Police confirm Pamela Geller was initial target of Boston Muslims’ jihad terror plot

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The depraved media, i.e., Reuters, has tried to distract and obfuscate the real story here — ISIS and their devout followers in America are targeting for death Americans on our home soil. I have been targeted for assassination twice in just four weeks. The headline Reuters ran, “Activist says Boston beheading plot targeted her; police express doubt,” is false and vicious. The NY Times hasn’t even run the story, but did run three stories about a Muslima supremacist’s whining complaint (since proven false) that the reason she could only get a full cup of Diet Coke and not an unopened can was because of islamofauxbia.

The enemedia is aligned with the jihad force, and their mission is to destroy the few who dare speak candidly about the jihad threat.

Gellerphobia.

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“Police confirm Pamela Geller was initial target of Boston Muslims’ jihad terror plot,” (thanks to Robert Spencer), June 6, 2015

Giving the lie to headlines such as this one from Reuters: “Activist says Boston beheading plot targeted her; police express doubt.” This was never true: the claim that the Boston jihadis were targeting Pamela Geller never came from Geller herself; she first heard about it when CNN called her and asked her for comment about it. The mainstream media elites hate Pamela Geller so much, they will even lie to minimize threats to her from Islamic jihad killers. And the police saying the plot was “wishful thinking” is more of this — it was real enough for the FBI and NYPD to alert Geller last week that something very serious was afoot. Although they didn’t tell her the specifics, it is clear now that this was the plotting to which they were referring.

Of course, if this had been a jihad plot against, say, Daisy Khan, not that there ever would be such a thing, no one would be expressing any skepticism at all. But Pamela Geller is just the wrong kind of jihad victim, as far as the corrupt and compromised elites are concerned.

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“Police confirm Geller was initial target of terror plot,” by Denise Lavoie, Associated Press, June 5, 2015:

BOSTON — The family of a Boston man shot to death by terrorism investigators was shocked by allegations that he planned to kill police officers, and saw no signs that he had become radicalized, their attorney said Thursday.

Ronald Sullivan, a Harvard Law professor, said Usaama Rahim’s family considered him “an energetic young man trying to make his way in this world” and saw no behavior or changes in demeanor that would lead them to suspect he would espouse violence.

Surrounded by Rahim’s brothers, mother and wife on the sidewalk where Rahim was shot, Sullivan said they hope to work “productively and cooperatively” with investigators in a “joint effort to search for the truth.”

“Let me be clear: The family is not making any substantive claims at this time about what happened in this case,” Sullivan said. He said the family planned to view a video of the shooting later Thursday, but said that may not tell the whole story.

Rahim, 26, was fatally shot Tuesday after investigators said he refused to drop a military-style knife as they sought to question him about “terrorist-related information.” Police have said the video shows officers backing up and Rahim moving toward them before they fired.

Sullivan said Rahim’s brother Ibrahim Rahim, a well-known imam in Boston, regrets posting a Facebook message based on incorrect, third-hand information claiming that his brother had been shot three times in the back.

“We now know we simply did not have all the facts at that time,” Sullivan said.

Police Commissioner William Evans said Rahim had talked about beheading blogger Pamela Geller before deciding to target police officers. “There was some mention of that name,” said Evans, who dismissed the idea as “wishful thinking” while speaking on the “Today” show.

A Muslim leader said Thursday that his killing by Boston Police and the FBI was reckless and unnecessary. Imam Abdullah Faaruuq, who is close to the Rahim family, said he believes they wanted him dead.

“You can capture elephants, lions and tigers without killing them,” Faaruuq said. “The intent was not to capture him and keep him alive.”

Faaruuq said Rahim had been under surveillance for nearly three years, but he’s not convinced, based on what law enforcement officials have released, that it was warranted.

He also noted that the family had difficulties trying to bury their son because at least one cemetery refused to accept his body because he was a suspected terrorist. The funeral service and burial will be held Friday but the family is keeping it private, he said.

Geller wasn’t surprised that she may have been a target.

She’s a combative personality known for provoking Muslims by campaigning against a mosque near the World Trade Center site in New York, sponsoring inflammatory advertisements and organizing Prophet Muhammad cartoon contest in Texas

“They want to make an example out of me to frighten the rest of the US into silence and submission,” Geller wrote in an e-mail to the AP on Thursday. “This is not about me. This is about whether the US will stand for freedom or submit and cower before violent intimidation.”…

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Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

Geller is trying so hard to feel important. In trying to be a Islamophobe and a fear/hate propaganda activist, she doesn’t care if the secular fabric of America is damaged and if she attracts zealots to wage violent reactions to the constant humiliation and racist actions she engages in. Hope she gets her bodyguards paid without using American taxpayer dollars.

daniel
daniel
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

I rather having my tax dollars paid to protect her than having Obama send it over sea to train Muslim terrorists.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  daniel

Or you could declare the oil President and Haliburton Ceo vice president, who invaded Iraq, destroyed the government and rendered into oblivion a generation of Iraqi children dead, sick, uneducated and poor so that they could buy guns from the Military Industry to form violent factions like ISIS

BraveOnMyKeyboard
BraveOnMyKeyboard
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

The Iraqi’s themselves have a lot of the blame to share. Bush would have been happy to move on, but the death grip in that culture was too strong. No thanks here.

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Your late sadaam Hussein used POISON GAS, a WMD, on the Kurds of Halabja Iraq. 5,000 died. The people of Iraq were tortured, brutalized, murdered by one of their own.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

And yet it is nowhere close to how many Iraqis you killed before and after 9/11.

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Sadaam killed Iraqis and Kurds before and after 9/11. As ISIS, Taliban, Boko Haram, Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qada, Fascist Iran kill Muslims today.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago

Saddam also fired Scud missiles into Israel. All acts of izlamic terrorism.

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

With “you” you mean …. The Americans?

oh no, by far the most iraqi deaths were caused by Muslims. Before 9/11, it was Saddam who recklessly, selfishly, opposed the majority of mankind with the UN. And he was busy killing many Iraqi’s too; many massgraves were found after his defeat. Once he shot a guard, whose only crime it was to tell a visitor where he was. What if Bush had done that? He would be instantly indicted!

After 9/11 it was Muslims who fired the guns, wielded the knives and committed the suicidal attacks, that killed by far the most Iraqi’s. Why, Zarqawi was killing shiites all the time in 2003-2011.

You Muslims, you do not even assign responsibility to the actual Islamic killers, you portray your own co-religionists as some sort of apes without a free will of their own, acting like puppets of Americans.

To me, it’s more like the Americans were hated, despised, deceived and duped all the time by Muslims in Iraq.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

The majority of civilian deaths were not the direct result of the actions of Coalition forces (i.e. it wasn’t Coalition force gunning down innocents).

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

But, but, you don’t hate THEM for it, do you? If you do, why do you complain about the hate you perceive here? After all, it’s not like there is a lack of Islam-inspired atrocities. Causing good people to hate the bad Muslims that carry them out, shouting “allahu akbar” all the time.

Don’t measure with 2 standards, either do not hate anyone yourself or understand and accept that both sides have ideologies and persons they hate.

But people being hateful is unstoppable and anyway not a problem as long as it does not cause violence. The hateful speech in the world is also plentiful balanced with lovespeech.

They both have their place, why do you complain so much about hatespeech?

livingengine
livingengine
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

What?

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  livingengine

Do you drink oil?

livingengine
livingengine
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

What are you talking about? You act like a ridiculous troll.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  livingengine

Well, then you should mumble and explain more than a monosyllable, “what”.

livingengine
livingengine
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

You are a ridiculous troll.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  livingengine

What?

livingengine
livingengine
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

You have nothing to say. You are a fresh mouthed troll.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  livingengine

Yeah, what?

livingengine
livingengine
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

You have nothing. A nonentity. A punk troll.

Vinny
Vinny
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

wow,you really have no clue, do you ?

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Vinny

I need clues to be hateful? No thanks, I will pass

Vinny
Vinny
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Where is the hate coming from? Not from her

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Vinny

Oh yeah, she just sets the play ground and watches the fun.

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

You’re using the coran for your hate right?

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

What is coran? I try real hard not to hate

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

The coran is the book of shiite that your stone wrote.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

I want what you smoke too!

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Try camel turds.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

No thanks, you keep it.

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

I hear Mohammed liked them.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago

He should remember to wash them down w/some delightful, healthy camel urine!

