Poll: 1 in 3 Muslims in the US support violence against those who insult Muhammad, Quran or Islam

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We’re constantly admonished that the jihadis are just a tiny minority of extremists who have hijacked Islam, and told that no Muslims in the U.S. support them — none — and only “islamophobes” think otherwise. This poll, however, tells a different story. And remember: when it comes to controversial hot-button issues, many people hide their true feelings and tell pollsters what they think they want to hear. That means support for Sharia violence in the U.S. is likely to be higher than this.

US Muslims poll

Get the full results here. (Thanks to The Religion of Peace)

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Dexy
Dexy
8 years ago

Dirty, fckpig cur mohamed,
Lots of pss and sht he yammered.
Of his lies were cnts enamoured,
“Killing? Raping? More!” they clamoured.

noreligon
noreligon
8 years ago

Waiting for 17:50 Dutch time as Wilders is going to show some of the cartoons on national TV……..

Red Bee
Red Bee
8 years ago
Reply to  noreligon
Roger
Roger
8 years ago
Reply to  Red Bee

If you can find it on the Web please let me know. I’m the only person left on planet earth that is still on free TV.

Roger
Roger
8 years ago

It is amazing how little most people know of the undoing of this Country. The liberal media keeps their viewers so stupid and misinformed it’s beyond reality. It seems they are in the Twilight Zone. You can see them but you can’t reach them. Everything they hear and see is somehow filtered and distorted. We live in a different dimension than they do.

I watched a teaching series by Rabbi Johnathan Cahn about the Harbinger. This country is under a madness leading us to a place we don’t want to go.

In my opinion next year we must have a landslide victory at the poles. It very well may be the last chance we have to remove the liberals.
Be there!

Semper Fidelis

Fred Smith
Fred Smith
8 years ago
Reply to  Roger

“The liberal media keeps their viewers so stupid and misinformed”….took the words right out of my mind! Just glancing over MSN the Homepage I use on the Internet, I am amazed at what these morons think is news and what they feed their viewers. Celebrity non sense. TV nonsense. Sports non sense. Food and beer non sense. Political non sense. Plus a steady diet of trivia that would befuddle an imbecile. I don’t know if you are in the US, but last night on HBO there was a program named “Real Sports” with Bryant Gumbel. The first segment was all about Qatar and their on going efforts for the 2022 World Cup of men’s soccer. Thousands of slave laborers are brought into the country, mostly from places like India and Nepal, to built the stadiums. No locals from Qatar ever do manual labor! They can’t leave and many die in the heat. The living conditions are appalling. The report touched on the connections between some of Qatar’s elites and terrorism. Islam was never mentioned once, but it was apparent that everything going on associated with the story, was inextricably entwined with Islam. Watch it if you can.

knight
knight
8 years ago
Reply to  Fred Smith

Time to take on the Muslim system and use their weaknessess against them.

Time to unite and work together as a team to conquer Islam and take back what is lost.

The destructive force in Islam we see it in IS, and that has been doining on for 1400 years where they destroy life and history.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fbL5O0u_xbk
http://www.islam-watch.org/home/139-louis-palme/1095-knowing-four-arabic-words-may-save-our-civilization-from-islamic-takeover.html
http://www.islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2456&Itemid=96
http://www.thefullwiki.org/Labarum
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/shroder/040413
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/amin_en.html
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
https://www.google.com.au/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=5ceNVaGeKcHu8wfGir4o#q=bill+warner+1400
http://www.boycotthalal.com/

This is what happens when Islam enters our school system
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bw_0oXjUUEA
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6qzkSes69Rw

Other things to know in history as there is lots to learn.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sB5BNDyGq1c
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SbxUCe8EM6Q
Sorry could not show the one on the history channel, thanks to new laws on media I guess.

http://answering-islam.org/Silas/slavery.htm

ColonelNeville
ColonelNeville
8 years ago
Reply to  Roger

“You can see them but you can’t reach them.” Exactly, and I know this experience well…I too face it everyday. Most people show zero curiosity about anything important and talk about nothing but their rather well, mundane concerns, distractions and amusements. We’re doomed. Gather round friends, resources, faith, books, guns and family. Semper Fi.

Shane
Shane
8 years ago
Reply to  Roger

That support of 29% is probably the lowest in any country with large numbers of Muslims. It is closer to 80% support for sharia and blasphemy laws in Muslim countries like Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Somalia. Why take immigrants from these countries?

Red Bee
Red Bee
8 years ago

The overall picture of the entire poll is consistent with the estimation of experts that about 25% of the Muslims are radicals.

Another interesting result is:

11.“Shariah as interpreted by Islamic authorities is compatible with the U.S. Constitution, including freedom of speech and other rights.”
60%
TOTAL AGREE (NET)
31%
STRONGLY AGREE
30%
SOMEWHAT AGREE
21%
TOTAL DISAGREE (NET)
12%
SOMEWHAT DISAGREE
9%
STRONGLY
DISAGREE
19%
DO NOT KNOW/CANNOT JUDGE

It looks like 90+% of Muslims have no idea what they are talking about. We must reckon with the possibility this is in fact the case.

http://members.ziggo.nl/iiat/

knight
knight
8 years ago

Off topic but about Clinton’s and Islam in the public schools.

I have always seen her with the pants on running Bill, but good for one to read this before you vote for her.

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/shroder/040413

Ban Liberals
Ban Liberals
8 years ago

So can we take a poll to see who supports violence against Muslims?

DVultD
DVult
8 years ago
Reply to  Ban Liberals

How about the number of terrorist attacks committed by muslims compared to the number committed by non-muslims?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  DVult

If we include white supremacy as practiced by American Christians for over 400 years, then it’s not even close. White Supremacy Christian terrorism has committed more acts, sustained at that, than anyone on this earth, by a long shot

IslamDownpressesHumanity
IslamDownpressesHumanity
8 years ago

You’re as dumb as a big, black rock.

Steven
Steven
8 years ago

You mean the Kaaba that Muslims worship along with Mohammad? Even though, they say that only Allah should be worshiped.

It’s interesting how the have a cow when Mohammad is spoken bad of, but not so much with Allah.

DVultD
DVult
8 years ago

How about just looking at last week or last month? If you want to go back further however pislamic terrorism has killed 100s of millions – hindus, africans, armenians, greeks assyrians, jews and on and on and on. Aside from the scale unless you are completely blind then you would see that they are killing and committing atrocities right now on a daily basis.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Ban Liberals

If we take that poll, then should we also ask who supports violence against radical Christians who not only created the oppressive “white supremacy” that infects America to this day, but also justified slavery of african americans through the Bible? Is that a good poll to take too?

Ban Liberals
Ban Liberals
8 years ago

It would be if there were such a thing as LIBERAL MANUFACTURED “white supremacy,” and if not for the FACT the liberals (yesterday’s Democraps) were the slave masters to which you refer, that today profess ignorance and innocence.

Is THAT a good response to your silly prose?

IslamDownpressesHumanity
IslamDownpressesHumanity
8 years ago

Muslims are still enslaving people to this day hypocritical musswein beotch.

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
8 years ago

The poll does not show that one third of US Moslems believe that violence may be justified against those who insult their ideology or its pedophile “prophet”. It shows 29%. Ignoring round off error, I’d say that splits the difference between one third and one quarter. For sure, that is still an alarming percentage and should cause Americans to question whether we want to allow mass immigration of Moslems.

Some may consider it a small point, but I think it illustrates a tendency to exaggerate that works to undermine the credibility of this web site.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

Wow, a whole .04 off! Let’s call the math police!

Dusty Koellhoffer
Dusty Koellhoffer
8 years ago

There is no place for Islam in the civilized world.

You can no more reform Islam away from Mohammad than you can
reform Christianity away from Christ.
http://liberalsbackwardsthink.com/2015/05/26/reforming-islam-is-as-absurd-as-reforming-christianity/

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago

My question to you then becomes: why does Islam need to reform from Mohammed? And what PROOF do you have to back up what you attribute as the behavior of Muhammad? From my understanding of studying history, Islam civilized Europe and took it out of the Dark Ages through the Moors in Spain. The most harmonious and tolerant rule of Jerusalem was during Islamic rule as well, and Medina, “the city of the prophet” was home to Jews and Christians under Muhammed’s rule. No bias. Just facts.

Fred Smith
Fred Smith
8 years ago

Get off here and go play with your goats! TOTAL BS!

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Fred Smith

I don’t own goats. I’m an indigenous american, something I doubt even you can claim.

MuhammedBlowsGoat
MuhammedBlowsGoat
8 years ago

Dummy! no indigenous Americans the Indians came from Asia, then Murdered what people were here!

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago

You’re right genius! India is in Asia! Im sorry to break this to you, but Colombus lied. Native Americans are not “Indians” lol Native Americans were the first ones who migrated here. Hence NATIVE. In the world u describe, there’s no europe or Asia for that matter, since the first gene in the DNA strand starts in Africa. So in that case, hello my migrated African white brother lmao

Susan
Susan
8 years ago

With your line of thinking can we have the ME back which was stolen from many advanced civilizations many of whom were Christians and Jews. Also just so you don’t forget islam grew by the sword “submit or die” “leave and die”. No worries islam is not a religion but a political ideology similar to the nazis only 100 times worse. Islam like all evil ideologies will be destroyed. Currently it is imploding from within, muslim learning what this evil cult is about are leaving in droves.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Name ONE advanced Christian or Jew society. Just ONE. Rome and Greece were pagan fyi. Egyptian pyramids got their math from Imhotep in Ethiopia. Name ONE. Algebra came from the Islamic renaissance fyi

Steven
Steven
8 years ago

//******* Imhotep *******//
Interesting that you mentioned Imhotep–seeing that even in Egyptology they recognize that Imhotep wasn’t Egyptian.

Hmm…I wonder what historical character is more closely related to the accomplishments of Imhotep?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Steven

Imhotep was an Ethiopian. So you are correct genius! He wasn’t Egyptian lol

Steven
Steven
8 years ago

Umm…that’s not what I’ve read. I’ve not found any creditable information proving Imhotep to be Ethiopian.

Ohhhhh…you’re one of those revisionists that have been converting history to afro-centric dynastic system.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Steven

Nope. Go to any masonic lodge. You think he’s jet black for no reason? Egypt and Ethiopia were sisters. Lived harmoniously. Imhotep is the original builder. Hence why he is revered. I’m sure ud love for him to be a white man, but you can’t steal everything lol

Steven
Steven
8 years ago

//******* loose for him to be a white man *******//
NO! From my studies. Imhotep’s historicity is a better match to that of Joseph of the Bible. And of course, Egypt and Ethiopia are sisters from Ham’s son, Cush.

Mason’s!!! You are really referencing the Mason’s? Wow…just wow.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Steven

Yep. Qur’an encourages us to seek truth and use the Qur’an to filter out man’s changing of things. And yep. Stroll past the front of a lodge. See that jet black statue out front of even a red lodge, and know that that man was black man. Study egypt, and the jet black tribes come from Southern egypt near aswan, and the “blameless” Ethiopians. Just wow right?? Lol

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

Idiot, Greeks were using algebra before moe-ham-head was even born. The Pythagorean theorem, invented by the Greeks, is an algebraic equation.

MuhammedBlowsGoat
MuhammedBlowsGoat
8 years ago

Read up stupid you might learn something but I think people like you are a lost cause! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/13/clovis_not_first_says_paisley_caves_excrement/

joemama
joemama
8 years ago

Then I’m a Native American, too, because my ancestors migrated here. WTF?Your mind is swirling withso much ‘smart-ass’ that you are now suffering a severe case of cranial-rectal inversion, ‘Tinsleykhalilicon. And it is fatal if left untreated.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  joemama

What tribe are you? I’m black foot Cherokee, more than 50% too, not just claiming 1/10 of 1 percent to get part of that casino dough. If apart of a native tribe, then you are indigenous. Otherwise bro, you’re an immigrant. Did it feel good to say “cranial- rectal inversion”? Learn that in school today? Lol. Omg you guys are the WORST. Im done. Checking this page out today has truly shown me why it took this long for the confederate flag to come down. Stupid is as stupid does. Carry on folks. http://www.vocabulary.com/articles/chooseyourwords/emigrate-immigrate-migrate/

MuhammedBlowsGoat
MuhammedBlowsGoat
8 years ago

“indigenous american” just like a liberal, you “feel” like an “indigenous american” so that makes you one, jump out a plane without a parachute and make the world happy, TROLL!

