everything else about the war on terror has been a lie except 9/11 right? Here’s your sign….

Julie Harbinger
Julie Harbinger
8 years ago
Reply to  jhantheman

The only problem we have are the muslims and their paid and blackmailed agents embedded in american and western governments.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
8 years ago
Reply to  Richard

(1) Richard:
I like your avatar! And yes, he’s a lunatic. I have no problem with truthers, as long as they actually find and analyse the truth. Real conspiracies do occur, and clearly those hijackers knew that a NORAD anti-terrorist exercise was going on around New York and Washington at exactly the same time. The same thing happened in the London subway bombing. How did the terrorists know?

And Michelle Obama knew the two Islamists who worked for Magic Plumbing…

Truthers also hate it when Obama gets blamed. It’s supposed to be Cheney, Jews, or Aliens who did it. But the biggest loose end is “Magic Plumbing”. It was a fly-by-night op based in New York, run by what appears to have been a Russian/Ukrainian agent. Two Islamists working for Magic got into the World Trade Center sprinkler system area. On 9/11, the sprinklers for towers 1 and 2 both worked. But they failed in building 5, no reason found. It was 5 that collapsed internally from massive and unchecked fires.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
8 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

(2) The ‘news’ has been managed around the Michelle Obama connection ever since. Later, investigators looked into how those illegal immigrant ‘plumbers’ got their driver’s licences. The key prosecution witness knew the men, and also worked at the driver’s licence department.

Just before the trial, she was killed when her car exploded and burned in an underground parking garage. The ‘news’ was managed around that event as well.

Most truthers don’t want to hear any of this. But I hope that some smart people are still digging.

Richard
Richard
8 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Someone once posted a list of all of the people that were killed who had dirt on the Clintons. It included which Clinton scandal they were involved in, how they met their demise, and how much effort had been spent to solve the murder. The list was two pages long.

Obama is associated with a similar list, and most of the people on Obama’s list were killed to keep his homosexual activities hushed.

The other day I had the news on TV for background, not really watching – but listening. The talking head reading the news was reporting on someone found dead with TWO shots to the head. Then he said authorities determined it was a suicide. I stopped what I was doing to look up at the screen and the talking head had not reaction to what he’d just read. Suicide, two to the head? Murders of convenience by oligarchs have become so common the media are numb to them.

SFTOBEY
SFTOBEY
8 years ago
Reply to  Richard

TWO shots to the head – and a “suicide” at that?? Now THAT’S a trick for the ages!

devilsadvocate
devilsadvocate
8 years ago
Reply to  Richard

Mmm, it is a good trick unless he used an automatic weapon. Or maybe he really did shoot himself twice , plenty of would be suicides call 911 to report that theyve shot themselves in the head. There are pictures on the internet (so it must be true!) of guys with fishing spears through the head walking in to the ER or that dude with the huge pneumatic drill that had run thru his head- still talking and walking!

Ace
Ace
8 years ago
Reply to  devilsadvocate

I think that last guy got elected to the Senate in Arizona.

VicBailey
VicBailey
8 years ago
Reply to  Richard

If it wasn’t a false flag then answer me this. WHEN has an aluminum plane been able to fly through a STEEL building, and have the wings penetrate the side of the building? That is completely IMPOSSABLE! That would be like a Balsa wood toy plane flying through 2x4s standing about 4 inches apart. THINK PEOPLE THINK! You all CAN’T be that STUPID! And DON’T forget that Bush swore to all of this fasade, and that he and his family wants the New World Order to take America OVER! Semper Fi.

Julie Harbinger
Julie Harbinger
8 years ago
Reply to  VicBailey

You are, of course, part of the problem. The only reason america invaded iraq is for the sake of saudi arabia whom were fearful of the rise of muslims against them. As always the west or Russia has to sort out these problems created entirely by muslims.

shashumna
shashumna
8 years ago
Reply to  VicBailey

Your knowledge of physics is very poor. Aluminum is harder and stronger then steel. Speed increased energy of impact exponentially.
Literally hundreds of cameras showed the aircraft impacting the towers.