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

coran? It’s the inspiration for the 9/11 hijackers, bombers of Pan Am 103, beheader of British soldier Lee Rigby, bombers of the Boston Marathon, 2005 bombers of London transport, death fatwa on the writer Salman Rushdie, failed sneaker and underwear bombers…

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

Oh my! I must stay away from this coran then

atl slayer
atl slayer
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Alright “Mathew”, ….wage violent reactions to constant humiliation,,,???
I think you have your poles switched or something, are you one of those who equates drawing a picture the same a murdering a.person.
what ever you say????……….

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  atl slayer

Really, you make it sound like all this time you had the freedom to draw Mohammad’s cartoon, but not anymore? There is only one intention with the cartoons. It is not creative freedom, but hate. Hate speech is not free speech.

atl slayer
atl slayer
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

So all cartoons are “hate” or just the ones you don’t like?

and there is no such thing as hate speech in a free society.

plenty of places to find tyranny on this planet don’t try to subject me or anyone but yourself to slavery,

the drawing is art. Real art is true.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  atl slayer

I love art and caroons, some cartoons are thought provoking and disturbing. But there is no substance or purpose other than intentionally hurting religious sentiments. This “art” is like graffiti to target, isolate and seperate Americans on the basis of faith

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

oh…well , then you’ve something to say about the Death to all Jews rhetoric coming from the world of Islam..how about the actual deaths of Christians throughout Syria and Iraq..is that real enough for you ??

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  veritas

Oh, you didnt care when Iraqi children died in 1990s because of US sanctions becausw there was oil profits to be made? Invasion of Iraq magically becomes pre emptive strike and aubsequent war victims became casualties of war?

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

You make quite a number of harsh assumptions , Sir. I am not an American, I did not call for that war and I am not individually responsible for those deaths. How does calling for the death of Jewish people around the world fix what happened, don’t side step the point, Muhammedian.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  veritas

Well you are not American and I’m not a Muslim either. In fairness though, I didn’t realize I was unintentionally insulting you by calling you an American.

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

I was clarifying .

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  veritas

Here’s my clarification. They’re ALL human. NO violence is justified violence. Future matters more than history. Being civilized means talking with respect. Gellers bug motto starts with “in a fight between civilized and the savage” and she’s uncivilized

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

She’s blunt, she’s honest and she is willing to say what most will not. Are you aware of the Qu’ranic edit about killing Jews ? How is it uncivilized to be blunt about that ? You aren’t Jewish, clearly.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  veritas

Though I have not been fortunate to have born as “God’s Favorite” child as a Jew, it doesn’t preclude me from having the understanding to know that my Muslim friends are not as obsessed with the militant Islam. Explain why you have more knowledge of negative edits and ignore what my Muslim friends know and practice, the kindness and the love they demonstrate in their Quran and lives? Let me think, you must be someone who calls themselves a Jew, but either not from Israel or a “convenient ” Jew?

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

and just who might you, Mr. Muslim ?

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  veritas

I am

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

NO ONE here is saying…ALL MUSLIMS….no one. I don’t know what you mean by negative edit , I don’t know your friends…so how can I ignore OR acknowledge them ?! Are your friends supporting Israel, are they supporting the Jewish people…..and I don’t know YOU…and YOU don’t know ME…so, you aren’t in a position to say a thing about me…so , with all due respect, Sir….PISS OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  veritas

Well you don’t know me either yet you label me and like I guessed didn’t like a bit of your own medicine when I labeled you, did you? ! I don’t see there is need (for me) for supporting Israel or Palestine’s war or add to dividing any humans because they are different from me. What I strongly support is educate people to do more by not be controlled by fear and start being kind. Because I’ve seen how ignorance corrupts people who were once innocent.

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Oh yes, oh yes you did. You called Pamela Geller uncivilized….and you meant worse..
The rape rate in Sweden has increased by 1400 %. The Swedes made a conscious decision to be a multi cultural society……………..and LOOK where it got them. I guess it’s okay to rape a takfiri women , huh ? Yeah, because kindness and respect works , yeah ?

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  veritas

It is NOT ok to rape ANY body. I expect the best out of Pamela Geller because she stands for a Noble cause (ensuring Freedom of Expression is not trampled upon) and is lucky to have access to the media, be independent, be educated, has decent Public speaking skills and yet chose to exclusively focus on 1 Faith system while promoting another and engaging in hate propanda by looking only at the worst, misinterpreted ideologies and help with spreading them further. If one uses their good fortune to engage in bigotry and hatred to make a profit, that is uncivilized.

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Ms. Geller isn’t a public servant and she doesn’t exist to meet anyone else’s expectations. What is misinterpreted about the Sura’s that teach death to the takfira , about searching behind every tree an rock to find a Jew to kill ? Seems pretty straight forward to me.

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

and what have you to say today , Mr . Matthew ? What have you to say today , after a beheading and explosion in France, a bomb being blown up in Kuwait, how many people shot in Tunisia , oh and then there is what happened in Somalia…..all of those crimes against humanity COMMITTED BY MUSLIMS MR. MATTHEW …WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT ???

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

And ARE you contending with the calls for Jewish deaths…are you posting on Islamic sites with your view ? You would like us to be respectful of those who wish for our deaths ?? ARE YOU ?? When someone threatens your life…are you respectful….???

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  veritas

Show me a mainstream, American Islamic page that calls for violence and I will respectfully report them to the police or understand and educate them too. If someone wishes my death, it’s because they don’t know me

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

How about the unidicted members of CAIR ? Good enough example , I would think.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  veritas

If they’re guilty, they definitely must be tried in court and punished. Could you give the name/s of the criminals who got away? I can’t imagine how some organizations are able to do heinous crimes by throwing a sheepskin over their wolfish, predator actions.

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

I am confident in your ability to research this for yourself.

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Shari’a and Violence in American Mosques :: Middle East Quarterly …
http://www.meforum.org/2931/american-mosques

by M Kedar – ‎2011 – ‎Cited by 5 – ‎Related articlesJan 24, 2011 – A comprehensive study of the relationship between Shari’a adherence and incitement to violence in American mosques found that mosques …
Most U.S. Mosques Teach Violence | Human Events
humanevents.com/2011/06/14/most-us-mosques-teach-violence/
Jun 14, 2011 – Last week came new confirmation that mosques in the U.S. aren’t quite holding potluck suppers and teaching civic pieties. A new study has …
Shari’a and Violence in American Mosques
http://www.frontpagemag.com/…/sharia-and-violence-in-american-mosques/
Jun 10, 2011 – The leadership of mosques that featured violence-positive literature was more … Our findings that 81% of U.S. mosques contain this literature, while …..Muslims have been openly teaching it and practicing it for 1400 years.
Mapping Shari’a | About The Survey
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and Violent Dogma in U.S. Mosques. Mordechai Kedar and David Yerushalmi. ABSTRACT. random survey of 100 representative mosques in the U.S. was conducted to … Robert Spencer in Human Events: Most U.S. Mosques Teach Violence …
New Study Shows That 80% of Mosques in America Teach …
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Jun 8, 2011 – And now comes yet more confirmation that mosques in the U.S. are … ‘Shari’a and Violence in American Mosques,’ by Mordechai Kedar and …
Most U.S. Mosques Teach Violence :: Islamist Watch
http://www.islamist-watch.org/7265/most-us-mosques-teach-violence
Jun 14, 2011 – Last week came new confirmation that mosques in the U.S. aren’t quite holding potluck suppers and teaching civic pieties. A new study has …
Jihadist extremism in the United States – Wikipedia, the free …
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihadist_extremism_in_the_United_States
This is not an exhaustive listing of American violent extremists, but …. There is no government policy on the establishment of mosques in the United States and no ….right to liberty and to teach them that the principles that founded America do …
American Muslim Children Taught to Hate – Clarion Project
http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/american-muslim-children-taught-hate
During my research I have identified numerous mosques that are teaching young Muslim children to hate America and are leading them to commit future violent …
Sue Campbell – More than 80% of mosques in the USA …
https://www.facebook.com/…/posts/841326779287955
More than 80% of mosques in the USA PREACH VIOLENCE AND EXTREMISM AGAINST JEWS AND CHRISTIANS !! PLEASE SHARE…
Mosques teaching hate | The Counter Jihad Report
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May 3, 2013 – There is a nexus between disaffected Muslims and those who graduate toviolence, and two studies point to the American mosque. Now that …

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  veritas

I will closely read the articles over the weekend. I must point out that most articles where written by David Yerushalemi and Robert Spencer, certified A racists, supremacists and Hate mongering financiers, but no matter. I will keep an open mind. I also want to point out, I asked for Islamic pages based in USA that is calling for hate/violent Jihad. My fight is against ignorance and hate/fear mongering in the US. And I won’t bias on basis of religion

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Ayan Hursi Ali, Wafa Sultan, Walid Shobatt, Mosab Hasan Youseff et al

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Here is a list of contempory authors/ critics of Islam : please note that none of them are either Robert Spencer or David Yerushalemi : Ibrahma Al-Bulehi, Irshad Manji, Tarek Fatah, Necia Kelek, Raheel, Raza, Ahmed H. Al Rahim, Zuhdi Hasser , Khalid Duan, Nonie Darwish, Magdi Allam, Zacariah Arami, Sabatini James, Slaman Rushdie, Nyanko Sabumi, Ali Sina, IRfan Khawaja, Maryam Namazil, Ibn Warraq, Turan Dursun.

