Dylan Baddour: The Shamer Claims He Was Shamed

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After Breitbart published my takedown of the Houston Chronicle’s sophomoric CAIR press release, the thumb-sucking Houston Chronicle “journalist” Dylan Baddour began receiving numerous tweets questioning his journalist integrity and skill. He emailed me and wrote a subsequent piece for the Chronicle, which is behind a paywall.

What is interesting about Baddour’s new piece in the Chronicle is his whining, self-pitying tone: Baddour strikes the pose of the poor victim, besieged by what he no doubt thinks of as ignorant, redneck, racist yahoos. He plays the victim just like his Muslim friends and allies, and for the same reason: to deflect attention away from the real victims — the victims of Sharia oppression, violence, misogyny, Jew-hatred, kuffar-hatred, etc. He is carrying water for the most oppressive ideology on the face of the earth, and whining about how he got some mean emails. Tell it to James Foley or Steven Sotloff.

He claims that I was trying to “shame” him. That is actually what he was doing to me in his first piece and in this one: “shaming” as in smearing and demonizing me and trying to make sure that Houston Chronicle readers would not support me or my work for human rights. Then the shamer plays victim. Poor Dylan.

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After the Breibart piece ran, and his poor twitterfeed blew up, he wrote me:

Pamela,
Feel free to call and talk if there’s anything in the story you feel in inaccurate. 713-362-2152

And I emailed back:

Dylan

Read my piece here and you will see plenty in yours that was inaccurate. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/20/houston-chronicles-dylan-baddour-jesuiscoulibaly/

Here is a short list:
1. I am not an “anti-Islam activist.” I am a human rights activist fighting for freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, equal rights for all, and individual rights. I’m against jihad terror, honor killing, FGM, sex slavery, Jew-hatred, etc. Aren’t you?
2. My last name is Geller, not Gellar.
3. I have never said that Muslims want to repeal the U.S. Constitution.
4. I am not banned from the United Kingdom for my affiliation with alleged hate groups (I don’t have any such affiliation).
5. It’s not true that I have not signed any artists yet — we have over 60 submissions from artists.
6. FBI statistics say that hate crimes against other groups, particularly Jews, are far more common than those against Muslims.
7. “Geller also said the Islamic State group was evidence of the repressive nature of Islam.” I didn’t say that.

Why would a journalist carry water for the most radical and extreme ideology on the face of the earth — one that threatens your very life and livelihood? Do you even know what truth and accuracy are?

Yours in liberty,

Pamela Geler

Dylan wrote me back:

Hi Pamela,

Yes I read your piece. I thought it was clever of you to characterize me as a “useful idiot.” Do you mean useful to the terrorists? I didn’t quite understand it. Also I loved the picture of me that you included. In response to your seven points:

1. I’m sorry, ma’am, but I am a journalist and I stand firmly by my characterization of you as an anti-Islam activist. Here’s why: all of those things are bad for sure, but you concentrate exclusively on the violations committed by Muslim people. On your blog and in your television appearances, you speak only 100 percent about things done by Muslim people, always in a negative light. You also picketed outside the Muslim conference in Garland last month protesting to people who never did any of those things you listed. If you want to focus on terror killings, look to the U.S.-Meixco border, where drug cartels have beheaded many, many more people than ISIS, and killed many more Americans over the last ten years. My city, Houston, is the continent’s biggest city for sex-trafficking, but you don’t address anything that goes on here because it doesn’t have anything to do with Muslims and you are an anti-Muslim activist.

2. I’m sorry, that was my mistake. It has been corrected.

3. In our interview, you told me that jihadists want to impose shariah law on the United States. Also, I based that on the website for your group, “Stop Islamization of America,” which says in the heading that “Fundamentalist Islam wants Shariah to replace the U.S. Constitution and fundamentally transform America.”

4. According to the British newspaper The Independent, British government officials wouldn’t let you into their country because they believed your groups are “anti-Muslim hate groups.” So British officials banned you for your affiliation with hate groups.

5. When I asked you for the names of any artists that had signed up, you told me no one had been confirmed yet.

6. This is irrelevant, ma’am. My story didn’t mention anything about anti-Jew crimes. But I might note that most of those are not committed by Muslims.

7. According to my notes, I asked you for any examples of repressiveness of Islam, and you listed for me many crimes committed by the Islamic State.