Richard
Richard
8 years ago
Reply to  shashumna

I have problems with your comment. The best steel is harder and stronger than the best aluminum. This is coming from someone with around 28 years of stress analysis experience, pulling material properties from MIL-HDBK-5 and MMPDS. Material strength is measured in psi. The lowest common steel is A36 with an ultimate strength of 36,000 psi (36ksi) and is often referred to as bridge steel. Rebar is typically 60 ksi steel. Steel fasteners of aerospace quality are usually A286 of 180 ksi min ultimate strength. There are steels, like Custom 455 or 13-8MO that can exceed 200 ksi in strength.
Steel is generally harder than aluminum, regardless of strength. How I wish I’d burned a pdf of the MMPDS before I retired, it’s at least a $600 reference.

Commercial airliners are typically skinned in alclad 2024-T3 with a typical strength of around 70 ksi. Other alloys are used for fittings, stringers, rivets and things. And there is plenty of steel in an aircraft as well. I would expect that the steel used in the primary structure of the towers was of the 60 ksi variety, but I don’t know.

The destruction of twin towers was not a matter of steel vs. aluminum. It was a matter of structural dynamics. You are correct that speed increases energy exponentially; the exponent is 2. Kinetic energy is equal to ½ mvv (that’s v squared, which I don’t know how to create with html) where m is mass and v is velocity.
So, shashumna, you know a bit but your are certainly not speaking from knowledge of material science.
That said, Vic is a proper ass and I applaud your effort to school and shame him. Arabs did it with airplanes. There was no false flag, no thermite, no US involvement. Freaks like Vic are part of the woodwork, like termites.

shashumna
shashumna
8 years ago
Reply to  Richard

Thanks Richard. I am neither a scientist or an engineer. Question though. I was thinking of strength in the context of weight, not volume, so not necessarily harder, denser or stronger by volume. Hopefully I got that part right? I never look at the truther stuff. I read the posts years ago, and read some excellent rebuttals on the web.

Richard
Richard
8 years ago
Reply to  shashumna

Another host of fun facts. Steel weighs about .3 lb/ cubic inch. Aluminum about .1 lb/ cubic inch. These densities are in proportion to the stiffness of the two materials. Think of this property as analogous to a spring constant, it’s called Young’s Modulus. You can look all of this up, it’s second nature to someone with my training.
The stress on a structural member, especially a beam, stringer, or a sheet or plate, is usually primarily due to bending. The equation for bending stress is F=Mc/I where F is stress, M is the bending moment, c is the distance from the neutral axis and I is the moment of inertia of the cross section of the member. The neutral axis is simply the location of the areal centroid of the section. We are dealing with another exponential relationship here on moment of inertia. Lot’s of equations at play that I won’t expound on here but in short bending strength goes up with the square of the thickness of the section, due to the calculation for moment of inertia. So yes, by making a lighter material (aluminum) into a thicker part you can make it stronger than a part made of a heavier material (steel) for the same weight.
Full disclosure, I didn’t use Wiki for this post. It’s just how guys like me think. For a layperson you do have a grasp of the concepts, even though you can’t really … umm… explain why.

I made satellites fly for many years. I know this stuff.

Hey, stay well.

Al Triego
Al Triego
8 years ago
Reply to  Richard

Richard, how can you be so sure about the hijackers and the mastermind? Isn’t it a little suspect that we didn’t have good enough intelligence to stop the attack, but we had the hijackers names within hours? Don’t trust everything you see on television.

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n8zu_kc8oju_wn8zow
8 years ago
Reply to  Richard

We have been under Martial law since 1861 the US Constitution was suspended in 1871 when the USA went bankrupt and FDR made us all enemy combatants March 9,1933. The false flags are flying in USA courts.

catherineinpvb
catherineinpvb
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

Yes, question speaks to ‘just what does moderate ‘al Qaeda’ mean?

Death by a sharp blade against neck. . .or, if less moderate, death by a dull one? Moderate al Qaeda. . . by ‘how many’ tenths of a degree, than say, ISIS?

/Or, perhaps, ‘moderate’ references the cut-off age of children that ISIS would ‘crucify’; or just cut in half, in fact; versus moderate al Qaeda. who perhaps, bring no such horror to children. . preferring the kindness of only a death by beheading; or death by ‘fire’ or drowning – and only for nuisance chldren, such as those who have Christian parents. . .those who attend ‘Church’; or a Christian school. . .