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Here is the FIRST page of a Google search that produced 22, 200, 000 results , and in 63 seconds. So, not just my opinion , not just Pamela Geller’s opinion. So, get writing letters
to the mosques listed in the results.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  veritas

Where?

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

any search engine .

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Iraqi children were Human Shields, killed by Sadaam who valued his regime over the lives of the Iraqi people – just as today the ayatollahs of Fascist Iran sacrifice the lives of their subjects.s

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

Lol

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Yep. I had the same LOL reaction on seeing the Mohammed cartoons.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Nice dodge. I notice you didn’t answer his question.

atl slayer
atl slayer
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

The right of the individual trumps all religious rights.
interesting how you love art but then want to classify what is defined as art, art, like beauty belongs to the value each individual see in it. If you don’t like it, ignore it, but to say that a price of art somehow has the power to offend is silly, you hold all that power.
again I will ask because maybe you want to answer, do you equate drawing a.picture with murdering a person, yes or no?

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  atl slayer

I actually like the hand drawing the Prophet Who sets the Rule against deitification and forbidding making evem the Prophet an idol, but I also know that Faith of people is much more important. A murder is punishable under the law of land, sharia or not. So why make propaganda literature on buses and on T shirt. That is not art appreciation, that is rubbing it in their faces.

atl slayer
atl slayer
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Welcome to freedom my friend, I think alot of things are poop, its rubbed in my face all day. Faith and belief in the unreal is poop to me, you not answering my question is poop to me but guess what ……no violence, no hate, just the freedom to say it of make fun of it get used to it.

Ps. talking about the law of the land and sheria is not a yes or no answer,

do YOU, equate drawing a picture with murdering someone??

(see poop answer above)

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  atl slayer

The answer is yes and no. Under Sharia, it is punishable. But we dont practice sharia here,.I defintely dont want to. So I dont want to kill anyone for any ideological reasons. But abuse of freedom and use of feeedom is different. I have the freedom but dont do a lot of things because I know it is hurtful. And I feel.civilized because I dont burn crosses on Museum lawns or play explicit rap.songs at school games

atl slayer
atl slayer
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Its either, or.
not both.

rightful liberty is unobstructed freedom within the limits drawn around us by the equal (individual) rights of others. I do not add within the limits of the law because law is often a but a tyrants will and ALWAYS when it violates the rights of the individual.

under no circumstances are you to initiate, do you hear me. Are you to start the use of violence against another person

and the most simple…
don’t touch me. and don’t touch my stuff.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  atl slayer

Who made you? Your father or your mother? Cant be both.

atl slayer
atl slayer
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Are you now comparing the creation of life and or the act of it with …murder, the exact opposite, that’s your rebuttal, that because it takes a man and a woman to make a baby that it is both ok and not ok to kill someone for drawing a picture? Depending on where you live?
if the law permits murder for art then yes.
if the law protects artistic freedom then no,.
?

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  atl slayer

No I was saying that it is possible to have yin and yang. The cartoon that is perfectly ok is perfectly blasphemous elsewhere. The Sharia law has declared many as “worthy of being murdered” Like Rushdie and Tasleema, they are shamed and not permitted to travel to a Muslim country. If they do, a radical Muslim might carry out the judgement. Geller should be fine too as long as she doesnt go preaching in ISIL operated regions. Unfortunately, America has a surplus of homicidal maniacs who cant wait for a “famous” kill and right now being a Muslim beheader is hot ticket in US, thanks again to Geller. These psychos would gladly convert to “Islam” to justify their moment of glory. Looks like Pamela found out about the homicide capital of the world a bit too late.

atl slayer
atl slayer
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Finally you are having a conversation with me 🙂
so are implying that psychopaths and pedibears and all around scum would say that they are Muslim for a little bit just to use “religion” as a cover to terrorize innocent people?( and then their family could say,,, o no my baby isn’t an extremist.)

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  atl slayer

No, the thing about psychopaths is they don’t operate by norms. So I can’t speak for all psychopaths. What I’m saying is this country has a lot of psychopaths, a lot of hatred and a media that caters to sensationalist violence. We can do more by respect, kindness and tolerance. America is a secular country, its Freedom is celebrated because ALL, regardless of class, gender, faith, race can freely engage in this chunk of time we call life. Freedom is not drawing silly cartoons that criticize this celebrated way of life.

atl slayer
atl slayer
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

I don’t celebrate mysticism,
freedom for some may be drawing silly pictures,
we can disagree I love it.
I am for freedom.
not the freedom you espouse for you to define the parameters of what freedom is for me or anyone else, so let it go,

” cartoons that criticize this “celebrated” way of life”
hahahhahahahaahahahahhahahahshahhshshshshsshaa

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  atl slayer

You don’t think American way of life is worthy of celebration? I think it is. I also think it’s a mockery of freedom of speech when you wear a T shirt on an LGBT rally mocking that life style, or donning a KKK hood to church on Sunday on Martin Luther King day or drawing Mohammad as a homicidal criminal “just because”. These are examples of instances that criticize American Freedom on Gender equality, Religious and Race equality. What Geller is denying is American freedom for Muslims to practice their faith in America. American Muslims, in general, ARE Americans and fine human beings. They don’t need to be persecuted

atl slayer
atl slayer
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

That’s not what you ware referring to . In what way dose the drawing of a scumbag criticize the American way of life and not celebrate it be the freedom to criticize,
hey “Mathew” keep practicing your double speak taquito it sure is entertaining, but I’m bored of toying with you,
you might not cut my head off but you would get a hard on if a savage did. Enjoy your life , stay out of mine 🙂

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  atl slayer

Unlike you, my avatar is my Facebook page, I have nothing to hide. That you are trying to portray Mohammad as a scumbag is the reason why this is hate speech and not art. Trust me I have no intention of staying in your life, I intend to live a full, calm and loving life with my family. Hope you’ll find your peace, education and access to real news to form an opinion, though THAT might be hard, with you living out in the country and being corn-fed. Chill

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

So portraying “Mohammad as a scumbag” is hate speech. What about portraying his glorious achievements truthfully? For example, marrying 6-year old Aisha? Or beheading the Jews of Khybar? Or lighting a fire on a Jewish man’s chest to find out where his treasure is hidden? Are those negative portrayals of Mohammad? Or just the unvarnished truth?

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

How about Americans responding by holding rallies calling for DEATH to Fascist Iran – responding to rallies in Fascist Iran calling for death to America? Are you OK with that?

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

Bahaha

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

DEATH to fascist iran!
HANG the ayatollahs – all of ’em
HANG their revolutionary gestapo

LONG LIVE PERSIA!

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Their FAITH is well protected in America, you again only protect their HURT FEELINGS, no more.

Look at South Park, satirical series; the feelings of Mormons, Catholics, Jews, LGBT, followers of all sorts of religions, lifestyles are heavily HURT by South Park. The only exception, due to intimidation, is Islam, that they dare not touch!

That’s the way it is, and by protesting only against Pamela’s heroic unique resistance against Islamic intimidation, you basically reward that intimidation, which intimidations is what all the other religions/ lifestyles do NOT do. Only a part of Muslims do that.

And being in a religion, and UMMAH with bullies like that, that ought to carry some accountability.

As successful intimidation is in favor of Islam. And since all Muslims love Islam most of all, when Islam prophits from intimidation, they too prophit from it.

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Could be true, scary.

But, to do nothing is much scarier.

You seem nice and have the aim of sparing the most lives in the long run.