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Fred Smith

I prefer Japanese Akitas lol

Dusty Koellhoffer
Dusty Koellhoffer
8 years ago

OMG! Are you serious? That is what you were taught? “Islam “civilized Europe?” The Moors enslaved the Spanish who spent six centuries overthrowing the tyrants. All you have learned is lies and you would learn the truth if you studied the life of Muhammad. The proof is in the Koran and Hadith.

http://liberalsbackwardsthink.com/2015/02/10/morality-and-ethics-of-the-prophet-mohammad-and-the-anti-christ-left/

(Debate: Honest people wishing to debate will post their remarks in the comments of the article. Dishonest people wishing to dissuade people from reading the truth will post in the comments of a link.)

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago

I study Qur’an and Hadith. ESPECIALLY using those those two sources, once again. What SPECIFIC behavior do you attribute to Prophet Muhammed that can be backed up by these sources? Or are you just regurgitating media bullshit?

Dusty Koellhoffer
Dusty Koellhoffer
8 years ago

Go to my article and read about it.

(Debate: Honest people wishing to debate will post their remarks in the comments of the article. Dishonest people wishing to dissuade people from reading the truth will post in the comments of a link.)

Green Loogy
Green Loogy
8 years ago

Tinsley, calm down, have a pulled pork sandwich and get real. Muhammad was a pedophile, Allah is a false God and you are an idiot

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Green Loogy

Another genius with his boatload of proof…smh You harm me none with your ignorant words. No thanks on the pork sandwich. Let it rot ur belly if u so choose. If u gonna call him one, make sure u include the church priests and rabbis who practice the Torah and rape infants under 3. Be fair at least lol. Aisha never claimed rape. Esteemed woman of Islam. Do church victims hold themselves in the same holy regard? Eh I think not. Now carry on. Go plop in front of the couch with them pork ribs and continue watching fox lmao

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Shwayz

Must I remind YOU about the Talmud’s Rabbis rights with females under 3, that they obviously had NO intention of marrying? Early marraige has been around since the beginning of time. In every culture around the world minus the new west. You all focus on Islam because you can’t bear the site of its growth. Might as well leave earth. By 2050 Islam will be #1. Deal with it. Lol

Shwayz
Shwayz
8 years ago

Okay, so in Israel you can bang a 3 year old. Let me just check the age of consent there. Ooh, not 3. BTW,what has this got to do with Jews anyway? Ahhh, the usual knee jerk reaction. Blame those Jews.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Shwayz

No blame. Facts. Jewish talmidic law, not Israeli. The larger point is how can someone focus specifically on one group, while others commit even worse, and not clearly show that you have a bias towards the group you criticize. Be a equal opportunity hater lol

Shwayz
Shwayz
8 years ago

Well lets see.
1-Isis pillaging and raping in the name of Islam. They are not doing it in the name of Jews or Christians.
2-Do, I really need to go on?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Shwayz

“In the name of Islam?” You watch too much media. Since you do tho, go read the Pentagon declassified report that states Isis was started by the west trying to overthrow Syria. An Islamic group would never name themselves after an Egyptian pagan diety. .duhhhhhhh

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago

That article was horrible. No sources provided. No mention of Quran verses, which are the ultimate authority. Made up language, such as the laws of muhammed, which do not exist, only Quran in true Islam. No mention how the people killed in Medina had committed TREASON, opening the city gates at night to let the enemy in, and that TREASON is punishable by death here in America even. And finally no mention how when he came back to Mecca in victory, he spared the ENTIRE city of people who tried to kill him, simply going instead to demolish the idols at Abraham’s house. Get facts right before writing long articles of nonsense. Use some scholarship!

Covadonga
Covadonga
8 years ago

>”when he came back to Mecca in victory, he spared the ENTIRE city of people who tried to kill him, simply going instead to demolish the idols at Abraham’s house.”

More B.S. He had a hit list of political enemies that were murdered when he entered Mecca.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Covadonga

Proof? Facts? Right. There is none. I bet you cheered when our army tracked down Osama, and any other enemy to our country. You’d approve of such yet condemn another? Hypocritical. On top of that, he spared everyone. Something even I bet YOU wouldn’t do, if someone had been trying to kill you for years, and u finally had the advantage. Think about it.

Covadonga
Covadonga
8 years ago

>”Proof? Facts? Right. There is none.”

“The apostle had instructed his commanders when they entered Mecca only to fight those who resisted them, except a small number who were to be killed even if they were found beneath the curtains of the Ka’ba….”

The Life of Muhammad: A Translation of Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rasul Allah by Alfred Guillaume,
Oxford University Press
Karachi, Pakistan

First published 1955
Reissued in Pakistan 1967
Twenty-fourth impression 2011
ISBN 978-0-19-636033-1
p. 550.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Covadonga

I stand corrected. Yeah a couple HAD to go. Read up on who they were. This isnt a fairy tale. Real people did real things. The city as a whole though was spared. Look at any ancient wars and tell me where such a mass forgiveness occured of thr enemy? I am not beyond correction btw. https://controversialislam.wordpress.com/enemies-killed-by-prophet-muhammad/

Covadonga
Covadonga
8 years ago

>”Yeah a couple…”

Some on the original list were eventually granted immunity, but the number who were killed was still more than “a couple”, according to the Sira.

>”…HAD to go.”

You make it sound like the ones on the list were some dreaded killers, rapists, slavers, or pedophiles, rather like the devout Muslims trying to reestablish the Caliphate in Syria and Iraq today.

Actually, the text of the Sira makes it clear that the common denominator among the targeted victims was that they had made jokes at Mo’s expense, or otherwise insulted him, or had left Mo’s “religion”.

Nothing I write about the Sira, the Qur’an, or other Islamic texts should be interpreted to mean that I think Islam began when, or in the manner in which, it claims to have originated.

I liken these stories on the origin of Islam more to the Arthurian legends in Britain, which are dated to roughly the same era, but which , in the Islamic case, were invented by military rulers to serve a morally perverted totalitarian political ideology.

Nemisis
Nemisis
8 years ago

“Quran verses, which are the ultimate authority” your quran is a book of lies, influenced by a demon in a cave. it is blasphemy to Christians…in Muhammad’s time allah was a lesser fertility god..still is..anyone who knows our 10 commandments knows, 1. you do not put other gods before the true god, 2 do not bow to false idols. 3 keep the Sabbath day holy….

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Nemisis

Allah is the the God of Jews and Christians. It means “the Divine One” in Arabic. Arab Jews and Christians of the time referred to God as such. Heck I could take you to a coptic christian church right now where they call god by Allah. In Hebrew it would be Eleh where Elohim is derived from.

Brian Miles
Brian Miles
8 years ago

Allah is no more the “God of Jews and Christians” than Hitler is. Islam references people from the Bible principally to do a hatchet job on Christ and reject the crucifixion (one of the best recorded events of that era). While there is an Abrahamic commonality in ancestry, Jesus’ message in the New Testament is in opposition to the bloody, misogynistic rants of the Islam cult leader who purportedly was given allah’s word “without error”

joker
joker
8 years ago

Tinsley are you deliberate a fool for the Muslims or are you just joking. Your understanding of Islam is as we understand an Alien planet. Please go to sleep and do not wake up. Most certainly you have never lived in a country dominated by Islam. Please have a try and don’t come back.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  joker

Funny you say that! Not only have I traveled overseas to places like Egypt and Saudi Arabia, i lived HERE all my life. And although not dominated by Islam, ummm how many unarmed black men have been killed THIS YEAR? Should I really go and reach the way most here do and say some they were christian cops, that it was Christianity and the Bible that told them to do it? I can for a fact say that both were used to justify slavery in THIS country. Not Islam. Amazing you just zero on Islam and put blinders on everything else

joker
joker
8 years ago

Tinsley with all due respect killing Black people has nothing to do with Christianity. The qu’ran looks down on Black people.
The only religion what really practice slavery according to their teaching is Islam, still today. Please take a cold shower and wake up. Islam has nothing to offer you and you know that. Perhaps it is cool to be a Muslim and to belong to a group, but Islam is not that group.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  joker

American Slavery = white christian terrorism. #fact. Provide proof of any color being beneath another in Quran. You wont. Did you know the first caller to prayer was Bilal? A jet black Ethiopian?Arabs are a different story. Bilal left mecca after the Prophet died.

joker
joker
8 years ago

Bilal was a slave!

Cate
Cate
8 years ago

Don’t feed the trolls. Disregard this “Tinsley” person who is not worth the time to respond.

rambler
rambler
8 years ago

Seems that you don’t know the actual history of Spain and the moors. islam did no such thing. No fact just your opinion.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  rambler

Everything from arched architecture and the math it involved, to things as simple a reminding folk to bathe on a regular basis. Islam did do such thing. What do YOU attribute to bringing Europe out of the Dark Ages then? Electricity? Lmao

rambler
rambler
8 years ago

Sorry…. the Romans had built arches long before islam was islam.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  rambler

I stand corrected. They resurrected what had long since been forgotten by Europe. Rome included. http://www.culturespain.com/2012/03/02/what-did-the-moors-do-for-us/

rambler
rambler
8 years ago

Sorry again. Roman structures pre-date what you have given as evidence. Now I will give credit to islam for forcing the european shippers to build better ships so as to avoid the attacks on trade along the Silk Road. islam seems to be good at theft and murder since islam has no 10 commandment equivalent.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  rambler

Roman structure predates of course. But where in Europe was it being rebuilt Mr genius? Same as pyramids. Knowledge gets lost. Hence why the dark ages began in the first place. The beauty of it all, is despite all of this ignorant hate being spread by all of you, Islam is the fastest growing faith in the world. And not ISIS islamist Mohammad ism bullshit the media has u all believing exists, but Al Islam, the faith practiced by Mohammed, exemplified in Medina. Continue to fan the flame. Ur air makes us grow stronger lol. I pray you all see the truth, cuz as far a battles go, none of u can kick my ass lol. Better to look to peace. Good day

rambler
rambler
8 years ago

Pray all you want. I don’t need to see what you pass off as truth.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  rambler

Ur right it’s not truth. I stand corrected. It’s reality. And u all are clearly dillusional. If I thought the way u all did, I would’ve demonized Christianity long ago for its use by racist white Americans who justified slavery and Jim crow through the bible. A good thing for Christian white folk it’s not seen that way eh?

Susan
Susan
8 years ago

You are so funny, islam was the slave trade until Christian countries stopped it. The first war American fought was against muslim slavers, barbary pirates. Islam slaughtered anywhere from 120 to 180 million Africans and to this day they still have 30+ million African slaves. Islam has no heart or soul evil to the to it’s core, mohammad, the most evil man ever to walk this earth. The Muslims castrated African males and marched the across the desert; 90% did not make it. The muslims used them as laborers and as eunuchs to guard the sex slaves, a lot of those females were kidnapped from Europe. If you want proof read the quran and the hadiths and check out IS who are following the quran and mohammad’s behavior to the letter.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Susan

THIS IS THE QURAN
Righteousness is not turning your faces towards the east or the west. Righteous are those who believe in God, the Last Day, the angels, the scripture, and the prophets; and they give the money, cheerfully, to the relatives, the orphans, the needy, the traveller, the beggars, and to free the slaves… [2:177] Muhammed himself freed Bilal the Ethiopian, who was the first caller to prayer. Not talking Arab bullshit or media disinformation. Just Quran. That is the only official source for true islam. If you choose not to study it, in its Arabic even, then you should avoid making comments that just really make you seem stupid smh

Steven
Steven
8 years ago

//******* Study only in the Arabic *******//
This statement is the most mind numbing ignorant proposition I’ve ever heard.

