FGM trial in Australia: “I told you this is a big secret”

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Female genital mutilation (FGM) or clitoridectomy is an Islamic tradition, rampant in the Muslim world. Over 96% of the women in Egypt have been clitoridectomized. Back in 2008, devout members of the Egyptian parliament have made female genital mutilation (circumcision) legal again in Egypt. With the advent of increased Muslim immigration, this has become a pressing issue here in America.

But the denial is all-pervasive: this woman was a member of the Dawoodi Bohra Shia Muslim community, and she told her daughters after they spoke to police: “OK, you told them everything … now we are in trouble … I told you this is a big secret.” And the head of her Muslim community “was also allegedly recorded telling members of the Dawoodi Bohra community to tell police its followers do not believe in female genital mutilation.” More taqiyya, more mutilated girls.

“Female genital mutilation trial: Girl describes ‘little cut down there,'” Stuff.co.nz, September 14 2015 (thanks to TheReligionofPeace.com):

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A mother in NSW allegedly allowed her young daughter to be subjected to a genital mutilation procedure.

The little girl imagined she was a princess in a garden.

The eight-year-old told police she had been told to calm her nerves by thinking of a place she liked, before a procedure called “khatna”, involving a small cut to her genitals.

She told officers she remembered getting a glass of lemonade after the painful procedure, and that “khatna” had also been carried out on her younger sister.

Details of the girl’s interview with police were revealed at the NSW Supreme Court trial of her mother, who can only be known as A2, who is accused of organising the genital mutilation of her daughters between October 2009 and August 2012.

The woman, a member of the Dawoodi Bohra Shia muslim community, has pleaded not guilty.

Another woman, who cannot be identified, has pleaded not guilty to carrying out the alleged mutilation on the girls in separate procedures in Sydney and in Wollongong.

A high-ranking member of the community, Shabbir Mohammedbhai Vaziri, has pleaded not guilty to being an accessory after the fact.

Crown prosecutor Nanette Williams told the jury in her opening address on Monday that police had heard reports of female genital mutilation within the Dawoodi Bohra community, and went to interview the sisters at their school on August 29, 2012.

The eight-year-old girl told police that “khatna” was “when they get a little cut down there”, Williams said.

“She explained she knew what khatna was because it had happened to her. She went into detail that she was seven-years-old when she had her private part cut by an unknown woman.”

The jury heard that when A2 spoke to her daughters after their police interviews, in a conversation secretly recorded by investigators, she allegedly said: “OK, you told them everything … now we are in trouble … I told you this is a big secret.”

The woman accused of carrying out the procedure was allegedly recorded telling the girls’ mother that police should be told she only conducted a check up on the girls, the court heard.

Vaziri was also allegedly recorded telling members of the Dawoodi Bohra community to tell police its followers do not believe in female genital mutilation.

The court heard a doctor who examined the sisters would give evidence there was no scarring, and their external genitalia appeared normal.

Defence barrister Robert Sutherland, SC, for the mother and Vaziri, said there would be no dispute about the vast majority of the case.

He said a “ritualistic” ceremony took place, but a central issue at trial would be whether there was any injury or mutilation to the girls.

“It’s effectively secret women’s business,” Sutherland told the jury.

“Despite the investigative forces of the state being brought to bear because of suspicions that something barbaric happened … this was much ado about nothing.”

The trial is continuing.

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Rick Smith
Rick Smith
8 years ago

Importing a savage ideology lowers the civilization that all have fought and died for. The biggest enemy the West faces is political correctness.

wilypagan
wilypagan
8 years ago
Reply to  Rick Smith

No, the biggest enemy the West faces is islam and its ally in the White House.

Rick Smith
Rick Smith
8 years ago
Reply to  wilypagan

There would be no importing of this evil ideology without the evil political correctness. One of the only countries that doesn’t seem to suffer from self-loathing and political corruptness is Hungary. Political correctness has poisoned the atmosphere in the West to the point anyone who points out the reality of this evil ideology is silenced paving the way for more suicidal pc policy. Islam and the White house are a result of leftwing pc sickness

wilypagan
wilypagan
8 years ago
Reply to  Rick Smith

Ain’t that the truth? I just cooked a big batch of Hungarian goulash in honor of their leader who speaks the truth and protects his people. But never forget, islamofascism is the main enemy.

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8 years ago

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IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago
Reply to  Rick Smith

Antisemitism is on the rise in Hungary…and it’s not because of muslums.

Rick Smith
Rick Smith
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

I suspect like England, the middle and upper classes ignore the fight for freedom and preservation of culture against the Islamic invasion, leaving the front lines to the lower strata of society. If that is the case in Hungary as well, the Jews might be caught up in the old saying a rising tide floats all boats. Old prejudices die hard could be at work too, for Europe has always had a problem with antisemitism is seems. Well they’re gonna find out that the Jews were nothing but a positive plus to their culture. When I look at my North American culture I can’t imagine no Jewish input. Music, movies, literature, science, medicine all crowded with Jewish influence. I for one are more than thankful and will fight on their side forever.