Well, giving in to bullies, like the Charlie Hebdo killers, and fatwa-raising Islamic clerics, that too has dire consequences! When successful bullies don’t stop, they demand more!

No, Pamela’s way gives reasonable democratic people the chance to save the most lives. By discouraging the bullies!

By NOT denigrating Islam, while all other religions get denigration (including from Muslims, in Islamic countries), in response to intimidation, done byMuslims in the name of Islam, we ENCOURAGE bullies, don;t you see?!

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Rushdie wasn’t allowed to speak publicly in his native India (because of muslim threats of violence), is that a muslim country?

atl slayer
atl slayer
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

And of course, the pulling of the knife…..the word but in your answer.

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SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Muslim want Americans to follow sharia. It ain’t gonna happen in the USA. Maybe in Eurabia, but NOT here.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

Yawn

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Yeah, of course, you are powerless to do more and are reduced to ridicule.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

On the contrary, I may be one voice against many, but I have a kind heart and my intention is noble, which is, understand and differentiate between terrorism and faith. Can’t spend much time fighting or matching hate with hate. Ridicule is a 3rd graders tool and I see it as a passing fancy. I will be ready for meaningful discussions but like I said, I’m one against many and can’t respond to all.

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

But the point is that you are not able to stop the ones that do a lot of things that are hurtful. It happens! It is not done TO Muslims only. And it is done BY Muslims only!

Your protest therefore should be more balanced. not just towards Pamela Geller, but to all sides.

But that is impossible, and so you better allow all, and discourage none. Now? You are just measuring with unfair double standards!

And as I said, your worries about hatespeech are groundless. it is oppression and censorship that causes misery, rebellion and violence, not hate-speech. Hatespeech should cause correction and then progress!

I don;t expect you to change your opinion, but our exchange may influence 1 or more third parties. Which is what you too must hope

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

I hope you are right and people are just exercising free speech. I really hope the free speech is not followed up with discrimimation. And I pray that people feel safe and secure enough to solve their problems and difference with mutual respect and without violence or hate. Peace Brother

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Thanks Roshan, peace to you too

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Good. It should be rubbed in some more.

farflung
farflung
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

NO! that is opening the eyes of the blinded populace to the real threat, RAT BASTARD MUSLIM JIHADISTS!

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  farflung

Yup, that’s far flung alright

farflung
farflung
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.it/2014/04/the-hare-psychopathy-checklist.html Before you speak of psychopaths, don’t make a fool of yourself , know what one is. Also, I am under the assumption the best part of you ran down your fathers leg. Now that is farflung.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  farflung

Weak

farflung
farflung
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

YUP, reminds me of a dog slurping his food. Seems you need a tutorial in proper English.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  farflung

Yup

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Not true by a long shot, they can look the other way, on the internet, TV they can zap away, they don’t have to read the newspaper.

The very president of the US, the prime minister of UK, the media, many ordinary western citizens, they praise and support Islam, creating balance between promotion and denigration of Islam, but YOU, you still want to censor the denigration of Islam.

The Muslims in democracies and Islamic nations of course have the right to do the denigration back, about the Jews and Westerners. And they and their friends and de facto allies do that plenty.

Through MEMRI TV we know how much the Jews and Americans are vilified and foulmouthed.

There is balance!

You can’t stop the Islamic side, but you try to stop the secular side? You use Double standards!

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

I am for secularism, which is why I am addressing hatred and not religious practices. As a free, secular and progressive country shouldn’t we step ahead. Because radical countries abuse human rights elsewhere doesn’t mean we abuse free speech to poke at sensitive issues. We must work at stopping spreading hate, use civility and explore how terrorism of any kind should be dealt with. You cant fight it with more hate and violence. Take care of all citizens, provide a safe environment and address concerns in a sophisticated manner. Ignoring or looking away from hate propaganda would only make things worse. It is being addressed and I have no respect for Geller’s methods, but have respect for her cause.

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

It’s great you at least have respect for Pamela’s cause.

To me it looks like you are hung up on this “anti-hate” thing and trying to discourage it. It is never a problem in a democracy and can be a force for good! It is NOT ABUSE, only USE of freedom!

It is both balanced by the “hate-speech” coming from the other side and the plentiful “love-speech” and respect that ALSO emanate from the West towards the Muslims. The West welcomed MILLIONS of them as equal citizens.

It is the violence that we both don’t want. Only in defense we want it.

Thanks for being such a good “sparring partner”.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

So you’re wanting freedom for the right to hate? Well, no thanks. You’ve a warped sense of fairness and no clue of what democracy is.

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Better than you, you still don’t understand the devious nature of people in part, which makes them twist anything into hate that is only criticism or undermining their interests. Your too protective stance of protecting hurt feelings makes a mockery of freedom of speech. The oppressors thank you.

And besides, the “hate-speech” is supposed to alarm people, to sting them into thinking and action, or else it is to make the onlookers think.

Hatespeech is indispensible because otherwise we see sometimes another aspect of human nature; the attitude that goes like

“brushing polite criticism off, by saying; I am busy, I have a headache, I can safely ignore you, you will never hurt me” or “yawn”.

Sometimes only rocking the boat with hate-speech finally get’s the attention and reaction of the people.

The founding fathers knew this after much polite and respectful protests in history that were safely igored by the powerful people and achieved NOTHING.

You are still young, perhaps when YOUR oft repeated repectful and polite criticism only gets you laughter and yawns, you will change your opinion about not speaking “hate speech”.

GreenCheeseOnMyKeyboard
GreenCheeseOnMyKeyboard
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

IMHO, this vein of message seems to be a missing key in getting through to the media and those who might misinterpret the call for correction as hate speech. I’m not keen on the speech being labeled as hate speech since that seems like a tactic to shut down discussion. That said, I think there is universal hate for some things which is a force for good.

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

You love a paedophile murderous profit and a stone and jeehard.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

Man, you are here too Too! You really have to spell better, but nonetheless, I understand your hate

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

You’ll see me wherever there are foolish mooslims. There I go again, repeating myself.
(Think I’ll call you guys foolslims or mooslish to avoid the repetition.)
You continue to attempt to categorise noncompliance and non submission as hate.
Good luck with that but not here.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

You must not stop at traffic lights either?!

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

I love it when you mooslims start being “smart”.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

Maybe you should marry one

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Only mooslims marry their animals.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

And you eat them later

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

What’s your point here?
If it’s about pork/bacon etal, some of us eat the meat after it has been killed and cooked.
You mooslims “eat” your animals alive.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

Haha, Dude you are impossible

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Time to play your Islamophobe card.

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Projecting your Goat Love?

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

Yawn

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SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Do you understand the hate of Islam in aftermath of 9/11, the Boston Marathon bombing, Pan Am 103, Mumbai India massacre?

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

And from the peanut gallery comes. ..

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Can’t address the hate of Islam in the aftermath of 9/11?
Why am I not surprised?

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Wrong. But I’m glad their feelings are hurt anyway. Everybody else’s feelings gets hurt. Why not theirs? What’s good for the sheep is good for the goat. But they know that already.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

An eye for an eye and all world is blind…

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Isn’t that what Sharia prescribes as an apt punishment?

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Tell muslims not to start shit in the first place then no one has to worry about old sayings.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  atl slayer

I’d bet the antisemitic cartoons that are seen across the muslim world don’t get his panties in a bunch:
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Images:Antisemitic_Cartoons

atl slayer
atl slayer
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

It was so annoying to bat around that troll mouse like a bored cat, I kept leading it as long as I could, I hoped other freedom loving people would be entertained.

so much double talk he might say he doesn’t like or does like them, tiquito tiquito

stay safe defcon 4
high five for freedom 🙂

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  atl slayer

Amen on that atl! High five right back at ya!

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  atl slayer

While that moohamheadan troll is spouting his mooslim rubbish here he and his fellow trolls are also spitting on Ms. Geller’s face book page.
They aren’t here to dialogue.

atl slayer
atl slayer
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

O yea, but I’m here to be in the mosh pit of ideas, I like to push and be pushed back, and bullies like that are fun to toy with because the more they say the more of their little game is brought out into the light 🙂

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

And what do you have to say to the Imams throughout the world of Islam who constantly call for the death of all Jews ? Do you have anything to say about that…??? Because Pamela is mirrorring what is happening in the world of Islam…she created it ?? Grow up and open your eyes.