In it’s simplest rationality, what this statement says is that unless Arabic is your primary language, you should not read the Quran. Any ESL student should no better than to postulate such rubbish.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Steven

Considering English cannot accurately translate Arabic, it’s the only logical proposition. If you do not wish to put forth the effort, then avoid critique. That would be the wise thing to do good man

Steven
Steven
8 years ago

You don’t get it. Besides the whole Allah can’t spiritually inspire his adherents to properly translate from Arabic; you are saying that I would have to learn Arabic. Now think…take your time…

In other words, I would be taught Arabic by an Arabic teacher that is translating the language for me in English.

Your logic is telling me it would be impossible for me to learn Arabic because you can’t possibly translate the language correctly.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Steven

The quran literally means “That which is recited”. The verses take on a rhyming pattern of sorts, making it easier for memorization. Can you do this with the translation? In ANY language? Each letter in the Arabic language is a word. Each word is not a word, but rather a sentence or concept. It is also pictographic like all ancient languages. Rahim is translated as mercy. So is Rahman. Both come from the root word Rahma. Rahman is mercy u r unconscious of, like the fact that rain isn’t salt water. Rahim in conscious mercy. Reading a translation that just says “mercy”, can you tell whether it’s rahman or rahim? Also, is the verse you reading revealed in Mecca or Medina? Do you even know the difference? What was the context of the verse being revealed? Was treason just committed? Had most of the men been slaughtered before the verses regarding more than one wife? Do you hear how the verse is actually recited in Arabic? If you cannot answer these questions when attacking the book, you are coming from a position of ignorance. This is my point

joemama
joemama
8 years ago

I don’t need to read Mein Kampf to know it breeds evil. I can see that with my own two eyes, without any interpreter, even!

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  joemama

That’s like me saying I don’t need to read the Bible to tell that it breeds evil. I can look at how it was used in slavery and even today by kkk like groups, with my own two eyes, without King James’s version even. Do you hear how retarded that sounds?

Susan
Susan
8 years ago

The NT does not breed evil you liar. Unlike mohammad Jesus taught to love your enemies. Mohammad taught to kill the non-believers where ever you find them.

“Now, let us have a closer look at what the Koran says about the infidels:-

Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)

Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)

When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)

Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)

Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)

The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)

Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)

The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)

Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies
(22:19)

Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)

The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)

Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)

Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)

Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels (8:60)

The Qur’an certainly proclaims that when the time is appropriate, Muslims must use force to convert the unbelievers to Islam. For the non-Muslims, the alternative to this is to pay the humiliating protection money (Jizya tax) or be killed (by beheading, of course). A militarily dominant Islam, without doubt, precludes the peaceful co-existence with the unbelievers if the Muslims have to abide strictly by the unalterable stipulations of the Qur’an.

This is why we see very few “moderate” muslims coming out and speaking against the violence. There is so much overwhelming evidence stacked against them not able to be “moderate” because of the fundamental belief’s of Islam.”

A little challenge and maybe you could win $50,000. This challenge was put up by an ex-muslim in 2007. No islamic scholar has been able to refute him. Everything he says is out of the islamic books.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Susan

I agree it doesnt. Didn’t stop white christian terrorists from enslaving a group of people for centuries “in Jesus’ name” smh If I knew you honestly cared about actually finding out the meaning of these verses in Arabic, and their context, we could go over them line for line. But hey, some people hate just to hate. Right or wrong. I accept that.

Susan
Susan
8 years ago

So the muslim slave trade doesn’t bother you, muslim are still enslaving 30 + million Africans. Are muslims sending Doctors without borders to help those in need, no, those would be the Christians. Are muslims sending food and help to the starving, no, that would be the Christians. Someone once told me you can not reason with muslins they have been brainwashed and I stupidly tried again. The muslim Borg is of one mind pure evil. Done with you and your lying BS.

Shwayz
Shwayz
8 years ago

So let’s get this straight. An omnipotent, in fact omnieverything, all knowing entity, could only understand and speak Arabic? The creator of every language ever uttered, could only speak one. I speak more than one, and I am under no delusion that I am the creator.
This is the crux of your argument.
Ohcam’s razor, would postulate, that the author of the fairy tale could only speak Arabic.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Shwayz

Read my response below to Steven so I don’t have to retype. I answer that question.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

Didn’t you write that you also study the ahadith? But now you write “Just Quran”. So, which is it?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

I’m glad you asked! You’ve expressed a degree of intellect by being inquisitive. The Qur’an is its own hadith. In AL ISLAM there is no secondary books used as authority. The Qur’an is the ONLY authority.
Which Hadith, beside this, do they believe in? S. 7:185 Khalifa

These are GOD’s revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than GOD and His revelations do they believe? S. 45:6 Khalifa

Which Hadith, other than this, do they uphold? S. 77:50 Khalifa

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

Islamic countries are the only ones practicing slavery today — in the Sudan, in Mauritania and now ISIS. Simon Deng, an African Christian was enslaved by muslims in the 21st century.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Quran 9:91 The Arabs of the desert are the worst in Unbelief and hypocrisy, and most fitted to be in ignorance of the command which Allah hath sent down to His Messenger: But Allah is All-knowing, All-Wise.

Susan
Susan
8 years ago

You are so stupid. First of all islam is the fasted dying cult, not a religion, in the world. When muslims read the quran they leave, the intelligent ones anyway. There are millions upon millions of ex-muslims in the closet waiting for islam to be destroyed so they can safely leave.

http://chersonandmolschky.com/2014/04/28/islamophobic-muslims-leave-islam-reading-quran/

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Truth hurts eh? Even with all its faults, I’ll take CNN report over your link. Thanks but no thanks lol
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/02/living/pew-study-religion/

Steven
Steven
8 years ago

I agree with you Tinsley, Islam is a growing religion. But it’s not do to its truth or scriptural integrity. It’s because it’s a tyrannical ideology that feeds off of fear and intimidation. Not truth.

Plus, think of it this way. When Jesus was taken to the top of the mountains and showed all the kingdoms of the earth; who was offering those kingdoms and what ideology is starting to flourish?

Could it be that Islam is growing because the kingdoms that are developing are more Satan oriented and not God (of the Bible) oriented?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Steven

Islam means that you submit your FREE WILL to the Will of God. It is an oxymoron of the highest degree to think someone can be forced into Islam. Those that attempt to force anyone are not muslims. Hence why I say Al Islam (THE ISLAM) has the Qur’an alone as its law book. Forceful conversion is unislamic. Christians and Jews practiced freely under Prophet Muhammed’s rule in Medina. They were not forced to convert.

Steven
Steven
8 years ago

Qur’an 48:29 Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are severe against unbelievers, and merciful among themselves.

Qur’an 4:24 Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those (captives and slaves) whom your right hands possess.

Qur’an 5:33 The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned;

Qur’an 9:5 When the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive, and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Steven

Context is everything. Unbelievers were at war with him since he first declared one god. They made him flee to Medina. Unbelievers are not Christians or Jews. They are referred to numerous times as either Christians, Jews, or People of the Book. Next slavery was ARAB culture. Not Islamic. The Qur’an seeks to abolish it.
Never should a Believer kill a Believer; but (if it so happens) by mistake, (compensation is due): if one (so) kills a Believer, it is ordained that he should free a believing slave, and pay compensation to the deceased’s family . . . For those who find this beyond their means, (is prescribed) a fast for two months running: by way of repentance to Allah. (4:92)

Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths, but will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation, feed ten indigent persons . . . or clothe them; or give a slave his freedom. If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. (5:89)

Alms are for the poor and the needy, and those employed to administer the (funds); . . . for those in bondage and in debt . . . (9:60)

Lastly, the idolators of Mecca were his self declared enemy, and even in that, you still have in the verse you put up, an olive branch that was a doorway for peace not war.
Anything else??

dfw63
dfw63
8 years ago

Taqiyya.
Anything else?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  dfw63

If you seek the truth, read this link http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=db7_1408311479

dfw63
dfw63
8 years ago

I fought the truth for years, when I finally accepted it, my life changed.
I pray that you find redemption in Jesus too, because their is no redemption offered in islam.

I read your link and in return I offer you to read my link: http://biblehub.com/john/3-16.htm

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  dfw63

Since Allah says in the Quran that He is the original author of all the holy books, Islam is believe it or not the only faith that says you will be judged by the book you follow. Christianity- Christmas of bust. Judaism – Jew or a gentile. Islam? Muslim or muhmin(believer). Muhmin is mentioned for heaven, not muslim, and you don’t have to be a muslim to be a muhmin. “To you be your way, and to me be mine”. The diff is you think I’ll be lost following mine, where as I believe you can still be guided if you follow yours correctly. Big difference.

dfw63
dfw63
8 years ago

Fair enough, time will tell, but during the interim, you won’t have to worry about Christians chopping heads off, mutilating women or forcing you to pay a jizyah type tax as a consequence of not embracing allah. The same cannot be said for islam.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  dfw63

Yeah but I dont have to worry about white supremacist groups burning crosses and attempting to start race wars by shooting up black churches. The same cannot be said for Christianity. Do you see how foolish it is to group a WHOLE people. If I did that, EVERY white person who claimed christianity would be a terrorist. Only a fool thinks that. Be not foolish

dfw63
dfw63
8 years ago

Burning crosses? Now you’re reaching. And who said that animal was Christian?

Take a look at the muslim demonstrators advocating in the street of host countries, they scream for death to those who insult the prophet.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  dfw63

KKK still exist hombre. Most white supremacist groups are christian based. He clearly wanted to be a white supremacist. The family has a pastor. A christian family. I agree its a reach. My point on flipping the tables was to show how much these people reach, wanting to attribute everything a supposed muslim does to ISLAM AND Quran, but wont do the same Christianity and the Bible. ESPECIALLY IF YOU THROW IN AMERICAN SLAVERY. Those protestors are are puppets on a string. Easily distracted by a freakin cartoon. Can’t push my buttons that easy. I simply don’t read it, and pray the cartoonist gets a better understanding. Easy.

dfw63
dfw63
8 years ago

Burning crosses? You’re reaching now.
Let’s accept that a few erstwhile Christians have behaved like animals and deserve to die for it.
How many muslims advocate violent jihad against non-muslim peoples and countries? Just look at the protestors in any “death to those who insult the prophet” parade in London or Paris. Can we say between 10 and 25% of islam? At a minimum that’s 150 MILLION muslims openly advocating violence.
Do you notice what all of the following have in common? They acted on what they learned in their mosque.

The Garland TX attackers were muslims
The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim

The Beltway Snipers were Muslims

The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim

The underwear Bomber was a Muslim

The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims

The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims

The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims

The London Subway Bombers were Muslims

The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims

The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims

The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims

The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims

The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims

The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims

The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Musiims

The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims

The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims

The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims

The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims

The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims

The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims

The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims

The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims

The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims

The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims’

One last item, islam is not a religion, it’s a government system.
I wouldn’t sweat the burning crosses.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  dfw63

A few? EVERY southern white family was involved in slavery. Their descendants who so love “heritage” exist today, and even still hold land and money resources past down from those generations. Add British Empire to the mix, working out of the Church of England, and every colony from Africa to Hong Kong felt the sting of white terrorist christianity. Not reaching any more than you are my friend. It would take muslims centuries worth of attacks to equal the blood shed by white christianity here in America

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

And everyone is now feeling the sting of izlamic imperialism — all across the world.

dfw63
dfw63
8 years ago

The difference is that I’m talking about the actions of people in the present day.
You’re reaching back hundreds of years to provide debatable support for your point.
Who is most likely to end your life by terror?
A white terrorist Christian, or a muslim of any race?