Or. . . maybe ‘moderates per al Qaeda, take NO chid sex slaves. . .Can only wonder;; and ask. . . Really, Obama? And likewise, Media?//

SheGaveBirth2sAtan
SheGaveBirth2sAtan
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

He’s much worse than a traitor. His fruits are manifesting.

George Macdonald
George Macdonald
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

Yes he is .

Po Tato
Po Tato
8 years ago
Reply to  Will

If the next potus comes from the democrooks the Al-Qaeda will be turned into an organization consisting of SAINTS!

catherineinpvb
catherineinpvb
8 years ago
Reply to  Po Tato

And you know, just what that makes us. . .

Nenad
Nenad
8 years ago
Reply to  Po Tato

It’s the greatest threat global security has ever faced. EMP ATTACK.!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLqpHu7kB8A

catherineinpvb
catherineinpvb
8 years ago
Reply to  Will

Yes, acting in concert – or at behest and direction – of The Muslim Brotherhood.

DVultD
DVult
8 years ago
Reply to  Will

That’s real change and if it is I don’t want it.

AMERREVO
AMERREVO
8 years ago

these arms should be sent to putin and assad. they are the only armies fighting isis and alqueda

Cedrik Thibert
Cedrik Thibert
8 years ago
Reply to  AMERREVO

‘Moderate Al-Qaeda’ let’s not forget.

Po Tato
Po Tato
8 years ago
Reply to  AMERREVO

Since the moslem potus is arming the Islamic Terrorists directly it is time we petition the Chinese to arm the Assad forces

Cedrik Thibert
Cedrik Thibert
8 years ago

Moderate ‘Al-Qaeda’????!!!!????? Treachery no less…

Po Tato
Po Tato
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

There are lies, there are damn lies, there are statistics, and then there are incomprehensible bullcrap!

The so-called ‘Moderate Al Qaeda‘ is of the last category

Cedrik Thibert
Cedrik Thibert
8 years ago

911 was indeed a false-flag attack.

Well Done
Well Done
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

9-11 has nothing to do with this – or Obama – and in any event was NOT “false flag”.

Cedrik Thibert
Cedrik Thibert
8 years ago
Reply to  Well Done

You don’t get it, Al Qaeda was working for USA the whole time.
Also, the first Family who left USA soil after 911 was Osama Bin Laden’s Family.
Now we know for sure USA was behind the whole thing to justify their war in Afghanistan and Iraq. Also Bin Laden was from Saoudi Arabia…
USA’s biggest Islamist ally in the Middle-East!

Cedrik Thibert
Cedrik Thibert
8 years ago
Reply to  Well Done

Only idiots would think that ‘Al Qaeda’ can be ‘Moderate’.
Al Qaeda are the ones who were supposedly involved in 911 in the first place…
They also received their plot training in USA…. geez…

Po Tato
Po Tato
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

The ‘planning session’ for 911 was held in a moslem country in Asia – Malaysia

CIA knew about it and had wiretapped the entire proceeding

The fella who organized that 911 planning session is the former prime minister of Malaysia, Mahathir Mohammad

You guys may not know any of these but CIA knew about the whole thing the whole time

However, Malaysia was never punished for holding the 911 planning session and Mahathir Mohammad was never apprehended and tried

VicBailey
VicBailey
8 years ago
Reply to  Po Tato

When did you get off the spaceship? Semper Fi.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
8 years ago
Reply to  VicBailey

VicBailey:
I know, it sounds incredible. But the core of the story is true. They did meet, and the CIA did know about it. It is one of the many puzzle pieces that the multiple US intelligence agencies failed to assemble into a coherent picture. There is good evidence that Bill Clinton worked hard to conceal Islamic terrorism from the US public.

For example, in the EgyptAir disaster, after the aircraft left New York, the Muslim co-pilot locked the pilot out of the cockpit, and pointed the nose straight down, and began shouting Muslim prayers. The pilot had great difficulty getting back in, because he was weightless. Everyone died. Clinton called it an inexplicable suicide.

Cedrik Thibert
Cedrik Thibert
8 years ago
Reply to  Well Done

Obama has nothing to do with 911 but Al Qaeda was working for USA the whole time,
Obama was put into power by the extremists and he is the Head of ISIS as well…
911 was without a doubt perpetrated and planned in USA!