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  veritas

Its eyes are open. It’s angry because Ms. Geller is fighting to open citizens’ eyes.
It knows what it’s doing.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  veritas

What about the 70 plus Muslims who were killed in Norway because the assailant was a Christian? How come Christian and Jewish terrorists get away with it? If you look at the definition of terrorist, every American boot that invaded Iraq was a terrorist?

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Who is killing the Christians in Syria and Iraq ? Is it Christians or Jews doing that ? The point you make fails…if it’s wrong, is it less wrong when it is Muslims…..always with the excuses…ALWAYS…..find a reason to excuse what Muslim terrorists did in Lebanon in the seventies..what the hell did that have to do with Iraq ? NOTHING. The Ottoman empire ? What did that have to do with Iraq or Norway or any other damm thing ?

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  veritas

Missing Saddam yet?! You shouldn’t have killed him and destabilized the entire middle east and trained their Commander in guerrilla war. The blood of the Middle east is shared responsibility of all who supported the Invasion of Iraq for oil, based on nothing but lies. You still harbor Bush and Cheney who should be tried on International court as war criminals. They bankrupted your economy, misled you to a war and made you poor while filing their pockets

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Iraqis hung Sadaam. But you are too ignorant to know that.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

Lol

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Oh man, do you think that the SHIITES and Kurds MISS SADDAM?! The majority of 80 % of the Iraqi population was freed and given power! The Americans came, defeated their Sunnite oppressor and left!

But the Shiites and you sure have a funny way of showing your gratitude!

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

No, I disagree. The Americans INVADED Iraq and DESTABILIZED the Middle East and left after Haliburton and Enron filled their pockets. No gratitude for war criminals

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

In the past 4000 years “empires” invaded and conquered, then stayed! and exploited. How much did the population of conquered nations prophit from the conquest? Maybe in the long run their descendants had a better life.

But America? Yes of course it’s firms prophited, as did the elite of all conqueror nations after conquest, why else did they do it!

But the Americans LEFT, they let the now liberated, the STILL liberated, the ongoing liberated (to emphasize their LIBERATION FROM SADDAM’s minority-regime, the oppression which you seem to oblivious about)

to govern themselves.

by the way I doubt if the Americans prophited on aggregate, but the ungrateful Shiites certainly did.

Their hate is Islamic in origine, and their arguments are just justifications of their hate. But their arguments are hypocritical.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

What was moe-ham-head? A civil rights leader? Or a community organizer?

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

But luckily YOU, Roshan, LOVES all humans!

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

Yeah, its the right thing to do.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

He probably only defines fellow muslims as humans.

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Who are you speaking to ? I am not an American.

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Brevik is in prison. Just like your Blind Snake of the t993 truck bombing of the WTC.
Which Christian or Jewish or Buddhist or Bahai or Hindu terrorists hijacked 4 passenger planes on 9/11 and flew them into buildings?

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

Which goat broke up with you?

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Your mother is a goat? Do tell.

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

See, you get to say the most critical things about democratically chosen governments and perceived terrorists of Christian and Jewish faith, and get away with it in democracies! As you well know!

In totalitarian theocracies opponents in the opposite side to you, do not get so lucky; their life and freedom is instantly threathened. As you must know!

And in those countries Islamic murderers get away with big crimes! And their opponents get jailed and the rest of the population gets no chance to be informed well and is intimidated into silence!

You? You only attack the ones that … allow you to know all about all what they do and who let you attack them!

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

No, I don’t attack ideologies. I frown upon behaviors and believe that as a strong, free, democratic and secular country we should be confident and firmly addressing our issues and causes for concerns. You know, the velvet glove over the steel hand..

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Fine. just try to frame your “constructive criticism” in such a way that it is still clear you PREFER the democratic system and it’s leaders over the totalitarian theocratic system and their leaders/ proponents. Where the 2 are confronting each other. don’t make it look like you support the enemies of true democratic people, like Pamela Geller and most of us.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

LOL, you’re demented. Not a single hair of any muslim head was harmed by Brevik’s attack. Not ONE.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  veritas

Better yet, why isn’t the rabid Jew hate found in all the holy texts of izlam not deemed hate speech?

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

THANK YOU !! Indeed !

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

Thank you , exactly !!

BraveOnMyKeyboard
BraveOnMyKeyboard
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Well, it’s not just pointless art. I hate pirates, assassins and the like. Some acts are universally hated such as slavery, abuse, violently attacking freedom of conscience…

farflung
farflung
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Roshan Mathew, RAT BASTARD MUSLIM JIHADIST, There is no such thing as hate speech in the USA. only FREE SPEECH!

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

“//Hate speech is not free speech.”//

that is the excuse of all oppressors and their dupes.

You get to see it, when EVERYTHING that is the least bit critical, get’s labeled “hate-speech”.

You are just protecting the hegemonists, either as a supporter or a dupe.

Your type in the past killed or jailed opponents, and because you did, every one kept quiet, there was little progress, and at long last the desperate oppressed resorted to violence.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

Garbage

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

“hate speech is not free speech” there you go, of course this is how oppressors and censors make up excuses. Only it is they who determine what is hate speech and what isn’t. Criticizing their own hate-speech then IS hate-speech for example.

This was soooo known to the founding fathers of America. You either have to catch up or you are on the oppressor’s side.

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Speaking about paid, hope you’re well paid for the rubbish you’re spouting here otherwise you’re just another stupid mooslim. (Sorry for repeating myself there.)

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

No I dont get paid like Geller does to do her thing. I do it because I genuinwly love all humans. You included

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Since you apparently know, could you give some insight into Ms. Geller’s “pay”?
The “love” part just highlights your BS but I’ll settle for an answer concerning the “pay”.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

Sure, I wont talk about her husband/business partner’s death and will direct your attention to the Activists under the Echo Chamber section of this article. The entire article is so good, it must be read by every American. You will see what she gets paid alright. http://islamophobenation.com/

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

You’re a mooslim what do you know about “good”?
Maybe you should paste the article, I would NEVER follow a link from you mooslim.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

What happened, did your daughter who actually is court ordered to go to school go out to play so that you can’t read anymore?

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

You foolslims have to bring your paedophilia into everything don’t you?

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

Your jaundiced eyes probably thought of sex when you attended your Mom’s wedding?

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

You were present at your mom’s wedding?
What number was she?

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

Well, my Mom married my Dad in a Church 2 years before I was born. Unlike yours, she didnt come with a number. How many fathers did you have? I had one.

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

How are you really sure it’s your mom inside of the black garbage bag?

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

And you wouldn’t know your Mom if you saw her face

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

Could be Roshans father under wraps.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

The only “church” in town that has prayer rugs and not a cross or bible to be found.

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Never covet your neighbors goat.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

Yawn

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Has your wife graduated elementary school yet?

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

Yup, Islamophobia in action. You are one of Geller’s success stories.

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Thank you.
Only you mooslims strive to remain dunce.

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Mohammeds Hornet Nest is buzzing.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

That’s a new one. Yeah its buzzing because you keep throwing stones at it

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Islamofauxbia is more like it.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

The warning about not following URL’s linked to by muslim-nazis is an excellent point.

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Do you love people who behead your family and put their severed heads on pikes? Darwin Loves YOU.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

I’m sorry for your loss of family. Did many goats die?

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Maybe we can get your family to stone you to death for bringing dishonor to them. It’s just Sharia in action.

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

If you love humans, the best way to help them, make them happier, is trough democracy! not through censorship of perceived hate! Not by protecting “hurt feelings”, as you do.

Protecting democracy, including some perceived hate-speech, is good for protecting bodies!

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

I am not protecting hurt feelings. I know that in the recent past, Americans have been lied to and duped into an illegal war, the blood of which is on our hands. And I know that the less war-profiting, hate mongers there exist the more chance there is for stability. And the more people realize on using education and respect, the better the outcome is. That is what would work in US Democracy.

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Fair enough, just accept more instead of being such a perfectionist. I believe there is progress, and yes, less war, less killing, if we measure per capita. It is just not perfect yet, we need to have patience, while practicing good democracy, education.

Look at yourself; you just insulted the previous American Government, but not only them, also the majority of congress and senate, the countries that were allied to America, and ALL THEIR VOTERS. Those are the humans you profess to love!

by saying their chosen leaders (the best they could find in th democratic sysem) lied and duped.

That is hurting feelings man, you are doing it as much as Pamela and us, and maybe more.