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago

Brown people enslaving Black people TODAY in Sudan, Mauritania and Saudi Arabia.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago

You are correct. UnIslamic in the extreme. Quran 9:91 The Arabs of the desert are the worst in Unbelief and hypocrisy, and most fitted to be in ignorance of the command which Allah hath sent down to His Messenger: But Allah is All-knowing, All-Wise.”

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  dfw63

Yeah i don’t sweat the burning crosses as much as the ones who go shoot up churches, and wear badges who kill unarmed Americans daily. Much more concerned about that I agree. That white cop will be in church on Sunday. White christian terrorism at its finest. Off your logic at least.

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago

Who sweats over church burnings in Pakistan, Egypt.

No church burnings in apartheid Saudi Arabia because…..?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago

Right is Right. Wrong is Wrong. No division between righteous people, no matter their faith.
Quran 22: 40 [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right – only because they say, “Our Lord is Allah.” And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is much mentioned. And Allah will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might.

dfw63
dfw63
8 years ago

I accept your refusal to answer my questions about the hundreds of millions of muslims who advocate violence against mankind, as capitulation.
Entertaining exchange, I do truly hope you “get saved”.

Susan
Susan
8 years ago

CNN is a propaganda tool. They are the last source you should go to. The main stream media has been ordered not to tell the truth about islam. Think SA money and George Soros.

Susan
Susan
8 years ago

Everything that islam claimed was stolen from the more advanced civilizations they brutally conquered. Isam has brought nothing into the world but death and destruction. I know lying is part of islam but I do not like or listen to liars. Grow up and become a man and learn to tell the truth.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Smh. U watch too much fox news lol. Is Mecca Jersualam? Is the bible the Qur’an? Do we call Jesus the son or a prophet? Now funny enough, u make that claim, yet hindu, egyptian mythologies spoke of a virgin mother long before Mary. Ummm Horas and Buddha? Ever heard of them. If not. Read up. No lies needed. The truth fits just fine. 🙂

Steven
Steven
8 years ago

//******* Smh… *******//

I have no idea how your point references “Susan’s” argument. You seemed to touch on Zeitgeist’s long past refuted virgin claims. Even Islam believes that Jesus was born from a virgin. Are you now saying that your own religion is wrong or Jesus’ birth is derived from a mythological character? What is your actual point here because you did nothing to refute Susan’s point which is correct. Islam never contributed anything to the sciences. They just conquered and claimed them for themselves.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Steven

Crusaders brought death and destruction. Didn’t they even destroy Solomons temple? (Oops I DID say that). If you would open Qur’an, you would find that rain coming from wind, the existence of outer space, barriers between salt and fresh water, difference between moonlight and sunlight, DNA even, and so on, where mentioned in it, long before modern science discovered such. My point was how can you claim we stole when your theology itself is borrowed? They are all apart of ONE LARGE TRUTH. Virgin Mary even signifies Sirius as it gives birth to “sun” stars. When she ejects a star, it is an exact match for a tube ejecting an embryo. “So above so below”. All apart of one larger truth. Qur’an simply had to correct what men, like King James, did to alter the Books. You just can’t admit my God and you God are one in the same. I get it.

Steven
Steven
8 years ago

//******* Crusaders *******//

The crusades were a limited campaign fomented by the numerous attacks by Muslims throughout the Middle East and southern regions of what is now known as Europe.

//******* Didn’t they even destroy Solomons temple? *******//

Umm…no. The crusaders destroyed the Temple? Where did you get that piece of non-history?

//******* THE REST OF YOUR POST *******//

You have to understand, I can keep going on all your points, but that’s the problem. You are overwhelming with your claims. I don’t have that much free time to debate your inaccuracies and accusations. One or two points, yes.

Shwayz
Shwayz
8 years ago

How did you give Moses the book, when he lived thousands of years before Islam existed?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Shwayz

Because my God is the God of Abraham/Ibrahim. The Father of Isaac and Ismail. Hard to accept I know, but that’s what we believe. And since our God is the God of Abraham, Moses spoke to that SAME God, just as every other prophet did. What drives you crazy I know oh Yahud, is that that SAME God, revealed the Qur’an to correct what man did to those previous books, or worse yet in the case of the Rabbi, chose to hide. But yeah, that’s how Allah chose Gabriel (hence WE) to tell us this verse. All the same source.

Shwayz
Shwayz
8 years ago

Oh, so you are actually Jewish. Mazeltov.
By the way, how can you prove the Koran is correct, and the others are not? D

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Shwayz

Abraham wasn’t Jewish. Sorry. Muhammed ibn……Ismail tho. Direct descendent. No need to go through the house of Isaac.

Shwayz
Shwayz
8 years ago

You did not answer the question. Prove that the other books were transcribed incorrectly. You said it, so prove it.
You cannot. You cannot prove the basis of your argument, so what credibility do you have?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Shwayz

https://youtu.be/crkq8HVvdm8
Watch if you dare lol. Man started out as French scientist who wanted to disprove the holy books through science. Did so with every single one of them, except the Qur’an. 🙂

joker
joker
8 years ago

Sorry Tinsley Isaac was the chosen one and not Ismail. Ismail would be the producer of the anti thing. Positive and negative, matter and anti-matter. Please do not fool people that we are all one because that ain’t true. Christianity and Judaism has as much to do with Islam as light with darkness. Just a figure of speech!

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  joker

Had u not made that bomb comment, I might have proven you wrong with your very book. Since you have shown yourself to be a fool, simply carry on, until you hear that knock one day from them alphabet boys.

joker
joker
8 years ago

Well in that sense I feel honoured that a Muslim calls me a fool. Thank God I am not a Muslim and never will be. I rather die.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Quran 2:42
And do not mix the truth with falsehood or conceal the truth while you know [it].

Shwayz
Shwayz
8 years ago

If you look at most Islamic countries, it seems they have reverted back to the dark ages. As an atheist, I believe all religion to be as real as Santa Claus. There are inconsistencies in all texts that are glaringly obvious.
However, in the current age, Islam has become a religion of hate, intimidation and terrorism. It is the worst of a bad bunch. Just look at Isis. Christopher Hitchens got it right when he said religion poisoned everything.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago
Reply to  Shwayz

“religion poisoned everything”. How has Buddhism poisoned anything again? How has Judaism poisoned anything lately again? For crissakes, atheists are among the largest mass murderers of all time and atheist Communist states among the most tyrannical.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Before I say something against Judaism, let me first ask you this, what is the difference in your mind between. Judaism and Zionism?

joker
joker
8 years ago

Tinsley I believe you are a troll. But be honest have you been drinking lately. The old raki and so. Please give up on Islam because you have no clue. You have never lived amongst them like I did. Don’t be a fool to yourself..

Cate
Cate
8 years ago
Reply to  rambler

Don’t feed the trolls. Disregard this “Tinsley” person who is not worth anyone’s time.

rambler
rambler
8 years ago
Reply to  Cate

Yeah… a thread specific troll. They hit this site from time to time with the same lame argument. Some times I like to mess with them.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Cate

A brilliant intelligent argument you make. The facts you use are incredible

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  rambler
rambler
rambler
8 years ago

Oh gee…. what was missing there? Might it be the reason that the moors were expelled? When the “benefits” of having a group of people out weigh the risks of keeping them, it then becomes bye-bye!

Bodart
Bodart
8 years ago
Reply to  rambler

I agree, this Tinsley is a deluded Muslim.
He wouldn’t understand truth if it hit him in the face, he’s so stupid he probably thinks that Muslims discovered the moon. He needs to crawl back in pedophile mohammad’s cave near Mecca.

rambler
rambler
8 years ago
Reply to  Bodart

He isn’t the first one to post to me to spew about islamic stuff. There is this thought that infidels fell off the turnip truck and know nothing about islam or history and so we need to be set straight about what is and isn’t acceptable. I believe that most muslims don’t know what their religion is or what it teaches. They know what they are told to believe and that’s it. They aren’t allowed to question or challenge the religion either. What islam really is will become very clear as things get more violent in the middle east.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  rambler

If muslims questioned or challenged it, there wouldn’t even be such a thing a “shariah”. The ignorance of Islam is the harm. You make it seen as if the more the person learns the more violent they become. A person would never strap a bomb if they truly understood Al Islam

rambler
rambler
8 years ago

The more I learn about islam, the more i want no part of it.

Mxpctlk
Mxpctlk
8 years ago
Reply to  Bodart

I pray for the enlightenment and salvation of misguided, deluded muz like Tinsley. They have been deceived and led astray by the false prophet.

The best lies are wrapped around kernals of truth and islam is wrapped around teachings of Judaism and Christianity. Mohammed was a murderer, a thief, a liar and a pedophile. Islam is the work of the devil.

All must all work to awaken the ignorant and be resolved to mercilessly crush islam until it is removed from earth.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Mxpctlk

Better do so before 2050. Apparently by then islam will be the majority religion in the world. We have a similar goal though to a degree. I just don’t want to see any ol islam be the majority. Some of them might be terrorists trying to bomb a train my mom rides on. I want to see AL Islam be that majority. Luckily for you, Al Islam doesn’t wish to “mercilessly crush you until you are removed from earth” (In my Vader voice)

joker
joker
8 years ago

Tinsley I hope before the year 2050 the whole of the Islamic world is nuked away. Finally peace on earth.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  joker

Thank Allah thats beyond your power then eh? Wait on it…

Mxpctlk
Mxpctlk
8 years ago

Islam is on a collision path with extinction.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Bodart

I was born in California ?

Tatonka
Tatonka
8 years ago

It is better for a fool to remain silent and be thought a fool then to speak out and remove all doubt

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Tatonka

Then I see your wisdom in remaining silent on any facts, as they would clearly silence any argument you would have. Smart man

Tatonka
Tatonka
8 years ago

” smart man”
I can’t say the same of you.
It is not what you think you know that gets you in trouble, it is what you know for SURE and ain’t so that does

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Tatonka

“So above so below” “never send a soldier to do a mission he cant complete” lol if you want to trade wise quotes we’d be here forever. If u want to discuss the facts of the topic, do so. If not, wtf are you here for? To show us how many quotes u’ve memorized. Carry on down the road homie.

joker
joker
8 years ago

Tinsley do you not realize how foolish you are? You have no clue about Muslims. You might be a convert but really you do not know them. Ha ha ha and I do.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  joker

Born into it. No conversion

joker
joker
8 years ago

Well in that case I feel pity on you. Apparently living in the US did not make you any wiser. But forget making the US Islamic because the Muslims will find out the very hard way.

MuhammedBlowsGoat
MuhammedBlowsGoat
8 years ago

Only a sick mind up votes himself,obviously a lib troll, get help its out there!

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago

No I’m actually a conservative. This “liberal” false presentation of Islam is what’s “sick”. Now troll on down the road to another comment lol

Green Loogy
Green Loogy
8 years ago

I can smell the stink of a Liberal from here….

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Green Loogy

Nah I’m actually a true blue good ol American. I love my constitution and my right to carry a gun. Truly the mark of a dummy one who simply calls someone a name instead of presenting facts. Will that kiddy brain, u should’ve just called me a little stinky pee pee boy like as if we were in pre k. Feel better now?

Green Loogy
Green Loogy
8 years ago

Lol you are not fooling anyone but yourself

Gruber Drone Siren
Gruber Drone Siren
8 years ago

=| – I smell Commiecore Alpha

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago

My name is Khalil homie. U can call me by my name. I ain’t scared lol

Steven
Steven
8 years ago

Of course you’re not; you’re behind a computer screen. What’s there to be afraid of?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Steven

You could meet me face to face if you like, I PROMISE you can’t make me flinch. I’d bet a fat man you wouldn’t even speak to me for fear of swallowing some teeth. Muslims only fear displeasing the Creator because of all the good The Creator does for us. Any other human, such as yourself, is lightwork

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

Where do you want to meet up?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Anywhere you so choose homie. I stay in nyc and cali. I’d be pleased to meet you

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

What city?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Come to brooklyn. My mosque is in Bed Stuy. You’re welcome to come

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

Can I bring some friends?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Of course you can! The more you bring the merrier. I want as many to hear truth as possible. Come on some bullsh!t tho, and well…u already know right?