And for reference, I asked you what jihad and shariah were to check your understanding, because I have read extensively on the two. Based on your answers I would encourage you to have more dialogue with Muslim Americans. You should also realize that asking Muslim Americans, or even most Muslims, to speak for the crimes of ISIS or other militant groups is like asking all Christians to speak for the crimes of the Mexican Drug Cartels of the Lord’s Resistance Army in Uganda.

And just to say, I am not so fearful of the middle Eastern militants as you are. For my record, I have never seen one and have never been threatened by one. There are people fighting on the other side of the planet, and while it pains my heart to see so much killing and loss, I’m not going to become hateful to all my Arab neighbors because of what I see on TV. Note there was nothing in my article justifying terrorism, only explaining the fallacies of your hate which arouses American people to resent their neighbors who have done nothing wrong.

But I appreciate your engagement in the online media—that’s the kind of diverse plurality that makes our democracy work. Tweeting a picture of poop at me was a little bit childish, though.

Your friend,

Dylan

I responded to every Dylan point:

Dylan: Yes I read your piece. I thought it was clever of you to characterize me as a “useful idiot.” Do you mean useful to the terrorists? I didn’t quite understand it. Also I loved the picture of me that you included. In response to your seven points:

Geller: Useful to those who are working to undermine our freedoms. You tweeted:

Dylan Baddour @DylanBaddour  ·  Feb 20

Me and @CAIRHouston get the honor of a mention by @PamelaGeller in Breitbart news! http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/20/houston-chronicles-dylan-baddour-jesuiscoulibaly/ …

Do you know what CAIR is? CAIR is an unindicted co-conspirator in a Hamas terror funding case “” so named by the Justice Department. CAIR operatives have repeatedly refusedtodenounce Hamas and Hizballah as terrorist groups. Several former CAIR officials have been convicted of various crimes related to jihad terror. CAIR’s cofounder and longtime Board chairman (Omar Ahmad), as well as its chief spokesman (Ibrahim Hooper), have made Islamic supremacist statements. Its California chapter distributed a poster telling Muslims not to talk to the FBI. CAIR has opposed every anti-terror measure that has ever been proposed or implemented.
Do you know the work we do? Have you even read my bio?

1.       I’m sorry, ma’am, but I am a journalist and I stand firmly by my characterization of you as an anti-Islam activist.

GELLER: Anti-sharia, yes. Anti jihad, yes. But anti-Islam.

Nonsense. I don’t care if you worship a stone, just don’t stone me with it. I have no problem with Muslims and Islam except and until they begin to use the tenets of Islam to justify taking away the human rights of others, including Muslim women. What about the Muslim girls and women whom we help get to connected with help networks to save them from honor killing, death for apostasy, etc.?

Dylan: Here’s why: all of those things are bad for sure, but you concentrate exclusively on the violations committed by Muslim people. On your blog and in your television appearances, you speak only 100 percent about things done by Muslim people, always in a negative light.

Geller: My area of expertise is jihad and sharia. Why would I talk about peaceful Muslims who don’t want to strap on a bomb or kill people? I expect that. I don’t have to pat on the back every Muslim who doesn’t want to kill me, but there is a problem in Islam, and your ignorance is empowering it.

There have been over 25,000 deadly Islamic attacks since 911, each one with the imprimatur of a Muslim cleric. How as a reporter does that not concern you??

Dylan: You also picketed outside the Muslim conference in Garland last month protesting to people who never did any of those things you listed.