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

Cedrick:
Sorry, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And there is no clear, unambiguous evidentiary pathway to your conclusions.

Please note my comment about the JFK truthers. There are two types. Truthers who seek the truth. And people who want to confuse the people who seek the truth. Many of the JFK conspiracy books were published by KGB front companies. This is well-known by the FBI and CIA. But of course news managers have avoided making that public. It doesn’t fit the narrative.

I call this game ‘crisscross’. Confuse the investigator with thousands of false leads. So far, it has been effective in blocking progress on the JFK case.

Please be aware that there are many 9/11 truthers who simply want to confuse you. For example, the ones who blame the Jews are quite obviously Islamists. And none of the far-out truthers discuss the possibility of Russian involvement.

Please be rigorous in your efforts to verify all facts, right down to their original sources.

Bobby Fiore
Bobby Fiore
8 years ago

They need stinger missles to counter the air campaigns

Richard
Richard
8 years ago

And I can’t even find a well priced brick of 22LR. Hey Obama, how about you airdrop some CCI Mini Mags and Stingers in my back yard?

And if you’re listening I’m also partial to 9 x 19mm, 45 ACP, 38 special, 357 magnum, and 5.56 Nato.

On the other hand I just flashed on the opening scene from Air America and I like my roof as it is, never mind.

James
James
8 years ago

There is no such thing as a moderate muslim. The people Obama is spending your tax money on are the same people who hate America and Americans. Those same people will gladly support ISIS and fight against American troops using the same munitions Obama has supply them.

Taqiyya=Liar and is totally acceptable and supported by sharia law. James Crosby. (2015)

There is no such thing as a moderate muslim. Either you are
a radical muslim killing and destroying for allah (Jihadists) or are supporting radical muslims who are killing and destroying. Shari law demands it.

Obama and his cronies are muslims doing what muslims do. (Proselytizing, perverting the truth, killing, stealing and destroying everything that is not related to Islam). Their primary targets will continue to be the United States and Israel with the ultimate goal of a world caliphate.

The longer Obama is left in the Presidential office the more
he and his stooges will destroy and disgrace Israel and the USA.
1st. is the radicalization of governments in the US and our allies.
2nd. Continue building mosques with radical preachers.
3rd, Indoctrination of the populace and jihad in democratic countries.
4th. Increase muslim and alien immigration to strengthen the demographic base of supporters for and illegal government.
5th. Radicalize the racial populations, and increase strife and divisions. (Divide and conquer).

If the people continue to allow Obama and his cronies to
remain then they also become complicite (a part of it). You are supporting sharia with your taxes and fail to condemn it. You are paying the Jizya.

Muslims will attempt to disassociate themselves from the
terrorist acts and atrocities. Taqiyya=Liar. Do not be deceived. There is no
such thing as a moderate muslim. Either you are a radical muslim killing and destroying for allah (Jihadists) or are supporting radical muslims who are killing and destroying. (Sharai law demands it) there are no exemptions. (DO NOT BE DECIEVED).

60% of the Quran contains verses about killing the kuffar,
(unbelievers or non-muslim) forcing the non-believer to pay Jizya, (a servitude tax). The only alternative is to lose your head.

Sharia law requires (ALL) muslims to pay a charity tithe called Zakat which a portion is used to fund jihadists (Which equals terrorism be it passive or aggressive).

Since 911 muslims have committed over 23.000 acts of terror
or 90% of all terrorist acts are committed by muslims and presently there are about 6 million of them in this country with more coming.

Jesus Christ is Lord

There are 3 primary rules and one supporting rule in islam.

Primary Rules of islam

1. Infidels must be converted to islam. Qur’an:8:39
“Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”

2. Infidels who will not convert must pay a tax to
islam. Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender,
paying the protective tax in submission.”

3. Infidels who do not convert or pay the tax must
be KILLED. Qur’an:9:5 – “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find
them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

Supporting Rule

• All members of islam are allowed to LIE to
Infidels if the LIE supports the growth of islam. Taqiyya

Ask a muslim or anyone who follows islam if they are
allowed to pick and choose which parts of the qur’an to follow? To follow islam is to adhere to every word in the qur’an.