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

Thank u.

DrZin
DrZin
8 years ago

A mosque is not even worth the arc of my bladder’s relief.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  DrZin

Then you should stay away. Relief of your bladder within your pant leg is better. Drink extra water beforehand even. The mosque is actually worth a few million bucks. We feed the poor, get the drugs off our corners and have block parties with the church across the street. Extremist eh? Lol oh wait lemme guess Taqiyya? Lol. Be serious

joker
joker
8 years ago

Nice we can blow it up!

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  joker

Wow. Good thing your name is the Joker. Otherwise,WHO SOUNDS LIKE THE TERRORIST ☝??. Be careful with your jokes though, the wrong kind bring visits from Feds you feel me?

joker
joker
8 years ago

Tinsley I am afraid this is not a joke. The backlash is coming against the Muslims and it is all their own fault. Just go to the mosque and pray and keep your Muslim mouth shut.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  joker

Well I guess convo with you is done. Reported you are. You scare me not, or anyone for that matter. You’re a joker. Lol. But there definitely comes a time where even free speech becomes harmful, and this is that line. Imagine if I had said the same about your holy house? You prove yourself to be worse than your supposed enemy. For that reason, you have lost.

joker
joker
8 years ago

As a Muslim you do not believe in free speech. All over the Islamic world non Muslims are getting harassed or worse. Tinsley now you are on very thin ice on this one and you cannot win because all the prove is out there that Muslims do not believe in free speech. A Muslim can go to their mosque and pray that is fine further they should not make any demands in a non Muslim society. Simple.

Steven
Steven
8 years ago

So…let me get this straight: You are Muslim and professing the peace and love of your religion, but on the other hand you are threating me with a loss of teeth (whether or not you have the actual ability–you are behind a computer screen with no image). Sounds just like Islam. Spouting peace and love with your right hand and cutting off peoples heads with the left.

Yeah! No contradictions there.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Steven

Heaven and Hell my friend. The ultimate contradiction eh? Punishment or reward. Btw fyi, the African American Muslim is a different guy. Just know that. Not that Farrakhan bs either. I don’t follow arabs, or militants, and I love my country. I also know racism. All of you sound just like racist white folk in the 50s talking about mixing of the races in Mississippi. I honestly see no real difference, especially since the culprit more often than not, is the same face it was back then.

Dusty Koellhoffer
Dusty Koellhoffer
8 years ago

No one is threatening you. You are just revealing your ignorance.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago

When someone suggests that I’d be in fear of speaking freely in person, that i only am free of fear behind a screen, they clearly are insenuating that there would be a reason why I’d have fear in person. I definitely state that wouldnt happen EVER. Rather the opposite would occur for someone with that intent

Steven
Steven
8 years ago

//******* When someone suggests *******//

My suggestion is: why even mention anything to do with being afraid? You’re behind a screen.

//******* Rather the opposite *******//

Which tells me you’re prideful, arrogant and full of yourself.

Are these the qualities that Islam establishes. If so, the more reason to run from this religion.

Jesus spoke of being without pride, loving, kind and slow to anger.

Which God has the better mannerisms?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Steven

When someone calls you out of your name, it’s only right to address it. Islam is perfect. Muslims are humans, therefore not perfect. If you meant nothing offensive by it then apologies. As a human though I felt the need to emphasis there was no reservations on this side. The attributes you ascribe to me ehhh not really. Human tho for sure

joker
joker
8 years ago

Tinsley in case you believe Islam is perfect then we have already a problem. Islam is far from perfect and by studying Islam you will see how all is not perfect. Please do not say Christians and Jews are having the same God as Muslims because that is utter false. Allah is derived from one of the three gods worshipped then in Mecca. A pegan god,so to speak.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  joker

Arabic and Hebrew are cousins, sons of Aramaic. If you desire truth read. If you just like to spew unintelligent non fact based points, then carry on. Easy to ignore. http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_of_G-d/Elohim/elohim.html

Cate
Cate
8 years ago

Well well. Such threats. Typical muslim. You are disgusting, inbred.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Cate

Threats? Or a fact? Did I say I’d do it, or did I say he wouldn’t out of fear I would? Big difference. But I know exaggerations and misquotes are typical amoung people who have no real factual base to stand on. Where did inbred come from? Were your parents cousins or something? Lol

DrZin
DrZin
8 years ago

Anybody could write the koran. How unimpressive. Here, I’ll even add to it right now:

“And when you meet an infidel on the street heading from market, follow the filth and find out where he lives. Then in the morning you plant yourself behind his foundation shrubs and attack him as he goes to his driveway, saith allah, because I am allah and I hate foundation shrubs, the filth of the infidels.”

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  DrZin

If you could make that rhyme in Arabic, apply to a real event that happened 1400 years ago, that could be reapplied through time through today and even tomorrow and still be relevant, throw in some yet to be revealed scientific fact, and you may have something. Otherwise, nahhhh. Just sounds like an idiot babbling away. Was that the best you had? Lol #weak

DrZin
DrZin
8 years ago

It is indeed idiocy, which is why I proposed it to be part of the koran: the idiotic rantings of a madman.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  DrZin

You accomplished NONE of those things, while the Qur’an accomplished them all. So you did not succeed in making a verse. Try again if you like. Have to make it rhyme in Arabic though, or don’t waste your time

joker
joker
8 years ago

Tinsley you are wasting your time here. Please move on to an ISIS related site. Islam is not your field what I have read. You do not know Muslims and their behaviour, I dare say.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  joker

I am muslim. I think I know myself. Lol you’re a real genius eh?

joker
joker
8 years ago

Tinsley you may call yourself a Muslim, fine. But believe me, you do not know Muslims. Probably you have never mingled amongst them in a dominated Muslim society like I did (Lebanon). You cannot trust the Muslim. You mightbe a convert I know all by the book. If you are happy with that I am pleased for you but do not pester other non-Muslim people with it.

Cate
Cate
8 years ago
Reply to  joker

I’m with you, joker. I’ve spent considerable time in the Middle East, and I KNOW that culture well. I completely agree – you cannot trust the Muslim.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Cate

Correction. You may very well know middle eastern culture, but the culture of Al Islam isn’t practiced well at all in the middle east. So how can you know it?

joker
joker
8 years ago

Tinsley Islam is not practice very well in any corner of the world because there is something very wrong with the teaching. There is no beginning and there is no end. Take ramadan. Muslims in Northern Europe have not the same ramadan as Muslims in the Middle East. But Muhammed had of course no clue about Northern Europe then. It is all very floored.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  joker

I’ve mingled with arabs, pakis, indians, whites, chinese, Spanish, african, etc. All of us pray the same. Love our pizza and basketball. Good ol USA. Where you can practice Al Islam without even the tyranny of a so called “Islamic government”that terrorist media bs. Now do you understand why we’d die to protect THIS land before another?

Shwayz
Shwayz
8 years ago

So did Mo bang a nine year old girl? Just want to check this fact?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Shwayz

Nope. He married one though. Didn’t approach her til years later. And she defended his honor til her death. She Was 64 Years old when she died. Funny how every critique looks at the 9yr old and not the whole 64 years of life. That tree beared great fruit. No way around it. “Mother of the Faithful”

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Steven

After reading this again, I assumed you were talking sideways intending to insult. Hence my response. Reply deleted for this. Apologies again.

DrZin
DrZin
8 years ago

Wrong. The Renaissance civilized Europe.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  DrZin

And who do you think sparked the renaissance genius? Ill let Euro royalty tell you how lol http://www.twf.org/Library/Renaissance.html

DrZin
DrZin
8 years ago

I take back what I said. Europe wasn’t uncivilized. If Europe was uncivilized then what do you make of, say, Iran, today. Europe was just a lot meaner then. Please, take a course in critical thinking, expand your imagination. No intelligent person is going to believe the koran. Mohammmed was a deranged ashwhole, deceived by satan. Islam is from satan, period. That is why satanists do not oppose it. You never hear of satanists attacking islam because islam is already on their side.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  DrZin

That was the most intelligent answer you could come up with in response to that link? Smh. Carry on.

Steve Brown
Steve Brown
8 years ago

Sharia Law has and will always be the greatest destructive human evolutionary force to have ever existed on earth. No matter how eloquently the promulgators of Sharia Law deviously portray Sharia Law as a ; Loving, peaceful, benevolent, and spiritual hallmark of Gods everlasting glorious design for humanity, the reality is that Sharia Law is the epitome of evil and wickedness. Nothing can change the reality that Sharia Law is a satanically inspired doctrine which inspires; death, human carnage and the abomination of all that is good and pure in the heart of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Then again, I do believe in freedom of religion, just as I do, freedom of speech. However this is not the case with Sharia. Law.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Renaissance_figures

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

Allah is the “best of deceivers” but you aren’t.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

#Corny

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago

#Korany

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago

#EvenCornier

joker
joker
8 years ago

Tinsley go back to sleep please. Your understanding of Islam is like my understanding of nuclear science, meaning nothing.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  joker

I was raised in it, know the Arabic alphabet, and made pilgrimage to Hajj. Only a fool thinks he know much. I’ll just say I know enough to know I’m on the path that is best for me, and that it allows for unlimited growth potential. So I’m pleased with my decision to stay the course lol

joker
joker
8 years ago

I am happy for you but do not pester other people with it. And I doubt somebody was raised in it with a Western name.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  joker

First name is Khalil. Nice to meet you. We are allowed to keep our names you know? Our culture, clothes, language etc? Your understand of Islam needs to grow amigo. We don’t just become an instant Arab. The Qur’an and it’s Arabic text is the only real connection to those people. The Prophet was meant for all people, not just Arabs

joker
joker
8 years ago

Your adopted name is Khalil. Arabic is not the real connection because the majority of Muslims in the world don’t speak or read Arabic. Muhammed was not meant for all people he was meant for the Arabs. And it should have stayed like that.

Cate
Cate
8 years ago

I couldn’t agree with you more!

guest
guest
8 years ago

And what proportion of Muslim men are pedophiles who faithfully follow the example of their ‘prophet’? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3137441/New-police-probe-child-sex-attacks-Rotherham-identified-300-abuse-suspects-far.html

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  guest

Sick people everywhere. Are we really gonna act like the Catholic Church scandal didn’t happen?? The Talmud allows for Rabbis to have intercourse and not break the virginity if under the age of 3. What say you about those? Especially since what I spoke of involves the LEADERSHIP, not even misguided followers, does that mean Christianity and Judaism promote pedophilia? Of course not genius!

guest
guest
8 years ago

The population of Rotherham is 257,280, of which 3.7% are Muslim, that is 9500 in total. http://www.rotherhamccg.nhs.uk/Downloads/Publications/Equality%20and%20Diversity/2011_CENSUS_ROTHERHAM.pdf

If one in five of these is an adult male (probably an overestimate knowing how muslims breed) that gives 1900 .

Of these 1900 adult Muslim males, at least 300 are predatory pedophiles. That gives a rate of 16%, about four or five times the rate for Catholic priests. No wonder most American parents don’t want a mosque in their neighborhood.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  guest

So off of your logic, I should go to the southern US states, where the Confederate flag JUST came down at, and poll them about how they feel towards black people, then generalize the whole country’s white population off the polling. Yeah…Hella smart. Compare how many folk were harmed by those 300, vrs how many were harmed in those schools and churches across the WORLD, AND it’s not even close. Lastly NONE of this occurred in a mosque, whereas MOST of the offenses happened IN the church. Still want keep comparing? This is as ridiculous a defense of wrong as I’ve seen in quite some time. Congrats

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

“most of the offenses happened in the church”. Please prove that statement.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Dude seriously. Wiki couldve showed you that. Not even worth it to pull up old news clips. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases

IslamIsFascism
IslamIsFascism
8 years ago

Seriously, Bacha Bazi boys, where molesting young boys is all nice and izlamically legal.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  IslamIsFascism

The only way it could be Islamically legal is if the Qur’an is used as the Judge. If not, it’s culture. Disgusting culture. Just like the how the Romans and Greeks did with their boys. It’s all disgusting

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

Why don’t you go tell the Ayatollah that? Or the Taliban?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Allah will deal with them accordingly, just as He will with the rest. Judgment Day will escape no one. In the mean time, I focus on myself. I am apart of the whole. I change the value of myself, I change the value of the whole by default. You should work on doing the same.