Geller: Nonsense. I know the players of that conference well. John Esposito is a Saudi-funded academic who has called Muslim Brotherhood Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, who advocates jihad suicide bombings and has prayed that Allah would destroy kill all the Jews, a champion of a “reformist interpretation of Islam and its relationship to democracy, pluralism and human rights.” Esposito has called the Hamas-linked terror organization the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) a “phenomenal organization.” Esposito has spoken at Hamas-linked CAIR fundraisers in order, he explained, to “show solidarity not only with the Holy Land Fund [that is, the Holy Land Foundation], but also with CAIR.” The Holy Land Foundation was shut down and prosecuted for funneling money to the jihad terror group Hamas, which once boasted on its website about its murders of civilians in pizza parlors and on buses; the Justice Department named CAIR an unindicted co-conspirator in the case. Esposito also refuses to condemn Hamas, as the Investigative Project notes: “In a 2000 interview in The United Association for Studies and Research’s (UASR) Middle East Affairs Journal, Esposito refused to condemn Hamas, which at the time was already designated a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) by the U.S. State Department.” He has co-edited a book, Islam and Secularism in the Middle East, with Azzam Tamimi. Palestinian political scientist Muhammad Muslih calls Tamimi “a Hamas member.” Tamimi has said: “I admire the Taliban; they are courageous,” and “I support Hamas.” When University of South Florida computer science professor Sami al-Arian was accused of involvement with the leadership of Palestinian Islamic Jihad, which has claimed responsibility for the murders of several civilians, he became a cause célèbre, with his defenders ascribing his prosecution to “Islamophobia.” Esposito rushed to his defense, avowing: “Sami Al-Arian’s a very good friend of mine.”
Also scheduled to attend the forum was Imam Siraj Wahhaj, who was designated a “potential unindicted co-conspirator” in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing for taking the Blind Sheik to speak at mosques in New York and New Jersey in the early 1990s. Wahhaj has warned that the United States will fall unless it “accepts the Islamic agenda.” He has also asserted that “if only Muslims were clever politically, they could take over the United States and replace its constitutional government with a caliphate.”

They sought to restrict free speech under the guise of “islamophobia” — and not a week after the Charlie Hebdo massacre. Obscene.

Dylan: If you want to focus on terror killings, look to the U.S.-Meixco border, where drug cartels have beheaded many, many more people than ISIS, and killed many more Americans over the last ten years. My city, Houston, is the continent’s biggest city for sex-trafficking, but you don’t address anything that goes on here because it doesn’t have anything to do with Muslims and you are an anti-Muslim activist.

Geller: What does that have to do with what we are talking about??? Do you criticize your ear nose and throat specialist for not dealing with heart disease? Does the existence of another problem mean that one should not discuss a different problem?

2.       I’m sorry, that was my mistake. It has been corrected.

3.       In our interview, you told me that jihadists want to impose shariah law on the United States. Also, I based that on the website for your group, “Stop Islamization of America,” which says in the heading that “Fundamentalist Islam wants Shariah to replace the U.S. Constitution and fundamentally transform America.”

Geller: Are you saying fundamentalist Islam doesn’t want that? What did Osama want? What does Boko Haram want? Al Qaeda? ISIS? Et al. My quarrel here was with your reductionist construction — “Muslims want to repeal the U.S. Constitution.” This is misleading in a way that takes real concerns about groups that in their own words (according to a captured internal Muslim Brotherhood document) are working toward “eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within” and makes those concerns seem silly — which was obviously your intention. There are no Muslims working on an effort to “repeal” the Constitution, which calls to mind legal and legislative action, Constitutional conventions, etc. Rather, there are Muslims working to subvert and ultimately destroy Constitutional freedoms, as the Muslim Brotherhood document explicitly avows.

4.       According to the British newspaper The Independent, British government officials wouldn’t let you into their country because they believed your groups are “anti-Muslim hate groups.” So British officials banned you for your affiliation with hate groups.

Geller: So you just lift your work from other yellow journalists? That’s what journalism school teaches you? The reason the UK stated for banning us was that our presence “would not be conducive to the public good.” They feared violent Muslims — that’s a far different thing. The British documents are posted online at Scribd — read them.

5.       When I asked you for the names of any artists that had signed up, you told me no one had been confirmed yet.

Geller: We now have over 70 submissions from artists.

6.       This is irrelevant, ma’am. My story didn’t mention anything about anti-Jew crimes. But I might note that most of those are not committed by Muslims.

Geller: Wrong. Do you investigate your theories, or do you think that if you believe something, it must be so?

7.       According to my notes, I asked you for any examples of repressiveness of Islam, and you listed for me many crimes committed by the Islamic State.

Geller: In fact, I mentioned Boko Haram, Hamas, the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, and others. All of these groups, including the Islamic State, cite the texts and teachings of Islam to justify violence and repression.

Dylan: And for reference, I asked you what jihad and shariah were to check your understanding, because I have read extensively on the two. Based on your answers I would encourage you to have more dialogue with Muslim Americans. You should also realize that asking Muslim Americans, or even most Muslims, to speak for the crimes of ISIS or other militant groups is like asking all Christians to speak for the crimes of the Mexican Drug Cartels of the Lord’s Resistance Army in Uganda.