We allow you to do this, so you allow us too.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

Youre kidding right. The previous administration are war criminals. They lied to the American Public and invaded a country based on lies. Dick Cheney and Bush are back in News. 9/11 is being unclassified. That is not hurt feelings. And that remains the truth. Given the amount of gullible, misinformed audience that would invade a country, it is not beneath the SAME population to start with hate speech and end with emotional violence. Yes I love humans, I don’t support their greed. Collin Powell and Jesse Ventura are trending in Youtube today. Truth will be out. Stop worshiping money

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Yes, yes, in your opinion Bush, Cheney etc are guilty, and so you say things that, well, “hurt their feelings”, only deservedly so.

But that should give you pause, because what Pamela Geller says, maybe “hateful” and “hurt feeings of Muslims”, but ALSO with good reason, as there really is an Islamic ideology or interpretation of it, that indeed leads MUSLIMS to do the same sort of bad deeds that you accuse Bush and Cheney and all of.

So again, allow all to speak “hate-speech” you and us, from both sides, or discourage all. You discourage us but you yourself act like us, only to different people.

No, in an affluent democracy like America, the hatespeech is balanced by lovespeech and violence per capita will further diminish with time, as is already happening for a long time now.

And America pr another democracy never fought with a democracy.

So you don’t like greed, and perhaps people ARE worshipping money too much, and so you protest, but how about this:

Pamela Geller loves people too, just does not support those people forcing shariah law on others.

Donald Joy
Donald Joy
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Pam Geller, Rosa Parks, & Malala Yousafzai: Same Struggle, Different Buses:

http://clashdaily.com/2015/06/pam-geller-rosa-parks-malala-yousafzai-same-struggle-different-buses/

Donald Joy
Donald Joy
8 years ago
Reply to  Donald Joy

Perhaps you should read the article.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Donald Joy

Donald sorry! I just read your article and deleted my comment. Good piece. Even though I dont agree with how.you aee Pamela, good observation on the bus thing. Sorry for the earlier comment

BraveOnMyKeyboard
BraveOnMyKeyboard
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

There have been at least 3 attempts on her life in recent months. Yes, that’s a victim of attempted murder. Fortunately she’s heroic in continuing to hold the line rather than let the would-be murders set the tone.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

It is sad that these attempts have happened, now her cause is tarnished with a fear for her life. I still believe that the American Muslim is extremely capable on discussing in a civil manner the pros and cons of Sharia and create opportunities to work with cleansing these differences. Religious violence and differences are very easy to ignite, very difficult to contain and last for generations. America, being a secular Nation is proudly making laws for ALL to live harmoniously. I really hoped Geller didnt have to resort to a failed, French shaming tactic here in America. It was a missed opportunity to build bridges with the progressive American Muslim instead of trying to distance them. That is my regret.

GreenCheeseOnMyKeyboard
GreenCheeseOnMyKeyboard
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Discussing in a civil manner is fine. I believe Ms Geller says things like “you can worship a rock, just don’t stone me with it.” The violence seems to be the bottom-line no-nonsense issue. I hope you’re right about the civility, but I think the attempted murders tarnish *that* hope. I think you see the long-running tradition of violence that makes one be wary of gullibility in assuming it will go away without standing up to it.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

I understand the wariness with the media focus on the negative and being vigilant would help thwart potential threats. I also feel that our biggest allies should be American Muslims in preventing the germination on violent jihad on American soul. One has to be open to the positive, the long-standing traditions of living in peace and harmony. Where I’m from, we have this tradition. My Muslim friends would be horrified if faith were to distance me from them. It’s been repeatedly proven that war, poverty and hunger stokes sectarian violence the fastest. There are only a few pockets in the world that can truly boast religious unity working along with the land of law. I’m proud to be a St. Thomas Christian from Kerala, India to have experienced this.

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

American Muslims like….. CAIR???
Surely you jest.

GreenCheeseOnMyKeyboard
GreenCheeseOnMyKeyboard
8 years ago

I’m thinking Dr Zuhdi Jasser, and those who signed the open letter to alfagdadi would be a start.

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SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago

Dr. Zuhdi Jasser AKBAR! As well as Ayan Hirsi Ali.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

Surely you hate.

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SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

I do hate jihadis, islamofascists, CAIR, Taliban, ISIS, Al Qada, Boko Haram.

Is that Islamoophobic? Perhaps Islamofascistphobic?

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago

Izlam is fascism.

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

HATE’S a good thing. As long as you HATE the right “people”….which most people here do.

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

There are 7 billion people, yes,all have hate, all have love.

It’s not forbidden, their is no thoughtpolice.

Violence is forbidden, but that comes unfair oppression and censorship, not from hate!

A bood bookkeepers notices both the debet and the credit, the love and the hate, and then makes up the balance,

a bad, negative bookkeeper only looks at the credit, in your case, the hate.

All of us are yawning now!

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

Well, do the right thing to do, Mr. Bookkeeper, because we are in debt.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago

Surely he lies.

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Look Roshan, you ARE LIKE MOST OF US, you just don;t realise it. You unnecessarily worry about people who are troubled and hate people they perceive as

“threathening that which they and you already have; long-standing traditions of living in peace and harmony!

You want the same thing!

But many of the Muslims want more! To have hegemony, superior status. And that IS coming from Islamic teaching. OR at least that could be interpreted from them, so obsolete, incomplete, contradictory, vaque, ambiguous as they are.

Your Muslim friends act as they do,either because good neighborship trumps Islam for them, or because they interpret Islam’s texts in their own way.

Don’t bark so much against the wrong tree, man! Our constitution is what you want. You and us just don’t want the intolerant, bullies, hegemonists!

God, don;’t you even know WHY democracy was founded?

But hate, THAT is not a problem in a democracy! Censorship is!

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

I hope that generalization about Muslims changes. And I believe that being a good neighbor is the right thing to do

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SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

“Progressive” Muslims are threatened with death, murder by Conservative Muslims. See death threats against Ayan Hirsi Ali, Salman Rushdie.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

Yeah? How illuminating?

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago

Ayan Hirsi is not muslim, she has renounced islam.

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

The very president of the US is building these bridges! Pamela’s role is different! There is balance!

But you seem to want to discourage, perhaps even censor the opposition!

But in a democracy opposition is normal and good!

We believe that eventually it is oppression, censorship that ignites the desperate to violence, not vehement objecting speech, that “hurts feelings”. Feelings get hurt by all to all, all the time. it is balanced by praise and support.

You complaints are of no use!

If the average Muslim worldwide would be just as tolerant and openminded as the average Westerner, accepting “blasphemy” and “apostasy” and hurt feelings, there would be no problem!

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

Change starts in one’s heart. Tolerance starts locally, then spreads globally. No need to bring more hatred, we have enough of it already

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

The hate you perceive is well balanced with love! The “bad speech is well countered with “good speech” in democracy.

But you ONLY look at the hate-side, tolerating no more of what you perceive as hate. You want to diminish it. That is the totalitarian way.

But you can also balance the hate and love also by increasing love and praise and support. That is the democratic way.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Why don’t muslims get the ball rolling on that whole tolerance thing? Why don’t muslims stop persecuting people of other faiths in all their izlamic hellholes as a gesture of good faith? Or how about allowing the practice of other faiths in Saudi Arabia?

Donald Joy
Donald Joy
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Gracias.

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Donald Joy

Ms. Geller is DRIVING this bus. That’s why you mooslims are mad at her.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Donald Joy

Malala donated a significant amount of her Nobel Prize proceeds to Hamas, the izlamic terrorist org. dedicated to the destruction of Israel.

hurricanepaul
hurricanepaul
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

The meteorologist who puts out a WARNING that a hurricane is on it’s way and will hit in 4 days, is he ‘hurricaneophobe’?

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  hurricanepaul

No. But if the Hurricane is attributed by the meteorologist to Lilliputans who practice Taoism, said person should quit job and go take cultural sensitivity classes?

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

So you HAVE been smoking the camel turds.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

I’m not responsible for your lost stash

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Exactly! So why do Muslims say that 9/11 was “an inside job”? and that “ISIS was established by Israel and USA”? Just as ludicrous as the example.

You Muslims (well a part of you), so skeptical and denying facts/ probabilities you don’t like,

And so incredibly naive believing Mohammed’s very IMPROBABLE story and subsequently anything that protects it and anything that vilifies infidels, esp. Jews?