Susan
Susan
8 years ago

Child rape not condoned by any group except islam. If mohammad can rape children then muslim males, no such thing as a muslim man, assume they can as well.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Show your proof of Muhammed raping anyone. He married his best friend’s daughter, with his permission. The standard upstanding good practice in ALL Arab society, regardless of religion, was for them to be married young, come live with the larger family, and be approached much later on. And on top of that Aisha became “the mother of the faith”, one of the highest regarded figures in Islam. Sound like a rape victim? Nope! And she never claimed such either. Even here in America the farmer’s daughter was married off crazy young. Do I need to bring up Jerry Lewis? Lol

Susan
Susan
8 years ago

Jerry Lee Lewis was considered a pervert. Aisha was married to an old man. So you think she went to her father and said Daddy I am in love I want to marry this 50 year? Mohammad played with Aisha sexually, when she was a baby of six, as is allowed in islam. There are imams on YouTube explaining how it is okay to thigh babies. Mohammad bragged to his buddies how much fun it is to have a little girl to play with. Well, Aisha’s hair fell out so she had to move back to her family home. When she was playing on the swings with her little girlfriends(children) she was taken to mohammad to be raped. Nine year olds do not consent to sex you fool. Aisha did as she was told how could she know how evil this was. So this so called prophet did not know this was wrong, did allah not tell him raping little children is wrong? For the record mohammad, your evil sex pervert, had 40 sex slaves and raped every one of them, many he raped the same night he killed their fathers and husbands. This is not a man of god but a sick f**k creating a so called religion to justify his evil. Mohammad did not consider females as independent human beings but the property of men. He referred to females as domestic animals and said that husbands are allowed to beat their disobedient wive(s). Guess they to are his slaves. Marriage should between a man and women in love not a freaking haram. Why do you think muslim females have to cover themselves, because they are considered sex objects and if they get raped they are stoned to death for adultery because it was their fault for being raped. How the hell can you defend this crap? Do you want to know the hell on earth the sex slaves in Islamic State are going through, most try to kill themselves they don’t understand that because they are infidels allah is okay with this. After all mohammad did it.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Susan

A youtube video lmao!!! Fyi I didn’t even waste my time reading that hot air. Provide PROOF. You’d think that if Aisha was raped or molested, she would’ve said something yeah? She lived for a lonnnnng time after his death. Rather than that, she became the upmost authority on his life. That’s like me saying someone raped you and you became the preserver of your rapist’ legacy. Do you hear how retarded that sounds?

Susan
Susan
8 years ago

You are a idiot no nine year old consents to sex and no man would have sex with a child. So that alone proves that mohammad is not a prophet.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Susan

He had other wives. No need to approach her before maturity. Once again, even though I can argue her age from many sources, my point you conveniently ignore is she lived a long life. If you were raped at 9 would you not recall such. How come it’s never mentioned by her? Why I stead is hmshe called

Susan
Susan
8 years ago

Custom perhaps, right no. How would Aisha know that her having a 54 year old man invade her was wrong. She excepted it as her due in this islamic culture. You however missed my point, a man of God would know this was wrong, hence mohammad not from God. Now all over many islamic countries this is condoned because mohammad did it. She was eighteen when she died and yes like you she was brainwashed to believe all this evil was from God.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Susan

She was not 18 when she died. She was in her 20s when HE died. And she didn’t stay 9 her whole life. And once again, it wasn’t Islamic culture , it was ARAB culture, which included Arab CHIRSTIANS, JEWS, AND PAGANS. Funny how you selectively single out the muslims in this. So she was brainwashed her whole life? Gotcha. Based on your logic, I forgive you. You been brainwashed by evil white Christian terrorists who enslaved a whole people to believe Islam was bad because the slaves came from muslim countries. Not your fault. Just like Aisha. Smh. Carry on. Can’t make the blind see. Only a fool keeps trying. I’m done trying

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

Um, Christians never practiced polygamy, unless you count Mormons.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

“Jerry Lewis”? Huh? The Jewish comedian/director/actor who made such classic films as the Bell Boy? What does he have to do w/anything?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Ummmm…he married his 13 yr old COUSIN. I love it! Do you see how you regard someone even Susan below regards as a perve? At least Aisha wasn’t blood lmao

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago

Tell us how “marrying” a 9 year old little girl isn’t rape.

Maybe 9yo temptress Aiesha “came on” to moohammed?

That’s what every rapist says. Their victim asked for it.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago

I see you do no research. If seeking with an honest heart, I shall tell you. Aisha is the daughter of Abu Bakr. You can look him up. He was very wealthy and highly respected. He was also the best friend of the Prophet, and one of the first 5 converts. She was married to him at 9, some accounts say 14 even with HER FATHER’S PERMISSION, and he did not approach her until years later, some say 14 others say 18. She lived into her sixties, and was considered to be the upmost authority on his practices, as she is called “the mother of the faith”. He sought her hand in marraige, as was the custom of every Arab Christian, Jew, and Pagan did at that time, when they wanted to be considered HONORABLE. Simple

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

Musswein legally molest little boys and girls in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iranistan right now, in the 21st century.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Show your proof. And show were it is done with the backing of Quran. I provided the Talmud when speaking of Rabbis

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

I agree this is an abomination. Not Islam. That’s culture not faith. No backing in Quran for such behavior. Just like no real backing in the bible to have justified American Slavery. Thanks for the links

Dusty Koellhoffer
Dusty Koellhoffer
8 years ago
Reply to  guest

What does the proportion matter? That anyone is a pedophile with the blessings of Muhammad is enough!

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago

Show your proof! Oh that’s right, you have none. Smh. I’ll stop entertaining this foolishness now. Yall are just dumb smh

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago

Only Allah can bless something fyi. And since Allah only speaks through Quran, there is no such blessing for pedophilia. Neither is there such in the Bible for those priests, and forget the Talmud, nothing of such in the Torah for the Jews either. God is consistent.

Dusty Koellhoffer
Dusty Koellhoffer
8 years ago

But Allah allowed it to Muhammad because he is the Prophet. Muhammad said so, which only proves that Allah is Satan.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago

Once again, where is your proof that he was a pedophile? If he was one, then every christian, jew, and pagan in the land is guilty of the same. Should I call granddad a pedophile for marrying grandma off the farm when she was still in high school? Or was that proper culture? In this instance, he was not acting out of sync with the upstanding culture of his time. No prophet permission in this case amigo. Sorry. I know you really wanted this one huh? Lol. #fail

Dusty Koellhoffer
Dusty Koellhoffer
8 years ago

How stupid you are to make such a challenge. Aisha was nine years old when he raped her, not even a teenager who had begun to menstruate. Even the Muslims of the time questioned his taking a child into his bed, but he told them that Allah came to him in a dream and said it was allowed him for being the Prophet. You can suck it!

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago

Where is your PROOF for ANY of these claims? Your like a person who reads gossip collumns. You do no scholarship, and rather express personal opinion based on brainwashed bias. Like with the others, my work here is done. You wouldn’t see the truth if the sky opened up. Btw, kids menstruate as early as 8. My mom is a gyn.

Dusty Koellhoffer
Dusty Koellhoffer
8 years ago

You’re like the dumbass who thinks he can tell a lie and then claim being affronted for being called out on your lie. That’s psychotic. Anyone who cares can Google Aisha and learn all about Muhammad taking a nine year old girl into his bed.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago

Marraige yes. Taking into bed. No. Google brings up plenty of bs. What’s the source? Then we can examine it’s credibility. Reality is, assume what you may. Judge the tree by the fruit it beared. She is the Mother of the Faith and wore that title proudly. How many church victims walk around proclaiming the same? None! Because victims don’t do that. It’s illogical. She didn’t stay a child her whole life you know. Nor did she have Benjamin Button disease. She was human. Which means she did become an adult one day. You all love to bring her up, yet ignore her as an adult. I get it though. If you focused on her adult life, it would ruin your claims for the childhood trauma. Smart! But misleading in the extreme

Dusty Koellhoffer
Dusty Koellhoffer
8 years ago

Muhammad was dead before she turned 10, so there is no dodging his rape of her as a child. An abused child growing up to defend her rapist is well known in psychology.

Sia Gomez
Sia Gomez
8 years ago

who prefer not to answer..simply endorse sharia

rambler
rambler
8 years ago

No one is forcing those muslims to continue to live here. There are other options.

Roger
Roger
8 years ago
Reply to  rambler

You couldn’t run them out of here with a club. The riches nation on earth is here for the taking. A Jihadist dream come true and they live very well while doing it. Nope, they’re not going anywhere but up.

MAS
MAS
8 years ago

“1 in 3 Muslims in the US support violence against those who insult Muhammad, Quran or Islam”

And the other 2 are liars…they want to kill for it too or have ISIS kill you for them.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  MAS

I’m muslim and I don’t wish you dead. And since recent declassified pentagon docs state that ISIS was started by the west, and is in no way islam, I have no love or connection for that terrorist organization. The beauty of your comment is just one reply can disprove it lol. PEACE be unto you.

MAS
MAS
8 years ago

ISIS, the Islamic State, isn’t Islamic? Could have fooled me but then maybe all those videos of them chanting “Allah Akbar” while they saw off heads confused me. You disproved nothing troll and any thinking person here knows that full well. Rest in peace…hope you repent first so you will.

MAS
MAS
8 years ago

Taqiyya/Kitman much?

Susan
Susan
8 years ago

Wrong again IS is pure islam as a new convert to islam have you not taken the time to read the koran?

Now, let us have a closer look at what the Koran says about the infidels:-

Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)

Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)

When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)

Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)

Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)

The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)

Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)

The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)

Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies
(22:19)

Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)

The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)

Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)

Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)

Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels (8:60)

The Qur’an certainly proclaims that when the time is appropriate, Muslims must use force to convert the unbelievers to Islam. For the non-Muslims, the alternative to this is to pay the humiliating protection money (Jizya tax) or be killed (by beheading, of course). A militarily dominant Islam, without doubt, precludes the peaceful co-existence with the unbelievers if the Muslims have to abide strictly by the unalterable stipulations of the Qur’an.

This is why we see very few “moderate” muslims coming out and speaking against the violence. There is so much overwhelming evidence stacked against them not able to be “moderate” because of the fundamental belief’s of Islam.

IslamDownpressesHumanity
IslamDownpressesHumanity
8 years ago

What about someone who insults your holy pedophile, mass murderer and Jew hating prophet? Do you want to kill me Achmed?

Cate
Cate
8 years ago

I see he hasn’t answered. I fully expect to see his obtuse pile of shiite, proclaiming he’s “proven” how right he is.

Cate
Cate
8 years ago

I’m not muslim, and I don’t wish you dead. But, until you people stand up, en masse, publicly denounce your terrorist counterparts, and DEMAND an overhaul to the murdering, savage ideology that IS Islam, and expunge the texts of the violence, you cannot be trusted. Not one of you.

You all cloak yourselves in a thin veneer of civility. But, at the least provocation, you will throw off that cloak and expose yourselves for what you are – murdering muslim savages. Frankly, I want you OUT of here, and I will do everything in my power to see that it happens.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Cate

I’m not Christian, and I don’t wish you dead. But until white people stand up, in masse, and publicly denounce your racist white supremacist counterparts, and DEMAND an overhaul to the murdering, lynching, educational and economical oppression that IS White American Christianity that used the Bible to justify slavery, you cannot be trusted. Not one pale face of you.