Geller: What Muslim Americans say may be interesting, but thus far they haven’t done anything to stop the many American Muslims going to join the Islamic State. They say they oppose its understanding of Islam, but they have no programs to teach against it. The Mexican drug cartels are not killing in the name of Christ. The Lord’s Resistance Army reflects no theology of any Christian group (in sharp contrast to the jihadis reflecting and repeating traditional Islamic law), and are funded and given weapons by the Sudanese government, a pro-jihad entity — they’re actually a tool of jihadists.

Dylan: And just to say, I am not so fearful of the middle Eastern militants as you are. For my record, I have never seen one and have never been threatened by one. There are people fighting on the other side of the planet, and while it pains my heart to see so much killing and loss, I’m not going to become hateful to all my Arab neighbors because of what I see on TV. Note there was nothing in my article justifying terrorism, only explaining the fallacies of your hate which arouses American people to resent their neighbors who have done nothing wrong.

Geller: So if you don’t see it, it’s not happening. What was Fort Hood, the Christmas tree lighting attempted bombing, the Boston Marathon bombing, the Times Square car bomb, etc.? What about all the attacks and plots I detailed in this article? http://b1ff5939f6.nxcli.net/2015/01/pamela-geller-breitbart-jihad-in-america-2014.html/

But I appreciate your engagement in the online media—that’s the kind of diverse plurality that makes our democracy work. Tweeting a picture of poop at me was a little bit childish, though.

Geller: Your work is poop — not actually with a happy grin, but with a grimace.

You are writing your opinion — not reporting the news.

There is a difference between the news pages and oped pages, but that’s a distinction you hope to obliterate — well then, let your readers know how biased you are. Warn them.

Yours in liberty,
Pamela Geller

After all that — after that entire exchange, he writes this one long whine, without mentioning that exchange at all, much less quoting anything I said. And he assumes that Atlas readers are like him – lemmings — incapable of thought, following a dogma. He thinks that way because he knows no other way.

Atlas readers choose Atlas because they think. They choose to think. This is a concept completely alien to him and his mindless ilk.

If devotion to truth is the hallmark of morality, then there is no greater, nobler, more heroic form of devotion than the act of a man who assumes the responsibility of thinking. (Ayn Rand)

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My first online shaming

My moment of Twitter infamy

By Dylan Baddour, Houston Chronicle

February 26, 2015

As a young reporter in the Digital Age, I weathered a rite of passage last week: I became one of the ten-second celebrities who populate the daily net buzz. I sparked my first Internet controversy, and suffered my first online shaming.

On Friday, hundreds of angry people tweeted about my article on a contest to draw Muhammad, the prophet of Islam. But they weren’t angry that the prophet would be pictured.

They attacked by command of Pamela Geller, the contest organizer and a source in my story. Displeased with my work, she ran an 850-word article on Breitbart, a website somewhere to the right of Fox News — solely about me — with my name in the headline. But the photo with the article showed a French terrorist who killed four people last month.

“Dylan Baddour takes a firm stand in support of the slaughter in the cause of Sharia restrictions on free speech,” she wrote, noting that my alleged allegiance to jihad was the result of “the cultural sewer [I] was raised in.”

She also tweeted a picture of poop at me….

“Good to see the enemy expose themselves,” wrote one. Another said I should be caged.

“Best you crawl home to mama who should have taught you not to be so ignorant,” wrote another.

It isn’t that surprising. Muhammad is a controversial figure. The tweeters came from a segment of right-wing Americans who are absolutely terrified of Muslims, and who thought my piece about the Texas event supported Islamic jihad. I was called an “Islamo-Nazi,” a “terrorist-loving douche” and a “[supporter of] jihad against the Jews.”

One tweet said, “so you’re an incompetent Sharia compliant left liar 4 Islam Child Rape n’ Beheading Murder Inc. then.”

There was the horde, thirsty for blood. The largest number of Twitter notifications I’d ever had awaiting me before was perhaps 13. Now there were hundreds. As I scrolled through message after message, my eyes widened with dismal awe.

“Dang,” I thought. “I never had so many people hate me before.”

The aggressors seemed to think that some Muslim people fight simply because their religion encourages violence, and they reject any political or historical explanation for the Rise of Terror. Because they believe Muslims are dangerous by nature, they become extremely alarmed and aggressive at any discussion of the world’s second biggest religion. And they came after me.

But the swarm spits its words and quickly moves on. By Sunday only a few stragglers remained to jeer, and by Monday the tweets had stopped. I was forgotten again, except for my lingering listing on JihadWatch.org.