I say you don;t care about finding the truth, you just love your religion and want it to win no matter what. But denying that too.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

To me, the purpose of a religion is to make a human better. If a Muslim or a Jew or a Christian fails as a human, then the religion has not failed the man, man has failed the religion. No Holy Book is worse or better than the person who holds it

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Good perspective. But 1. Then let the best religion win, or speaking broader; let the best ideology win,

to make humans better, to produce better societies. I think there must be some better ideologies around than Islam.

2. I think the ideology must also try to adhere to the truth, not just to utility. The story of Islam is highly improbable.

3. If making humans better is the purpose of religion, then THAT must be the purpose of omnipotent Allah, back then.

But HE does such a lousy job; sending some prophet as seal, then not ending manking with judgement day OR giving updates in 1400 years. But insisting not one iota of Quran may be changed. Thereby ensuring it is by now massively obsolete.

Pffff, how much longer are smart Muslims going to be so naive and patient waiting for a non-responsive God?

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Hate and islamophobe; aren’t you guys tired of this BS.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

I actually prefer to call you Supremacists, you know, like Nazis.

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

You’re referring to islam, right?

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Islamofascist Supremacists, you know, like National SOCIALIS Nazis.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

Yawn

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Take a power nap.

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Yes, and that IS ALL you can do!

You Muslims once were pretty powerful and in the “old days”you would have fought and crushed opponents who gainsayed you, resisted.

Now? All you can do “Yawn”. No more. You confirmed it.
Quite a progress from our point of view!

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

I won’t yawn at you Demsci, you make excellent points.

Everbody did a lot of nasty things if you apply today’s law then

BraveOnMyKeyboard
BraveOnMyKeyboard
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Nope, Pamela Geller is supporting the fabric of America. She’s not asking a lot if Muslims. She’s calling on them to do what we expect everyone else to do for civilization. She is also calling out the cowards who are caving into the threats and selling out for a future generation to deal with.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

She’s playing on the paranoia strings of a white minority and gnawing at the fabric of American secularism by pandering to her Pro Israeli lobbyist sponsors

BraveOnMyKeyboard
BraveOnMyKeyboard
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

No, it’s not paranoia. The scum *really* have tried to murder Geller. The scum are murdering people in Iraq, Syria, and on and on. They’ve got some really bad ideas. The bad ideas are spread through threats and acts of murder. Let’s join with her and denounce the violence.

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago

Thankfully two jihadi scum met their ends – unfulfilled.
Do the two jihadi pigs still qualify for 72 virgins?

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Even IF that were true, a big IF,no body cares, it is totally legal and for good reason! Competition! Her opponents get the same changes she gets. This is proper democracy.

It is you that only discourages, likes to censor, the ONE SIDE, but not the other (as far as we know and surmise). You flirt with totalitarian theocrats! Or are one.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

I never called for censoring, only promoting mature and adult behavior. Thinly veiled cartoons don’t cut that standard in our Public we are better than that.

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

With all due respect, Roshan, I do not know if you would actually advise governments to censor or not,

but you are giving excuses for the “discouragement” you advocated here by saying: “I only call for promoting mature and adult behavior”

So, try to DO that then! But don’t try to discourage, diminish the free speech of others, by proclaiming it is Unwelcome Hate-speech or that it is “immature and childish”!

Because if you do that you only give censors and oppressors the excuses they need to censure and oppress.

Moreover, you are only discouraging the one side, neglecting to discourage across the board. This creates unbalance. Either allow all with all speech short of inciting violence or discourage ALL (which is impossible).

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Funnily enough blatantly antisemitic depictions of Jews are all the rage across the muslim world with the chief source material being found in izlamic holy books.

GreenCheeseOnMyKeyboard
GreenCheeseOnMyKeyboard
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Let’s call for mature behavior. The death threats must stop.
The cartoons are fine and normal for the point of standing up to a bully. They illuminate immature, uncivilized death threats that have continued throughout the ages. Those threats don’t meet the standard of civility. We are better than that. Stopping the death threats is not negotiable.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

“Paranoia strings” Really? Who has been making death threats to whom? Members of what religious group drove a thousand miles out of their way to try and kill the kuffar at Garland, TX?
Who flew two 757’s into the WTC on 9-11? Paranoid leprechauns? Or maybe it was djinns?

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

America is NOT, and WILL NEVER be Sharia Law compliant. Anyone who does give a crap about Sharia, can pack up and leave the US and return to the desert.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

Dude that’s old. At least do some thing different

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Old? How old? Circa 9/11/01?

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

Yawn. Ask Bush

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Ask Osama bin Laden.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

Try Xanax

Emmett
Emmett
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Hey collaborator RASHAD You might want to take notice that there is no Kumbaya on this site. Just “Cold Rolled Hammer Forged” Reason! So your support for the jihad is duly noted here,Soros can easily escape justice, but most of you” SorosBotts” and ” ObomaBotts” won’t be so lucky, so you all might want to read up on what the russians did to nazis collaborators. Now if the muslims don’t engage in jihad or support jihad, the worst we would do to them is deport them. There is alot of talk about raising the “Unorganized Militia”, With their first job being the protection of people like, Pam Geller and Jon Ritzheimer. We would ask Police officers to join to be officers and NCO’s and active and reserve military to be advisors and members and when we number in the millions this jihad will end!

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Emmett

More like Jack and coke or cocaine

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

More like the imams/sheiks/ayatollahs secret stash of alcohol.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago

Don’t forget those dancing boys in Iran and Afghanistan! They’re a mullah’s delight!

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

YAWN.

IndigoRed
IndigoRed
8 years ago

Gellerphobia… good word coinage, Pam.

Pamelaphile… my own wordsmithing for one who likes, loves, and follows Pamela Geller.

pamelageller
pamelageller
8 years ago
Reply to  IndigoRed

xoxo

Donald Joy
Donald Joy
8 years ago
Reply to  pamelageller

Pamela Geller, Rosa Parks, & Malala Yousafzai: Same Struggle, Different Buses:

http://clashdaily.com/2015/06/pam-geller-rosa-parks-malala-yousafzai-same-struggle-different-buses/

Pam, feel free to run my article on your website as well, either linked or with full text lifted out. Also, see my bio on the page, re your personal security.

Donald Joy
Donald Joy
8 years ago
Reply to  Donald Joy

Just as far as the leftists and dhimmis saying Pam’s demonstration has nothing in common with hers. You do know what I mean.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Donald Joy

Malala Yousafzai donated her Nobel Prize proceeds to Hamas.

hurricanepaul
hurricanepaul
8 years ago
Reply to  pamelageller

Pam, can I make a suggestion: Next time you are being interviewed on CNN, ask one question at a time and force them to answer your questions.
You ask 4 good questions in a row and they are passed over by the CNN host.
By asking one question at a time forces them to answer your questions.
If they try to dodge your question say, “Excuse me. I just asked you a great question and you owe it to your viewers to answer my question”
I want you to ask ALL of the CNN hosts, “Please tell me what the phrase ‘give me liberty or give me death’ means to you?”
And then give them the time to answer before asking another question.
Thanks Pam Geller! You are the best!

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  hurricanepaul

Great point.

Rick
Rick
8 years ago
Reply to  hurricanepaul

Pam has always been the best and will continue to always be the best.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  pamelageller

Lol, OMG…IKR! So cute. When is your graduation from High School?

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  pamelageller

Pamela:
I have suggested this on other posts. Read our articles to increase your wisdom on these debates. Knowledge is power! Many of us have stated ideas and truths in which you may not be aware. If not you then have someone that works for you cherry pick our comments for you to read and memorize the ones that work for you. God bless and we all love and admire greatly what you are doing in the name of freedom!

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  IndigoRed

Hope they’re not copyrighted because I intend to use them.
That’s another couple words that will irritate the constantly irritated.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

Nope, free garbage. Come one come all

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

See I haven’t used them yet and it’s set you off.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  IndigoRed

I was wordsmithing and cant decide between Pamela Heller or Pamela Himmler. I think I lean more toward Himmler, you know the guy who ran the SS squad. The resemblance in Supremacist ideology is striking. Xoxo

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

History shows that you foolslims knew him very well.
You’re not very bright are you.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

You dullness wouldn’t qualify to determine my brightness

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Google islamic Jew hatred.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

History shows you liked to sell goods to Nazis during war too. Ford hearts Nazis?

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SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Ford ended selling to Nazis after Pearl Harbor. Muslims continue to admire SHlTler.