You all cloak yourselves I’m a thin coat of civility and political correctness. But, with NO provocation, you will expose yourselves for what you are – a culture vulture, enslaver of races, oppressor, and murderer inside of holy houses no less. Frankly, I don’t care if you want me gone. The blood of my ancestors, spilt by those terrorist white christians, built these lands. So sorry, here to stay. I don’t leave before you do lol. Btw…I hope you realize how ignorant you sound after I flipped your anti muslim rant against you. Even with all your venom, peace be unto you. I wish you no harm.

Cate
Cate
8 years ago

Go screw a goat, inbred. You know you want it, because that’s what you people do. Well, besides engaging in throat slittings, decapitations, stonings, amputations, clitorectomies, honor killings, acid attacks, baby thighing, misogyny, inbreeding, bestiality, necrophilia, and even cannabalism. Yup, it’s all sanctioned in the name of your ideology, your f’ed up “god” and that ridiculous thing you call a “prophet.” I wish you no harm, either. Just wish for you and ALL your ilk to be OUT of my country.

It’s day 7 of Ramadan. Here’s the bomb-a-thon scorecard, all done in the name of Islam:

67 terrorist attacks,
14 suicide bombings
488 dead bodies
499 wounded

Yup, Islam sure is the religion of peace. LOL!

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Cate

Correction. Our country. More mine than yours if you count how I’m Native American mixed with descendants of slaves. Everyone else outside of those two ethnicities immigrated here of their own accord. If you don’t like it, go back to where ur forefathers came. Do I really need to tally how many MILLIONS of black folks have been killed in this country in the name of white christianity? Like more than 10xs that of the Holocaust over the 400 years of slavery? Look at the pot calling the kettle black! Good luck in your mission. Lemme just say ull waste your life away because it’ll never happen lol

Cate
Cate
8 years ago

There it is. The race card. lol! So that’s the REAL bottom line here. Feeling like you missed out, like you’re unappreciated? So you converted to Islam to feel superior to others. How convenient. It’s the Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold mentality.

I wonder how long it will be until you head over to the Daesh hellhole of your choice to take out your feelings of frustration on other humans. I hope the FBI is watching you – in fact, I will bet they are – because this site IS on their radar.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Cate

Not worried they’ve already come to visit me. Nothing to see here Lol and I was born in this faith. No need to covert. I wasn’t radicalized. I love how you run from the truth that is white supremacy terrorism. That is the real terror in america. Started with those diseases blankets and never stopped being such. Last week in South Carolina proved this fact. And fyi, I’ll never abandon my inheritance. My ancestors did not die by white terrorist hands during slavery and during freedom wars, for me to give up my country to go somewhere that isn’t even practicing Islam correctly. No thanks. Tell fox they lied to you when you got brainwashed

Cate
Cate
8 years ago

Well, if the FBI came to visit you, there was a reason to do so. And I hope they are reading this right now!

And by the way, it’s time to get over the racism schtick. Seriously. GET OVER IT. All our ancestors were persecuted in one way or another. It’s not my fault that there were slaves in this country. And you are not a slave in this country. So stop playing the victim.

It was terrible what happened in SC last week. And yes, that was racism and evil in it’s purest form. But, it’s time for people like yourself to get over it. It’s not the 1930’s or 40’s or 50’s or even the 60’s. You have the same opportunities in this country that everyone else has. I’m a woman, who has striven VERY hard to to build what I’ve built, and to keep it going. Each of us make our own reality. We either put on our big pants and get it done, or we don’t. We have that choice. It doesn’t matter what religion we follow or what color we are. We are what we choose.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

Unfortunately, too many here go to the extreme, and accuse you of being the typical “radical” mos lem.
Even in the survey used in this article, there is a high portion of mos lem Americans, that disagree with all the violent parts of islam.
Sadly, they still believe that all mos lems are terrorists.
One of my biggest problems is in identifying the “radical” from the “moderate”
Any ideas?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Quran. If a person has the Qur’an as his/her law, and studies that book, you will see peace and productivity. Too often non muslims and even muslims do not want to do the scholarship work themselves. They’d rather listen to “sheiks” or Pat Robinsons who can make up anything. We all look the same, just as all white boys with pouches entering churches look the same. Or all north Koreans with communist uniforms look the same. If 2/3 are on your side, it is easy to overpower the supposed 1/3. Just like in our legislative branch lol better yet I have even found just like with that confederate flag, popular opinion can move those even stuck on “heritage”. Befriend 3 muslims, making a square. The 3 of you will overpower the thoughts of the fourth right angle 🙂 Peace be unto you

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

Thanks.
I see that you didn’t answer Susan’s comment below.
I have read the koran, and I did not see even one passage, where allah shows his love for me, a non-believer, yet there are over 500 passages, where allah shows his cruelty and hate towards me, a non-believer.
Susan has listed, but a few.
Why doesn’t the creator of the world, like me?
I’m Jewish, and for some reason, mos lems hate me.
You do accept pluralism and freedom of religion, don’t you?
I have no problem, with you practicing islam, especially you, because you are against violent jihad, and that brutal sharia law.
Why are mos lems forcing their way on others?
We Jews don’t force Judaism on anyone.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Qur’an 3:113-115
Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book are a portion that stand (for the right); they rehearse the Signs of Allah all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration. They believe in Allah and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous. Of the good that they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for Allah knoweth well those that do right.”

Only Pagans and those who declare the Prophet THEIR enemy are the unbelievers in Quran fyi. Jews and Christians are “People of the Book”. You are addressed directly by Allah many times in the Qur’an
Jews lived in Medina in peace during the Prophet’s time. No forced conversion. They paid Jizya, or tax, like how we do here in America. The ones that were slayed committed treason, like here in America, and not all were killed. Plenty tribes continued to honor their oath to the city state. Any muslim who shows you hate, reply “is that how the Prophet would’ve treated me in Medina?” The answer will always be no. Clearly showing them in the wrong. My uncle is Jewish btw. We get along just fine. Lol

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

So an atheist, has no place in this world?
He may live a good life, but not because of any guidance from allah. He thinks that all this allah stuff is a bunch of BS.
Most of the atheists, curse God, and anything to do with him.
But, you still haven’t addressed the cruel and hate parts of the koran?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

I cannot find the thing u said I didn’t respond to. We do have hate of wrong doing. Absolutely. Even math states only another negative can coexist with a negative. But as Prophet Jesus said, “don’t hate the person, hate the behavior. Society should not be so free that even evil can roam. How can you say then your society is a good one? And the atheist isn’t even an athiest. He’ll still call on God right before he meets death. “Oh God!”. You have to give me a verse you are referring to though to answer your question fully. Idol worshipper or sworn enemies are not the same as one who is seeking truth fyi. Abraham was an intelligent truth seeker. His brain led him to faith. THAT IS why is the Father of Faith.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

There is a comment from Susan to you below, from 7 hours ago, with some verses from the koran, such as 48:29.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

What about it? Once again, Christians and Jews are referred to as “the people of the book”. Unbelievers where those who openly declared him to be their enemy, because he taught monotheism. If someone openly declares not only to be your enemy, but vows to kill you, are you to be gentle with them? We don’t turn the other cheek. Come after me I come after you. That’s just human. No religion needed on that one.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

Weak and evasive, but let’s move on.
Fact is, that the Jews, today sit on 0.5% of all the Middle East lands, and islam sits on 99.5%.
Now, I’m led to believe, that mohammed, was all about love and peace, and was a great protector of minorities, women , and children.
As the Jews, are in such a minority situation, why aren’t mos lems, following mohammed’s lead, with respect to the minority Jews, and almost all mos lems curse the Israelis?
Why not let them live in peace on that 0.5%?
Can’t islam be satisfied with it’s 99.5% share?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Not weak and evasive in the least. If you are a jew, you are referred to as a jew, or People of the book. The Arabic is even more specific. An unbeliever is an unbeliever. Simple. Look at how Ethiopian Jews are treated in Israel. Learn why it happens within even your .05 percent before questioning other places. My real answer is because true Islam isn’t being practiced in most places. We have allowed ourselves to be corrupted as the other faiths have. The one difference is through the Quran, we at least have a compass to find the truth again if that be the desire.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

He’s now using the fallacy of argumentation called the No True Scotsman (i.e. they’re not real muslims).

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Perfect.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

I think that my line of questioning has led to the truth about this supposedly “moderate mos lem”
Read the whole thread, another supremacist, hell bent on our submission, full of hate and hostility for the infidel.
I liked that jab at the Ethiopians was one of his best.
It’s “my way or the highway”

Cate
Cate
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Exactly right. The President of Turkey has even said that there are no moderate Muslims. Well, it takes one Muslim to know another. And when you question them about it, the truth always comes out. Yes, it’s all about their way or the highway.

joker
joker
8 years ago
Reply to  Cate

Erdogan would not have said that if Ataturk would have still been around. Erdogan is a traitor to Turkey and the day comes the Turks will get him.

Cate
Cate
8 years ago
Reply to  joker

You speak the truth, indeed!

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

I replied to it. I found it

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

It started with “Wrong again, IS is pure islam…….
And, she goes on to list 15 or so verses.

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

I don’t see what you are referring to.

joker
joker
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

The reason that Islam does not like Jews because the Jews know the truth about Islam.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

An overpowering peace doesn’t sound very peaceful.

joker
joker
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

The difference between a radical Muslim and a moderate Muslim is that the radical will cut your neck while the moderate keeps you down.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

It was muslims who sold blacks into slavery. Muslims were the supply side of slavery and still are to this day.

joker
joker
8 years ago

Tinsley are you not getting bored about yourself and Islam? You are obviously born in the US but I think not born a Muslim. Perhaps you are a so-called African American and found Islam or your parents did, to blame all the ills on the white people. Instead you should have blamed Islam for all your ills. The notion that all people are equal under Islam is false. Go to Saudi Arabia and see how black people or Pakistanis are treated Here in the West they have a big mouth about their rights (founded by white people) but in Mecca they will meet the sword.

joker
joker
8 years ago

In case the FBI came to you that means you are not really sound. Perhaps you are one of those African American Muslims going on the rampage one day. Hopefully some red necks might get you first, in that case.

Cate
Cate
8 years ago
Reply to  joker

Yup – just like the muzzie at Vaughan Foods who beheaded Colleen Hufford, and was in the process of beheading Traci Johnson, when he was shot by Mark Vaughan. He’s one of the many muzzies who appears to go bonkers and kill people. But, we know that they are just followers of Islam doing what they do.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

Why do you bitch and moan about slavery that was done in the past, but have nothing to say about the slavery going on in Mauritania or the Sudan or ISIS? Why don’t you try stopping the slavery there, instead of bitching about past slavery?

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

Awesome to read your comment.
Do you oppose violent jihad?
Do you oppose that brutal, rights denying sharia law?

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

I denounce violent jihad. The real Jihad is JihadulNafs, or the battle against your own desires. Next there is no shariah law as the media or Arab influenced culture suggests. Unfortunately even some muslims are ignorant of what Al Islam is, and would rather listen to some sheik. If suicide bombings brought heaven, how come the sheik aint the first to go? Pure bullshit. This is what Allah says in the QURAN about those inventing false laws (shariah)
42:21
They follow idols who decree for them (sharaau lahum) religious laws never authorized by God. If it were not for the predetermined decision, they would have been judged immediately. Indeed, the transgressors have incurred a painful retribution.*

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

First, thank for your reply.
But, your answer on Sharia, is a bit evasive .
I’m talking about the sharia that is practiced in brutal sharia states such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, Brunei?

Cate
Cate
8 years ago

Put a bumper sticker on your car in support of Israel, and you’ll see how quickly people think it’s okay to damage your vehicle. In particular, Muslims. I say this from experience.

Gruber Drone Siren
Gruber Drone Siren
8 years ago

Welcome to Barry and the Demoncraps Ameritopia.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

1-in-3 support it openly, the other 2/3’s lie about it…

Steven
Steven
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

T…a…q…u…i…ll…a No, NO, wait!
Taquia. yeah…I think that’s the one.