I’ve only been in media for two years. I hadn”t realized how frequently the wrath of words is unleashed on reporters. When news broke of my Internet stardom, people in the newsroom chuckled. Older reporters told hate-mail tales. Some were even jealous that I had my own hashtag.

I’d had my moment of dark renown and not known enough to enjoy it while it was happening. Now I’m hoping for more to come.

 

Bookmark Gray Matters. Unless you’re an Islamo-Nazi.

One last inaccuracy, Dylan: I never use the term “Islamo-Nazi.”

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John Henry
John Henry
9 years ago

That was too long. Can you write a shorter version?

BonniePrinceCharlieD
BonniePrinceCharlie
9 years ago
Reply to  John Henry

Some things are worth reading, even if they seem long and take time – and this was one of them; because we all have a lot to learn from the way Pamela responded to the original article.

For a start, she DID respond whereas far too many people simply read articles, shake their heads, tut-tut and say how terrible things are, maybe write a comment intended to be read by others who agree – and move on to the sports page (figurative speaking).

Secondly she took each of the inaccuracies and allegations in the original article and pointed out where these were unproven or unfounded – in essence, where he had lied or bent the truth to suit his own narrative – or where he had demonstrated his ignorance of the facts (or prejudice). You can see the effect of this in his response to her response where he is furiously back-peddling, offering irrelevancies, selective quotes and part-responses in an attempt to justify his original comments.

Thirdly, she hit back at this attempt at self-justification by again pointing out inaccuracies and by questioning his journalistic standards and integrity. (I loved the reference to him justifying his claim that Pamela and Robert were excluded from the UK by taking a quote – and inaccurate quote, I might add – from The Daily Telegraph.)

There’s a lesson there for us all – respond but do it with precision and accuracy; counter specific arguments and allegations with facts which can be substantiated; and seek the widest possible audience for your rebuttal.

Will it make any difference? Who knows? Will it change the mindset of those committed to the defamation of Israel? Unlikely. Will it stop others – the vast majority for whom this is a non-topic – from being lured into and blindly accepting anti-Israel propaganda? Will it awaken them to the dangers which threaten western society? Possibly, and that should be our objective; because if we don’t do it, who will?.

And finally. John Henry, I apologise for the length of my comment. Hope you made it through to the end. (If not, you won’t have seen this apology.)

notislam
notislam
9 years ago
Reply to  John Henry

Just make yourself go back and read it (in increments perhaps)
It was written exactly as it should be and covers all important things for us to relearn how to talk about Islam.

Clare
Clare
9 years ago

Thank you Pamela Geller. Just right.

tpellow
tpellow
9 years ago

Yes, apparently, many MSM ‘journalists’ still think Islamic jihad and sharia threat to us is just a game.

0349 JAT
0349 JAT
9 years ago
Reply to  tpellow

When you bend your laws to accommodate other peoples laws, soon those people WILL bend you to their laws.

Beagle
Beagle
9 years ago

1. CAIR is a Muslim Brotherhood front group.

2. The Muslim Brotherhood openly states the Quran is their constitution.

3. Political Islamists like CAIR would replace the Constitution with sharia, as has been documented in print and their statements.

QED

But until then they will use our legal concepts and idiots like Baddour against us in their “Grand Jihad”.

Eyal
Eyal
9 years ago

Excellent answers you have him!!! It was worth reading the whole thing. Ppl like him count on the fact that most readers don’t check the facts and are consistently confused. Not us thought!

Lee Poteet
Lee Poteet
9 years ago

When I was first at university we had a saying that if you were too dumb to make it in Business School you studied journalism. This one has proved it. But he is no different from the crew at my local Tulsa World where Muslims who commit crimes such as the beheading of the Moore grandmother are treated as if they were only folks “who called themselves Muslim” and couldn’t really be. A huge part of the problem is that our supposed educational system which really specializes in indoctrination of the leftist ideology no longer requires any real engagement with the masterpieces of Western Civilization beginning with the Old Testament and the New or with the great sweep of world history. You can actually learn more about the latter in a week on YouTube than in four years at Yale. Thanks for showing him the intellectually emasculated idiot he is.

SJS
SJS
9 years ago

How tedious dealing with morons like him. Thanks Pam.

0349 JAT
0349 JAT
9 years ago

He wouldn’t say anything against islam even if he was standing in line waiting to get beheaded.