Google Images “arab Nazi salute”

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

Google racist

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Google “progressive” racist.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

Google bigot

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Google Islamofascism.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

Hmm, coz Ford couldn’t sell anything in b America if he continued business as usual

BraveOnMyKeyboard
BraveOnMyKeyboard
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

It’s the Nazi’s that had the ties with Islam, so that’s a poor analogy. The violent muslims with death threats make a more fitting tie to the SS. Geller is calling for a stop to the environment of control by assassins.

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

How about Islamofascismphobia?

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

How about Dinnatgoskoolorhavajobomania?

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Are you dizzy?

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

Yes, the stupidity is breath taking

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Another of your bathroom mirror moments.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago

Yawn

canuckistan666
canuckistan666
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

So, Pamela, who is Jewish and who fights Islamic supremacists is a Nazi? The same Nazis who hated and killed Jews and worked with Islamic supremacists? Thanks for pointing how how the mentally ill Leftists like yourself use moral inversion. And though you arrogantly think you are a wordsmith, you have to actually understand what the words mean before you can be one!

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  canuckistan666

No, I didn’t say she follows the ideology of Nazism, just that Geller users the same tools like Nazis did. It all started by spreading hate propaganda. Then it was Jews, now its Muslims. Once there are enough of haters to achieve a critical mass, it could be history repeating all over. Capish?

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Interesting viewpoint, to explore. We know that the Nazi’s believed in superiority and inferiority of races. They only were out to wipe out people with Jewish RACE. They even had marriage-laws, forbidding “Arians” to marry with Jews.

So a Jew could not change ideology to “escape the hate-propaganda”.

Pamela doesn’t care one jot about a person’s race. She defends democracy against people who believe in and follow a totalitarian theocratic ideology.

Muslims are most welcome to Pamela and us if only they exchange their totalitarian ideology for an ideology more compatible with democracy and tolerance.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

Have you ever seen how Jews are depicted in muslim states?

It’s practically straight out of Der Stürmer. Nice try at playing the victim card though.

Mikael
Mikael
8 years ago

Good God. I’m sure I read a comment saying nigga. Sounds like a lot of you have hate deep within you. If you guys are so serious about your cause then I’d love to see some of you fly to Iraq or Syria where you can kill a member of Isis and take all your anger out. But then again, I’m pretty sure you guys are mostly just key board thugs, who get no attention otherwise and would never do in reality what they type. Just talk talk talk to feel accepted and wanted. I’m all for free speech and all, but a lot of the commenters here, in reality are just SAD. Go outside, take a walk or even go to the gym. Sitting here moaning on and on and obsessing over another religion.I see the terrorists have truly taken over your minds. Scared that someone is trying to take over the country or whatever it is that you believe. If some of you even take this energy and focus it on worshipping GOD, be it Muslim, Christian or Jew, you will live a more productive life than just sitting here hating everyone else because of your short comings in life. Pray for All the children dying daily because of someone else’s agenda. Be it Israel Syria Iraq Afghanistan Palestine. I believe in some of your eyes one child is more Important then another. No human life is more valuable then another. We all bleed the same color.

atl slayer
atl slayer
8 years ago
Reply to  Mikael

I’m sorry you interpret our LOVE of freedom as some sort of hate for anyone, check yo self befor your wreck yo self. 🙂

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Mikael

Are you insane ? You certainly aren’t Jewish…because if you were , through the merit of wanting to survive..you would be aware of what the world of Islam has planned for the Jewish people….grow UP !! Sorry if the world isn’t what you want and other people aren’t what you think that they should be….seriously, grow up !

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Mikael

“If some of you even take this energy and focus it on worshipping GOD, be it Muslim, Christian or Jew….”
Don’t attempt that superior shiite on here mooslim.
You attempt to equate your god with the God of the Jews and Christians by placing mooslim ahead in the line.
Your god is not the God of the Jews and Christians.
Your god is satan.

Mikael
Mikael
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

Woah, I didn’t realize there is more than one GOD. Thanks for clearing that one up for me. By the way, placing of words are enough to cause you to speculate? Hmmm.. Any other conspiracy I should be aware of? Anyway have a great day people. Keep fighting the fight lol.

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Mikael

Guess it’s too difficult for you to understand but I only used capitals when speaking of the God of the Jews and Christians.
Your god is allah/satan.

Aaaaaa
Aaaaaa
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

Hahahaha just a question does hiding behind a computer typing away make up the most of your day? Get a life loser.

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Aaaaaa

I think by exposing you foolslims gives me a better chance of keeping the one I now have.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Mikael

Yeah, Hitler is still alive, Obama is Mao Tse Tung’s adopted son, Unicorns are real, dinosaurs died because of Muslims, the current Pope is a Socialist Muslim, there are shape shifting reptilians that are hiding in disguise, the sky is going to fall pretty soon because of the rapture, there is no global warming and everybody hates America especially the Americans.

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

The mahdi is going to pop out of a well in fascist iran to bring victory to sand nazis over Infidels. /sarc

NewIceAge1970
NewIceAge1970
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

…and Roshan Mathew doesn’t have too much time on his hands.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  NewIceAge1970

Hahaha, thats funny! I am running a fever and resting in bed actually. I can’t do this for long. Good one Sid! (Sid from IceAge)

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

What about the three izlamic ahadith that call for the extermination of Jews? Are they also funny?

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

And muslims aren’t engaged, to some degree, in ethnic cleansing of the unbeliever in every last one of their izlamic hellholes?

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Mikael

Go tell it to:
a. ISIS
b. Boko Haram
c. the government of Saudi Arabia
d. Al Qaida

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago

eemama slave of a stone foruck says;
“You can capture elephants, lions and tigers without killing them,” Faaruuq said.
“The intent was not to capture him and keep him alive.”
Yes eemama but you can tame an elephant or a lion or a tiger but you cant tame a mooslim.

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

and forest animals are rarely armed with a knife.

Honest Citizen
Honest Citizen
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

just like a dog with full blown rabies becomes a danger to all around the dog, a devout muslim is a danger to all around the muslim. The way to deal with a rabid dog therefore is the same way you proceed to deal with a rabid muslim.

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  Honest Citizen

You mean like put him to sleep…permanently?

Honest Citizen
Honest Citizen
8 years ago
Reply to  albeit

If you were on the jury of Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev would you have given him candy?

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  Honest Citizen

Nah..just kool-aid…

Pinchas Baram
Pinchas Baram
8 years ago
Reply to  Honest Citizen

Winston Churchill, the great Winston Churchill whom we all admire, said the same thing back around 1900, when he was a British soldier both in the Sudan region and the Afghan region: a fanatic murderous Moslem and a dog with rabies are one and the same, and have to be treated accordingly.

Roshan Mathew
Roshan Mathew
8 years ago
Reply to  Honest Citizen

However, being rabid is a sickness. Being Muslim is adhering to a faith, not a sickness. When dealing with humans, there is a court of law, where all are judged fairly

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Roshan Mathew

IT all depends on what type of “court of law”. If it’s a Sharia court justice is nothing more than a poor joke.

hurricanepaul
hurricanepaul
8 years ago

It’s 1935 all over.

koseph Finn
koseph Finn
8 years ago
Reply to  hurricanepaul

it’s very Easy with pamelageller … kEEP READING

HeGG
HeGG
8 years ago

Right. “ComeFlyWIthMe33” is surely a trustworthy source.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
8 years ago

The family claims to be “shocked, shocked” and well they should be. They could not tell you within a five mile radius where Rahiim last took a crap.

Dana
Dana
8 years ago

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Rick
Rick
8 years ago

Another one of Barry’s sons that went wrong. Who wouldn’t want him dead. Every where it seems, the families always say that their sons are always good boys trying to get ahead; or should I say a head.

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s;vbkr0boc,klos;
8 years ago

MSNBC ran a photo of Pam and must have used photoshop to ruin her skin with pock marks, weird lines and holes in her face to make her face repellent. If you have ever seen her she is a quite nice looking woman and never, even in news photos looks like that.

It is getting surreal what the MSM will do.

Bronish
Bronish
8 years ago

Gellerphobia!!! Haaaaaaa! Ya….that’s the enemedia for you!! Hey Pamela…..next time you’re interviewed by a leftie, take a sudden step forward, raise your pretty arms and shout, BOO! Should be a good show….ha! Don’t forget the popcorn!
Pamela….you’re wonderful, smart, sassy, and really funny too! I love you and pray for you daily! You Go Girl!!

Bronish
Bronish
8 years ago

One more thing….(columbo)……Pamela, please run for President….please!! Our dying Republic needs you.

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