This means there is no such thing as a Moderate
muslim. For someone to follow the qur’an they must submit which means you must submit one way or the other.

They really are trying to convert you, tax you, or
KILL you.

Cedrik Thibert
Cedrik Thibert
8 years ago
Reply to  James

I know moderate Muslims, but I have yet to find a Moderate ‘Al Qaeda’ terrorist.
That’s how Obama tells everybody that 911 was INDEED a FALSE FLAG attack… there is no doubts anymore.

Po Tato
Po Tato
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

I also know quite a few of the so-called ‘moderate moslems‘ – and I assure you, their ‘moderation’ is only skin deep

If you do not trust me you can run the following test yourself — Try questioning your ‘moderate moslem’ friends the credential of their ‘prophet’, especially of that guy having sex with a little girl

Try that and you will see for yourself (if you survive the encounter, that is) what ‘moderate moslems’ really are

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

The “moderate” musswein in Iraq turned on their non-muslim neighbors in a heartbeat once ISIS took over. Ditto for the “moderate” musswein who committed:
1. the Farhud pogrom in Baghdad against Jews
2. the Istanbul pogrom committed against anyone not a muslim

Cedrik Thibert
Cedrik Thibert
8 years ago

The first Family who left USA was Osama’s Bin Laden’s Family after 911.
911 was indeed a FALSE FLAG attack, they did a good job to justify the war in Iraq…
Oh they are form Soudi-Arabia…

Cedrik Thibert
Cedrik Thibert
8 years ago

The Al Qaeda hijackers received their training in USA… geez.
Now we know this whole thing was a scheme perpetrated by the US government…

Cedrik Thibert
Cedrik Thibert
8 years ago

US government’s whole plot is falling apart as we speak, I guess Putin found out of Obama’s plan to use ISIS for a proxy war in Russia and decided he had to destroy them. Obama knows ISIS is getting destroyed and if they get defeated there will have SERIOUS EVIDENCES to PROSECUTED Barrack Hussein Obama for High Treason towards the United States of America. So Obama’s cover is blown and he is panicking, he and his Democrat traitor gang like Hillary knows everything is at stakes, that’s why they suddenly drop all those ammunitions in an attempt to prevent Russia to destroy ISIS completely and denounce Obama! Obama is fucked and he knows it!

Po Tato
Po Tato
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

>… US government’s whole plot is falling apart …

US government’s plot may be falling apart but the moslem POTUS is turning it into his advantage – now he gets to send arm to the Islamic Terrorists using our own military planes!

Dark Chicago
Dark Chicago
8 years ago

So America again begins a proxy war against Russia by arming al queda. That worked out well the first time.

Cedrik Thibert
Cedrik Thibert
8 years ago
Reply to  Dark Chicago

Everything fell in ISIS hands.. ISIS = AL Qaeda…

Dark Chicago
Dark Chicago
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

American culpability can’t be forgotten. We are repeating reagans mistake.

spacearcadian
spacearcadian
8 years ago

So America is arming ISIS

Cedrik Thibert
Cedrik Thibert
8 years ago
Reply to  spacearcadian

Yeah, from the beginning.

Po Tato
Po Tato
8 years ago
Reply to  Cedrik Thibert

The moslem potus has finally found a way to send arm to the Islamic State in the open – and he is delivering the arms using an Air Force plane, to boot!

Cedrik Thibert
Cedrik Thibert
8 years ago

What’s the difference between ISIS, ISIL, AL Qaeda and Moderate AL Qaeda?
Answer: The way how they hold the sword when they behead the infidels.

lee
lee
8 years ago

Obama needs to be air dropped to ISIS.

Artemis
Artemis
8 years ago

Nothing scares me more than a powerful jackass.

Po Tato
Po Tato
8 years ago
Reply to  Artemis

That guy is much worse than a jackass — he is nothing short of a TRAITOR !!!

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
8 years ago

Breaking!
‘Minority Report’: DemocracyRules Discloses
New Algorithm To Stop Islamic Terrorism

– Based on state of the art mathematical multivariate modelling
– Focuses on most dangerous factors
– Predicts dangerous behavior before it even occurs
– Describes how to eliminate the major risk of incitement to violence

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Method:
Identify all Imams who preside over mosques in the US.
Deport them.
Wait six months until new ones are appointed.
Deport them.
Repeat as needed.