EndDays
EndDays
8 years ago
Reply to  Rick Smith

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Christine Cuneo
Christine Cuneo
8 years ago

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ThisIsSparta
ThisIsSparta
8 years ago

I am sure it is happening across America, in sterile and professional doctor offices, billed to insurance companies by Muslim doctors, and classified as a ” gynecological procedure” performed on a prepubescent girl by her loving parents. Clean ,safe, and permanent. I am sure $1500 cash or Visa will suffice too.

Rushbaby
Rushbaby
8 years ago
Reply to  ThisIsSparta

I believe you are right! I have no proof, but I know it is happening…. How sick these people are to do this to their little girls!! How cruel!! usually it is done with a razor by a stupid old woman who could care less! I think they like to see the kids suffer…..

kane
kane
8 years ago
Reply to  Rushbaby

Hi Rushbaby,

FGM NOT an approved practice in Islam

What about female circumcision?
Female circumcision is allowed in Islam and is an even less extensive procedure as compared to male circumcision, because it involves just a small trimming of the clitoral hood (which looks like a rooster’s comb), which is the prepuce or “foreskin” of the clitoris (15) (17). (This procedure is not to be confused with female genital mutilation or FGM, which is a totally different procedure involving the removal of the clitoris or altering of the genitalia and is NOT an approved practice in Islam). Recovery is even quicker and there are hardly any short term or long term complications. The benefits with references to medical sources (12) may include improved hygiene, reduced UTI incidences and lower infections of the reproductive systems. It will be interesting to know that in Malaysia, where female circumcision is performed extensively by the Malay-Muslim community, the incidence of cervical cancer in Malay women is lowest amongst the 3 major race groups (Indians, Chinese and Malays). (18)(19) Another study shows that Malay women are at lower risk of orgasmic sexual dysfunction as compared to non-Malays. (20)

purplej
purplej
8 years ago
Reply to  kane

Never in my life have I heard any suggestion that a woman needed to be circumcised for health reasons. And… a study about orgasmic sexual dysfunction… in a muslim country… yeah.. sure… we can all have faith in that (sarcasm drips)

Aside from that, why are you defending this practise? It is largely irrelevant what is allowed in islam. In practise, there is plenty of evidence that girls are mutilated during this procedure so that sex provides no pleasure and their husband can open them up on their wedding night, by force if necessary, and be assured of her virginity. It’s all about control. Men own the women in islam.

And the fact that those involved sought to hide their actions says everything. If it is such a great procedure, bring it into the open and convince us non muslims that we are wrong to respect a woman’s right to to her body.

ebonystone
ebonystone
8 years ago
Reply to  ThisIsSparta

Probably covered by Obamacare.

Barbara Wall
Barbara Wall
8 years ago

why is this article even in here if the doctor that checked the girls said there wasn’t any appearance of scarring? Or did the defense win that battle by insisting only a muslim doctor would check the girls…I wonder. These barbaric ‘humans’, and i use the term loosely, are an abomination to civil society .

Rushbaby
Rushbaby
8 years ago
Reply to  Barbara Wall

Barbara.. really? Why. Because Americans need to know about this so we can stop it from happening to these little precious kids… the pain, the possible death… the future suffering.. All so the men can have more fun! God help us all.

Barbara Wall
Barbara Wall
8 years ago
Reply to  Rushbaby

You misunderstood my point. I think anyone that would do that to a little girl is vile, sexual abuser and should go to jail for life. BTW…these ‘humans’ and I use the term loosely, are muslim….not terrorists….just muslim….the elites say that cultural mores are never good or bad, but relevant to their society, its called cultural relativism…that is the foundation of the progressives in this and other countries…sick…There is ‘right’, and ‘wrong’…so i am completely on board with your assessment…its done because men don’t trust women to be faithful, so they remove the incentive of ‘pleasure’…and use women as satifaction holes…

gjm11653
gjm11653
8 years ago

These savages must be done away with. They cannot be changed into humans. There is no way they can be brought into the human world. They are animals of the most barbaric nature. Why they are allowed to breathe clean air is beyond comprehension.

Susannah Fedders
Susannah Fedders
8 years ago

#THE DEVILS WORKERS “PERIOD” #SICK THESE ANIMALS ARE THEIR NOT HUMAN

Judi
Judi
8 years ago

In today’s news, Australia’s Prime Minister Tony Abbott, has been ousted. He was the one who stopped the boatloads of muzzrats coming in from Indonesia. Now I expect that law will be rescinded, and once again the country will be swamped.

RonW
RonW
8 years ago
Reply to  Judi

I’m not sure Turnbull will dare – he knows that that was what shredded the Labor Party at the polls. There will, of course be continued shrill cries for an open border from the usual suspects, aided by the leftist media…

Live Free
Live Free
8 years ago

Notice that this is women doing it to female children!

Donald Lemon
Donald Lemon
8 years ago
Reply to  Live Free

On orders by whom or what?The Koran?

Barbara Wall
Barbara Wall
8 years ago
Reply to  Donald Lemon

of course the quoran….but progressives will jump in and say other peoples do it too…in africa, in south america…and even in the US…yeah sure….that justifies it because it is done elsewhere..islam is sick….and so are people that follow it…subhumans

Lia
Lia
8 years ago
Reply to  Donald Lemon

I don’t think she actually stands for anything or anybody (except the Clintons). It’s just something that sounds good.