BonniePrinceCharlieD
BonniePrinceCharlie
9 years ago
Reply to  0349 JAT

He would be simply following the ideology or President Banana.

Paul
Paul
9 years ago

Once again Pam you have proved you are the best – this pathetic excuse for a “man” stood nor stands any chance with you – keep it up Pam!

North Dakota Oil
North Dakota Oil
9 years ago

Sophomoric is exactly right Pamela. Paper never refuses ink, and the internet never refuses the keystroke, case-in-point.

Kikmor Boutte
Kikmor Boutte
9 years ago

Good on you Pamela. That was too easy. Fight On!

ColonelNeville
ColonelNeville
9 years ago

Hey, Dylan of whine and roasted fame, quoted one of my many witty, hilarious and entirely true tweets. QUOTE: “One Tweet said, “So you’re an incompetent Sharia compliant left liar 4 Islam Child Rape n’ Beheading Murder Inc. then.” END QUOTE. Interestingly, Dylan the junior media mediocrity left out the vaguely annoying to lefty twits of my “Awesome dude!” line at the end. Hey, awesome, dude!

Lia
Lia
9 years ago

islam could whine for the Olympics.

Taarn
Taarn
9 years ago

Pamela is so colossally awesome – that is a bad turn of phrase but I can’t think of a word to describe just how great she is. I can only dream of being as brave, steadfast, intelligent, and quick witted.

Your Friend Clem
Your Friend Clem
9 years ago

Dylan is a useful idiot. He seems to wear his vapidity like a badge of honour.

On You Tube there is a clip of a panel discussion, hosted by Bill Maher, and the discussants are Christopher Hitchens, Salman Rushdie, and Mos Def. Now I actually like. and own, some of Mr Definitely’s lp’s and I am sure he is nice guy and all, but he really doesn’t have anything to contribute of any value in the discussion, just his attitude. Which is sweet at first but quickly dissolves into nonsense and blather. So really, why is he there? To satisfy some kind of protocol that we should be fair and treat all opinions as having equal value .. which is intellectual death.

Recommended reading , by Julie Burchill
http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9374832/for-some-left-wing-men-the-misogyny-of-the-islamic-state-is-part-of-the-appeal/

Larenzo1
Larenzo1
9 years ago

THIS DOPE REALLY BELIEVES HE IS A REPORTER!

steiner
steiner
9 years ago

Maybe we should begin to investigate those beheadings at the border by “Mexican” and “Colombian” gangs….I have a feeling that there are new players financed by Iran as well as Middle Eastern (muslim) interests….the beheadings are a telltale sign.

steiner
steiner
9 years ago

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/03/world/americas/iran-latin-america/

Yes, there definitely is an involvement by Iranian and middle eastern interests.
Nismen was investigating it and I fear this was the main reason he was killed.
Perhaps we should send Mr. Baddour do do some honest work on the gangs, since he noted his concerns.

steiner
steiner
9 years ago

“American writer hacked to death in Bangladesh spoke out against extremists,” CNN, February 28, 2015:

In his writings, author Avijit Roy said he yearned for reason and humanism guided by science.

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As he walked back from the book fair, assailants plunged machetes and knives into Roy and his wife, killing him and leaving her bloodied and missing a finger.

Afterward, an Islamist group “Ansar Bangla-7″ reportedly tweeted, “Target Down here in Bangladesh.”
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No one came to their aid as they were hacked down, a witness said. “I shouted for help from the people but nobody came to save him.”…

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How can we find out if people like Aslan , Baddour, Esposito…and all those who claim there is a peaceful islam;

that they themselves are part of that peaceful movement.

Did they ever support this man. What kind of associations should we expect from those muslims who claim that their religion has been hijacked by the extremists? shouldnt they at least show some positive association to people like Roy, who was murdered for wanting a more peaceful islam? and if their association with people like Roy was a negative one, what does it say about their real stance….?

Your Friend Clem
Your Friend Clem
9 years ago

I have a question for the Moderator here: Your very last comment slipped by when I read the article. Why do you never (this is a categorical statement) use the term “IslamoNazi”? Is it that the NAzi’s are identifiable , historically, in a clearly defined geographic location and having an influence over a specific period of time, whilst “Fascism” is a more general term ? Would appreciate a clarification on this , hate to spread error.

pogee
pogee
9 years ago

Bless you, Pamela! You are one of the few true voices of truth and light in the dark!

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Thanks for sharing!