Po Tato
Po Tato
8 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Since I have been programming for a long time let me optimize your algorithm using the BASIC language …

10 Identify all the mosques / suraus / places of worships of the moslems

20 Identify all the moslems inside the United States of America
30 Close down and destroy all the mosques / suraus / places of worships of the moslems
40 Round up all the moslems and deport them
50 go to 10

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
8 years ago
Reply to  Po Tato

Po Tato
Well thanks for this. You took pity upon my programming knowledge and used BASIC. Good. I’ve forgotten most of the other languages I knew.
Don’t you need a wait state after line 40? Otherwise, each loop would complete within one second. That’s too fast for the poor old FBI.

Need I point out that your algorithm differs from mine? And to be fair, I suppose both of us need to start our algorithms with “write and pass enabling legislation to carry this out”. But then the program would hang there forever…

KSEMBB1
KSEMBB1
8 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Fact: the only one who lacks PC and therefore will do it is Trump.
Trump 2016!

Kristi17
Kristi17
8 years ago

This is HIGH TREASON for AIDING AND ABETTING OUR ENEMIES!!

Stephen Honig
Stephen Honig
8 years ago

There is no such thing as moderate Al Qaeda. This bastard Obama is going to start a war with Russia. I hope something happens to him, fast.

Jane Johnson
Jane Johnson
8 years ago

Stupid stupid stupid, there is no moderate anything with guns n ammo. Will they moderately shoot you, ridiculous, spending 500 million wow what kind of real change could that idiot do if we spent on our own citizens

Tatonka
Tatonka
8 years ago

If it had been a 50 ton bomb i would’ve been impressed!,….now..not so much

Ribs01670
Ribs01670
8 years ago

If this does not betray the americans as war mongers, nothing will!! The government that is….

VicBailey
VicBailey
8 years ago

How many more times is this BASTARD going to commit Traitorous CRIMES before he is put in prison? TODAY, Would be good! Semper Fi.

Donna Nichols
Donna Nichols
8 years ago

So, ISIS has taken our missiles that we gave Iraq? Another gift for ISIS, Mr Obamanation? And, you gave 50 tons of ammo and grenades to “moderate” Al Qaeda? Are you sure you don’t want to give Russia any spare nuclear weapons? When did this all become the Twilight Zone? Why, I can hear the music, now!!

devilsadvocate
devilsadvocate
8 years ago

How long until Goofy long legged President/Sheik Obola is out of the white house?
This man is a frigging lunatic.

Denae Leigh Armstrong
Denae Leigh Armstrong
8 years ago

Obama didn’t directly drop ammo to them. Obama DID approve the mission of arming rebels, which was thought up by leaders in the Pentagon. If that is what you want to call them. I am disgusted with the president, the leaders of our strategic forces and everyone in our government. This is some of the most stupid strategy ever thought up. I could come up with a better plan than these idiots and I am a freaking admin assistant. 500 million to train like 50 people, who then crossed over the border and turned over their weapons to the enemy. It is just the most ridiculous thing ever.

Lloyd Burgett
Lloyd Burgett
8 years ago

And the clown car rolls on

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

I get the feeling that what the current regime thinks of as “friendly forces” is very different from what the rest of the free world thinks of as “friendly forces”.

Julie Harbinger
Julie Harbinger
8 years ago

They were airdropped by muslims in the american forces, just like the CIA is a muslim operation too.

Angel Warrior
Angel Warrior
8 years ago

CIA is a rogue organization….. not a muslim one…..

katie
katie
8 years ago

Who would take a chance on an airdrop in the middle of a war zone? What the hell is wrong with Obama?

Jane Johnson
Jane Johnson
8 years ago

What is wrong with that guy, stop giving or selling weapons period,
Loyalties change but its all the same group or branch of Islam wither they are killing each other, killing Christian, women, Jews, its all about killing and power. Islam the cult of death, stop helping this cult.

George Macdonald
George Macdonald
8 years ago

If that don’t convince you he’s a musrat, nothing will .even using troops to teach musrats how to combat the west . Send them back .

Robert Bolding
Robert Bolding
8 years ago

that fucking nut is going to get everyone killed someday

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