Kado
Kado
8 years ago
Reply to  Lia

Totally right. All she/they desire is money and power and the country be damned.

Lia
Lia
8 years ago
Reply to  Kado

We must be the ‘great minds’ of the old adage …

Kado
Kado
8 years ago
Reply to  Lia

An honor to be in such esteemed company.

Lia
Lia
8 years ago
Reply to  Kado

The honour is mine!

Lia
Lia
8 years ago

Praise God for Australia! Where’s the USA’s Mrs Clinton on this?

Donald Lemon
Donald Lemon
8 years ago
Reply to  Lia

She has herself surrounded by Muslims.Abedin and Mills both have strong ties to Muslims in the Mideast .So I would guess,Mrs Clinton would say nothing anti Islam.

Lia
Lia
8 years ago
Reply to  Donald Lemon

The ‘op’ itself is done by men, but yes, the mothers, aunts & grandmothers keep the sick tradition alive. Mrs Clinton stands for women?, does she? I suppose that category does not include female children …

Donald Lemon
Donald Lemon
8 years ago
Reply to  Lia

How can Mrs Clinton stand for women’s rights when she destroyed the women that were raped or sexually abused by her husband? Just to save their sorry careers.I don’t believe she has done one thing to aid the girls and women of Islam

Lia
Lia
8 years ago
Reply to  Donald Lemon

Dear Donald, Mrs Clinton is a fraud … you’re preaching to the choir!

Barbara Wall
Barbara Wall
8 years ago
Reply to  Lia

she is a cultural relativist…just like all of the progressives…

Lia
Lia
8 years ago
Reply to  Barbara Wall

Doesn’t ‘cultural relativism’ sound just like ‘situational ethics’?

tom
tom
8 years ago

Its very sad how muslims cant even let their children just be normal kids. Either some type of marriage at 7 years old or they are getting mutilated! My god this whole muslim community and culture is nothing but a fake religion. Every muslim is poison of the world

kane
kane
8 years ago
Reply to  tom

Hi Tom,

The minimum age for marriage in the US-State of Delaware in year 1895 was 7. Yes, SEVEN.

FGM NOT an approved practice in Islam

What about female circumcision?
Female circumcision is allowed in Islam and is an even less extensive procedure as compared to male circumcision, because it involves just a small trimming of the clitoral hood (which looks like a rooster’s comb), which is the prepuce or “foreskin” of the clitoris (15) (17). (This procedure is not to be confused with female genital mutilation or FGM, which is a totally different procedure involving the removal of the clitoris or altering of the genitalia and is NOT an approved practice in Islam). Recovery is even quicker and there are hardly any short term or long term complications. The benefits with references to medical sources (12) may include improved hygiene, reduced UTI incidences and lower infections of the reproductive systems. It will be interesting to know that in Malaysia, where female circumcision is performed extensively by the Malay-Muslim community, the incidence of cervical cancer in Malay women is lowest amongst the 3 major race groups (Indians, Chinese and Malays). (18)(19) Another study shows that Malay women are at lower risk of orgasmic sexual dysfunction as compared to non-Malays. (20)

Islam are the fastest growing religion and spread in peace around the world.

100,000 people per year in America alone, are converting to Islam. For every 1 male convert to Islam, 4 females convert to Islam.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1343954/100-000-Islam-converts-living-UK-White-women-keen-embrace-Muslim-faith.html

Lauren Booth, the sister-in-law of former Prime Minister Tony Blair also converts to Islam.

The survey, conducted by Kevin Brice from Swansea University, asked converts for their views on the negative aspects of British culture.

They identified alcohol and drunkenness, a ‘lack of morality and sexual permissiveness’, and ‘unrestrained consumerism’.

http://www.themodernreligion.com/women/women_why_converting.htm

Rushbaby
Rushbaby
8 years ago

This procedure is absolutely SICK! It is all done for the men, the muslim men to enjoy their sex more! The girls can die from this, but no one cares. When the girl is ready to have a child, they have to recut her ….. read up on it and you will be sickened by this….

Guy Heaton
Guy Heaton
8 years ago

I dont know how any supposed loving father would allow this. I’d die before I let this happen

Denis
Denis
8 years ago

the fathers of every girl who undergoes Genital mutilation shouldbe castrated without anesthetic. then and only then will this practice disappear!

Metatrona
Metatrona
8 years ago

FGM ensures that females feel no pleasure in sex…probably because Muslim men don’t give pleasure and they don’t want any fingers pointing at their lack of manliness.

Whirlwinder
Whirlwinder
8 years ago

A clitoridectomy sounds so clinical. In reality, all labia are removed as well. What a bunch of heathens.

karl59
karl59
8 years ago

Think Obama will let his daughters undergo their genitalia being cut?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ebonystone
ebonystone
8 years ago
Reply to  karl59

And how do you know that they weren’t “cut” years before he was elected?

kktex12
kktex12
8 years ago

Execute each and every one involved with this. Including the lawyer.

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