Voytek Gagalka
Voytek Gagalka
8 years ago

Our only hope is that those numbers will not become reversed as time progresses (that is when those 25-30% would become 60-70%). Otherwise we’re in big trouble. Message to politicians and mainstream media: it’s REAL Islam, you stupid! If so, it is high time to kick out all those Mohammedans out of our democratic and (still relatively) free countries!

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Voytek Gagalka

The correct term is muslim. No such thing as a mohammedan. #toomuchFoxNews

Voytek Gagalka
Voytek Gagalka
8 years ago

Consult better your dictionary, M. Briellard. Mohammedans = followers of Mohammed, and yes, it means muzzie!

Tinsley Briellard
Tinsley Briellard
8 years ago
Reply to  Voytek Gagalka

A made up word. You will find no such thing in the Quran. Your dictionary is not the authority of Islamic law. Muslimum=Muslim, muhminun= believer. That’s it. Thanks for showing us your ignorance. Would you go to China supreme court to interpret US constitution. How foolish would that be? Change your approach

Voytek Gagalka
Voytek Gagalka
8 years ago

What China? What US constitution? What kind of retarded logic is that? If your authority lies with “quran” – that’s good for you. But I have news for you: it has absolutely ZERO, null, zip, authority with me! I did not claim that “my” dictionary has any authority on sharia (so called islamic “law”) but that it serves one purpose and one purpose only: to use words there contained according to their meaning, because they are and we are HERE, in English language world, not in the IS. So, once again, Mohammedan! I know that you (and those similar to you) don’t like that, and that’s precisely why I used it, and continue to use it, you like it or not! So – become used to it, or simply sod off!

Kelleigh Nelson
Kelleigh Nelson
8 years ago

And we well know that the other 2 out of 3 will join in when necessary. Read Oriana Fallaci, she watched it all happen in Europe, and said, Europe is now Eurabia.

Nina
Nina
8 years ago

If they can’t adspt, let them leave.

BonniePrinceCharlieD
BonniePrinceCharlie
8 years ago

I didn’t see this poll published in the New York Times or on television (including Fox) or in any of the British print and broadcast media. I wonder how they all could have missed it.

Steve Brown
Steve Brown
8 years ago

Tinsley is a world class bull sh… artist. Islam had nothing to do with the Renaissance. The end of the dark ages was caused because the great German Theologian, Martin Luther, suffered from chronic severe constipation, and one day when Martin was sitting on his toilet writing his spiritual memoirs, he strained and strained and strained, then uhhh he was finally relieved by a giant poop. At that moment it came to him. Gods kingdom should be made here on earth, not just up in heaven. Thus came forth the ” Protestant Reformation” which led to ” Monarchical Mercantilism” and the ensuing European industrial revolution.

Cate
Cate
8 years ago
Reply to  Steve Brown

This Tinsley fellow will say anything that favors Islam. I’m sure he goes along with the Muslims who SWEAR the earth is flat, the sun revolves around the earth, and America was discovered by Muslims. Seriously. It makes them all look dumber than a box of rocks.

Steve Brown
Steve Brown
8 years ago

Somebody tell our buddy Tinsley about these fellows https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Renaissance_figures

Losent
Losent
8 years ago

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Alissa
Alissa
8 years ago

“In the US 1 in 3 muslims support violence against those who insult mohammed.” Of course they do. They are just being good muslims and following the quaran.
Islam…the religion of peace don’tcha know.

Dennis
Dennis
8 years ago

After reading this Poll commentary and the poll results, I then read some of the publics Comments, and I am mortified by the apparent conflict that seems so prevalent out there. I do not know how accurate this Poll’s results are, as I saw nothing with respect to that, but I did conclude that even amongst Islamic believers there is divergent views on just about everything that was asked and answered. A reading of this Poll leaves me believing that those who practice their faith are split as to the concept of Jihad and how, or if, sharia has a place here in the U.S.A. I truly believe that, whether Mohammad was, or was not the leader that so many claim could not have been inspired by a Higher Moral Authority, is irrelevant. Islam is a culture of conduct. Judaism, Christianity, and all of the belief systems are and involve cultures of conduct. How you act and what you do, based, very often on what your culture teaches you, is the relevant result to consider when determining whether any ones conduct can be faulted. I do not care what is said about Mohammad. The issue today, is what Islamic believers are doing as a result of their cultural beliefs. My greatest concern is whether and to what extent Islamic believers can assimilate into the cultural society which is America. It seems to me, and I have said it many times, that the bottom line is the conduct of the culture and whether the culture can ASSIMILATE. By assimilate I mean learning to live peaceably and tolerating those of other cultures, which to me is what this country is all about. If a culture cannot conduct itself in a manner that is consistent with the aforementioned, it should choose to live in a country in which its conduct can be accepted. That is the bottom line issue as I see it.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Dennis

Your comment raises a couple of questions.
First, when has islam ever assimilated into a “host” culture?
Second, does islam, even want to assimilate into a “host” culture?

Dennis
Dennis
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

To me those ARE the issues. If the believers of Islam cannot assimilate, by rejecting the notion of proselytizing in the manner of the Jihad (by force or intimidation) approach, fully accepting our laws, both common and statutory and honestly living by them, rejecting their Sharia system and adopting conduct that is neighborly and tolerant, they, like all those immigrants that came before them to this great country, should be given the same opportunities. If they cannot honestly do that for what ever reason, they should not be allowed in this country, as that conduct makes them inappropriate for American citizenship.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Dennis

And you are right 100%.
But, who will enforce such moves?
Sadly, I see it as a “perfect storm” for islam, and we are screwed.
By “perfect storm” I mean it’s the perfect combination of our human rights laden, progressive laws, with mos lems taking full advantage of this, as it has become our weak spot.
No one, has the balls to stand up, like Geert Wilders, and put a stop to it.
We are therefore screwed.

Dennis
Dennis
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

If more people agree with my thoughts, thoughts that are consistent with Pamela, Spencer and many like them, I would hope that a mind set can be established in this country and that our next leaders have the courage and tenacity to act in a manner that will save us from the turmoil that inability to assimilate will bring to this country.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Dennis

Sorry Dennis, but HOPE isn’t going to cut it.
If you read back through my disqus history, you will see that I’m Israeli-Canadian.
I live in Canada today, and have been lobbying the Canadian Government, to stop with it’s insane mos lem immigration for over 6 years years now.
Our Immigration Minister, sees what I see, if he pays any attention to what I send him, yet does nothing
At least, our Prime Minister, has called the Islamic state by it’s proper name ISLAMIC, and admits that it’s all about Islam, yet of the 260,000 new immigrants to Canada this year, 90,000 will be Muslim.
We spend billions of $’s annually, securing Canada from these mos lems allowed in.
Billions are very significant for Canada, as our economy is about 1/10 of the US.
Yet, we continue down this path to sure destruction.
If I was young today, and having this knowledge, I would build my future career in the security industry.
It’s only going to get worse, as when infected by the islam virus, there is no cure.
I’m in my 60’s, and when I broach the islam subject with my peers, 100% want to see the end of the islam BS, yet nothing will be done.
Mark my words.
Now, lets look at Israel.
20% of Israelis are Arab, much higher than Canada, but the Israelis have learned to control them.
It’s next to impossible for a mos lem to get Israeli citizenship, with preference ALWAYS given to Jews, as the democratic State of Israel, wants to be Jewish, not mos lem.
There is a security barrier, that mos lems may pass, after thorough vetting, to keep the riff raff out.
This has rendered Tel Aviv as one of the safest cities in the world, and yet it sits in the middle of all the pious mos lem jihad, that you could imagine.
Is all of this “racist”
I don’t know, but it sure is surviving, and thriving, in the face of mos lem jihad.
Just look at my interaction with this Tinsley dude, here on this thread, and I would label him “moderate”
He is as dangerous, as any “radical” out there, as all it would take, would be any “provocation”, and BOOM, he would be right in the middle of it calling and acting for the death of the infidels.
In questioning, as I did, he would not be allowed to pass the security barrier in Israel.
Read the thread, and you will see why.
This is a bit of rambling, sorry about that, and it’s Friday, the day of prayers at the mosque, and as seeing that this is ramadan, it will be even a more violent day in the mos lem jihad world.
It ALWAYS goes this way, ALWAYS.
Anyway, Sir, in short, we are screwed, but my luck, is that I always will have Israel as a refuge, when things will really heat up here, and they will, because it ALWAYS does, when islam infects a society, ALWAYS.
Anyway, look to Israel for the answers, and hang on, as it’s going to be a rough ride, as islam has infected the US, sadly from the top down.
God bless

Dennis
Dennis
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

I recognize everything that you have written is correct. Hope is not the answer, and I never intended to give that impression. I have been preaching to anyone and everyone, even before 9-11, that us non-Muslims need to protect ourselves from the scourge of the fanatical/terrorist Islamic world, a belief system that I have long felt could not be trusted. My disgust is with the failure of America’s elected leaders to recognize this scourge for what it is. Salvation from this scourge, based on what I see is happening today, must come with affirmative acts that are now necessary to destroy this cancerous group, before it destroys us. The cowardice shown by our leaders mortifies me. History should have taught us that unless actions to stop them is taken they will overrun, as did the Nazi’s and Fascist’s in the 1930’s. We don’t seem to learn from history.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Dennis

What did I tell you about Fridays in ramadan.
Pretty brutal day yesterday eh?
Dennis, both of our countries have unique opportunities to make change in our futures, through the democratic process.
By the way, I wholeheartedly agree and support democracy.
Both Canada, and Israel are democratic, with Israel being ultra-democratic.
We, in Canada, have Federal elections coming up in the fall, and you guys get to go to the polls in the fall of 2016.
I love the 3 ring circus, that your electoral process has become. It makes for great TV viewing, by the way.
To my point.
We both have a chance, to put the mos lem issue, front and centre on our National Agendas, and perhaps bring about change.
My plan, is to get out to as many candidate meetings and debates as possible, to question our candidates about islam and irresponsible mos lem immigration.
I’m going to make sure that my candidates, are aware that I am recording their answers, and that I will do my very best, to hold them to their words.
I’m going to use 2 points, violent mos lem jihad, and that brutal, rights denying sharia law in any form, in Canada.
I’m going to force them into a corner, either they support or oppose the two, or one of them.
Deflection and avoidance, won’t work, as I am nobody’s fool, and can stand and debate with the best of them.
Polls here in Canada, show that 90%+ of Canadians agree with me in opposing violent jihad, and sharia law.
I’m sure that I will be called “racist and islamophobe” by some, but it is a small price to pay for trying to stop islam in Canada.
I can only hope, that you too, will get involved in your area, and do the same next year.
We won’t have the opportunity to do so again for another 4 years, and only God knows where we will be visa vis islam in another 4 years.
One thing that I can guarantee, is that our situation will NEVER be better, as the virus of islam has already infected us.

Cate
Cate
8 years ago

For Tinsley – here’s your muzzie buddies. There have been 2 attacks this morning by muslims. One in France and one in Tunisia. The 2 muslims in France beheaded a guy and hung his head on a fence. And one of the muslims’ wife said she just doesn’t know what happened. She said they are “normal” muslims. They have 3 kids, he goes to work every day. Yup, just regular, “normal” muslims. And then of course, 27 people were murdered this morning at a resort in Tunisia. By muslims, of course. By your “standards”, you’ll say they misunderstand Islam. Bullsh*t. They are following what you all are commanded to do in that vile, evil manual you call the ko-ran.

As I’ve said before, you all cloak yourselves in a thin veneer of civility, and at the least provocation, you throw off that cloak to expose yourselves for what you REALLY are – freakin’ murdering savages. Get it through your head Tinsley, your ‘religion’ is f’ed up. Always has been. No one trusts you people, anywhere. And I do my utmost to NEVER hire a muslim. I refuse to do business with you people, I will not go to your restaurants, I will not shop in your stores. Islam needs to be wiped off the face of the earth, period.

MRHapla
MRHapla
8 years ago

My data shows that 3 out 3 Muslims are members of a psychotic murder blood cult of death.

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